 I'm going to open the meeting at 6.30 for all the order that they should be agenda. I don't see any from the select board memo. Does anyone else have anything? No, I was really too bad review events. Do we have. We don't. Oh, okay. We're working on it. No, it's public comment. Probably I could either do an hour or seven 30 when you get to the town of Rockwell. That's what I came to the public comment about. Okay. Well, we have a, we have that on the data. Yeah. You can comment that. Or do you want to comment now? No, you can comment. I can comment now. Sure. All right. So, you don't take too long. Four minutes. Four minutes. Okay. I'm sure this is here. You can say where you want it. We'll be up here. Anywhere. All right. So I know you guys have been doing a lot of hard work. I wouldn't say that. I'll take all the credit for the hard work. It is what I'm saying. It is what I'm saying. So public comment. I'm concerned about the cost. Yeah, of course. Yes. And I want to make sure that we're not letting the architects run while here. There was an original proposal. That was a side for something fancier. And I would, I was curious about what the original idea was that you brought to them. I think I got that right. And. And the numbers that could have been associated with any of that. And. Last summer when I learned that this was going to take place, I realized a long time ago, what those guys were suffering and over there was ridiculous and they needed something better. But I thought, why don't we just use something that somebody else is built like first year to just build a town garage. And why don't we just do that? Well, I was advised that our circumstances unique. And maybe we should. You know, let my designers show up and tell us what we need. So I got to thinking as I do, because I'm old and doing shit for a long time. And I think the idea of building a box. To put all the trucks in that you're going to store them in and work on them as well. May not be the best solution. Being a shot guy. The last thing you want is to be laying under a vehicle and have some Nimrod open the door and the whole air blast in them. It's horrible. You don't want that. So, and it's whole energy element has come up. And I thought, well, these. Trucks that are being stored vehicles, including the front end loader should be in a separate building. And there should be a building designed for the office and creature comforts and the repair facility should be in that structure and the other structure should be kept at 40 degrees to keep the vehicles thought out, but not corroding as much as they would if they were at 65 or so degrees and that way. There could be a lower energy impact. Okay. Keeping to my four minutes of heating with heat pumps. Seems overly idealistic to me. I don't know everything, but I've been watching the show for a long time. Really like that. Let's keep the office with the pumps. And I know carbon neutral is important. I don't. This. I think we should be heating the building with pellets. But I don't know everything, but just being public comment. This is what it's going through my head. So I'm sharing. And I could go on for an hour. Yeah. We've got on the update. Some time there. If you want some answers to some of your observations, I'm not sure. You don't have anything getting into that. I want to respond to one thing though, because it hasn't been any. You're thinking that we moved from a lower possibility to something. Yes, I thought that's what took place. Okay. We're still designing the building. We haven't come up with any other design. Well, I'm, I'm, we put it out for dead for a, for a sketch design and then we have someone that's making us a design. Is there anybody to get more information out to the public? Or we don't have much more. Okay. We can understand. I mean, there's going to be a point where we have more to present to the public. Yeah. Before, before any decisions on me. What we're doing right now is to get a design that can then go to the public. That's, that's, that's exactly what I'm saying. Any kicking to the curve of a low cost designer. Okay. So in other words, there's, you're not going to be, you're not going to be saying, well, this is what it is, vote on it or not. Yeah. It's going to be. There's going to be. It's going to be. There's going to be some, some, some sort of. Information. The information that you present when you're trying to sell it to. Is it this on. And that's. We're moving towards that. We're moving through that process. I'll make you decide. All right. We'll take what you said. We have an architect working. On this one. for a long time? Yeah. I didn't do a lot of installs, but I've been doing repairs for a long time. And what I've learned is putting solar on the roof of the building seems very normal and so bad plan. Okay. Because you put in one complex system on top of another complex system and you can't get to the backside to fix it. And there's no reason to do it. There's no cost advantage. Put the PVs on a rack along the road. It's not like somebody's residential property where you're having to protect the aesthetics. This is a commercial space. You don't need to make something that's going to really look dazzling on the town website. You want something that's going to work. Okay. And not need an expensive maintenance in the future. Right. Okay. Okay. So not to show you down, but thank you for coming. We got to move on. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So much for your minutes. And I'm sure not wanting to be like complaining. Well, that's okay if you're right. We're here. No, that's fine. We're here. No, that's okay. But we're listening. But nothing's fine. All right. I'm going to watch the girl back again. Thanks, Joe. Thank you. So the next item I have a comment. Yeah. Just observing some of the some of the last meetings, I think it would behoove us to when we're going to have guests or we're going to have people speaking on an issue, kind of front-load it. Sometimes we're moving things around and that's not coming up till 8.30 or 8.15. We're having somebody that's coming in to address a certain issue. We don't know who's going to address us. Okay. Occasionally we wait for people. Okay. And I do try to go there when I have people coming. I don't have to tell them before, but that usually dictates that. You're aware of my. Yeah. Thank you. I'm done. Any help? Absolutely not. Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Discussion on green barrels. John Booster then. We've got some people, townspeople coming in. John Boucher. Do you want to seat right here? Yeah, right now. I also have some information town residents here. Just kick it off with what you have to say. Oh, I was asked to be here. I thought it was questions for me. They're out there. What does it entail to, for at least hopefully it could be doing to incorporate green barrels. So there's some challenges there. And one of the biggest ones have to do with. Yeah. So. Yeah, I just read an article for them. Yeah. And you know there's a lot of time. Yes. So I'm sorry, just for the sake of folks out there, the video, who would you say that you are John Boucher of the Senate here at Mission? So, uh, so the big challenge in getting back to the winter time, I had a conversation with our Senator Sexton and he doesn't want to do it. He's got the equipment to do it. So I don't want to do it. And then the other challenge is, it's just more administratively getting rid of our rules on our books about, yeah, about, um, balls. Yeah. Those two really, those two items are your challenge. I guess the word there, get rid of the rule about balls. Barrel balls. Barrel balls. Which you can do 70 times, something from on a diet. Right. Right. Yeah. So it's not on. Is it an ordinance change? It's going to be a rule change. Yeah. Yeah. You have to change the rule. I think it's feedback on the state. No. So that's the town specific. Yeah. Some history there, you know, small barrel balls came in that 60s. Yeah. And, you know, before you evolved into, you know, from the point where we were thinking that these people are down there, you know, see open, ready to rise up. And it's just, you know, we've evolved into something different. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So I think the day has come where perhaps we should look at it. Well, absolutely. Is there any reason why it'd be more challenging at least one pillar than one pillar? Or is there any more? So last, I mean, it seems like there'd be, I would argue it's probably less challenging. Great. And one of the reasons that is, um, there'll be something which is kind of our, you know, the act of cemetery makes it flat and easy access. And so I would argue it's probably less challenging. Another specific to Doty is there's some issues with ledge. And this portion of that cemetery we can't necessarily use with a barrel ball, which should be on a form where we otherwise could with a barrel ball. Yeah. Well, with the natural green barrier, don't bury, you know, go see. Right. You need that. Yeah. So basically, um, happy healing was a month later. And he's was against it to start, but he's on board now because, um, he is caught in the month later and advocated on the other. But at the entrance of green mouse cemetery month, there's a white marble building in cyber six. They're being stored by local funeral doctors. When after I worked at the cemetery 35 years ago, the vault building was full of dozens of caskets during winter months. That's no longer the case. So a lot of it is, you know, if you nation, because people get humiliated now, so they don't need to go to stores, but the green barrier is, uh, it's a viable alternative to nation and vaults because people feel he's just less tired. The process is changing the rule about the vaults. So I have a portion of the board in the past and there's some member changes and some people were certainly against it for, right? I think it's, uh, machine can get together. I believe we can have another discussion on this. So you can do it internally in the committee. So our role as a committee is to kind of discuss issue with the cemetery, then bring it selects forward and with our reckoning. And it's up to you both to consider that. What, uh, just briefly, what, what, what, what are the objections? What are the objections? Well, I think, um, before there was some concerns about physically doing it, um, we had members that were both assessing and on on forward sale. No, the secretary. You mentioned that. So yeah, I don't remember it ever coming to us, but because it doesn't sort of, yeah, I mean, I was trying to start my memory. I've been on the site for about 15 years. I don't think it's going to be here by any, but that being said, we need to know what the process is moving forward. Right. That's basically, that's basically it. And, uh, you have to get together, make a recommendation out. And so I will, I will have, you know, when we need to get an April, I'll definitely have that on the stand up. Yeah. Follow up to Carl's question. Right. Procedurally, we don't have to do anything with the state. We can, we can approve this all internally within the East Montpelier. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to do them. I'm even going to talk to Pat. Ely, just, just to check again, but I don't think there's any, any change of use or thing. He, um, he did a training for Corks this fall. And went through a lot of that stuff. And it was, it was also half much, it's, he described the process so that we now understand it in a much clearer, easier way. Um, because in some instances clerks have to do verital transit permits. If someone passes away in their home and wants to transport themselves. Um, well, there's a miss about it there. You can make a lot of money. So in any case, yeah, um, I, as a member of the cemetery committee, I don't see why we wouldn't change the rule to allow them. It's just the way the modern cemeteries are going. Are there any objections? No, I just wanted to make sure that there's a minute before we moved on for the public in case there are any questions. I know that there's some interested public members here on the zoom. Yeah, they're actually interested in case anyone had a question. Are there any questions from the members that we get to comment? If they're here, are they here for the, you're here for this issue? Yeah, yeah. So lastly, I'll add is, is these serials, these parents, they tend to be very, uh, intimate, smaller. And some of these, uh, meaningful thing to have a, Well, not a lot of that. No. I'm just trying to find out if there's an objection. And in my mind, we need to move on. Since you sat on a couple of the committee meetings, what were the seven, what were the cemetery, those members on the cemetery committee that had objections? What would be some of your objective? One was, you know, leaching into the ground water. I think the physical work of doing it. Okay. They're not really legit. So the reality is there are some very ancient, much ancient civil war era. There is an era, right? Before we're long for false. Ashes ashes. So on the ground water, Gina has kindly provided us with the statute around cemeteries and the number of years of the dead. And there are some detailed, uh, requirements for the burial boundaries of a newer expanded cemetery with regard to, wells, uh, water supply, etc. But I assume that with everything else, there are some cemeteries that are grandfathered in. So I'm wondering, what do we know about our cemeteries and ground water supply? I don't know much. In this, we're not sure even using cemeteries won't they have. Right. And a pine box will rot theoretically. Theoretically. Right. And it's not just on thought. Whatever. Other, we've been doing this for a long time. I was trying to bury it. Wait, you've been with the current regulations in place? This is not our sanctuary, you know. Got it. Got it. Okay, okay. But almost every community around us is now doing the natural burial. So, well, while you're here, we're talking about green burial, which I understand is putting a body into the ground without a vault. Is it with a shroud? Yes, with a lot of vaults. And the idea is just to keep your minimal environmental impact. But that's an intact body going into the ground impact. There's also legalized in Vermont recently what the statutes called natural organic production or composting of human remains. And I'm just curious if the cemetery committee here has been approached by anybody to spread any natural organic production remains. So there's no facility that that's about that. Yeah. Okay. And it may be something that they just spread on their own property. Of course. Let's talk about it. Yeah. Okay. So that's what you refer to. You end up with about a yard. Right. What's here? Right. Since composted somewhere else away from the cemetery. And then you back up those. Yeah. And then when someone else and then this is it. Right. That's right. Right. And up. That's different. Yeah. It is. Okay. Thank you. Well, we have no objections. Yeah. Yeah. So what I'll do next is at our meeting in March 1st, April. I'll make sure this is on March 1st. Yeah. Make a vote. I'll get a vote. And then we approach, you know, the size of the man. In theory, because I'm still learning. We can override the cemetery community. Sure. Yeah. The select board. Yeah. In theory. Yes. Whether you would want to or not, if they objected. Yeah, I guess we could. We could overwrite it. Well, no. If they objected, we can still, the select board has the overall overriding authority. If they said we don't like it. Yeah. So the cemetery committee comes to select board and said, we don't agree with your findings in theory. But I guess that's, that's with anything. Well, March. We're, we're on board. Okay. And I think you have changed person now. Yeah. I think everyone else has. So I, I think that it's not going to be an issue. I don't think anyway. Yeah. Is there any more doomsday serials? No, I'm just, I'm just. I mean, I like that. But you know, apparently no, that's okay. All right. Well, it's up to you. Injection. You mentioned a rule of change. Is there anything else procedurally we need to do? You guys having me, you make a recommendation that comes to us as a rule of change. And that's it. We have, we have a number of rules. And we've actually been working on making some. Updating. Updating with our rule change. So I think what we would do is present the entire set of. Yes. Rules and regulations that we need all of the changes on. So, but it is a fairly simple procedure. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you for coming in. You're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any questions? Yeah. Okay. All right. So you can email me. I know we have enough. You're okay. All right. Thank you, John. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. Okay. Let's see what our next. Considerational quote to digitize the wanted land for days. Perfect. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I do. And you're the lead off person on this. I hope so. Well, I look like I see your name. Right. So for a number of years, we've been looking for a way to digitize our survey maps that are part of our permanent records for land records. We have a number of survey maps floating around all over the office, but there are certain ones that are recorded and that are considered permanent records. The It started quite some time ago with a grant that I was able to get. We were able to purchase a wide format for your scanner. Unfortunately, that didn't work out for us amongst moving it and becoming not a level and not a functional. It really hadn't been used to be doing. Right. It hadn't been used for that either. Anyway, it was more being used for zoning. It wasn't set up in a way that was going to be able to work for us and now it's broken. So I'm now looking at furthering this project and making it happen using basically the preservation money that's in my preservation account to get this done. I did go out and get two quotes. There are not many companies that provide the service. It's kind of a niche thing. Basically, the third note is how to use our current supplier for our whenever I think it's software and service, they have been exceptional and very responsive with their customer service for us, especially in the last year. They have a proprietary scanning software that they can use to help clean up some of the older maps that might have pre cities or a market. So they have pre cities or marks in them before they were put in the plastic Mylar sleeves for protection. I was able to actually talk with the Brownboro City Clerk. They had had Avenue performing the service at, well, it wasn't at their office. They actually had to have their records leave the building as I will need to and get them all stand index tagged and sent back. They actually still use Avenue every six months. If they haven't gotten three or more maps recorded in six months, they send what they have every six months to Texas how to scan sent back. So they continue using them. I actually would probably prefer to use CW in Berry or whoever is available on them all until your once they get set up to go into the class for the easy ones. That would be something that I would be able to do on an ongoing basis, keeping this forward. But having seven hundred and seventy eight maps, it's just not practical to have somebody standing there taking them out of the sleeves, putting them through a standard. It's a huge job. So the good news with Avenue is their trusted vendor, they are my high quote, however, they're going to give you end to end service. And what I mean by end to end is not only are they going to scan these phones, they're going to upload it into the system. They're going to index every single map, which means I've got a book that's literally an index. And they're going to tag all of those documents so that we can find them. That's the most important part because there's no point in digitizing it. We can't find stuff. Co-file is another great company. We use them for our more hard copy preservation needs. They are new to this niche, seem to have the same type of system going and equipment available. They didn't have references available because they have just started dealing with us. They're willing to provide fund drive. Just give me a fund drive along the file side. I would feel a little more comfortable with that if I knew that there was an SFTP online sort of way as a backup. But they would not be able to get this job in production. They say maybe we've moved down by the end of the calendar here. Avenue is telling me they can have it all done by the end of the summer. And really, they're both trusted vendors. I like the fact that Avenue is the limit on workable right now. They know our system. They own our system. And the fact that they've got the extra software to just kind of make sure that our scans are clean, because when you're taking a 24 by 36 map and condensing it down to about eight and a half by 11, you want to be able to be sure that people can actually read the darn thing. So that was pretty important to me. So my request tonight of you folks is to if you're feeling like this is a worthwhile project, and I hope you do, that you will authorize Gina to sign off on the agreement with Avenue so that we can get involved a lot. I have a couple of questions. I got a question too. Okay. Where do you come from in the restoration fund? The money comes from a four dollars a page. Okay, that's good. That's not all of it. No, not all of it. I This is where costs were charged for the digitization of the land record projects that have been done. What I think and the funds have actually setting it a negative Some of your local funds, some of the re-plotification of our fund that we've done have been what has replenished this fund. Oh, okay. That's what it was. So technically we're using our funds. Yeah. To to do this. In some of us from the yeah, this is like a negative eight thousand dollars when I started with the town and it was something that I knew with our footnotes out there about a point of the reasons I could fill is that we re-plot to buy some of the Digitizing of the records to write so that we could replenish this fund. Yeah. All right. Okay, yes. Okay. That was my first question. Um, Is I is that's okay. I'm happy to you or I'll take the spot. Okay. Yeah. Is there any ongoing maintenance fees or fees going forward on a yearly basis? We actually We're actually paying now for the map office that is On the system because we had anticipated having the scanner. We were going to have the maps available So we've been paying for in our 800 Eight hundred and sixty dollars a month so that's not going to change So it'll still be eight hundred and eight hundred and sixty or whatever So it's going to be ten one over ten ten thousand five hundred or something a year Yeah, it is. Okay, but that's for the cost of the use of the software and okay The formatting what happens if this company goes away? Is this PDF? Is this something that we'll own or is it only work on their software? Um, It is a 2.0 with a specific compression And The documentation that they provide is is compatible with other Systems that are currently in the market right now. So it's not proprietary that if we lose them If we lose them, we could go to a cop. We could go to profile. We could go to Anybody else who's you know, in fact, that's true for all of our right now You got a question. Yeah For the records for sundar, they're quote you noted that they had no ability to provide copies Well a project as I'm going in the event researchers need something and for avenue You said that they would be taking our documents off site to work on them So if someone comes in and wants to work on one of those documents, how would that work? What happens is If a researcher comes in and says I need to see the brazier map Then I would go to the index and we couldn't believe which brazier map they were looking for. I would call avenue They'll give me a special number direct to the scan department. Okay, and I would say I need this map And I say, okay, and they're going to go just take it Scan it send it to me so I can get it to that researcher. Okay The turnaround time is usually two to three hours, but it's it's reasonable. It's not at all scary I'm not excited about having to send maps out The transportation that they use for these RFID, you know, straight big Black plastic crates that are Some along through the system. They've done this before they have done this Yeah, I'm good. Thank you. Is this a motion or is this Yeah I'll make the motion to Appropriate the funds for Avenue The $14,550 For this project So I want to make a motion. I'll second. Oh, is there further discussions? All favor, please say I Yeah, I do have Thank you Thank you Um I think we need some I think we need some sampling for the next one. I'm not I got some sampling license So I'm only going to prove this in the sample here. We don't have to do anything Not really up to us. No, but if we've got a judges We should voice them now. I have no objections really I don't know all favor Does anyone else have any questions for Rosie for objections I move to authorize the town clerk to approve the applications from clean field hardware for a Are the multiple applications? Yes, there's um, yeah There's a liquor or a second plastic or a tobacco. Yeah, I move to Uh, approve the second plastic or license application for clean field hardware Well, let's get on let's get on the record here a second. Okay. Oh, there we go. Thanks Hey All the favor, please say hi Hey, hey here robert's rules So, so I'm in motion for the second plastic or license application I I don't like the way that tobacco kills our residents and I did not make the motion to Uh, approve the tobacco license application And the businesses like clean field hardware rely on that income and it's important to have local businesses like that So somebody else cares to make that motion that second I would hold for it Yeah, I agree with you and I also believe in freedom of choice I'll make a motion to approve the clean field hardware tobacco license application We have a second all second. We have a second any further discussion? All of the favor, please say hi. All right. Oh, yes. Thank you both Thank you rosy. Thank you rosy As always rosy. Thank you Okay, so I think we should move the next slide considerate of building resilient infrastructure in community 2022 grant application A lot of words for the grant for the local hazard mitigation Yeah, that's the year that they got the funds from the federal government So that is the title of the grant. Well, this is the has been So, yeah, this is from the hazard mitigation plan. So the this is step one for me to upper the grant Then I start working with the state so we can get an RFP out to hire a consultant to work on this You know Come on. Let's go with motion. Let's get your let's get your names down I'll I'll make a motion to authorize uh town administrator to send out an RFP Thank you for trying to grant it. Just sign the grant application again. That's right Really for the RFP you guys know what's coming. I mean once I just want to be able to keep moving this forward So I don't really we've never really done a motion for those in the past So I just am letting you know that, you know, if you have any concern about me now I want you to forward with us, but we have no I have no concern. I'll be worried that I think you probably miss when you can speak for all of us Yes, you can speak for me on this. Oh, I never know I don't think so Oh, okay, I'll second those. Okay. Uh, any further discussions? All right Yeah All right so the next iteration of The AI task map This is the annual agreement for online tax maps no change in the cost. So this is just the renewal for this upcoming year. Yep So I think that Any proposal for no change in the cost? Yeah, we have a little last year. So it's flat this year though. So it's just nice I'll make the motion to authorize the town administrator to sign the agreement on behalf of the select board the agreement of the renewal between CAI technologies and the town Very good for what for what time In cities between April 4th, 2024 and March 35th, 2025 Okay, a year of our large That was the town that he spawned earlier Oh, very good Just now you're What state what state are we in? Washington County Okay, she's good. Yeah. No, that's the ball. Oh, there you go. No northern atmosphere. Yeah We have a second second. We have a second Can you put it in 10? I'll take her to resale All right Oh, okay Discussion on town open positions emergency management coordinator CVR PC town representative Addition Other positions, but of most concern is the emergency management coordinator We will need to be updating our local emergency management plan very soon and We do not have someone in that position What do what do we do if nobody steps by? I can keep posting it on our report form. Well, it's obviously Also in the face, but no one responds. So This is the one who does not need to be a town resident obviously because we tell but it's not a town resident. I would assume He was in the areas with the most services Has anyone from the emergency that's trying to relevant he was in Dallas Yeah, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah And he's no longer in that role either So And I'm not sure if we can move outside of Well, and no is anyone from the emergency preparedness committee interested in this position No, no, but the committee that we just want Yeah, the one that's on the agenda for an inspiration of their name change Yeah All right, yeah It's pretty good. This is the person that it's very tough. I provided you information from the state website The state is a lot of information on the emergency management director Yeah, there's not a whole lot of information on the emergency management coordinator Basically the coordinator is the one that kind of sets everything up for you ahead of time for the ones that are You know, to terminate your risk Determining the needs of the community hence the completion of the local emergency management plan The emergency management director the position that actually pulls for this on the back of my shirt Um, in general, I don't think we have a whole lot of organization in this area and approval so It's something that I think does need attention the emergency preparedness committee is obviously doing very good work and they did meet When the pictures here because he was a 2023 local emergency management director every year Nick from callous I read their minutes and you know, Nick was certainly instrumental in getting callous much more formalized in their emergency management for two months So I'm really just coming to the board to say I'm not sure what to do here to recruit people into positions But that's a good way to see that is a challenge because we have to have a game on the left Yeah That is on my radar too. I mean, there's really not much updating it to be honest with you. Um, it's Yeah I think the fire department is well versus on our land They came to me after what fun and informed me that I was in charge of emergency management wants and I said I am not the envy for the town. So Um, no, I don't believe they have been involved with this process Because they I mean when I think of people Who would be good candidates for this? They're all People who've done it in the past connected with the fire department Here's what the emergency management directors So we would kind of be pleased to help identify who this person would be The envy and second the envy so I got the question who do you want planning the plan that you already need to execute on in the event of an emergency Is there any compensation besides a handshake Nothing not Have we in you've advertised me I have an advertisement And from in conversations I've even had the people to say they'll really recommend you just blindly go out to your community That's usually your envies are involved in Yeah, because again it's uh Collaborative relationship. Oh, we gotta go hand up. Yeah Oh, hi That's key Oh, hello patty Hi, carl. Hi everyone. So, um, I just wanted to say Oh, sorry, it's patty geovara Um, I'm a member of the emergency preparedness We just lost yourself here. It's a problem on our end. Uh, if you keep talking then we'll know you can count or something We'll know when your sound comes back All right, so has my sound come back Can you hear me? Can you hear what i'm saying now? I guess maybe you can hear what i'm saying So i'll put something in the chat Okay, so you can hear me now, can't you? I mean, I can hear you just fine Okay, we had to do there for a moment, but apparently not again I'll put something into the chat. Um, very good. We can hear you now So just maybe you'll be able to keep hearing me. I don't know but um, anyway, I think that um, you know, maybe um, the discussion that we have with uh, toby and seph tomorrow With the emergency preparedness committee we can, you know, kind of shed some light on this I think one of the things that's important and i'm uh, um is to be Clear on you know, I mean the emergency management coordinator It's it's important, but it really is kind of up to the emergency management director in terms of what the Asks are of the coordinator, right? I mean, there's very clear what the job position is for the Um, uh, director but not so much for the coordinator. So um, anyway, I think it's going to be important for whoever Takes this to understand, you know, sort of what what the expectations are specifically from the emergency management director But again, I you know, it maybe is something we can talk about tomorrow I don't want to speak for the whole committee But I don't think there's anyone on the committee that was raising their hand For this but again, I think the conversation With seph and toby tomorrow will will learn a lot as a committee and learn more in terms of You know the expectations From seph in terms of what the coordinator role is Hey Okay, thank you sure i'm good The what other than the meeting tomorrow if No one wants to step Is there a list or other committees or people that we think would be responsible That might want to step up the plate without putting something out on I know I don't know. I think we're just going to have to set up better system for emergency Now the way we have to set up now because we have to have less With a bunch of phone numbers Right Yeah, there's never been a fun. I there's now there's always a lot of me executed Hey, when I try to reach out to resources, I got a bunch of numbers to call Because I called before then at night months so critical Yeah now But i'm not quite sure how we're going to head on school. We'll figure it out tomorrow night We'll have some good discussion and try to figure out everything you know Oh, we don't have I mean, we're gonna have to totally make it certainly I believe so. Yeah, well, that'd be great because he's he's pretty well Oh, yeah Yes, I think that you know, we'll get out to see a little bit more and we'll figure out what we do Yeah Okay, so the other positions you were talking about We're Yeah, I've highlighted two that are kind of and we don't have any representation on regional planning anymore And we haven't since Spencer Moved out of town But we had At the end of 22 Right, but we had agency in this position with the uh back of uh Just some claras claras was the last keep the alternates the alternate. She doesn't have capacity to be Yeah, she was the last one when I was No, some Julie was Julie was on the executive committee. Yeah, but she's done that. Yeah, she she has no interest And then we had you know, we had Just wanted Julie. Oh, yeah, this is what I remember. Oh, yeah It was Three brothers remember in town Oh Right for years I've heard this common thing from town the town the town that there are just positions taken That's just really those dynamic Yeah, it's It should we never really did without a representative. So now now those groups like we've always had some In no way from the planning commission wants to do it because that kind of fits in that way We shot some back or two times, but Really planning commissions on uh fumes is a Or what kind of fumes really there's there's a public reservation. So it's not a robust body at the moment That's true. I mean it's common theme throughout common theme much two towns. Yeah So just bring it to the sideboard if you have any ideas or if you know anyone and you're out, you know, these are I usually just see cows all day Probably not Probably not when you said this person doesn't need to live with him the EMD maybe you can call me. I'm sorry Uh, don't need to know If you have brought it to our attention and we'll put it on I'm thinking that's yeah, here's your call I'm thinking that's Well, the marketing committee is doing a lot of good work and I've read the minutes they're having very very instructive conversation So, you know when I see Rachel there, um, it's You know, I there I think they're gonna help give us any direction But you know, we still have to get Kind of those formalized plans because ultimately it's on the emergency management directive to Initiate whatever plan we're going to be initiating I think we've all seen that I think emergencies are going to become Yeah, okay, so definitely That's a question tomorrow, right DVRPC that probably top one that needs to be really part of the three commission discussion Because they have the personnel but Yeah, so you can have personnel that's being written. We'll find that through a lot of talent They're like empty In the pipeline it's not full Okay Do we have a new representative to solve the waste management system? Yeah, we can John He's He's John But now we have John That would just add to it He's staying on in that position Yeah, but I don't remember how much longer he has in town and said that we need to stay in town. He's not going to do it Why don't we let him He's already out of town But I think they have their meetings around that So I think he'll Okay, he didn't say Okay, so he didn't say We're good We're back to strength Yeah Yeah, I don't know Yeah, okay Yeah That's great. That's good representation Yeah Yeah, lots to see because I think we're getting more communication from him It's just a really simple one Yeah Okay Any other thoughts about positions? Yeah Just a quick question on the coordinator We're having that much of a struggle finding someone Is that critical to stipend an option to attract people or is that Option to what? A stipend So It's nothing I It's not for the planning commission, obviously What's that? It's not enough of an inducement for the planning commission Yeah, I see Yeah Yeah, it's worth a conversation I mean I guess if you offer 500,000 months to somebody You're thinking like Jackson Just about Yeah Yep We're all doing this for the money You are? Well, okay Okay So Deputy 3-1 That's not good Not good Pretty much lots of positions I would like to This position Okay Yeah, that I don't know Yeah Okay So I'll try to I see Yeah Yeah These are Okay So Okay So we ready to go to the next The problem I don't hear any big suggestions coming from the PNIC algorithm Okay, so the next item here is consideration and a change for emergency planning committee to emergency preparedness. That is enough. Any controversy. What's the rationale. Yeah, yeah. What's that. They're in attendance. So, Carl asked the rationale. I'm asking the rationale. And our vice here has a question for the emergency planning committee. Well, why do you want to change the name. And I heard that. Yeah. Hello, Rachel and Patty. Can you hear us? Okay. So now Rachel is speaking, but we can't hear her. We want to change the game. Okay. It's just quiet. Yeah. Can you hear me now? Yes. Okay. Thank you. We fairly early on thought that emergency preparedness just described what we were doing. More clearly than emergency prepare emergency planning. We're looking at being prepared for emergencies and making sure that town residents are safe and informed and we're not planning. It just, it just seems like a better description of what we thought we were doing. Patty jump in or Jennifer, if you can be more articulate about it. So you're not, you're not planning to see clouds coming overhead because. Well, I, yeah, I think the thing is. So this is Patty speaking again. Can you, can you hear me this time? Yes. So, so, so here's the piece about it is that. So, so as, as, as Rachel said, we're kind of like working on, you know, how to provide information to residents, how to connect people, how to, you know, be ready where to get information, etc. But since the, at least up till this point, I mean, and not saying it couldn't change, but since the, this committee that we're the committee is not responsible for the LEMP, the emergency management coordinator, the emergency management director, having been part of the committee, at least not yet. That perhaps that could change, but we just didn't want there to be confusion that it's the, that this committee was the, you know, preparing the LEMP or had the role of emergency management coordinator or director. So that, that was a piece of it. The way to set away. Yeah, but also. So. And again, that's something I, you know, I think we can discuss, right? Like, there's, there's committee members. You know, we, but there's. There are committee members. We have a de facto chair of the committee at the moment. So, yeah, again, we just didn't feel like our role was planning from, you know, as, as would be described in the. Okay, okay. Well, you know, emergency management director would be a little better than that. There's no more. One more. Well, that was going to be my question. Is there any statutory reference to emergency planning committees that would be confused if the name would change? No. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds, sounds good. I mean, I, I think it is a clarification, but there's nothing. I'll make a motion to approve the change of the name of the emergency planning committee to the emergency preparedness committee. Second. Okay. We have a second. Yep. Yep. Any further comments or discussion or discussion. No. We pass it. Okay. The next item on our agenda is updated to keep up to your fire department meeting schedules. So Cal's apparently requested that. Previously, the schedule was ability to do the second Thursday, April and August. And the first Thursday in December. And they requested to be consistent with second Thursday and April on. Which is actually what we're on here. So. Okay. Let's see if you have any concerns then. Is December 14th getting too late in December for us to want to do that. Which it would be sometimes. It could be any later than 14. Yeah. Yeah. You. It always conflicts with another board of mine. So that's why you never can make these meetings. Oh. Community hardest. That's the second. You're really nice. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't believe in the chairs. Sincere in his regrets that I can't make the meeting. I think you're reading a lot into. People's version. Body language. Body language. Okay. Okay. I'll make a motion. We don't need them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. FYI. Thank you. Very good. I can't. Thank you. Update on time. Did we get it? I can't represent it. I haven't really seen. The. Responses are due on the 15th and I have not got anything. Okay. Yeah. Today is the 12th. Okay. Yeah. I haven't seen anything. No. Okay. So. We've got three and I have any of each of your own methods. WLA. On a new appointment. And then the LA wanted to have that meeting to just talk. Really just. Ideas they had questions they had. The biggest question they wanted to ask us was they have considered. Wanted to get our thoughts on. Shifting the building location to where it was closer to the road. There's a lot of reasons for that access to the building creates a more efficient kind of yard for storing materials. They think you can make it easier to build the building. As well. So they really just wanted to know where we. Open to shifting the location of the building. And I think everyone would be open to whatever makes for the most efficient building. And I think everyone would be open to whatever makes for the most efficient and effective design process. So. Doing that. Would, you know. Create a better potential for snow. The idea was you would kind of have us, the roof would be slanted towards the road. So it would be pitched and dropped. Yeah. Towards the road. So it's. There are lots of reasons for it that it could make a much more efficient building. Yeah. Not only efficient. And. Energy snow. Also efficient. So that. So we basically were like, yeah, you know, whatever they are coming up with in their design and again, they caveat it that way. You know, of course, it all depends on the ground and, you know, there's lots to be figured out there. And then yes, the roof angle that way would provide perfect access for solar panels if we decided to do solar panels on the building. And then throughout that conversation, two buildings that kept showing us that they had designed one was in Georgia and one was in Grand Isle. Georgia was a metal building. Grand Isle was a wood building. So. A trip. I'm off on my days because I happen to get sick. But we took trips to Georgia and Grand Isle with David Roy, the lead architect of WLA. And walk both of the buildings, talk to the road foreman, road crew. About their experiences in the building. Jordan's building is huge. It's significantly bigger, but certainly. It was very fascinating just to see an action. Some of the things we sat in this room and kind of looked out at my plans. So. We're still, again, in the very early phases for this, I mean, the whole idea with this process, if you get a design that could then go out to the general public and with that design will be options. What we can do and not do. One benefit in seeing the Georgia building was we got to see the fire suppression system and tanks in place and see what those tanks look like. In a really cute chat that they have in the town garage. But anyway. That's a plus. I have pictures of the cat. The end pictures of the garage. But so, so the very early stages. So, you know, really it's, I mean, whenever they're asking questions that are more involved, I mean, the idea is we're going to have an owner's rep involved. That will then be bringing these things to you. But if no one responds to that request for bed, I don't know what we're going to do. Yeah. So it'll be something the board will have to address a future meeting. But we'll see. Beds are due back on the 15th. So, and then Zoe, I know you're working with Guthrie to try to get some pictures and to try to get some people an understanding that may not understand why do we need the new town garage. So Zoe has graciously offered to help take some, some photos where we go and whatnot. So hopefully we can. There's some way to like display that at town meeting. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so I mean, right now it's, it's tough because I know residents are curious, but we're, we're in such a beginning stage with this. Andy has great ideas for energy efficiency. That not only will be energy efficient, but could also save money too. So he was great in the meeting with WLA because. Yeah. His ability to bounce off idea of things that, and it's fascinating walks with two of them talk cause they, they kind of love the ideas each of them has. So, so Andy being involved is, is great. And he just has such a really good perspective on building design, but then practical energy efficient ways to approach it. So very thankful. I, you know, as much as he's willing to be involved, I really encourage Andy to participate. Absolutely. You know, I wouldn't want, he, you know, didn't really see, I mean, to go visit the buildings. You know, he can look at plans and. Yeah. He needs that was really important. Mostly we wanted to see them because Georgia is wide open. You can see one end to the other in that building. And it was very interesting because the road foreman there actually commented and said, he wanted it like that because he can see if a guy goes down for the luxury use. And it's an interesting, you know, that we kind of nodded his head because we did have someone recently have a medical emergency at the town garage. And it was an interesting perspective for someone else to say that. Well, the other very interesting thing that there were to do, their building is a category for the building. It is basically equipped for any emergency. But you may have natural disaster. So I mean, I mean, for Florida very similar to category for being very different category for her game. So he said that was very interesting. And that was something that they did, but they're building and we kind of took note of that because he said it provides a structure for their town in the event of tornado. We name it. Their barrage can actually be used as a shelter. If need be. And it is a secure safe building. And they did not have a building of that reading anywhere else in their town. So just some interesting ideas that. You wouldn't really think about until you start getting into this process. So. A WLA is great to work with. Really good choice. Yeah. So question. Moving the building closer to the road. What implication that any, does that have for landscape preparation for the building? Moving dirt. Filling in stuff. Making a flat surface for it. We didn't get into those level of details. Okay. All of that site. Evaluation is part of the building. Yeah. I mean, in general, all of the things being able, I think moving it closer to the road is advantageous. Yeah. Getting away from the wetlands. Stuff like that. It also makes for a more open. Area of store material. Easier to navigate. Accessing material and it actually makes it easier to get in and out of the building. They actually can take the kind of. Figure with this process. We have envisioned this kind of drive through building. You drive through. We would actually put all the doors on one end in this process. And discussed. Accessing because it's kind of difficult right now to get in and out of the lodge. It's actually. A bit nerve wracking to pull out of that garage. Five of them. It's close. When I make a left out event because people are coming off the county quite quickly on Templeton. So if you don't come out quick. You don't have a great line of sight. So this would also help. There were lots of little ideas talking through to all of us. And he's on the application. If I'm moving it closer. Yeah. Maybe she's there. Okay. Thank you. So just stay tuned. I mean, I really, they wanted to see if there was an absolute no appetite. Don't want to move it. That was what they really kind of wanted that day. And then they got tech even with somebody. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's where we are. Okay. Thank you for the. Bill. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's it. That's where we are. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you for the. Yeah. The next item is consideration of Washington. Electrical. Well, the permit to be such that we do 100. Well, electric service line on Cummings road. But they got the. The neighbors or those that are close by. Are they notified of this? Is there. Right. Yeah. If you get solar. Ground down to your neighbors have to do. Is it following the exact. Just. We don't have any information beyond this. Yeah. Why do you want to do it? Is it just lack of capacity? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you want to go through the process and just like why they want to do it. Is it just lack of capacity? I would assume. See, yeah. In my history of this ball, we've gotten in the past. I will involve one of these to you. So. I don't know what the process is if you write questions. It comes in. I'll do us. I assume that. Would not previously put in a 7200. But I could serve a fine. I would film. do we have a degree in electrical engineering? Say the fall of 15,000. Yeah. We would also be asking permission to cut and trim trees and brush that are in the road right away where necessary. Relationship to the land guys doing that. It's only a considerable amount. There must be electric luck there as well. In case they'd already have that permission. Do they ask us when they, when they trim all the trees and do everything they don't come to select work? Why would they even come to us about this? I mean, sure, we choose. But they're saying that when they give us a permit to them, then. Yeah, they will be sure in the trees. Yeah. They're not necessarily asking permission for the trees. They're saying this is what's going to happen. No, no, I understand. Yeah. I mean, it's already a line there, but I think it's just a couple of. What's it here? It says develop both ended right. It's going to be a lot different there. Yeah, but who knows how it gets there. Could be coming the other way. Yeah. Yeah, well, how will I, I think this is fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why are you even asking us. Yeah. Yeah. Putting a bigger. Well, I think I know. There's no. There's no. What's the electric line? Yeah. Which is. They're going through. Increasing the size. Yeah. It is. Oh, okay. It's not my way. They have to communicate with. Proving. Permission. Proving. Okay. Yeah, the original. Well, the original is actually in your back. So we will do that. Right. Do we agree? Is this laptop that we approve this? Yeah. Okay. I think we do. We have in mind. We have in mind. We have a line that you said below the line. Out of the line. We're between one. I guess the three choice we can sign wherever you want. Because it's a couple lines here. Okay. But if you don't feel that. You can say anyway. Okay. I'll wait until I see the Facebook. On the absence of a person that, you know. Like to be told. would like to be told by you. Well, you're just, you're just a sensitive chairman. Well, I'm kind of out of my game. You know, I've been accused of the edit before. I've been told a lot of self-evaluation. I heard it. I heard us about time. Oh, let's put data on it. So today, it's probably over. It'll be two, well, 24, oh, dated at 23, 23, 23, 23, 24, dated at East Montcontreuse. I think it's going to work. Yeah. Montcontreuse. It looks like it's close to nine o'clock. It's all special conditions. That's a long one. Look. Russia. I think they're going to be okay with that. I think so too, but I'm realizing that I'm screwing up. Can you give us a more detailed model on how you do that? Well, I'm good. It's kind of a mistake. Okay. So. How are you doing there, Seth? Great. Oh, you want to start the next. No, I want. I'm going to order. We can start that. I'm going to order breakfast. Okay. I just said the next item is the access. That's a wise move. So this is an access permit to move his driveway from Vermont, root 14 to new access off of panel Hill road. And. That. I'm a little bit confused. I don't know what to do. The, the existing driveway under root 14 will be there, but it will be the other landowner using it. So it's a driveway on the 14 to land over new. That's right. And so one, a circle here will no longer use that. Right. Right. Okay. So it's not removing an access under 14, but it is removing one property owner's use of that access. And thereby removing the traffic on it. And I think it's a good idea in general to. I think it's a good idea to have access to properties off of roads, like Hannah Hill rather than roads, like you're 14. So I'm, I'm in favor of it. Yeah, I'm a little curious and I would ask, is there a map here? Yeah. Yeah. You should do regularly. Oh, I see. Kind of a thing right there. And. Thanks. So three has to officially sign the permit. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It must be a way to do it. You have the original. There's that. I'll go and talk with the wife. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's so deep. I mean, I only landed off the road. I thought. I think. That's a good question. It is live. So it would keep the lives of the place. No. Typically the DRB like a silence. So come to the select. Oh yeah. I think because. Okay, so I know that anybody else? No, no, I move to approve permit number 24001 application for Emmett Hill Road, the discontinuation of the access of that property to loop 14. I'll second it. Oh, I thought that was a problem. Oh, that's right here. Well, all right, all right. It's all right. I'll second it. They're all up to say to me. Any further discussion about the access? All the day with this guy. All right, good. You sure? 100 percent sure? 100 percent. Okay, fine. Okay, next thing on our agenda are warrants. Yeah, right here. We lost our audience. We boarded to death. The last one just left. But you know, people who are watching this on three flights in the future. All of them. Yes. Future viewers. The injection is starting to have an administrative report while we're viewing the PSI warrants. Yes, one of your wiser moves of the evening. Okay. No, no. No, okay. So what do you have for us? You have the only permit application that's coming into the man. You know, everything I want to let you guys know is I'm working on updating all the town shop descriptions and looking through them. They're quite old. The town treasurer job description was never updated for the conversion of the position to full time. I don't have one. It has a draft water on it. It was never finalized. So one of the things I have one wanted to do was implement a performance review process. But if you do not have good job descriptions, you cannot review performance. So in general, this is something we just we need to get cleaned up. I have the latest, you know, some tea templates. Excuse me. I just want to make sure that we're still okay with our participants here because I don't see our camera up there. Ruby, what's going on? Everybody's here. Everybody there is there on yours. Okay. Okay. The camera up there is on. Okay. Can we turn it back on? Just so people, if anybody tunes in, they can see. Yeah. Is that something you're going to do? Sure. Okay. Okay. A hardware issue. Let's see if everybody can go back up right now. Yes. Okay. It's something that needs to be done because we do not have a clear set of job descriptions and it's, I had not realized that the treasure of this job description was not updated when Sydney position was converted to full-time and so 2015 was the last day on the weekend. And that was the job description the position was hired to. Okay. Yeah. So I don't know if you have any feedback, concerns, I mean anything I draft, I will then bring to you. Yeah. No, thank you for doing that. We did not realize, you know, I did not realize that we'll not speak for other people. You told me apparently this Bible kind of is discussed and not updated the treasure of job description when the position was hired and she didn't give me the rationale behind why. But. Oh, I think because we saw a baby lingering that position with an adult is why we didn't update that baby, you know, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. The need to schedule this again, I just think it's a conflict with April. Yeah. Not back to the 16th. Any way to get more than you need. How does that one think about the next April 27? Okay. So I'm not okay. It's a Monday's problem. Jesus. Yeah, I mean just the next Monday. No issue. Don't need just those. They just always do and work very well. In case you have to bring your tax to the IRS, you'll have to be free to. Yeah. No, that works fine. Yeah. That's what we're going to do. That works good for me. Actually, you get with that. Everybody else. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. 22nd. Yeah. It is Earth Day and Passover. 22nd. Yeah. I'll bring the matzah. That's right. Happy hour. I got to do this before it's here. Nothing on the business now. I had to close that. I think we should have done it first. You need to be now. I don't remember what it was. I don't know what that was. I should have mentioned before. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Wow. Motion to adjourn. Fuck it. You think that's appropriate? The one we can vote, yeah. We don't have to vote for. Well, it doesn't have to be affirmative vote. Well, you know, because you think I have to go on. No, just a little levity. It's still wasn't. This was like a vanilla. That was like just more. That was just people who just wasn't. Kind of vanilla meeting. Yeah, exactly. Other than good people. Other than, you know, it was another thing. It's kind of a different thing. So those are all tax-reported. That is what I think. The person who was on this meeting. There's a patron. Yeah. It's very confusing. Oh, really? Yeah. Just because I saw something wrong. Yeah. Thank you. Let's go. Let's keep this until the end. We're still recording. That's fine. Yeah. I'm not recording. I'm just saying the reason that I won this on Degenerty was for so long because. Okay. I think we should. Yep. Yeah. Okay. All right. Good. All right. I'll agree with you. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Now you can turn it on.