 Options to participate. Now let's get to our first presentation, The Electrical Horrors of India. And it's presented to you by Roberto. Have fun! Hi, welcome to a relaxing session. Well, it's probably your start of the day. The night has been deep with some pictures. I'm often called Bertl. This is the nickname under which you can find me. And I belong to the Chaos Trev Chemnitz. And when I was seven, I connected my first light bulb. And got a shock right away. And that is... Well, later I started collecting electrical horror pictures. And I've given this talk on two or three other congresses with other pictures. This time we have India as our point of focus. Let's start. You can see here a typical electrical room. It doesn't look too bad. But well, as you see, it's not difficult to get in direct touch with 400 volt. I'm always happy to see new things. Also, Indian outlets are quite interesting because they have large 10 amp outlets. And then you have those smaller holes that you can also use, apparently. This is a temple. And it seems that... Well, it isn't very well managed. And also with the rains. More or less illegal power supply. Hopefully they did a good job with duct tape. Now, so, like how they separate the cables. Well, at the same time you have connections that ensure that the power cable doesn't fall down. So, that's a classic cable case somewhere in the city. Just enjoy the view. The worst I've ever seen was in Lebanon. Here you can see some old English installations. Probably not carrying power. But I like how the open cables are just hanging out. New Delhi. Probably a permanent installation at the fort. So, they just put everything on the neon light. No comment needed. Badly isolated cables. It gets even better here. At the children's carousel. Probably the whole structure is under power. And it's not just 12 volts or something. No, it's 240 volts. I made sure to measure. I whipped out my voltmeter. I wanted to whip out my voltmeter, but I didn't have it with me. But, yeah, you can just have a touch to check directly. They're living a dangerous life. There's also something like that in Germany. And here, EP67 with the original plastic wrapper. The switch with plastic foot. I don't know if you can see it. The wires are connected by screws. And then you have the wire on the left to switch it on and off. I don't know. It doesn't get any better here. Because of course the whole structure is under power here as well. It just goes on like that. I don't even know where to start. Somehow they survive it. Rain also falls on this structure. But as long as there's no smog in it, it doesn't conduct. Talking about smog. We have modern LEDs with old neon tubes. It can be good that the wire is under power, but it's dirty. But it seems to be grounded, so it's all good. You can see that the connection has this funny loop. If a child falls out on the left and decides to grab the wrong poles, that was that. Trash on the streets put also this old power box here. This seems to be from the Victorian era. The cable is leading directly into the building. The main cable is on the street. And you can see that the new street light has been connected in a very funny fashion. And you see all of those little cables hanging out here and there. It's not difficult to imagine why there's so many power outages in India. Typical store electrical connection. You don't know if there's power on it. I think on this one I can be pretty sure because there's a display. I don't know what the second cable is doing up there, but it doesn't seem to have any function. Typical street. Almost boring. They didn't have space for the street light up there, so they just put it down there. What do we have here? It's almost like an artwork. That's one way to do it. And the isolation. I don't know. Maybe it isn't even in use, but I wouldn't rely on that. What do we have here? Maybe it's a meter box and a fuse box up there. Maybe it isn't in use, but if you're not using it, why not put it down because it's scaring me. They did a good job in ensuring that the cables don't touch. I wouldn't do it like that. I wouldn't be so sure that the power gets out on the other side, but somebody will have tested it, I'm sure. Here the sun and the weather did their thing. It doesn't look like it's carrying power because if it would, you would see the lightning. I often see cable constructions like that that are basically worn down to the core. Typical house entry. Nice DIY connections. And miraculously it's working. This is less about electrics, but I like how the boats have made their nest from the traffic light installation. Open cables. It seems to be professionally done. Isolation is broken, but at least it's still closed properly. This is a typical street electrical installation. You even have fuses here, but this one seems broken and they've just used other means to connect it. It's been bypassed. Depending on how high the voltage should be. At least you can really tell if you want the 420. Not very spectacular, not much power, just don't touch it. Time passes well, I can go slower. We have enough time so I can go through the photos a little more slowly. What do we have here? It's leaving the power box and then up there where's the light. It seems to go to the next building. Whatever is going on there. That's a typical installation. Often you have grits and bars to keep people from touching them and there's the electrics. In that case, harmless. You can't touch it except you reach over the bars, but I wouldn't even want to touch the bars with a 10 foot pole. I took this photo from a taxi ride in a taxi ride in Hyderabad. I think it's between 10 and 22 kV going down there. You could sit right next to that, but it seems to be a little bit behind. But these are hands-on transformators like this one. I'm 1 meter 86 and if I reach out, well it's only 240 volts, but they're not installed very high above the ground. Telephone wise. So if you ever wonder why the German telecom is so slow, at least they do a proper job. But you can't be sure about that either. That's a typical electrical box with slightly corroded cables with the black wire down there. I'm not sure what it is. Please don't close the door. Here someone really went above and beyond and built their own switch. I can't even see an error, but should the wires go into the screws? But at least they glued it on something. That was at a wedding I went to. The musicians DIY this beautiful installation. Do you want to marry or do you want to die? It's not so bad, but still people buy some proper plugs. You did such a good job with the extension line. You could have just bought a proper plug. They've probably all melted off. A professional extension probably the plug didn't fit. So just let's just bypass it. This is something you also see very often. You can see they've ensured that the cables can't melt. Maybe they were a little too lazy. I don't know what the aluminum patch down there has to say. I don't know if that's part of the manual. This is the side view. I was wondering, is that intentionally configured in a way that you can touch the bare cable? Also a very typical thing to see with these melting fuses right behind this wire fence. The lead here is probably not the neutral wire. It's also very corroded and is even exposed down there. And once the next dark piece there, it's probably dead. Not that animal friendly. This is also very beautiful, right? Someone who can tell me what is connected to what gets a piece of chocolate from me. I have an LED lamp on top of there. And the house connections seem to be done properly as well with those clips up there. Nice thing. Why should one cut off trees? Because they will interfere and could burn up on these wires or even lead to unwanted currents. I thought I would have seen that the tree was smoking a bit, but it didn't. Yeah, the lead already had straight lines. Could have been straighter. There are also melting fuses. This is what it should look like on the right, that's the replacement. This is again on a height where just a small stone under your feet you can probably reach it, which is a little too close for my taste. Or this, for example. It's nice that I put a fence around it, but I can just take my hand over the fence and grab into it. Even says danger there, but I think it's beautiful. Okay, now we're almost done. This is a nice big heap of sand, so you can't get to it. But this is right on the street. There are these two big poles and they are very young. And then right on there are a lot of wires freely accessible. Yeah, two times inside. Oh no, this is a new thing. They are regularly inspected probably. But you can see they do have fiber internet. But maybe this also might not properly work. I don't know, does anybody have opinions on this? Fiber strands seem to be connected still. I've heard they are very delicate. This fuse apparently popped out. We have the same thing, now it's probably getting boring. This fence is technically there, but it's a little too permeable. We have another nice electrical installation with one melting fuse. And that thing to the right I can't really make out what it is. Just a big mess of wires on the left side. There's another melting fuse. It appears to be live since the display isn't showing any digits. Yeah, that's basically everything for this edition. Is there any questions? No, sir. Unfortunately. Translator's note. Hello. Okay, he's back. Hello. So yeah, I'm just showing you my original, properly certified Indian safety electrical shoes. And then there are a few questions. For example, here's the question. You have information about what it looks like with accidents. Does this just work? And Jasper Germans complaining? No, I don't have any statistics for that. I would tend to say only we're complaining. And I feel like you will just learn as a kid to not touch any of this stuff. Maybe there's some Darwinian evolution. They who do. Some natural selection. And maybe those who accidentally touch it will, after some generations, maybe two people will probably learn. The next thing to say is 240 volts are often survivable. Very nice pictures. Some of them seemed familiar to me. The thing I saw was a very recently built shopping mall. And then somebody just punched out a corner from a tile. And there was just a electrical socket coming out of there on a wire. And then I was just put in there and a bunch of water put over it. Also very beautiful. And then a little tip for those of you that had just missed your power adapters. There are currently only two plugs. So the plugs are called agent J, I think. I am not entirely sure about those numbers. But one of those at least has the correct width for the power leading plugs of the European plugs. But before we remove or push in the safety pin. Those are some other standards that you are talking about. I actually didn't have a big problem with the European plugs. Since the old British standard system, which is what the Indians use, that actually fits as roughly the same width as the new British standard. But as you said, you probably need to professionally with a screwdriver to cut away the shielding for the safety pin. And then you can put a European plug with bad quality in there. In the Arabic countries that is a bit different. Because there they use the extremely safe British standard. And they use it for high current, high wattage European plugs. That will lead to bad contact. This was just a suggestion for the desperate travelers. All of this is actually not designed to do at home. How long do we have time? Because I do also have the Oriental Edition. There is one more question that I could pose to you. One more photos. The question was, are there copper thieves? Well, all the stuff that's hanging around there, it looks like it might be worth a fortune. Also, there was another note about that. Another person said that that might not be actual copper. Yeah, actual copper, I didn't see a lot. I did not really pay attention to that a lot. And I don't have any statistics about this either. But yeah, maybe. That is a question one might pose to itself. I've heard that in Africa, the phone lines are often taken down. Which leads to less telephony but more copper. That you can then burn on some fields. Let's look at some more photos from the Orient. I'll have a look where I can get them from. My deep network. The depth of my network box. I'm not very much prepared for that. I thought I would use the time better. Yeah, the chat speculates. Chat is speculating more about the usage of copper versus aluminium. Otherwise, the chat said something about changing transport. I wasn't sure. We are seeing Arabic letters, but those are from Persia. Because it also includes pictures from Iran. But they do a half-proper semi-proper job, let's say. But I also have the gas horrors. Because they have gas pipes overground. Why ever they would do that. And of course they have massive gas leaks. I saw that on a wall. That is a control for a light. I think it was in Uzbekistan. They built their own street lights. Because the state left them to themselves. So they just did this DIY thing without a fuse box. But it seems to be working for them. That's in Kashan in Iran. And I just thought it's a beautiful old town. Beautiful roofs and tiles. In the midst of that, this lamp. Just enjoy the view. You have a thought somewhere there, I think. Next to it. Generally, in Iran, cables are quite neat. But people privately, they just do what they want. This was from some kind of festival. The details aren't very, it's a bit grainy in quality. But the wiring was very interesting. I'm pretty sure it's beautiful at night. Also some fascinating wiring on the left with the light bulbs. Switched somewhere in between. Yeah, you probably have some security or safety qualms there. Legitimately so. I took some more detailed pictures. Those are some sad pictures more like. Seems legit. Any comments, criticism? Looks like our fuse box at the Congress. You shouldn't put your fingers too deep in there. Might hurt. That's in an oriental bathhouse. That's no longer in use. Yeah, who doesn't put their light bulb directly into the outlet? I seem to have a thing for this type of construction. Not very spectacular. I think it's worse when you aren't used to that level of electrics. This is an AC unit. It still works, but seems to have had incidents with melting and fuming. Another fuse box. They did a nice job ensuring that all the cables fit in. This is at a market. And you have the wires going from place to place. And somebody took the opportunity and used it. Looks neat. I should have showed you that in the beginning. But you can see the Arabic letters. Very different in Persia, but not the same. This is one, two, three, four, five, six. They could have done a little more neat job, but right. You can see open wiring in the market and things attached to it. The extension line there is coming from somewhere else. It's coming from inside, but it's just thrown over the main line. I don't know if there are often outages. This C16 is a security switch, safety switch in a store behind the conserves. So don't reach too far into the shelf. Not very professional. I took this photo just for the beauty's sake. A bird's nest in a light. The contrast could be better, but yeah. Bakery. You shouldn't touch this box. Now they managed to put a conductor through that. This installation here didn't make it better. Old, but it works. I found it fascinating that they chose to install the electric wires around the gas installation. But that's just my German thinking. This was the hairdryer we were offered at the hotel. I put it into the outlet and it worked. Yes, it smelled. And no, I didn't continue using it. Apparently the heat works well. Pretty, yes. That is the upper part of the hotel. That's 220 volt LED. And they're connected quite properly. Nice construction with duct tape and outlets. Properly connected to the outlet. But when you look at how the outlets are connected to one another. With this thing resting on stone. The couches or whatever that is, you can sit on. Just metal in the air and that wiring. So I was wondering whether I should risk sitting down. It's not open, but maybe you get the same anxiety as I do. That's from below. That's on the ground. Don't step on it. If you value your life between the couches. Yeah, that's the installation. Maybe you thought it was a plug, but no. I informed them about my qualms. And that we're doing it a little bit differently in Germany. They just looked at me. I think they were speaking. I think they thought that I was speaking Chinese. Yeah, a few spots. You don't have that much rain in Iran. But if it rains, it pours. It's in the middle of the desert. This is a very old installation. German model. It seems to have been delivered to Iran from Germany, which is why we also have the European outlets or the predecessor. In better installations, you can actually find German safety plugs. But not here. It seems to be working. That's in Turkmenistan. In the middle of the desert. I found this thing quite beautiful. But in comparison to the stuff we saw in other places, this is quite harmless. The kids play. They're right next to it. There are a couple of wires coming out of the wall. It's a quite modern city of Ashkabat. The white city, which has lots and lots of street lights. The government talks so much about how they have the most beautiful and most white city. And then around the next corner, you can see people living in quite poor conditions. This is a tower that collects together similar to the Eiffel Tower in Paris. And one looks at it more closely. This is not very nice wiring. This is low voltage. Probably. Maybe it's also high voltage. It's highly voltage, low voltage cables. It was in one very, very windy hotel. I can't recommend Turkmenistan. You pray a lot. And you get press service and area service. The rug in this corner was still the best corner. And then these European plugs just come out of the wall, including the plug socket. And this is another street light that was just put up by some people, which apparently fell down at some point. And since the E40 socket doesn't really work, there's just an E27 socket wired right next to it. This is Uzbekistan. They also have the Soviet installation technology. I only would have to make myself a little taller to get near the very deadly voltages of over 12 kV. This is in a mosque where one can cool down a bit. It's right next to a boiler. This boiler apparently at some point pulled a little more power out of this fuse. Also nobody needs a protection wire. But this little wire twirling is also very nice. This also looks like this light was run at too high wattage. Also somebody is stealing some power here, but that might also be official. There's also a pigeon living in this one. And this also fascinated me in Uzbekistan. There is this ice machine model where there's ice cream up there. And it's operated from this bed drive. And whoever gets too close to the ice cream machine is probably getting shocked, but it might be an effective form of theft protection. I decided not to use this ice cream, not to buy this since I also had hygienic doubts. There's a streetlight where they have these small fuses in there. I also found very interesting that these wooden poles were just elongated because they were too short before. You can explain why it is done this way. I don't really know. It might be some Soviet technology as well. I wouldn't want to go too close to those. This is another professional wire elongation from some sort of construction site. You can see the plug up there. And down there is the socket. This is IP67 plastic wrapped with an old plastic bag. There we have a security box. That would be a pretty good specter. It's usual. Spectacular. It's neutral. So what do we see here? Cable, professional. Also very professional. Very nice. There was another hotel newly built. And you can see the incredible quality. This is the roof. You could just go on top of the roof. And there were lights everywhere and sockets. They were just fed from wires all throughout brick wall. They were also just twirled together in some places. I also met the electrician there that did something. You can see him here. They professionally put in their work equipment. And then I showed them cargo clamps on my phone. But they said, we have tape and that works perfectly fine. And that's the state of the art there. So that works fine. That's their fuse box. What happens to the wires down there? See here, this is the proper sensor for the FI switch. Another self-built power pole. And basically everything you need for a little bit of street lights. What do the heralds say? Do we have enough time? How much time do we still have? You can see our professionally done overground gas pipe. Sometimes you can also hear our CO2 and gas exhaust. When we're staving on emissions around here, then they just eject methane gas into the environment. But they also have parasitic gas. It would be to close down the refineries, but they probably have it the easiest to just let it out in the environment and the atmosphere. This looks all properly grounded, but it's still not very beautiful. The last nine minutes open for questions, since we probably won't get through the party pictures I have left. Are there any questions? No, actually not that much. There is a joke about the famous last words of, look how insecure this is. And then they did to the gas topic in the Caucasian area. I saw this a couple of times, Georgia and Armenia. There were gas cars that were retrofitted to use natural gas. For example, a personal car, but they actually have a whole battery of gas flasks on top of the car. I don't know what the pressure is on those, but I always assumed that they could be used as a sideways rocket in case of an emergency or accident. Those kinds of cars also occurred to me in my travels. The gas bottles are definitely extending outwards of the footprint of the car. Maybe I can find some photos of those. There are loads of above ground gas pipes. Just those things that you said about the elongation of power poles. That seems to be a Soviet style. Extend the default pole length. I think the longest I've seen is three on top of each other. Here you can also see an open fire right next to a gas pipe. That should be insulated, but I don't really trust it. This is also very beautiful. If it wasn't this insecure and bad for the environment, this power pole is almost falling over onto the gas pipe. This is also a nicely curved pipe. This is what you meant, right? This is one of those Soviet models that is often be seen retrofitted like this. I'll see it as soon as the stream has caught up. I think we're talking about the same thing. I assume that this is often retrofitted like this. I saw that the door opens wider than the gas bottles extend over the cabin. Probably also rides like this for over 50 years or something. This is mostly experience based, apparently. Chat wants more pictures. And then there's another question. Are there more talks made by you other than the one from 34C3? Yes, there are, but they are often of another nature and more sober. One I do together with Carola about the accessibility of applications and what to pay attention to in that regard. That is tomorrow at 1.30pm. If not, people might have to ask you more to do more talks like this. I guess I have to travel again. I'm looking for it properly. I could also assemble a talk like this. In India I also saw a little gecko hiding under a Wi-Fi router. Otherwise, I don't need to unnecessarily extend this entire thing.