 Thank you all for being here on this wonderful, born day in Texas. No laugh, doesn't it? It's too much to laugh. Seriously. We are, you know, here we are in July. Just a few months before we make our recommendations to the city. So I want to thank you all for all the work that you've been putting in, you know, for the last course and all your committees. I know, you know, we're on the down end now and so we appreciate all your time and effort and energy that you've put into this committee and this task force. I'm going to ask my co-chairs if they have anything that they would like to hear or say. Lily? I just want to thank those who have been able to join us over at the Country Club. The women's union, I thought it was brilliant. Okay, let's still get another audience to help with messaging. And those of you who weren't able to come up to inspire me. Oh, yeah, I think we're on the road now, so let's just do this thing. Yeah, the last meeting, you know, I was walking through the streets of Israel and trying to imagine what could be if everyone came together as one, trying to do now. And when thinking about that also this morning a quote came across my mind by Van Gogh that says in a realm of ideas everything depends on enthusiasm in the real world all rest on perseverance. So I thank you for persevering up until this point and I thank you for your ideas and I think if we put both together enthusiasm, ideas and perseverance without doubt we will be able to come up with recommendations that will increase as I would hope one day in the Holy Land brings peace to the Holy Land of four worlds. So thank you very much. Thank you. Next on our agenda is the regional minutes from our June 18 meeting. I hope you have all had a chance to review that. Two introductions of two individuals. As you know we had a couple of people and relocation and so forth. We also have just recently received right in a miles of resignation as well and we'll need to talk about that a little bit later on. But today we have Sarah Gillespie and Margaret Monless that we'd like to say thank you. Thank you for coming in on the here we are towards the end of the task force and the committee structure but I know your willingness to participate to help in this endeavor because of the work that you all have done in the past as well to the city and to the communities that you live in but Sarah I'd like for you to say a few words about yourself. Hi I'm Sarah Gillespie I'm a principal currently in Fort Worth IC at Westliffe Elementary. I've been there for 13 years and I've been with Fort Worth IC for 16 years. I was the assistant principal before that I was the principal of a pre-kaker 12 private school for 3 years and then I taught secondary mostly English and a little elementary as well so I'm just ed care. I live in Fort Worth and I'm so honored to be here I can only speak. I'm honored and nervous and just looking forward to learning and contributing as much as I possibly can. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you Sarah. Gilbert. My name is Gilbert Mardis and I by way of vocation I'm a pastor of a church in the Riverside area. I'm in the class of some church and I'm also director of public relations for a hospice company that visits here for a refund across the country. Made to be here I have not been born here I wasn't born before I was born in San Antonio my dad was a pastor so I pretty much spent my pretty much a good part of my early life traveling I finished basically my academic career here in the best college ever which is TCU and that's my national TCU so that's been real a little blessing in that process I have two children two recent grandchildren one year and a half and the other two years so that's been pretty interesting to go into the role of a grandfather I'm still not attacking well but I'll proceed as best I can but otherwise I am a real blessing to be a part of this I've always been sort of a part of the city of Fort Worth anyway while I was finishing my my doctorate I did about six years in the housing department so I had a good chance to see how the city operates especially in the business so it's been a real joy to sort of go through this process and be a part of this as well so thank you so much for doing this welcome to both of you the next is an update on the work program for leadership training estrus what we discussed around the engagement practices for leaders with the community leaders and organizational leaders has now evolved in a good deal in response rolls into your request to our council people so we're crafting what will be a two hour engagement training for each of the council's constituencies so we're in the process of landing on dates and I had some idea of what that would be like in the summer and it's living up to it but we're getting in that we're getting close I think so still good interest and again just designing kind of the core of what these all day trainings have been probably in a two hour session some may be a little bit longer but that's what we're going to be prepared to offer so it looks like that will be mostly all of us does anybody have any questions of estrus? estrus do you want to elaborate a little bit about the districts that you're going to be doing training in? it's council district two it'll be council district three council district eight and nine two three eight nine two is Carlos Flores three is Brian Bird three is Kelly Allen Gray and nine is Ann Zeta just out of curiosity what the districts picked were they council members were they volunteers they were volunteers but we made our presentation to the council in early May we had asked because of the leadership training that was going on we had asked any of the council members at that time if they would like to expand that training to the leadership of their community their districts that we'd be glad to share that information and participate and create some leadership programs for them so that's where it came from it seemed like a dumb question but did the ones that did volunteer I don't know if they were in a group when they were asked but did they know who did amongst themselves because it was at the three council Linda is that's been on disparities? she didn't do that she's still going to tell you but as of last Friday I did speak with Linda about the work we've done about national legal cities and the contract with us and L.C. has not yet completed their work we're more satisfied and we'll be working with them to complete that assignment and if they should fail to do so then we will look to other ways they can next on your in front of you you should have a draft and this is to talk about the summary of committee recommendations this is of course not all the substance that's going to go behind it but this will give you an overview of what everybody is doing in each of their committees but it will also show you some overlaps of some specifically in economic development when you see transportation and of course the transportation committee is looking at transportation as well to give a report the chair of each of these committees to give us a little bit of tidbit of where you're looking at on these strategies and of course our recommendations or our draft recommendations will be completed we hope by August 3rd we know that some of y'all are closer than others I know for the transportation committee we need again this Thursday and we'll be working on ours to pursue ours to have them completed by August 3rd Fernando would you like to add anything to that I want to be sure everyone is looking at the correct one page summary it has a green stripe across the top this is a draft discussion by task force members it has the date July 16th at 4 p.m. we were getting updates from various committees until around 4.30 actually so we would like for you to treat this one page summary just that behind each of these strategy recommendations is typically two pages of detailed information produced by each committee on the form that we distributed for your use I think it's important that we thank the committees for your hard work an extraordinary amount of work has gone into these recommendations as we'll hear from the committee chairs I think in some cases the work is 90% complete in other cases and maybe a little less than that but our aim is to get all of the committee reports submitted to us by August 3rd that's a Friday so that the following Monday at the next meeting of the co-chairs the co-chairs will have the opportunity at first glance to review all the recommendations and begin determining what additional work remains to be done so we want to thank the committees for your hard work you'll note that in addition to the six committees criminal justice and transportation we've also added these seventh items we'll recognize the specific topics associated with the seventh item because we've discussed them before these are items that have not fit neatly under any of the six committees and they happen to revolve around the topic of government they include and we'll talk about these further an independent citizen redistributed commission this task force has discussed that idea at some length over the course of the past year we've also talked about the effectiveness of the human relations commission and we talked maybe less but to some degree about the mission of the human relations union Angie and Rush will talk with us further about that the idea is that if you consider it appropriate we'd like you to consider appointing a seventh committee that will detail these recommendations with support from Miss Rush and her staff in the human relations union so this afternoon we'd like to spend the bulk of our time hearing from each committee about the status of the recommendations essentially where do you think this recommendation ought to be leading us why do you think it will address the identified disparities how do you think five years from now if we implement the recommendation we will have made measurable progress toward reducing or eliminating the identified disparities and this will give us an opportunity for all task force members if they wish to ask any questions that might be relevant and the purpose of having everything on a one page summary is to help you decide from a 30,000 foot level whether there are any major issues that we may have failed to capture in working through the committees I know Rabbi Blum has already asked some questions have we adequately addressed this topic or that so this is an opportunity to ensure that we cover the waterfront before we get further into the details of each individual recommendation so thank you can I make a motion that we formally accept the addition of a seventh committee to the other six that we already well let's make a second and then we can have a discussion now is there any discussion on this because we had talked about these topics early on and we've talked about them throughout so I have a question and it's more so just to try and jot the difference between the Human Relations Commission and the Human Relations Commission the Human Relations Commission is a citizens group appointed by the City Council to provide the oversight of our work in enforcing civil rights laws and other efforts to promote Human Relations the Human Relations Unit is the staff organization it's a unit of the City Manager's Office it's a staff to the Human Relations Commission I know you're familiar with the Human Relations Commission for about a few years yes that's correct a few years ago I hear it's called the unit and the unit is the staff to the commission so they go hand in hand anti-rush is administrator of the Human Relations Unit would support the Human Relations Commission thank you thanks for that question we're good anybody else that would be appropriate since you've just created a new committee to appoint members of the task force to that committee and to select a chair would you accept nominations that would be appropriate I would take nominations but I would recommend Charles Boswell to take leave as chair because he knows the ins and outs of how the city works and he's very familiar with all three of this he's the one that also brought the independent Citizens Registry Commission to us and made the presentation this is hot I know I've set up but anybody that would like to volunteer to work on that committee just send Bernando an email or just let us know before you leave here tonight that you're interested in serving and that way we'll take those names down so we've got Mr. Boswell Mr. Mattis Rabbi Blooms anybody else anybody else I would just say yes that's even more of a reason to get on the committee your wife has the little one you I'm going to destroy that no just let us know because we've got only about three weeks to come up with the recommendations for this so we'll start getting together to take a look at it so if you can let us know say by the end of this week I think everybody a little bit of the time and let's go into our committee reports Todd if I may as far as we go if I could add a strategy that I don't think I would capture from all this time but it also has to be the promotion so I can speak up please one thing that I would like to capture is that I capture one of my favorite on this draft form is the diversity within specialized units of the police department in the promotion in the diversity amongst the first level of promotion as well if I may if I may just add something too for the new members these committees came about as a result of the feedback we got from the community discussions and so you may be wondering how did we select these we just we took all of that discussions and they created focus groups around them so we can get the biggest financial budget out of those discussions so that's how it makes anything yes and just to make sure that I'm not following what we're talking about but to make sure that I'm giving the task force the information that we need but within this particular part of our strategies are you more so asking why did we come up with these potential recommendations behind that strategy just to make sure with regards to strategy number one with the citizens review award and a lot of our task and a lot of our town hall meetings and individual conversations with people in the community this has been a popular request to be made and to support where I believe the task that our committee believes that will support this full work is the largest city in the state and maybe in the country that does not have a citizens review award we bring an arrest data to where 41% of African Americans make up the arrest in the city but only make the total population of 18% a lot of citizens in the African American community believe that African Americans are being targeted citizens review award could create hope in the relationships between law enforcement as well as the community is our belief and also reviewing what Dallas has done and what Austin has done but their citizens review award it's fairly really used I think Dallas when we met with Dallas I think they said they received maybe 12 complaints and it's not more so to review officer discipline but to allow citizens who may have a complaint that once they go through the complaint process and they don't feel resolved in the manner that they see fit it gives them an opportunity to appeal to the citizens review award that says okay well I know that eternal affairs said that the officer wasn't wrong or he wasn't rude to me but I still feel like he was rude to me and that in which case the citizens review award will go back and make their recommendation for future purposes we think that this could have been handed a little bit differently or maybe reviewed the policy a little bit different but not actually they don't have access to that police officer who subjects public complaints of that nature and so some citizens review award we looked at had subpoena power some did also that goes into whether or not the foreword the council and the mayor that's appropriate but based off the information that we have from data as well as the people in the community this is probably the number one thing that can come about from our community so have you been able to research the pros and the cons not just the pros of it but also the cons because you know good matter not everybody jumps on board strategic plans I think a lot of the cons actually has come from I don't know some officers I think mistaken belief that it's going to be citizen policing officers and I think it's more so not a citizen review award it's actually going to be critiquing officer punishment but more so looking at civilian complaints and so kind of how that works and also with the meat from part of the contract it's something that will have to be negotiated into the meat from part contract or if it's a provision that the city can move for without the officers the POA agreeing to has been a cons some people believe that it's not necessary that we're going to make a big change in implementation but because of a few isolated incidents that we're making wholesale changes so that's good kind of pushback to the cons to where are we being too you know we're being too overcorrect you know the Jack and Craig incident I'm making wholesale changes with the citizen review award and Cory and Bishop Kirkland feel free to jump in on what pros and cons we've heard I haven't heard the cons I've heard have been from people who have been going to have a problem with the city and feel like they were wrong the family members feel like they were wrong and I don't think it would be counter it would be a conjunction with the police department it's not to critique that it's just an avenue for the citizens to build the coast and that door is shut by the police department because the investigation is closed some of them feel like they didn't get their portion heard fully so I haven't really heard the things that and that's one thing with the police office association they were here and I asked them do you have a problem with that and both of them said no Nester said that he would like to have some training for those individuals to speak one of the best things that every person here should go to the police academy and go through that training because it will open up your eyes in different perspectives if you have one because they have a top notch facility down there on the training and some of the things that they do so you were very impressed I took my son he wanted his friends down there with one of the police officers like my wife it's very important and I don't know if this might be trying to leave my attorney hat on and in our recommendations I was thinking about what we submitted give different cities what they're doing what their citizen review board will say this is what they're doing if we need to propose legislation of what it looks like we're probably going to resist it considering on what seeing what other cities are doing and comparable sizes or other sizes and municipalities kind of what they're doing and allowing the council and the mayors to say this is what everyone else is doing and structuring how they see fit but this is the recommendation of the agency because we want to make sure it's data driven I think more importantly if you could put together a couple of examples of the types of cases look at the mission statement one of the words in the mission statement is to listen so it fits very well within what we set up so it gives us another listening mechanism it's what I'm hearing and I agree I think that people sometimes want just another way of expressing themselves and I don't know the structure, the formal structure and feedback that we would get from it but in a formal in terms of field power and all that but just to be heard sometimes what people feel valued over is just to be heard so I think that fit that recommendation would fit very well with that mission statement I want to do strategy number two and number three together because they kind of go hand in hand the police cadet program was mainly geared for what to do with our potential officers that were occurred to or 18 or 20 who don't quite need the eligibility to actually go through the academy and talking from from various officers within the PD is that that program was very helpful to keeping homegrown talent within the Fort Worth it's a lot harder nowadays to keep I'm trying to solve the problem but millennials between the younger millennials between 18 to 20 engage in trying to keep them interested in going into law enforcement program that help build that gap on kind of filling their time before they're eligible to go into the academy as well and then also can actually help number three with the recruitment you know under chief Wyndham in the 80s there was a 30% minority representation of law enforcement which was a lot of mechanical homegrown Fort Worth, Taren County residents and now the demographic is down so roughly I don't remember I want to say 14% African-Americans and about 18% Hispanics I believe and a lot of the minority of particularly African-American recruits aren't coming from Fort Worth they're coming from more of the targeted recruiting efforts on East Coast from the historical black colleges and universities but the cadet program if we put the resources back within our city we can also have officers back who are traveling those communities to where they can run from I know we have the information from the previous cadet program that they had I know they have the Fort Worth Explorer program that has a lot of diversity within that program but is geared towards more so teenagers and not so many you have a few more years before they're actually eligible to you know they have the same problem say in 18, 20 you know what's needed to kill that boy and so and also talking with the recruitment I believe it was two officers that do all the recruitment for the entire PD and if you're going to be intentional if you're going to two people with a PD that has over a thousand plus offers real recruitment and expectancy Philadelphia, New York, Houston various schools that do recruitment how effective can you be you know we sat down, we met with them I believe they're doing they've done a lot of good efforts to try to recruit African Americans, Hispanics, Asians males, females but I don't think they have enough resources being put behind them to actually do an effective job I'm going to turn it into the court Mr. Perkley feel free to jump in or not but that's kind of what some of the dad has shown us about and also go since number four so would this be a police cadet would this be a cadet program or are you proposing to grow your own no it's a cadet program a forward PD had a cadet program for a while it's not unusual I believe U.S. PD utilized the cadet program around symphony as a cadet program so it's something that was actually within Fort Worth that was funded by the city but they just beyonded that program so it's always just reinventing that cadet program and going into number four where I just added about the diversity and the specialized conditions and the first promotional level there's just not a lot of the pool to actually pool from there's not that many I don't have, I forget the numbers off the top of my head but I want to say there's only there's less than a hundred African-American detectives within the whole PD and there's roughly nineteen specialized divisions and some of those divisions go unfilled by African-Americans because the pool's not big enough but also a lot of it's a little bit more they're just in the promotions is that what you're struggling with both the Spanish some more because they have a bigger population fourteen percent of our PD I think is African-American about twenty percent is Hispanic are there any Asians or other I just think it's important for us to make sure that we notate all the numbers of each minority group we have all I think it's unfortunately when we talk about one race only we need to talk about all races I apologize that's not at all I have literally have to work down the ball the numbers the numbers are supported by the data because I think we need to show this council the mayor the diversity of how the future of the city is going to look like we're going to be a very diverse city not just Blacks and Hispanics but there's other groups that are here in fact I was walking in today and there was another Middle Eastern family walking in and they just started talking and asking questions about the patented gardens I was like why don't we work here but I answered but I started thinking about them we've got a huge population moving in here so we've got to think forward as well and I will I want to make sure I point to the south too as well the last five police academies that have come through the police academy they have been more diverse to reflect the city of Fort Worth population however you don't see if a group goes through the system it's going to basically, when I say the system through the police academy the field training process before you actually see them by themselves in the streets when we have the opportunity to review the diversity breakdown for the last five classes it's more in line with the numbers that we have in the city so I will say the PD has been intentional getting back to I want to say the last class of 2016 up to present of trying to be more diverse but it just takes longer before we see them at the just talking to the officers who are out recruiting who are just out of the field trying to get people in it seemed like they were just having a hard time getting people, period by Hispanic that want to be the police officer so it's not like they're not trying to mind my things they are trying one of the portion I'll hear that we have we did get to the municipal courts because of the martial service which they have some issues there some major issues I was telling most citizens their first encounter or only encounter with the city is I go to the park or the swimming pool I pay my water bill and I go to the municipal court that's most citizens that encounter with their city and just the attitude that's at the municipal court is horrendous from the judges that I have seen in there making fun of one gentleman's weight, unacceptable another judge talking to a prosecutor no decorum in the courtroom, court number four and I talked with the administrator when I was there taking care of the citation this was part two it was dismissed but when I told the judge who was there that she was ignorant of the law she said you're trying to get me to dismiss this ticket Mr. Session I know what you're trying to say no I'm trying to get you to do a continuous because the prosecutor who's supposed to be here is not here that's not my fault prosecutor asked me to come outside Mr. Session let me talk to you outside before we walk outside the bailiff gets the paperwork from the judge and we're as close as three the three of us and he tells the prosecutor this is a waste of time I said excuse me it's a waste of who's time your job? who's time is it a waste of time and they answered me out into the hallway I just happened to have Miss Ewing's phone number and I called her she came down and told me that they were making corrections from the previous complaint of sending people home because one particular bailiff didn't like how they were dressed they never got to make their announcement in court and she said baby you need to go home and learn how to dress here's our dress code those people had they had two appears warrants put out for them and she told me about that and I said well that's great I'm glad you're making some changes however this just happened and the prosecutor verified that the bailiff said it yes he did say that's unacceptable every citizen doesn't have Miss Ewing's phone number so you are adding with the court's strategy file oh yeah our meeting with the municipal services and the representatives on the 31st we'll add that on that strategy I just like to add one thing to the Specialized Unit's issue and I said this the other day and I was told that I'd misheard things but I don't mishear very often we were told why when we asked why would there be more minorities of these Specialized Units that they just don't want the job they don't want to work long hours they don't want to be on call 24 hours a day which did not make sense to me that needs to be addressed because when I asked the chief why he said well maybe it's our policies and I asked who sets the policy so if there are policy issues that need to be addressed in that we need to port that out to them because so one thing we've heard regarding the promotion that's the civil service that the chief has hasn't heard of that as well so as far as the policies as far as how they from my understanding how promotion they take the six top test scores to captain it's based on testing then at captain level I think there's assessment that goes with the testing so it's the testing plus the assessment and then at major deputy and commander major commander deputy chief are all appointed positions that the chief can appoint whenever he wants to do you have any comments well I mean our testing process especially for the beginning what you're talking about these officers have to be certified on their own for four years before they can take that initial test so I mean that's a requirement that is in our contract and each subsequent test after that there's a three year requirement in that year in rank to be able to take the next test so yes you are corrected as civil service it is basically a you give a list of study materials they go take the test as long as they don't have the internal affairs history or any issues that would prevent them from getting promoted they get promoted basically on the rank of college score to the test and I think a lot of what they don't want to add to is that we have had a good opposite to this because that's a lot of different officers and you know one thing that I could say that they made sense to me why some minority officers weren't taking the test because they can't work their part-time jobs a lot of officers say they rather have the opportunity to do their you know their shifts and maybe their part-time to make a couple extra hundred dollars and I'm not saying that it excuses why we don't have why there's not minorities promoted within but that was something that we heard about and that was captured in the minutes from the last meeting too so how do we get there? What's the recommendation on pay? I think it can be as simple as sending your officers encouraging minority officers to take the test and you know is there a pay problem? there's always there's always I think there's always going to be a pay problem, a pay issue involved but I always miss quote how my dad said can do, can be so if a person doesn't want to further their career or continue to be the police officer, there's nothing to do with that chief that's all the way down to be able to do that in person or is it not going to be enough incentives in place? I know that incentives would be a field training officer to come down to you know you can correct your problem maybe ten thousand dollars or additional it's ten percent more and you've taken on a lot more work so some wonder if it's actually worth going through the additional police academy training and taking on another officer for an additional maybe five thousand dollars for his access Charles I may be wrong but I think this possibility we're confusing a couple of different things one is just the promotion yes based on written but okay so taking your test now you're a sergeant right we've got sergeants in patrol yes we've got sergeants in SWAT we've got sergeants in homicide we're talking about we don't have any minorities in some of these specialized units regardless of their rank and I don't know what it's all at play with that but it's more than just failure to take a promotional test I think so if there's not the amount of spots there is from the specialized divisions there's not enough there's not enough minority officer I think to qualify for those positions is it enough for us as a task force to to the city council we think this is an important initiative to create diversity within these specialized units and you figure it out there you tell the chief to figure it out but it's just not acceptable to not have any african-americans in the homicide SWAT I think the expectation would be that this task force would work with the police department to figure out how to get it done I think we need to be specific and practical for the nation to be complete I don't think it's going to fly to you say you figure it out you figure it out for one thing that's going to make it easy to ignore I think that was a little flip but to say commit to a strategy by a certain how we're going to do this I would suggest that we commit to a certain number or a certain percent so X numbers be hired or coached and mentored into these positions by this date by the end of year one and a certain percentage of it I think we have to be real specific there will be no movement I think call out a number but we also need to make sure that they meet all the requirements they're not going to get permitted I don't think they'll get promoted but if you're saying to meet within a year that's not going to happen to that role but they have to prepare them to do that that's what I'm saying and I agree with you do we have any that are ready to be trained or do we have to train them before we can put them together they can even hire them in as new people they don't have to know what people like I think we give them a number and say this is our recommendation we want to see all of these special things diversified and inclusive here and we want to see it by this time we recommend that you get it done because this is where our problems come from they can't see themselves and the people there they're beaten up on I think we have to ask if we're going around the well to get the water I think we need to go to the well to get the water and in that sense I think maybe in terms of success we need to be with the BPA and hear from them specifically and what their opinion is what it is I don't tell you this you know I know they came to the last meet but it goes without being said that we've invited the BPA the Latino officers and the POA to come to multiple committee meetings and multiple e-mails have not been responded to we rather come together so it's not been for lack of effort lack of trying but I think that you can't have an effective conversation with the respective organization as a collective I think that the best way for us to get rid of data, rid of information was to sit down with them individually that was a wrap can you make a request to those associations almost I don't say mandatory but we're trying to get information to make progress and this is a holdup well I would say Chief Krause sent e-mails on behalf as well as trying to make it happen we can't force private organizations to to give them a try Chief, do you have any suggestions to help us to accomplish that? well I I got a comment first because we're talking about two different issues here one is a promotional track one is an actual filling specialized unit with a diverse group of people there are apples and oranges different away from each other so the promotional track is pretty well set yes we can encourage people to take the test if they meet the certain guidelines and criteria yes they can take the test however the other one I think is a little bit more important than we need to kind of address so historically about ten years ago in opening a homicide I guarantee you would have probably ten to fifteen detectives put in for that position today you do the same thing you have less than probably three to five that's historically across the department every unit doesn't matter what it is if you want to talk about SWAT SWAT historically ten years ago would have fifty, sixty people put in for positions that maybe we only had one or two today we have less than fifteen why is that? it's a generational deal it really is it doesn't matter the color it doesn't matter the race it doesn't matter it just comes across that generationally people like SWAT for example they really do work a lot of hours they do I mean they're on call 24 hours a day seven days a week there are only four people that can be off at any given time so I mean some people don't want to do that and it does restrict some of their part-time jobs if they do work part-time jobs I'm glad you brought that up because Chief Kraus let us know that it was a homicide position that came up and only two people applied for it and what we've also discussed in our individual committee is that you can't really quantify the data but social media has turned off a lot of people to want to be in-place officers I think that goes to the recruitment aspect of it as well and I think it's absolutely right we can work on getting to that first level of promotion but in order to get to specialize people just you're really committing yourself a lot more than what you are and you just want I don't think that we should still not try to have some type of recommendation in place even if it means just one minority in each division or something along those lines but it is I think it's generational exactly like you're saying one of the things that we have done and I don't know if Chief Kraus might have said this if I did I apologize if you've heard it we've actually created open houses kind of concept to let people come in to see what they're in store for they come to the unit we've invited a multitude of people to come through whenever we have openings I can't force somebody to go but I can invite them it's the same thing if I have the opening if they choose not to go in I can't put it for them because it's an internal paternal drive for somebody to want to be in that position so I mean I would be very cautious about trying to force people in positions they don't want to be in so just recently we had an opening for the narcotics sergeant position historically that's a very coveted position within our department four people put in four for us as supervisors or executive staff members to try and create a diverse pool whenever we don't have a diverse pool that actually is put in so we do our best with the people that we have and I can promise you at least from my level and above and below we do our darnedest to try and get the best applicants we can for those positions and we go out and we actually recruit for the diversity that they're lacking but we're also fighting against ourselves as well so you have a very great candidate that maybe African American maybe Hispanic, maybe Asian well other units are also buying for that same person and so whenever they take a test and they promote you guess what they're now at a different level and we're fighting for that same pool of applicants like everybody else and it's no different than when we're recruiting police officers and we're fighting for the same top candidates and so the pool gets drained very quickly Jennifer you had a question Yes so one of the questions that you're kind of highlighting that I asked last time when we had the representatives from the officers associations was around the actual jobs themselves and you're also speaking to that in some ways does the city of Fort Worth need to look at changing, redesigning jobs that all of you for example health care's changed journalism's changed it's not like it is it was when you first started I know that some of these fields police, fire, etc. are very structured but perhaps based on the generational forces the employment rates and everything that they are we're competing for talent and homegrown talent like you're saying Ty our recommendations that we look at redesigning jobs Fort Worth is leading the way policing in a different way police jobs look different so it's more appealing to younger generations that want that one like that just drawing it out there I don't know if my response is to capture what you're saying but I know we can redefine things but I think ultimately there's still T-Cole requirements that every police officer has to meet and that's the bare minimum I know there's different I wish that everyone could get all the information that we have of our committee but Chief Fitzgerald and the different type of training that they've implemented in the academy I think it's more relevant to today's issues it's just biased training different things of that nature but as far as how you make being a police officer I think if you will that's to their marketing department and I guess the lip-sync battles aren't working I find you to wrap up this one because we've already talked on this over 30 minutes just on this one category and we've not hit all the other committees yet so we may be here till 9 if all of them take a little over 30 minutes but does anybody have any other questions? I wonder what is it going to look like when we finish are we going to suggest that they re-evaluate I'm not sure where we're going without so next Monday when we meet I'm not really sure where we are we have to diversify the group so how do we get there? this particular that particular area or the house that effectively that recognition that you've been about and I think it's almost like I must be off the email because how do you kind of capture that strategy or make the effective recommendation because the part of it is we have that willing individuals that want to do it but also there's a need for it as well so trying to capture this kind of been a challenge I like the idea of creating something different and you're right and don't care if things have changed but what you have to know is that your community is changing as well so how do you structure something where people are pushing themselves in rather than you trying to pull it what kind of strategic plan can be put in place to change the way people see that I think that's what we have to do that's what we had to do in nursing and now there's their waiting list for nurses and what we talked about is what we're talking also about every race we're talking about gender as well that's what we want to do and we need to make sure that our remarks state that next on the list is Charles on economic development yes first of all I'd like to give thanks to staff to Shell and Barbara Stern especially for the excellent support they provided in this so you'll see here we have five broad categories of strategies job training, transportation hiring process incentives policy capacity building for minority owned businesses these relate directly to the three categories of disparities that were in our bailiwick which related to income wealth employment unemployment and into the number and size of minority businesses work these are the other large cities in the state of Texas so beneath these five strategies there are a host of detailed objectives or initiatives in job training we would be looking at working with our various partners ranging from workforce TCC our various school districts in preparation targeting job fairs a lot of our community discussion is about connecting or focusing on areas of the city which have higher unemployment which have higher minority populations to make sure those job fairs are reaching that population transportation is not can I ask you a question I'm sorry when you're talking about job training you're talking about job fairs are you talking also about because it could go in education like technical training so that will be under there as one of them you've had a comment made Terry who was on our committee was very resourceful her observation was forward ISD behind some of the other school districts in terms of career technological preparation so I think while that's not a per se a city of workforce responsibility I think we need to work together with our school district to complete that up in looking at the future for what careers are going to be in demand and trying to encourage kids to go that way on the second one on transportation that's not really dealing with the overall mobility needs of the population but really how you connect people who need jobs to where the jobs are so that may mean some special initiatives with the transportation authority that might mean working with major employers Chamber of Commerce perhaps to establish linkages to get people to a job site we know that there's an awful lot of job creation for example in the Alliance Corridor which is not adjacent to where our pockets of poverty are not at point far so there's a disconnect and this is not breaking news but we need to think about re-imagine how we can get people from one place to another job opportunities hiring process both our committee and housing talked a lot about the whole ban the box idea as a society we put so many barriers to people that we have a criminal record can't rent an apartment get a job this is just trying to say rather than immediately spring people out if we could voluntarily get people to adopt a ban the box idea on application forms maybe you get a little bit farther down the road where you can be evaluated on your merits in criminal history um for me and I've had a discussion on the same line if you follow football you know the NFL the Rooney rule which is on every head coaching they can see the team is required to interview at least one minority what if that were true in the city of Fort Worth with all executive positions that came open we can't we can't pass a lot but we could foster a culture that embraced that philosophy again this would be working with our corporate leaders chambers of commerce and so forth to adopt that kind of thing anyway that gets into the hiring process but we want to stop people from being screamed out discussion we've had is some people some employers have gone to a system where they don't really focus on the name again that's a way people can get screamed out but do it more anonymously until you get down to the final hiring decision so some ideas there incentives policy when the city does economic incentives, tax abatements or rebates to foster development structuring those incentives so that if you were locating your project in a high need area you can qualify for higher incentives if you're going into southeast Fort Worth have a higher degree of incentive provided than if you're going to the aforementioned alliance corps also in this incentivizing higher paying wages jobs that demand a higher wage that actually would lift people out of poverty so that's part of what we mean in the incentives policy the capacity building for minority owned businesses there's an exciting initiative that the staff was already pushing forward which is a mentor protege program we may have talked about this on here but that would be taking a successful company carrying them with a new perhaps minority business that would benefit from the experience of being a more established company I think that has a lot of promise also here would be reexamining re-emigrating the city's relationship with the Spanish chamber and the black chamber and how we can think those partnerships yield great benefits just a couple questions on the job training the Fort Worth ISD do they do high schools is that an idea they do can the transportation part they do college fairs they do they do they do one collective big job fair especially for the kids who are graduating or looking for someone to work I forgot what her name is but she's been doing it for years the kids have to go there but can the job fair run to the students some of the schools do that and on the transportation portion they come in y'all talk to the tech one thing I would suggest not in college in Austin you could come from far south Austin all the way up to the technology ground market buses express buses here they didn't stop on track to do that without crowding you want to work at Amazon you can catch a bus that won't stop until it hits them question on transportation too we were talking about not just those express buses but once you get to alliance how do you move people in that area what kind of circulators need to be in place to take people from the transit hub to some of these businesses we actually had a business come to city council that spoke and they actually pick up people and take them to work because the transportation was an issue they go free ride to your job and there's a part right over there in the alliance area that the team put together there's been a lot of work on that but not enough exactly anything else I'm just curious to some of those people that need those services that do they understand because I think a lot of times when people have transportation it's because the forward isn't that great to meet such a manager city is that do people know that once they catch these buses you get them to the side of town that there are a lot of avenues to get them directly to those places or when you're doing a good job where is the city doing a good job you don't have to worry about getting away on the side of town once you do I don't know if this is exactly what you're saying but we have a lot of customers who will get to one spot and then they'll take Uber somewhere else because the bus or whatever ride they were like say they were counting on a neighbor is that what you were saying this is a city telling people right you can get this job at amazon but we gotta have an express bus or something to go from south southern sector to the northern sector but is amazon providing shuttle service to their campus from the hub and are we asking amazon type businesses hey you can get your employees because they're always hiring but you gotta get them from here to there bell helicopter did it many years and it's the amazon and the ups that have the largest number of a pool of people coming at the same time they're the ones who are chipping in but what you just said is the city asking that that's actually I think embedded in this we need to have more of those discussions when they are bringing companies in and is the city communicating that to people perspective people looking for a job is the city telling hey job fair if you want to work at amazon we can get you there and they will pick you up you don't need a car I mean that's I mean we do that I mean we let them know when there's transportation to a company or not but again there's just there's very little individuals that are doing it yeah so not every company is doing it there's limited individuals sometimes when you're up there you still two miles away from where you gotta go and that's what she was saying that they would call uber or something to pick them up and drop them off there's still a lot to do from the first model to the last model thank you captain would you with a condition I just saw my neighbor take it real well but that's not a good thing but I don't know what the city tells them I mean I know it is someone responsible for it so it's your committee have you guys entertained the idea that hey we need to do more better better way to let the potential applicants know because I can want to work in Amazon and when I look at it's in that corner I said there's no way I could get there I turned the page but that if I'm looking at this simultaneously if I'm looking at hey there are some of these jobs whoever they be that will provide additional transportation once I get to this side I think you're talking about PR and outreach yes sir thank you bridge to the bridge actually that's one of the things transportation committee discusses that the city needs to be more involved in PR and outreach to more transportation thank you anything else for Charles Bob so for education we're very grateful to have Gilbert and Sarah join our committee and we are also incredibly grateful for Dr. Robinson and my support it's been valuable we have three strategies that we are working towards fulfilling and being able to present Dr. Massage who has left for another opportunity working on really formulating the early childhood education strategy and then something that we've talked about at length that she has agreed that she will still articulate and get in writing the strategies and the challenges etc but we feel strongly that the investment into early childhood education and giving those students the best possible opportunity to be ready to learn when they get into kindergarten is the best investment that we as a community can make so that they are on the right path and that involves certainly providing opportunities for the parents to become that child's best educator and inspiring them to find value in education it also is about making sure that there are opportunities in the existing pre-K programs within community schools or transportation to those schools that do have opportunity and also opportunities for those educators to continue to grow as educators to have opportunities to grow both economically and educationally so that they have incentives to continue to stay in early childhood education we're meeting tomorrow and hopefully we'll work on removing that a little farther forward our true road who unfortunately just left really was our lead on our second strategy was the career and college career readiness and we spent a good amount of time at our last committee meeting the disparities that this really addresses is the high school dropout the lack of preparedness for college and career and the lack of civil involvement and this strategy involves high quality civic engagement and it really leans on the research that talks about how civic engagement generates positive outcomes both academically civically and ultimately results in better economic employment opportunities for the participants which obviously helps elevate the community so actions that would support this particular strategy for pre-K it would be investing in out of school time learning summer type opportunities all of these are leveraging many existing programs that already exist for higher education are really following the models of the GO centers for the ISD and also the TCC use and then joint strategic actions for pre-K higher education community organizations involve engagement with intercultural networks and other civic organizations to assess both learning opportunities and grow the impact that would engage TCC would be a primary partner within that that's something they're doing a lot of it would also be able to involve a lot of businesses and civic organizations to work on as well the third strategy can I go back to the second strategy for a second well I personally think college is important it's definitely not the only path towards making a decent living I think someone who goes into plumbing is more likely to do better than someone who's going to study philosophy and definitely not in the same amount of debt are you looking at are you suggesting once again this connection with the economic and technical schools I don't think business society one respect enough someone who's going to be a plumber or age back or anything like that we have a tendency just to say someone went to college and that's that maybe it's important that we really try and put emphasis on there not only in the schools but in the city is saying you know I just think we're not we're doing a disservice to our students if we're only pushing college college class we had a big conversation about meeting with major employers and trying to understand the skill sets that they are going to need both today and tomorrow and making sure that training for those trades are a big part of it the third one is to leverage somewhat what the data dashboard on reading for the work provides as far as an online education mainstream or resource there are a lot of this goes back to the last conversation about marketing and outreach there are a lot of great things available to folks in the community but many of them don't know and so a lot of it it's going to be a combined effort I think between both having an online resource center where folks can find that information but we've also talked about the idea of having a community liaisons or advocates within the various communities that could do outreach that could work from these go centers or from community centers and make sure people knew the available resources and opportunities that were available and this is what we're going to talk primarily I think at our meeting tomorrow but I don't know if I have something to add Any questions at all? Help I'm going to have to leave at right at 6.30 but I'm going to go ahead and get started and I'm going to ask Mary to kind of follow up because I was not able to make our last meeting because that's in the certain general rules here and Rezone's office was moving around like a little scared or whatever but for the health community education outreach it sounds like we are tackling some of the same issues as some of the other committees when it talks about having the information having the services available to the community and the community not knowing about it so that education outreach was something really big the active lifestyle some of the strategies under that we talked about the safe streets the stray dogs just the whole parks and all of that the next one is healthy boos having access we talked about the booth deserts and the rainy market and some of those other strategies that we already have a place that something can also implement and then again some of those the crossover with the transportation just having access to the provider so that is what those are four that we have so far and I'll let Miriam go ahead and fill in a little more detail on the strategies so we looked at the Tarrant County behavioral risk factor surveillance that was done in 2015 to find out statistically what were our disparities so we looked at those we looked at those by zip codes and so then we worked with Tarrant County and worked out what are the top five that were prevalent in health and put those strategies and that's how we came up with those areas that will so some of them are high blood pressure obesity, diabetes hyperventilality, cognitive decline and all of that so we looked at all of it and from those top five and came up with the social security tell us that we put there they had to stress those issues through the disparities so we have the statistics and some more details on what all of it those are kind of how we pull up some of those others we have recommendations where they fell into the activity to address those issues so what are you taking probably to the right hand those four those active I mean under access for instance we network and JPS or so we're going to make recommendations there to get people access to care so we've talked about one of the issues is like the community centers they're not being utilized they have health care classes there so we're using that and also maybe community health workers to be so we're using that as well so you're using some of those services that are already in the city that are not being utilized that can provide classes as well in those series that was just even going through the intake process and getting minimal staff to do that so when you're trying to give an appointment how long it really takes because you just have not enough staff to go to that whole intake process to get everybody really moving so you can have access you can get an appointment but you're important by not being born to six weeks or however long and then you end up doing what going to the emergency room or something happen so so we talked about community health workers places strategically in some of those those centers to to help go through that process for them in a discussion about federally funded clinics remind me I think we did talk about them but we a part of a strategy as centers that's where you can go and sign up and we bring them home something else on the food bar as you said mentioned about the community centers I think the city do a much better job they have the summer day camp going on you have to pay to go to that but at the doc session center and I'm sure of the others too you don't have to be a part of that your child can go down there and they will feed them lunch they can leave they can come back and they will give them a snack I don't think they're communicating the city is communicating that right now because a lot of food goes to waste so we go hunt for kids right here in groups hey let's go to the center even if you didn't pay stop that's what we addressed having programs like that but the community not knowing they're available it's led to thinking that I don't have a membership at this doc sessions community center so I can't even go so again as it's not being communicated it goes back to the outreach and the PR to say guess what you don't have to be a part if you just are hungry come during these times to get something even you don't have to participate in these activities we know it's there we know the services are there it's not being communicated that's the strategy that we're going to address we do it at doc session we made some pliers and put on people's house you can come just show up you're between this age and this age come your children can be fed just to tack on that because we did talk a lot about this strategy especially in this committee but we also talked about utilizing neighborhood and community leaders to give that information after we talked about how and just to be clear I have seen a lot of that summer food program based on what it does but it's in the channels like emails and online so one of the strategies that fall under in that educational outreach is actually having the community engagement office work with specific neighborhood association community leaders we talked about how each neighborhood is kind of unique and different marketing channels work we've passed out pliers last day of school adversity parents here you go you can come and eat well I'm actually almost paying back on what you're saying Roxanne almost every neighborhood needs all the channels so I'm a small neighborhood and whatever we're doing it's yard time, it's door to door it's suppliers, it's emails, it's next door it's our Facebook it's everything which is exhausting for the neighborhood leaders because we're volunteers and doing this in addition to other things so that's I think one of the challenges with all of the things I'm hearing so far is that awareness how do you cut through the clutter because again some people they'll tell us I didn't get my email I didn't get my flyer this month or what have you if you don't think well you can maybe do one one month through the other and the next month they're looking for their particular favorite communication item I'd like to see something that challenges the city to do some type of incentive plan to get grocery stores these food deserts and it comes under half the problem even some mom and dad shops for groceries policy and relaxing some of those barriers to get in to be able to do fresh food and vegetables so they can be in the neighborhoods so we just got some of those in an area structure and Usos was very supportive and was a leader in this food cart yes so they did relax some of those so we talked about we're not going to start a side business we're going to give us a plus in recursion we're going to start a home but anyway yes we talked about that the ownership it falls into development we talked about having that the situation where the grocery store forced to close down and it was because of that you know so how do we encourage economic development how do we encourage grocery stores to come in some of these zip codes when that is a determinant anything else on health okay housing I apologize looking at some more items thanks to our Catherine so the disparities that we're addressing is the fact that racial segregation in housing has increased in four since 2010 45% of African American households in other words they pay over 30% of their income for housing compared to 33% of all households which is ran around percentage for supposed to be paying Hispanics comprised 15% of the households that are living in substandard housing more overcrowded so one of the strategies that you see on your sheet that we're talking about is affordable housing incentives policy because one of the things that we're seeing as we talk is the market forces are such that the developers, the builders, et cetera don't have to there's not a demand so to speak there's plenty of demand for 200,000, 300,000 and up and so how do we incentivize so we're talking about strategies and policies that would promote fair housing even more for the minority populations that are disproportionately low income looking at populations, a wide variety of populations that need persons with disabilities senior citizens homeless or formerly homeless with housing solutions clients for children, et cetera and we're saying that from so far what we're looking at is that it wouldn't have a direct or immediate budgetary impact because we'd be targeting existing incentive activities to contribute to addressing these disparities currently caused by our mobile housing market to the next recommendation by our assistance so we have one which many of you may or may not know again an awareness challenge but again very competitive market that we're in right now so providing additional assistance in or removing administrative and procedural barriers to home ownership for low income families of color again promoting fair housing by increasing the opportunities for folks to be home or buyers which has been very, very challenging even for folks of means to try to get housing in certain areas and whatnot so many of you have already seen all the different reports and news articles about how competitive or what the Tarrant County as a whole is what the going rate is just over $5,000 a month is a market rate for two-bedroom one-bedroom apartments so when you think back to some of what your apartment days what that looks like it translates to in today's dollars and with today's dollars it's a challenge lastly again is a common theme I think for all of our committee support this evening it's talking about the awareness of what the actual resources are that are available so again more neighborhood based workshops to help increase the capacity as we said in my earlier disparities we've gone backwards in the last eight years not forwards again around how residents improve their own neighborhoods which I think will also help balance some of those concerns a lot of neighborhoods are having around gentrification so instead of the gentrification happening to neighborhoods happening with neighborhoods when I say that it means workshop I attended earlier this year when you involve the neighborhoods that are being redeveloped revitalized then they're able to stay in those areas they're able to benefit from the new amenities and things that are being brought to their neighborhoods and communities and in some sense being rewarded for sticking it out for being in those neighborhoods that were less desirable that are now more so desirable helping having the city help with information and programs around home repair counseling financial literacy co-compliance again I know some of these things are things that are already being done but how do you amp it up how do you get it targeted to the communities that need them so that we can turn that number around particularly in the central city areas that citizens are aware of all the housing related programs that are available to support a better quality of life for our communities I'm a little concerned about a couple of things Jennifer that is that if you look at the paper this morning they were talking about the size of houses that are being built I know that in the stop six area in particular I'm going for the higher end houses I talked to Gina Evans about it the other day was there any discussion at all about building smaller houses so people can get out of the pockets and have more independence is there's something about tiny houses I don't buy the tiny house thing but you could build a thousand square foot at fifty dollars maybe a square foot building you got a fifty thousand dollar building and if it's a thousand square feet you can put somebody in that you know it's a whole different lifestyle once you get out of those pockets any discussion about tiny houses or smaller houses well tiny houses not directly as it relates to this committee I've been involved in other side conversations we've discussed them around them and what we've told some of the community groups or individuals that are interested in that is bring something forward bring a good project well thought project forward to most likely be the zoning commission and or depending on how it's structured city planning commission rather than the city trying to come up with policy regulation zoning ordinances that would meet that bring good projects that we can evaluate but then those various bodies can make decisions on one of the things to your point I think that we're seeing more and more as people coming back to urban living um there is some demand I think for smaller homes that's also part of why you see some older neighborhoods that do have smaller homes either be revitalized or folks moving back into I know my neighborhood for example most of the houses were built they were about sixteen hundred square feet or smaller you know they were still bigger and smaller areas and now the average size has gone up but a lot of people are starting to want that closeness want that personally and also not spend so much time on hard work not spend so much time cleaning your own utilities or less all those things so again then we need to go into our instead of policy I think because right now the market forces aren't supporting it enough you have pockets so maybe in your south side there's some talk around that um you see that with the um auxiliary whether it's the mother-in-law home type suites or second the garage apartment type things but we don't have a bigger area that because then still you tend to the developers you know we're looking to maximize their their margin so um that's what we have to push for some of that as well because just as I think we need diversity when it comes to representation we need diversity of jobs we need diversity of education opportunities we need diversity of housing opportunities that not everybody wants to live in a three dozen square foot home John talked about some of the seeing and communicating which areas of netism empowerment zone some of the fees that are for that are before the old things like that we didn't get into that specific with our discussions but we have in some of our earlier meetings you know the overlay of what's available here here and here and how do you bring those different resources together seniors are worried about right at the corner there's 63 town homes although we 10 that are 200,000 the other 53 will be 400,000 but they're worried about well my taxes and things like that so we're telling hey the city communicating that if you make certain improvements even if you're not 65 you can raise your taxes for 10 years that type of information goes that's an incentive to make your house nicer and you can stop your tax rate for 10 years regardless of the year I think that's what I was saying is those that want to stay in that area they're in and benefit to be able to have that opportunity so just like know what's out there to be able to stay put and not be forced out just one quick note on that Miss Allen Gregg did a good job got some of the development in her area in this revitalization and all that's real good it's real fine but she really fought hard for people in her district but some of these houses were just going to be too expensive and I just in stock 6 right now is going to go on revitalization things and it's in the days I don't want to force all of those people out with homes that are just going to be too expensive to make sure that I recognize that there's some urgency that it has to be in the next house you see that in the liquid addition that's probably a test case Mike was big and said that Arthur and the paper this newspaper showed that they are putting small homes with large homes and new developments they're going to be a mixed use of income and houses thought that was a good idea Matt Pleasant in Cleveland, Ohio they had done that they took a distressed area that had been burnt down from the riots and revitalized that when we saw in the early 2000s it was a bank opening that was the first bank since the 1960s being opened in that area but it had mixed use housing from low income to mid to high income all working together that's what we need to see more for based on not only the current workforce but in the future workers and you're bringing something forward you're bringing something forward a recommendation yes I think that will be part of our and so we're we're not scheduled to meet just yet Katie's been traveling so I know what we're buying from our deadline so we're going to get it on the books any questions transportation we are meeting this Thursday but you'll notice her strategies her street improvements we are looking at one of the things I think we're going to be looking at because we'll put words in everybody's mouth Judy and Jennifer because I had my first transportation meeting with the group about a month ago and we've got a strategy of coming up to August 3rd but talking about street improvements that have been passed and what improvements that were approved in those bond package and how the city is going to prioritize that because if we improve our streets with sidewalks and lighting in our minority communities that will help our communities strive a little bit more so we've got to take a look at that multimodal transportation because on here our disparities talked about automobile ownership transit ridership transit is changing one of the things that we need to stop is just bus service we've got to start looking at multimodal service and look at a transit system not just a bus system because we still have to get people from the first mile to the last mile we can take a bus and take people to Alliance but then again once we drop them off we still have to get them to their place of work so we've got to start looking at things as a whole vision for transportation we've got something that we'll be talking about in our transportation committee there but we also have to look at funding good, bad or different Trinity Metro only gets a half cent sale tax when you look at what DARK has done in Dallas they get paid one cent for 12 municipalities the Trinity Metro only gets it from City of Fort Worth Northwoods and Hills used to be original Hills I don't think they do that anymore of where their funding is coming from so we will be asking maybe to look at what Terry County can contribute and other municipalities because what we're seeing now here in City of Fort Worth will start happening other municipalities or suburbs because I remember when I was president of the chamber Northeast Fort Worth called me because of education the minorities that were going in Hershey was Bedford Northridge and Hills and so forth we've got to work with them to get them up to par as far as their education and getting them to come out and be active community individuals with the ISD that growth in those areas are growing too the minorities, the blacks, the Hispanics, the Asians and Muslims and so forth so we've got to look at this as a Terry County solution when we look at transit because we've got to put everybody wherever they can be whether it's at South East Fort Worth it's West Fort Worth we've got to give them jobs that's number one but we also, one of the things that we've got to look at is transportation transportation has changed a lot so when you look at workforce it's not going to just be a bus driver technology will change the way transportation is going to be in the next five, ten years and we've got to make sure that we have the skill of workforce to support that whatever those mechanisms are going to be whether they're going to be autonomous vehicles for safety, you know we have a lot of people riding bikes especially in the urban inner cities areas but we also have to make sure one of the things that we've found out is the crashes that are taking place in various bike crashes you know we've got to start looking at are these places lit are they properly marked for bikes do they have sign walks do they have a lane directly or managed lanes for bikes so that there's not as many crash victims because apparently there was 86% of fatal bike crashes and we need to stop that for sure our meeting is going to be this Thursday so we'll start diving more and more into the recommendations that we're going to be looking at to recommend but we are very mindful of our timeline and we've worked from August 3rd backwards so as stated a minute ago our first one is going to be this Thursday Judy, Jennifer do you have anything to add I think you covered the main thing like you said around the bond especially the street improvements that fare grade on the street conditions except what happens when they get into port how long do they stay for what other things happen around them any discussion about the employers taking ownership in some of this you get them out to aligns and then now what I know that even alliance is talking about that as well getting the employers to make that well night out early on we have plotted the Terran County College's efforts as far as what they're doing with the students now I think they think it's already in effect basically they can use their badge their ID, C90 and use the training metro to go I think in a transportation you know Fort Worth missed the boat a long time ago and Dallas was creating DART again you got to stop and take half a cent versus a cent no we missed the boat when DART was created Fort Worth was like this and look in Terran County look where DART is today by default I've been talking to the federal government because I remember and I think it may be some hesitation because I don't remember but I've read that when DFW airport was created Fort Worth had just built an airfield brand new and it ended up closing within 10 years because they built DFW well that was a federal government saying okay stop this is a big area we're going to do one airport you all talk to the city of talking in Terran County talking to the federal government about mass transportation this entire area how do we connect with DART that's my well right now you have the text rail that does connect to DART DART and treaty metro run that to go from you know downtown Fort Worth all the way up to Dallas so that there's also another all the big towns well that's treaty metro the text rail project will go out to DFW airport and then they can connect from there also to DART but there is Fort Worth is behind in transportation we are very behind in it but again it goes back to money and yes there's funding out there but you also have to look at every city, major city in this US is going after that funding and we've got to come up together and see how we're going to get not only our local but our state and our federal officials to start working to look for funding mechanisms and it may not always be government it could be private money that's going to come into help well government's private and government money so Kate Granger would be a good place to start because that project around the river looked really really nice and that was envisioned by her and we want this there has been a committee that's been put together to start looking at transit not only in Fort Worth but throughout Tarrant County start looking at that because they understand their mind specifically are you recommending or do you think you'll recommend how you raise that half cent to one cent sales tax we can make some recommendations but it's going to have again we haven't discussed that yeah okay do you think you will I think we'll find whatever recommendations that we can that can be supportive but again it's going to go back to the different municipalities to be able to give that I'm talking about Fort Worth well there is some ways but I don't want to mention other ways into life what is made again on Thursday we're going to talk on Thursday I think we can consider talking about whether or not you take part of the money from crime and put it in transportation it's going to be reallocated to get there right this is a very timely discussion Miss Navajar has not disclosed that she is actually involved in multiple committees dealing with these issues including the Chamber Transportation Committee and a special group that's going to be overseeing an update on the transit master plan and the trying to find the right way to phrase it the politics are heavy there are 100 reasons why nothing will work but it will take bold moves and leadership by groups like this task force to move this discussion forward and so I can tell you that if this task force were to take a firm position that makes sense that's feasible that it will be heard and it will make an impact I think we should give when we do our final recommendation that we all agree upon we should give a pair of Nike tennis shoes to every city council because their model is just stupid it's hot anyway we will have more at the next little group to talk about as stated we were meeting this Thursday and that is something that we're going to be doing is looking out of the box and looking at what other communities are doing because there's a lot of best practices out there in the US that have created the multi-modal systems that we need and Charles what's your report on governance just thought I'd ask I didn't want you to be left out Michelle next is discussion on arrangements of open house meetings so once the recommendations are put together we want to do another public outreach to residents so that they can see the recommendations and they can provide their feedback so it was suggested we talked about it in our co-chairs meeting about doing kind of an open house format and so what would happen is people would come in we would have a table for each of the committees that would be staffed by committee members and staff and people would get a copy of the recommendations and then they would be able to come and ask questions of people at the tables and provide their comments we would also have an overview of what the task force has done so far in the form of a video and a short presentation and we're looking at having them in the evenings from 6 to 8 I'll pass around we have five scheduled so far our original thought was to do four the co-chair suggested that we add a fifth one in a diamond hill on the near north side so I've got that one added I just got the date confirmed which is October 8 for that one if you want to write that in when I mapped them I noticed that there was a there wasn't anything on the kind of far east side so I have down here as a possible sixth the east regional library we had a really good turnout when we've done community conversations there probably our largest group I think we had almost 80 people when we did the conversation there so I thought that might be a good location to hit that east side so we tried to spread them out geographically we have a mix of churches city facilities and if anybody has any comments or suggestions I'd be happy to I'd just like to see the media on the east side when I'm when I'm at it I need the east side media one of the things I would say I know you probably cannot make every one of these meetings but as many of them that you can make that would be great to be able to be there at the table to talk about and answer any questions and I'll send out meeting invites to all of these so that you can get them on your calendar and as you will see we meet again on August 20th and that's when we will be presenting our draft recommendations to the first task force so I'm sure that evening we won't have a long meeting so be prepared so that we can make sure that we answer any and all concerns questions and so forth because we want to make sure that we dot our eyes across our teeth before we go out to the toilet