 Right, you know on the increasing complexity and also increasing opportunities for leaders to make an impact to human to mankind, right? Two sides of the same coin, right? What is something that we we might be fearful of a path? Oh, and on the opposite end, what are the some people hopeful about? The other problem to do you you've you've you've taken into some very grand themes But let's come more basic very often leadership is about making a decision, right? And it's making a decision in in it's making a decision with limited knowledge in difficult circumstances when time is against you That is the starting point for a leadership We can all have grand decisions grand issues about leadership on same-sex issues or gender equality or human rights or slave labor or human trafficking That's one bit, but it's also about corruption. It's about transparency. It's about instilling moral values in people It's about Motivating people to do the right thing all these are so whenever you talk about leadership as I know Icliffe does with such magnificent work There are those differences between the motivational side versus the ethical side versus the commercial side And at any given time you as a CEO are going backwards and forwards between all three What are you hopeful for for when you see leadership in the 21st century? Oh, you assume I'm hopeful Let's give a hopeful angle. You already give up sort of you know the opposite of hopeful angle. No, you say that no, no, you're you're you're You're falling into the same trap We're with respect. Yeah, please you're falling into the trap That says if I'm not saying everything's rosy Then it must be bad. Okay You want motivational Okay, and I'm saying motivational is fine, but motivational falls at the first whiff of grape shot All right Because you have to you can do the motivational stuff with as a leader, but you've got to have something there you've got to have Blackbone and stomach and courage and things that are going to stand you in good stead against difficult times and decisions Telling everybody you're really good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we can do it. Yeah. Yeah, let's go Go go now. We're gonna get you so far Telling everybody this is gonna be really difficult. This is gonna be really half tough, but I believe that We know where we're going and this is what we need to do. So it's something worth fighting for. Oh, of course it is You have to you have you have to instill this in people Well, that's motivational enough for me. Thank you very much. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thanks very much