 We will promote you to a panelist so you can present as soon as that item is called on the agenda. So we have our chat disabled, but I am wanting to respond to you have your hand up and that is what our procedures are will promote you as soon as the item is called. Thank you. Okay, we're officially late. All right. I lean are we waiting on any other members before joining or before. Just, just a member. Okay. You have a quorum. So you can go ahead and call the meeting to order. Okay. We'll do. All right. Good afternoon, everyone calling the meeting to order. Welcome to the March 7 art and public places committee regular meeting. First off, little housekeeping here pursuant to government code section 54953 E and the recommendation of the health officer of the county of Sonoma art and public places committee members will be participating in the meeting via zoom webinar. At this point will I lean our recording secretary please let our public know how to participate in today's meeting. Certainly, members of the public wishing to speak during item three public comment or during any of the scheduled items will be able to do so by utilizing the race can feature, or if calling in by pressing star nine on their phone. They will then be given the ability to address the committee. Thank you. Thank you. All right, at this time, let's take roll call. Chief. Present. Chair, Jones Carter. Here. Number founder. Is it. Number point is. As in. Number esterian. Is it. Present. Present. Present. Sorry. I lean. Bob. Bob on the call yet so my goodness. Thank you. Please allow me to correct that. The record reflect that all members with the exception of members sayers are present. when any person may address matters not listed on this agenda, but which are within the subject matter of the jurisdiction. The public may comment on agenda items when the item is called. Each speaker is allowed three minutes. Recording secretary, do we have any public comments for general items? We have no raise hands at this time nor do we have any voicemail or email comments for this meeting. Okay. Moving right along, we'll move to item four, approval of minutes. Item 4.1, we have approval of minutes for the January 10th, 2022 special meeting. May I get a motion to approve the meeting minutes? As read. I just have a question before we do that, because when I read through the minutes, I know this was where it said that the motion failed, but that happened after the meeting, so that was confusing to me. So the way that we address that was by providing an explanation of why it failed. And in there, I don't know if there's some additional wording you would like added. Eileen, maybe I wasn't correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that we put it that way with consultation from the clerk's office, and that's what they recommended. We did. Okay. So upon direction from the city clerk's office, we were directed to put the actual decision or what the ultimate outcome was to be reflected in the minute, in the public record. But again, what Eileen is asking, I suppose, is there any further explanation that you feel would better reflect what happened, and that's something that we can add? I guess it doesn't matter. It just didn't reflect what really happened, so that was my only question. Yeah, understood. It was an as the whole situation was kind of an unprecedented question mark for most folks to tackle. So I believe that what the direction was was to include that language to make it clear that ultimately the public record reflects that the motion did not pass. Okay. I have a question about that though. I sort of agree with Melanie that it seems like it would be good to somewhere record what happened with the process just for future reference, if it would be informative. So could it be listed as a footnote or in parentheses, or perhaps in the minutes of today's meeting to reflect that we acknowledge that there was a procedural correction that happened and just somewhere to record that process? I think it would be useful. Eileen, is that something that we could again run by the Corks office to see if we could add a line. So what we would essentially nod for these minutes at this time, we could run by an addition to the wording and then bring them back to the committee for approval at the next meeting. Yes, I will do that. I will ask the Corks how we can include that. Thank you. Great. Thank you for clarifying that we can make that amendment in today's process. All right. So the January 10, 2022 special meeting minutes will return at the next Art and Public Places meeting. We do still have the approval of minutes for the February 22, 2002, sorry, 2022 special meeting. Can I get a motion to approve minutes and then we can have discussion? I would like to make a motion to approve the minutes from February. It's like 20, it's probably 22nd 2022 for approved as submitted. All right, second. Thanks, Melanie. All right. Are there any additions, questions, concerns regarding these special meeting minutes? Seeing none, I would like to take a roll vote or a roll call vote. Thank you. Dr. Kiefer? Aye. Vice-Chair Jones-Carter? Aye. Member Baumgartner? Member Pointes? Aye. Member Naconson? Aye. Member Esterian? Aye. Let the record reflect that all members present have voted in the affirmative and meeting minutes for February 22nd have been approved as submitted. Great. Thank you, everyone. All right. Moving on to item five on the agenda, scheduled items. Agenda item 5.1 is the Santa Rosa Junior College Earth Day street mural. Santa Rosa Junior College representatives will present a temporary community art project proposed for Elliott Avenue. The Transportation and Public Works Department has approved this location for temporary street art with conditions for cleanup and removal. This time I will hand over the meeting to our presenter. Hi, we promoted Genevieve Portone and Alexa Forester and please let us know if you'd like any of your other team members promoted to help you present and our recording secretary will share your presentation as soon as you're ready for that. Oh, sorry. Here it comes. No, that's okay. I thought maybe they could introduce themselves. You know what? Let me go ahead and... We're ready. We're ready. I do have a couple of students. I know Andres is here. If you see Andres, what is Andres's last name? That's okay. We see him on there. Okay. And I don't know if there's a Xavier also on the call? Not. I do not see Xavier. Okay. Okay. So Andres is our Vice President of Sustainability. I'll let him introduce himself. I'll go and then maybe Alexa and then Andres. So good afternoon. Thank you so much for the time on your agenda today. Really excited to be interfacing with our city art leaders. My name is Dr. Genevieve Portone and I'm the Director of Student Life and Engagement at Santa Rosa Junior College. I've been involved in sustainability and social justice for over 25 years and it's a great pleasure to help connect our community with our college and the special sauce in between is always the students and the youth, which is the future for all. And with that, I'll pass it over to Alexa, Dr. Forrester. Hi everybody. I'm Alexa Forrester. I teach philosophy at the junior college, including environmental philosophy. And in the process of doing that for the last 15 years, I've become very engaged in projects to try to help engage our students and county in general in taking the climate crisis seriously and giving them an optimistic vision for how we can work together to make a resilience in my county. So that's what's inspiring my participation in this project. And I will hand it over to Andres if he's ready to introduce himself. Hello, everyone. So my name is Andres. I am the President of Sustainability and the Student Government at SRJC. I am also the President of the Sustainability Club. So I have been working on different projects at the junior college. My major is ecology and just super excited to work with environment and hopefully have a better future for future generations. Thank you, Andres. I don't know if you're all aware, but the intergovernmental panel on climate change just came out with a new report really demonstrating how climate change and social equity are just in inextricably lean and that the lower status and the less power or wealth you have, the more vulnerable you are to climate change. So we're really looking forward to bringing together movements of all different kinds to help paint a livable future for all at Santa Rosa Junior College's Elliott Ave which intersects our campus and is also slated to be closed for a pilot closure project to increase pedestrian safety. And we've already gotten that approved through CEQA and I included that CEQA approval in the document but we're waiting for the students to get back on campus. We've been closed for the past two years. So we've done a lot of work in the background and have really tried to dot all of our i's and cross all the t's and we're looking to this committee to see what i's we've missed, what t's we've missed and to get your full support for the project. I'm not sure what kind of projects you are used to approving. I assume this one's maybe a little bit different because it's on the street. I know that can be unusual but these street murals have taken root across the nation particularly with the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement but really you know movement art in general has as Alexa or Dr. Forrester said really become a beacon of hope and a way of speaking everyone's language art you know it crosses languages, it crosses perspectives and this mural in particular is going to allow everyone to bring their diverse perspective and view on what a livable future for all looks like. So you have in front of you our proposal. We have developed and approved traffic control plans for Elliott. We're proposing sort of phase one and phase two because we're not looking forward to turning people away should we outgrow the existing footprint. So we have one demonstrate or one sketch that takes us to Albany and then the extension takes us down past Cundi Hall to Planetarium Way which is a parking lot basically a parking lot there. There's still more root all the way down to Armory and each one of those sketches has the you know the dimensions of the space and scroll down. So we've already secured all of the necessary funding we just got the last $1,500 approved from our student government thank you on the days and we literally just left that approval to come here and hopefully we'll just keep the momentum going and we have included street cleaning services as part of our proposal we are seeking to get those donated and I'll be working on that over the next couple months but we know exactly what it's going to take to clean the mural prior to the first rains coming. The theme is a livable future for all. I was wondering if Dr. Forester wanted to speak to the theme. Yeah thanks Genevieve. So we're proposing this large temporary mural as a way to do in microcosm what we need to do as a society which is bring all perspectives to the table to dream a different course for us all and create a society that's genuinely sustainable and equitable for everybody so a society in which everybody can thrive and of course that requires us to care for our shared home the planet earth upon which all of our prosperity depends but it also requires us to look at the systems that have threatened that home and that have also historically led to much injustice and inequality so we're hoping to bring to the table everybody everybody because everybody has a stake in the future of this county to create a mural in which all of those perspectives are represented so the way that we're doing this is with the help of the climate justice street mural project which is a group of folks out of the Bay Area that are helping consult on this and who have used this model elsewhere throughout the Bay Area and all of California the general idea is that there are 12 foot circles throughout the mural and different student clubs academic departments and community organizations can reserve one of those circles and use that circle to design their own vision of a livable future or the way that their group is fighting for a livable future so that might look different if it's a if it's the teacher's union that's painting a circle versus if it's black student union painting the circle right they might have slightly different perspectives but then they're all threaded together against a backdrop of clay paint with a Native American basket weave pattern that was designed by a native of this area and and that way we're all working together and weaving all of those pieces together into one vision in addition to the 12 foot circles that will be designed and painted by non-professional artists we have recruited the support of the monarch project and raise as collective to do two slightly larger so 24 foot circles in the mural to provide anchor images and really sort of up the up the game and the community involvement so that is our vision and how the meaning and the the nuts and bolts of how it gets done yeah if you could go to the next page so Dr. Forster and I participated in many of these street murals in the Bay Area and we can attest that this is a well oiled machine as you see in the list of partners and artists David Solnit and Gemma Cerro they have a street mural manual and they've thought this through every little detail and they've done it in multiple different spaces with a variety of different types of partners and sort of themes they've done bigger and smaller single murals but the the image that you see on your screen now this is sort of the goal for us each one of the circles are painted by individuals as Alexa said non-professional artists that are really just speaking their perspective on what's required for a livable future and then we will have some words woven throughout the mural for for all in different languages like para todo para sa hat and that will be the words that will kind of tie it all together and bring it into very visually thematic space and tie to our theme a livable future for all the circles as Alexa said are about 12 feet and they'll be supported with professional artists and consultants we are requiring any participant to attend an online orientation as well as an onsite training and we are providing all of the materials and we are also as you know members of the Santa Rosa Junior College we're very familiar with COVID protocols so we'll be providing a very safe environment including masks and sanitizer will be provided we're providing hand washing stations and many of these groups are already bubbled up together because they're going to be coming with their team to you know paint in their circle the mural will also be open to the public to paint on as Alexa said this red clay that you see as the backdrop it's again a non-toxic all natural material and we paint those with big rollers on the street and so you know if you don't have a group there's still a way for members of the community to plug in and paint and be a part of the installation Andres would you like to speak to what what you're excited about the mural and then we'll take questions sure so as a student I feel like this is very important for for the junior college because like I have seen the in many classes the students are no the same anymore they're pretty like in their phones just you know texting or you know social media they don't interact with other students and some of them they're scared so there are many things going on and I feel like this is a way that we can have all the students in one place you know and it's going to be outdoors and so they can you know start interacting with other students and have connections also this is fascinated because it's art and also probably we're going to have music from the music department and we're trying to have a you know an event where everyone is going to enjoy this and also learn about all the themes or all the ideas that the students will provide about the livable future so I'm super excited and hopefully we can do this and you know um have as many students as we can out there and working on this thank you Andres I think that concludes our presentation we'd be happy to take any questions do I do I um call on people or is there a chair with I don't know protocol I'm sorry yeah the chair will field the question I mean she'll she'll call on members thank you for the presentation Melanie do you have a question for our presenters Melanie you're on mute um how does the community get involved yeah so we will invite the communities to submit ideas for their own mural so like the APPC wants to have a mural we would invite you to fill out the form once we get the green light from this committee and we've talked with Tara and we're going to start getting people involved we just want to make sure as I said that we've provided a really safe and empowering space and we know that means building a lot of of you know a lot of these meetings and so this is one of our final meetings like this and then we're ready to start really um announcing this opportunity to the public it'll be a really easy google form we'll ask you who your group is what's your idea roughly and then we'll ask you to commit to like having four people on the day of and attending those required trainings so I can put the what I can send the website to Tara to share with you I guess I was asking how how do how will they find out about this project or how is it being marketed I guess it's thank you we'd love to have ideas yeah so do you want to a couple things that we already have planned is a blast to the entire college community both to our students and all of our faculty and staff to let them know also our partner organizations like I know what I use is collective is already working with some roseland university prep students who want to be involved and the Monarch project as well has volunteers that they're hoping to bring in but then we're also just part of community networks and we're just going to start spreading throughout those community networks so I am involved in Sonoma County climate action network I'm an elder for the sunrise Sonoma County hub and the Sonoma County climate mobilization so I'm going to be blasting it to all those folks and basically we're asking everybody to contact everybody they know that's our plan but if you have other suggestions we would always welcome them okay and we are sending a letter to all of our neighbors which I think is like a thousand individuals and we'll be inviting again community organizations and we'll do some target invites as well with some of our maybe our labor organizations in the county or some of our community you know our city partnerships so we have as as Alexa said some community networks but it would be great if you had any ideas on just how to get it to the general population if you have any Facebook groups or social media that you could we have a flyer and a website kind of as I said ready to go as soon as we get our final approval so we would welcome any support in getting it out to the city at large we just covered and in fact I'm I'm more concerned about too much interest but we have a plan for that too and we're also asking student groups that are like-minded if they want to partner on a circle so we have like the bio club and the chemistry club they may have a shared vision of how science might contribute to a livable future so we'll be doing some mixing and matching as well. Hi Jeff you had a comment or a question? Yeah hi thanks. Well I'm Jeff Nathanson I'm the director of the Museum of Sonoma County and I really appreciate this presentation because it looks like a great project. I just wanted to offer that if you're trying to really expand the reach to the community our museum served as a hub for post wildfire collaborations throughout the community after the 2017 wildfires and we have continued to keep those cultural organizations that network alive and well and trying to you know just communicate with one another. We'd be happy to help spread the word far and wide I can also understand if you think it might be too much but feel free to reach out because it looks like a great project we would love to be supportive of what you're doing. Thank you we'll be following out for sure. So you had a question? Would you call me? Lisa sorry. Yes now I have some questions and comments so first of all this is exciting from my knowledge and what I can remember the junior college does not have an a large mural anywhere on campus an outdoor mural if you do please let me know and I'm staying corrected but so something like this is really exciting because I don't recall seeing any kind of large mural on campus. Also too I just wanted to make sure when I'm looking at the map in phase one we have all of the circles but then there's a space in between is that space in between in the middle is that the walkway because that's going to be the heavy more heavy traffic and so that's why there's not one there okay and then how are you going about choosing who do these circles go to which clubs which organizations and how are you if there's quite a few people if there's more people who want to be involved than circles there is then there are circles and even if you are going to divide them up how are you going to make those choices and is this going to be something that a group of you are going to take over and yes I so that's a that's a question one of my just thank you we just had a conversation about that over the weekend about the criteria that we are going to be using and identify a few a few priorities being connected to the college is one of them being tied to the theme would be another and it being maybe environmental in nature since it's an earth day event we also talked about accessibility if you have some accessibility issues or you have are you representing you know just say students with disabilities or community members with disabilities we would give priority and there was one more wasn't there Alexa what else did we say was going to help guide this oh and then we we said we were going to be strategic we asked people on the form would you be willing to partner so we'll also just say even if they're not like minded maybe they could become like minded in their design and then that's that plan B for the extension so we don't anticipate with the extension which has been approved by the college and does have an approved traffic control plan in place so it is an option we could get up to 20 how many circles with the extension Alexa so with the extension just to Cundy Hall it's 40 circles so I mean I would be thrilled if for the organization you know but yeah so um yeah yeah and we do plan to have students on the on hoping Andres will be available to help us make those decisions well okay so students and organizations within the JC are going to be a priority yes okay great and is this this will be the largest outdoor mural at the JC correct and does the JC have any outdoor murals at this time no but I do remember seeing an email coming through that our art commission is currently in the process of approving one for installation I maybe that's indoors though oh that's indoors okay we did we do have one in Petaluma that just got approved for the on site of our multicultural center so they are actually in concept designed down there but no we don't have any outdoor murals here at the college okay I think the indoor mural you're referring to is one that was commissioned by Maria Maria de Los Angeles right yeah so we've worked really closely with her and we know about that mural I like the I'm glad Lisa you asked that question about outdoor murals I think the junior college is ready for one oh absolutely it is very much so and my other question was too so the draft plan of these uh who do they get run I saw that you had the approvals there that you were waiting for but um I mean we got a general idea on what's going on there but we we have not seen the draft and I don't know if anybody else has seen the draft there's that just something that's going to be uh in the making and who is going to approve those drafts how what's the criteria for that because I know you did talk about the criteria and needs to be something related but um what kind of how are you guys how are you going about judging that and um going to evaluate the criteria of that yeah so we have a timeline that includes a submission of a draft and then a submission of a final prior to a training and so I've worked with David Solent and Gemma Searle on some of the other process projects and um the we really want to empower people who are not professional artists to give it a try you know so we don't want to be too persnickety about the beauty or aesthetic you know we really want them to take ownership of it so we will work with them and their vision but we do have all of these professional artists that are working with us through ASA Selective and Monarch Project and David and Gemma so they will be there to help refine ideas that come in I'm hoping that we aren't going to have to turn away any groups and so you know it'll just be like okay let's see your draft here's how it can be improved and especially for painting on the street where you're not going to get really fine grain detail you know sort of like oh it might be easier if you just kind of giving that kind of advice um and working with them so hopefully they really see themselves in the final product yeah I don't know if that addresses your question no that does that sounds wonderful and again you just reminded me that you are working with those these groups so which does help because I've seen their their work and I'm familiar with what they do so that's I'm really happy to hear that and I mean I clicked on all your um what you had on here the only there was one the street murals movement that was a New York Times you have to have a subscription to open that up so that might be an issue for a lot of other people who do not have a paper you know subscription to the New York Times just a thing for heads up yes but otherwise everything on here it's I'm excited very excited if you guys can all make it we'd love to have you the day out absolutely and you had a few questions uh two things more like um in the in the nature of wave finding and um are you going to be how first of all how long is this going to stay up so we're well let's tell it on April 22nd and we've committed to take it down by October 1st okay great that's what I thought through the summer perfect um and I just was thinking about like schools and you know in the aftermath of the making the making is obviously you don't want billions of people there when you're making um I mean some would be great or maybe you do I don't know if you have a way to to manage that but I just was wondering about just I'm newer to the area but I lived up in an apartment up there for like last year so I'm really familiar with Elliot I was right off of that and it is kind of the street you there's a light there and all that kind of thing but you know it buffs on to Mendocino and that's just a huge street and there's where are people working people park if they want to go see it and just when you're advertising it to schools and to people you want to come view it I'm just thinking about how can I access the JC because there isn't free parking it's really hard to park so just like that even if you need to walk from here or you can get established some place that people could park and things like this thinking about getting more people to it I think that's really cool and I really I just really love the idea I love the scale that is super exciting and just the design on that kind of scale is really going to like like you said it's going to kind of encompass all these small pieces are going to be caught in the and the embrace of this large plant which is really beautiful so thanks yeah and I do I haven't asked this of Andres yet but I am hoping that one of the things Andres will do is take a photo of each one of the murals and this has been done in previous installations by David Jama and then our website our website which is going to be promoting participation will then turn into a documentation website of each mural we have what was the inspiration of the mural the organization's link and we do have metered parking very close to the Elliott ab in Burbank Circle so we'll be sure on the website when it flips over to a great national thing to include part yeah that'd be awesome yeah that's great and Genevieve I don't think I had a chance to tell you but I did hear from Donald Laird who is a professor at the college and teaches our drone technology that he will be available that morning to bring out his drone and do a you know full picture from above yeah great do any other committee members have any questions for our presenters I have a couple questions so I didn't quite hear the date of installation was that at the end of April April 22nd earth day okay it's a Friday Friday morning April 22nd great thank you and then in terms of the approval process will there be a date when you select which items are to be painted or sorry which which proposals have been accepted what what is your expected cutoff date for making that decision so we anticipate March 25th to close the google form where we're accepting ideas and then as Dr. Borrester said we'll move into helping the groups that were selected either partner or refine their vision to ensure that it it's doable it's aesthetically pleasing and that it's you know that nothing we don't get off the mark there so from basically March 25th to April 22nd we'll be helping the it will notify and then help the participants refine their design yeah and I think we're asking people to have their final draft done by the Sunday prior which is when there will be an onsite training and they can practice painting it we're setting aside a corner of one of our parking lots for them to practice painting so they that they're kind of prepared for the day of great thank you well that you guys have considered lead times and preparation times in your in your calendar of events for this at this time I would like to ask for our reporting secretary to let us know if there's any public comments on this item we have no raise hands at this time okay great uh in order for our committee to have a discussion I would like for there to be a motion put on the table would any committee member like to raise or present a motion for this item well I'll make the motion then we open discussion on the mural so the recommended recommended action is to approve the art design so that in this case it's more of a concept so if we could get a motion to approve or another motion then discussion can happen okay then I'll make it a motion to approve great thank you Lisa do any committee members have any items that they would like to discuss regarding the um concept of this with the eventual um acknowledgement that a design will be decided upon at a later date Jeff I'll just say that I think it's really great for this committee for the art and public places committee to be supporting projects like this that are based in the community and at local educational institutions and so I'm really pleased to support this motion and I think the presentation was sufficient for me to understand that the concept especially around the environment climate change and happening on earth day is something that I feel is really important for us to support so I'm glad to vote for this great thank you Lisa you have a comment and I just want my my understanding since this is not going to be removed till October and fall get started what is the end of August so this will there and the streets will be closed for when um school does it's full swing and all the students are there again correct no no the street is only going to be closed for the one day April 22nd for installation and then it will be open to regular use and then cleaned up before the rains begin so that's where the October 1st date comes from go ahead don't look yeah with just one clarification because it's not really in our control but a big portion of where the mural is going to be is slated to be closed it's like going to be closed to through traffic between the two entrances to the emeritus parking lot which is a big stretch of it so um I think that's worked its way all the way through the city I just don't know at some point they're going to close that part of the street to through traffic and it will be only accessible by bikes and pedestrians and emergency vehicles if needed but again I don't sorry just to clarify is that due to the construction or is that for some other purpose now I have a link to the pilot project of the closing of Elliott Ave that's already been through all of the approval in CEQA and so what it is is it's as Alexa said just a small stretch that we're going to close in a pilot in a pilot to see how it works because we the college I think and the city because we've had a lot of pedestrian accidents on this street we are hoping that if it's successful if no neighbors if there's you know if we're not seeing any major disruptions that we can eventually close this section and allow more pedestrian traffic in a safer environment so currently there is there is an approved pilot that we they we've told them that we've postponed the launch of the pilot because we were closed so we have been waiting to reopen the campuses before initiating that pilot closure of the small piece of Elliott so but for our day the larger portion of Elliott will be closed so that we can paint the street and then I'm guessing that in the fall they might initiate that pilot closure but that is under our facilities and operations department so but the link to the CEQA document in the proposal yeah I saw that and I read that and it said something about fall of 2021 so that's why I was confused too and so I'm guessing you guys you pushed it back and that's going to be closed and I'm not I'm not clear on how far is that pushed back I know you guys are closing April 22nd and then if that's going to close how much longer is that going to go till because I think it's in spring of 2022 which I mean the link that you had it doesn't have the correct date so that's where I'm right yeah I think they asked for a postpone all because and we're and we're granted it given that our college was closed due to COVID so normally I don't think those things are flexible but I think they were granted a special kind of postponement of that pilot street closure project because we don't have any because one of the things is to see if we have reduced pedestrian accidents or interfacing you know because sometimes it's not an accident it's just an altercation but if we so the idea is that we can see that pedestrians are having a better time there and there's more safety but we can't really fully you know actualize the benefits of the project if we don't have pedestrians on our campus so that's why the dates are wrong is because we were hoping to be reopened by then but we do anticipate reopening in fall 2022 okay great thank you for making that clear and what about summertime too we're hoping okay but you haven't gotten word you're not sure as of yet no we do know that we're coming back two days a week April 18th okay but all of our learning is online at this point for 40% only we only have 40% on our campus so 60% is online okay so the summer schedule I think is about the same 40 60 and then fall we're hoping will be more the reverse at least where it's 60% in person and 40% online but again as as Alexa said that's much out of our kind of scope yeah I think my concern too just right now is um with the propose of being that closed on the April 22nd after you do it we don't have a for sure that that streets going to be closed and so there will be car traffic which could make a big difference on how well that's maintained and how well it's going to last so that's definitely in question yeah it's not meant to be a permanent installation so it will get worn down and luckily it's not a high traffic street as I believe one of your members indicated it's pretty much used by the neighbors and our you know our community so that will benefit us um and so yeah this if let if this goes well and the pilot goes well maybe we can repaint something a little more permanent on there just for the pedestrian so it's this is kind of a pilot within a pilot and again one of our key goals the day of is to capture all the artwork and so it will live on in digital perpetuity wonderful thank you thank you for your concerns appreciate it great I would like to echo uh Jeff Nathanson's comment in regards to the importance of supporting mural projects like this and supporting creative ties for environmental awareness I I think back to the approval process that our our committee got to be part of with these strength the storm drain uh installations around railroad square and painting the you know streets to the creeks kind of connection point just giving you know a pause to think there and how successful that project had been so I applaud your guys's efforts and thinking of a way to reach out to so many people and to make this such a community-wide project so I I also am very excited to see this move forward uh and with that I would like to take a roll call vote for this project chair keeper I vice chair johns Carter oh hi thank you uh member bound gardener hi member point is hi member nathan said member sayers yes member esterian hi with the reference that um this um item has been approved unanimously thank you so much thank you all and may I say before I leave that event all the zoom calls I've been on this one has the most fabulous pairs of glasses so yeah have a great afternoon you all thank you so much thank you so much we'll see you at the mural see you there wonderful yes please send us the sign up information and how to be involved we will absolutely thank you great all right moving on with our scheduled items we're now looking at item five point two project updates uh staff will present updates on current projects we'll hand this over to Tara thank you hi everyone let me get my notes out in front of me they disappeared okay they're there um I just have a few updates for today um we've been of course moving forward with um the artist's final design and engineering for unum after the last approval uh the special meeting in February so no further updates there um for the fifth street parking garage project they help each other grow design by mj and joshua lawyer um they uh we right now we are still awaiting the final signatures for their contract and as soon as we have that we will be working with them on their implementation timeline and I'll be reporting back um any updates to that as soon as as soon as I can for the asawa panels work with the courthouse square fountain the foundry we are working with in berkeley artwork foundry is continuing to work on the engineering for the panel attachment to the fountain as well as refining the scanning and mold making adjustments um to make sure the final product is good so no further updates um other than they're continuing to work work on that and make progress for the artist in the general plan project um we've continued to work with the san rosa forward team and we have identified an arts and equity consultant niko kimson with kimson creative who will be contracting with us for planning production and documentation for this project this will include identifying artists and sites in equity priority communities for projects based on the topics of environmental justice health and housing and again to remind you last meeting I announced that there was um a kaiser foundation grant that was able to fund um most of the work with um niko on this as well as some of the actual projects and we'll be bringing back a final outline of what that budget looks like um probably in at the april meeting um the other project that um came up recently I believe it was when christin madson presented uh to the committee back last fall um is a project called arts surround which is um run by creative sonoma and the city is essentially considered an advocate um and partner on the project but it essentially is um for um training for both advocates and artists as well as grants for artists to complete projects all throughout sonoma county and the intention is how to work with um your community how to support artists in your community training for advocates so meaning training for arts organizations non-profits private businesses chambers of commerce who want to support artists um so training along those lines as well as training for artists on how to do projects in in public and with the community and so the funding from the city's public art fund for this project will obviously go towards projects located in sonoma county and but there are other partners throughout the county that will be um a part of this as well so that that's supposed to be kicking off this summer and um hopefully we'll have some more updates to bring you as that moves forward those are all of the project updates I have for today so happy to answer any other questions about those otherwise um I have a few more updates to provide under department reports a little bit later on the agenda thank you tara do any committee members have questions for the uh project updates that we just heard seeing none I will move along with our agenda thanks item seven we have future agenda items this schedule is tentative and subject to change pending final publication and posting of the meeting agenda this time is reserved for discussion whether to place matters on future agenda for future discussions uh our future agenda's ongoing list includes private partnerships commercial real estate and local artists how can the art and public places committee support community programs or events third we have fire commemoration memorial project and lastly we have budget for visiting artists and a oral lecture program do any committee members have any suggestions of what other topics to add to future agendas member nathanson thank you um we have a committee of the museum exploring the possibility of creating hopefully in partnership with the city a what we're calling a heritage walk although it might have a different title in the future but for a working title heritage walk in order to try to create paths that pedestrians can follow to lead them to key places in downtown we are only in the very very early stages of conceptualizing this this project but it would ideally connect courthouse square to the museum the library to railroad square perhaps to some other key organizations or sites and then along the way we would have markers you might employ some kind of gps or qr code technology to help people who are exploring the city to learn about the history and culture of santa rosa and so i don't envision bringing this to a discussion topic for quite a few months but i wanted to at least put it on the list to have a future agenda item for a heritage walk in downtown santa rosa great thank you that should be a great discussion coming up in a few months and if we have any initial comments uh can we reach out to you with our thoughts about how to um move along with this process or who to reach out to uh you can reach out to me and i'll just mention um risa you have been involved with one of the committees that's been talking about this so we certainly have to have many more discussions and meetings before we bring it to apc but just in the interest of being on the list i'm mentioning it great thank you melanie i'm not muted okay good um i just thought with the members of art and public places like to submit a proposal for the earth day project we'd have to move quickly apparently if we want to i'm no artist but several of you are i believe that's some good marketing for us that's sounds good i think so too yeah i'd be up for yeah okay we got two i would also be up for this all right tara is this legal can we do this um i believe you can have a maximum of three commit sub you can form a subcommittee uh essentially of three of you but no more um to me you discuss people apparently oh okay okay and and then i mean you could essentially design a prop you could design a design and then you i don't i don't i don't actually know exactly what proper procedures would need to be in place to like have the full committee be in support of it but i would say a subcommittee of three of you can can proceed and then if all of committee members want to attend and participate in a public event you are free to there's no quorum issue there it's more a matter of like designing i i think if you're discussing business related to the anyway um i'm probably not answering this super clearly but i believe that that's how i i would interpret it but right so please go ahead if you have anything i was gonna say i think that's right i think it's just um i think if you're um if you're discussing uh matters of the body then it's three people but otherwise everybody can participate in um in the um paint in the painting of the mural and that i think it's great that's a great idea yeah okay all right okay so i i saw three people who said that they would like to be interested to would like to uh participate so yeah okay you you want to take the lead on getting our name on sure i will do that getting us on the getting the info from them it sounded like yeah that'd be great okay okay so i just want to make sure that we're clear because um melanie you suggested this but i think it's three other members who just volunteered to be yeah so only three of them can only three total can do it yes got it yeah or i'll get the information but i'm no artist so i'm willing to just back away after that but then show up in paint yeah i will definitely show up i can paint big spaces yeah yeah yeah that's great i think it's a great idea i do too okay i'll show up all right great um chair keifer for the record it sounds like it's you member bomb garden and member plaintiffs right yes yeah okay so we would be coordinating on the design yeah and we would open it up for the rest of the committee to join us yeah and um i think who's an artist out of here of this group and i know and chair keifer is an architect which is in the artist right everyone every yes do we have any muralists i've done some mural work yeah okay yeah definitely and you are going to be one of them on there yeah i'm glad nathan nathan is an artist as well i believe yeah so that's why i'm in the art spectrum yeah nathan okay yes i'm just gonna say each each art project um should have a lead artist or designated collaborators but it sounds to me like an is volunteering to be the lead artist so um thank you that's okay i'm totally cool with that yes all right melanie's helping me can she help me with get to the yeah i'll do the administrative admin stuff yeah okay great and i can help with predicting the large size if that's needed and then we get denied after submission it's okay for us to communicate about it that's that's it's chill on the whole three people yeah i mean it's to me i don't i actually don't even know i mean you approve sorry sorry you're on mute sorry i was making a really excellent point exactly nobody heard it um i because you approved their design of their project and now you're participating i'm not you know it it to me it feels like a different level of participation the the decisions that have been made um are not weighing into your participation as members of the public but but to be on the safe side again i would just recommend that no more than three of you meet to discuss the design that you want to submit and then um i you can send me whatever you would like me to send out to the full committee so that there can be then broad information sharing with all committee members about any any participation in the painting itself lesson great excellent and um before i forget i believe we skipped over item six on the agenda so christin maybe after we close up future agenda items you could go back to that one thank you i was planning on doing that but you you caught me all right do any other committee members have any future agenda items to add to our list seeing none i would like to go back to item six committee reports uh six point one ad hoc task force task force reports and discussions um it's been a few months since we've reported out on these items uh or on these task courses um does the diversity equity inclusion and access task force have any updates to give to our group there we go yeah we don't at this moment um we do have um plans basically next month we will we will have a lot something to report and we are working on things to have something done by the next meeting for sure great thank you lisa yes all right community engagement there any of nothing to report hey melanie why don't we meet so we can have something to something for next month okay sounds like a plan let's do that all right all right and i will speak for uh project development we also currently don't have any new news to report to our committee um i will check in with tara regarding the santa rosa forward our artist in the general plan process um and and nathan if you want to add any yeah just briefly um i've been working with a group from southern california um and that's going to result in an art fair that'll happen on may 14th in juliaard park um and that'll be a combination of um uh alternative art spaces from the area but also from sort of further afield um and if anyone's curious about that i'll forward the email about it to tara to distribute to the other members of the committee yes i would love information on that and nathan we also share sorry to put you on the spot will you share more about what um ben is presenting about this sunday at your place he's um so ben kin wants an artist in an antiquarian bookseller who lives in sabastapool but has a a long history of the kind of conceptual art practice starting in new york in the early nine or late eighties and um he's going to show some video work and publications um that's three different projects sort of the different instantiations of these projects over over the period from 1990 to 2018 and um and he'll be publishing those eskilar which is the um which is the sort of project space that happens in my yard and that'll be on sunday i mean it'd be great to see all of you there if you can make it nathan can i ask a question uh huh um is is that going to be um a presentation like starting at a certain point ending at a certain point is it going to be a it'll go from one to five right and a continuum like like so if you're coming you're coming for four hours like that kind of thing yeah yeah there's two video works and some uh works on paper and then ben will be published publishing things on a small press here so then that'll sort of run for the duration great thank you and thanks for distributing that information so we have the details um great okay moving on to item eight on our agenda department reports uh i will kick it back to tara this time is reserved for city staff to provide a briefing on issues of interest great thanks i just have a few very brief updates that don't really fit under project reports but that are also going on with our department um the national arts program is back uh for an in-person exhibit at finley this year so it again is a community art program where residents of santa rosa and or employees of the city of santa rosa can enter one artwork um into the show and it's juried for awards it's supported by a grant we get from the national arts program foundation and we give out over three thousand dollars worth of awards um this year we had some great jurors um and jessica runs this this program uh but the reception is this sunday unfortunately conflicts a little bit with um the event at nathan's place um so it's a three p.m reception at the finley community center it's only one hour this year we're keeping it short um during covid we're not serving food it's a little bit pared down from the normal reception we usually have but we will be in person handing out the awards and viewing the show there's i think about 160 um pieces in the show this year um last year if you recall we did have it online we did all virtual um uh last year and that and in 2020 it was still up it essentially got shut down during the covid shutdown um so we installed the show but we were not able to have it up for its full its full length in 2020 so we're happy to be having it back in person um let's see what else um soon i want to share with you the pre preview of our new out there san rosa website we are getting to the point of being able to launch it very soon and planning some launch activities in april um so perhaps at the next meeting i can walk you through what it's starting to look like there's a great um representation of public art and arts in general on the site that's very exciting um the arpa funds um which is the american rescue plan plan act um we are using some of those funds or proposing proposing to use some of those funds for uh small business support in qualified census tracks and a part of that will be a facade improvement component that will be a essentially run by the public art program where we will contract with an art arts nonprofit to manage murals and other art profits on the facade of participating businesses um so that's an exciting partnership between public art and economic development and um using some of those arpa funds i also wanted to briefly mention uh fremont park and some of you may be seen on facebook or other social media um that there's a consultant hired by the park's department to redo the master plan for fremont park fremont park is a small park downtown on fourth street near hope street um and in the park is a cancer survivors monument that was essentially um placed by the city through a donation um and through a partnership with a survivor cancer uh foundation um it wasn't really commissioned by the public art program but we have kind of adopted it as an necessity to maintain it so we now consider it a part of a public art collection and do put our maintenance funds towards keeping it looking good and once the park's master plan consultants come up with some options for the revised master plan they will present to the art and public places committee for input about the art itself whether it should stay in the park be relocated within the park or be relocated to another location altogether those are essentially the three options that are um on the table right now and they're going through their public input process and communication process currently to come up with some um essentially alternatives some designs to look at so just wanted to mention that in case you have heard that or if that comes up that that that is how that they know that art and public places will need to be one of their stakeholders that they present to once they get to that point in their process those for the department reports that I have and rice I just wanted to see if there's anything else you'd like to add no okay happy to answer any questions great thanks Tara uh for the Fremont park re reworking of the master plan do you know if there's the timeline associated with when we might be hearing this I know we have some vacations coming up so or over the summer want to be mindful yeah um to be honest I don't have that right in front of me I'd be happy to look at it and send you it you could also I believe there's a website on the city's website a web page on the city's website devoted to the project so that um I'll find that link I'll send it out to the committee you can take a look at their proposed timeline they have not contacted me yet to get on a future agenda but you may be able to tell a general timeline from their overall project timeline great good information thanks do any committee members have any questions for city staff to wrap up our meeting today seeing none I would like to close our meeting thank you all for attending