 You know, I did the show. It was cool. It was certain things I ain't really careful. And, you know, I made him give me a walk away contract. Yo, this party up, you didn't do your. Walk away contract, explain. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. I want to ask you about, is it blacking? Yeah. I want to ask you about your participation in that. Like, how was it? How did you even get linked with that whole situation? What time do you got the party started? Honestly, the crazy part, like, this one, I come back from LA. I had my brother, he come in town. He was in Houston. So he come in town. Like I was in tattooing. I stopped tattooing because I was up there with Pete. I was up there for like five years. And I come back and I'm doing other stuff. So I got my other stuff going on. So my brother came in town. I'm like, look, you have my shot. Like go tattoo. And he start hashtagging. You know, hashtagging black, black tattoo, New Orleans tattoos or whatever. And somebody from Kaston called him, right? So they hit him up like, look, we coming in, we about to start the new black ink. We gonna do the New Orleans. We looking for artists, you know, such and such. We're from black ink. So he come to me, see, look, bro, this black ink on the phone. I think you should talk to him. I told him, I ain't read it, but I want to introduce them to you. So I get on the phone with him and I'm telling him who I was. And they like, wait, you such a stud, this you? Oh, we been looking for you. We been hearing about you. Cause we've been asking all the people who like, urban tattoo artist from New Orleans. So everybody kept telling them about me. So they're like, yeah, you know, we want to link up with you. So I talked them for like, like two months before filming and all that, before anything was going on. And we were just keeping in contact, telling me about the show and all that. And I'm just telling them what I'm trying to accomplish. And you know what I'm saying? On the show for the show, for me to agree to do it. And you know, I did the show. It was cool. It was certain things I ain't really careful. And you know, I had, I made him give me a walk away contract. Yo, this party up. You didn't do your walk away contracts play. So I didn't have no ties. Like they want to lock you in for at least 10 years for the show. And I come from contracts. I come from doing move. I was signed. I was so, I'm like, nah, I'm good on that. Like I'm reading my contract and I'm not, I'm not with this. 10 years? 10 years. They want to, and they want to, everything you put out, they wanted something from it. So it's like, it was complicated. It was like, bro, look, y'all ain't making it. I already got stuff going on. I already got, I'm doing shit already. So y'all not about to take no money from that. So we really got to sit down and break this contract down. So they try to give me the contract the day before. Cause when I go out and play, they think I'm younger than what I am and I'm quiet. Cause I were observing what's going on to see if you're trying to play me. And you know, that was one of the moves. So I called him like, look, I'm good. So I turned him down like five times. And then they finally, it had Caesar hit me up. I met with him. He like, look, though, like, I'm a, you know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a director on here. And like, whatever you want. Like I got you. Like I ain't gonna make sure nothing crazy going on. I'm like, I bet, but I want to walk away contract until I see a few episodes and see how this going. Then I revisit that. But you know, there was a lot of just stuff going on and the show didn't really last. So I was able to walk away. Big Red Records. Walk away without no attachments. No attachments. Cause we had somebody else who was on Black Ink that we interviewed. No, that was a girl. I told him about that girl. I can't remember her name, but man, she was, it wasn't on Black Ink. She was dealing with white folks. Yeah. She was not dealing with, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It was, it was white ink. Yes. 10 years, a long country, no. That's Big Red Records, man. You wrecked it. Oh, man. I got to ask you about Mac, man. We got to talk about Mac. I can't come over here and not talk about Mac. Yeah, that's the homie. Like, like Mac is a, we interviewed Mac and Mac was so humble and just a good dude. You know what I'm saying? And, and you know, the one thing I can see about him is he talked about, you know, just, you know, coming up so early, you know, with Gregory D and all those different with Manifresh and then ending up, you know what I mean? Having to just boom, get taken away like that. But, I mean, but to be a guy who everybody say didn't do it. Right. And then to go through what he went through and still be a stern and as player and as, you know, humble as he is. I think that's live, man. Because I really think, you know, me, I'm a different, different level. I think, you know, the true gangster is taking care of your family and kids. I'm going to do all that other stuff, something different for him. But to see him reunite with his family and come back. You went through a lot, man. I remember all those nines, man, you know what I'm saying? Like Mac is the first, I tell Mac this every time from a young nigga that was in the streets and I heard Cash Money and No Limit and they had me out my mind on some gangster shit. But Mac gave you a conscience. You feel me? Yeah. He taught you through his music. You feel me? And Mac said that. Mac said he like, he a lyricist. He like, like lyrics, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's a fact. And I think that's something that details who he is and gives him a standoffish way of being not like everybody else. That's why I was honored to get his 25, 25th year anniversary for Shell Shop. Like we got that coming up on July 20, 30, but. That's hard. I'm honored to do that for the homie. Like I'm like, bro, let me, let me get you a 25th anniversary. That's, I love it. He was like, let's do it. You feel me? He ain't even, like I said, he like him too. They don't be, they don't ask no questions. You heard me? I'd be glad they don't hit me with a contract. I would get mad if they don't hit me with a contract. They be like, let's do it. I'd be like, hey, bro, it's all love. You call me? I just was about to start a movie. I said, look, my birthday and everything. I said, fuck it. I ain't going to work. Come on. Let's do it. That's hard, man. That's just, that's loyalty. That's different, that's different, man. Yeah. Man, so I mean, you really like, when you think about just what, what new Orleans represent to the culture, man, I gotta say thank y'all, man. I always interview a lot of new Orleans people, man. Thank you. I rock with y'all, man. Ever since I did this podcast, I already am from right by new war. I'm not new on balloons and I know y'all think it's different, man. It's his own place. It has parishes and all. It's his own spot. Yeah, yeah. It's different. What do you think about KLC? Well, I got to throw his name up. Oh, the drum music. What do you think about KLC, man? To come down to the sound and the way you hear the voice. Yeah, I got the original New Orleans sound. He wanted to pioneer of that sound. You feel me? Yeah. He wanted to pioneer of that sound. So many friends came with that bounce, man. Yeah, he is a pioneer of the sound. Listen, man. Be the hop what I got, what I take it in bed. Break it down, shake it down with me and a friend. He is the sound of New Orleans. That thing is stupid. You can't put that thing by no means. You know what I said, let's fix it. You never seen him crack a down seat to the truck. Turn around and sit it down and let him bite your butt. Special on man and fresh. You know what man? That educated me so much, man. Yeah, you should go see it. To show you how bounce music started, fresh. I didn't know fresh started it. Street DJ in New Orleans and his performances was crazy. I remember my dad used to come home with DJ of the year trophy. I knew he was a part of the big game. I didn't knew he started it. And that's a bad man to take that and that's our sound. Man. What did you, when you first discovered his music and his beats, where were you at and what did you think about the movement and what was the biggest impact of his music? Man, New Orleans music was, you didn't listen to nothing else. Like you listen to NWA, New Orleans music. Because our music scene was on smash. Like the world know the hot boys. But see UNLV were man and fresh. Man, that was something different. That's where BG coming in the game enters as if he's a kid coming under UNLV. You feel me? Like, man. That was all it. Man, that was the landscape of New Orleans. You talking about from that third one. You the thought man and fresh was from the third one. How are you a cat from downtown round? All them uptown niggas. And you give them the sound that is uptown. But he from downtown. Man, I remember all them songs Lil Wayne did, man. That shit was crazy, man. That boy was hell in it, man. He was hell in them, man. That ain't nothing like that, bro. One person, all them albums? Ain't nothing like that, bro. Every album sounded different. Like, Juvie album didn't sound like a BG album. Didn't sound like a Lil Wayne album. Right. You feel me? So he really did his dog. That was crazy. I had a question. So how important is Peach's records to the culture? That's a staple. To hear every rapper say they got to start at Peach's. Like, Mia was working at Peach's. Mack coming from Peach's. BG was there? BG, like everybody come from there. That was a staple in New Orleans. And it's still there now? Yeah, for sure, for sure. It is history. It is history for history for history. I love the story. I do, too. I've been fascinated by it. I mean, I was like, it's a jewel. I'm like, don't touch it. God, be careful how you deal with it. I look at stuff different. No, I know. It's good. You have the right eye because this store was built with the help of our people, you know? Because it's like, if you can visualize the caterpillar going to the cocoon. And this is what came out of our people, you know? This is like the local paint-toes are here, the local candle makers, the local jewelers. You know, all the local people get a chance to have their stuff in here. Yeah, man. Shout out to Mr. Ron. Mr. Ron, did we interview? Hold here? No, I didn't see it. We interviewed her. No, check it out. We were in our shop. I ain't playing no games. You're cutting up, huh? You're cutting up. We were going to give you the kids in the city. I just so love, man, because I love the whole culture. And I just don't think people give us how I just do. We got to take it by force. We got to make people understand that the South ain't playing no games. And we already done it through the music. Now we got to do it through the sources of media to make them understand we going to make y'all see what we're doing. And you're doing a great job with that. Like, from the guesses that you break. You're doing a great job, given that perspective of what it is, what this culture mean. And like you say, UNG, do y'all be speaking facts? Y'all don't just speak feelings. Yeah. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. 101. Yeah, we going to talk.