 So I'm here today with Sherry Smith, a Remini Gypsy activist and campaigner who's now working in higher education. Hi, how are you doing? Yeah, I'm very well. Thanks. How are you, Sherry? Yeah, I'm good. Thanks for asking me on. So how would you describe what you do in 15 words or less? I am a Gypsy, challenging inequalities and prejudice to my people in any way that I can. And what advice would you give to a 10-year-old you? Tomorrow is the first day it'll rest your life. I say that to my children all the time. You know I was a florist up until a few years ago and before that I was a barmaid and now I'm working for a university. Tomorrow morning you're going to make the change and be what you want to be. Of all the achievements that you've kind of outlined, what would you say you're most proud of? I'm most proud of the growth of the acknowledgement of Roma Holocaust in the UK. It's not solely down to me at all. There's been many people putting in a lot of work. For the last four years I've taken a youth group to Auschwitz as part of my work and that's been wonderful to see those young people, young Gypsies, Roma and Travellers come back, share the knowledge but also watch them grow as activists and campaigners. And is there anything that you'd like to achieve which you haven't yet? Enough achievement will be for me if my grandchildren can grow up and say my name was a Gypsy and not have to hide that fact. I'd just like for us not to be ostracised. If there's one injustice you could put right immediately in the UK right now, what would it be and why? The difference between rich and poor because I don't think it matters how hard you work unless you're lucky the difference is massive and even if you're a rich Gypsy your life is different to that of a poor working class Gypsy and I just think the odds are stacked against you in every way and I think that needs evening up. Do you have any ideas about how to you know heal the divisions in society right now? I think the main thing we need to do is start listening to the truth and not the media. The way it portrays people it's mind tricks it persuades the general public people believe what they read they don't research and so there has to be some responsibility there. I know there's a lot of issues in terms of reporting on Gypsy Roma and Traveller communities I wonder if you have any thoughts about what can be done to address that so that the media can get it right what do you think needs to be done about that? It's about the portrayal it's about their language it's about the kind of stories that they publish it's about dehumanising us and not using capitals for our words we are an effluent minority it's like trivialising us we're not caricatures and we don't want to be portrayed like that. That's great well yeah thank you very much for your time. All right thanks a lot bye bye