 I'm John Furrier with SiliconAngle.com, SiliconAngle.tv, you're here at the home of big data. We are watching the Cloudera intern party where Cloudera is hosting the Silicon Valley elite interns from the computer science and programs from around the world. I'm John Furrier with SiliconAngle.com, hello everybody, I'm here at Cloudera, our headquarters at SiliconAngle.com, SiliconAngle.tv, and I'm lucky to hang out at Cloudera because Cloudera is the kind of company where all the alpha geeks are out here partying and hanging out, coding away for Apache Hadoop, the leading, the hottest open source project on the planet, and Cloudera has an open house tonight where they're just basically inviting all the interns who are summer interning from all around the world in computer science from Brown University to Washington State, and we're here with Andrew Mack. Yes sir. Okay, so step up to the microphone a little bit and let's hear from you. So what's going on with you? What's your story? My story. Basically, I am a student at the University of Washington. I'm a comparative history of ideas major. Sorry about that, hold on a second, we're fixing the camera. I'm a comparative history ideas major at the University of Washington. I did two years of college while I was in high school, so I'm in my senior year right now. Yes sir, yes sir. And basically, I hounded the WePay sales director probably four times across until he gave me a job. I came down here and I live right across the street from Cloudera actually doing good things at WePay. So tell the people what's going on. They can't see here because the screen, we'll go with a little pan around with the camera. So give folks a vibe on what you're seeing here. What's going on around you? It's crazy. So we got about four or five TVs or projectors set up, all the interns from all over the world and Silicon Valley are coming in to just kind of mix and mingle, learn about each other's companies, doing their thing. We got ping pong going on behind me. A couple more WePay interns coming in. It's crazy. There's food, popcorn. I don't know if they're serving beer. I don't know if everyone's of age yet, but we'll see. John fixing the cameras. Yeah, I mean people are hanging out. Let's take a look at that. Let's take a look at what's going on. So that's the, I think that's the video games all over. So Cloudera brought in all the stops, they brought in all the cameras, TVs, got the Silicon Angle studio here. What do you think of this little hacking studio I got here? Yeah, it's amazing. I can't believe you just set it up and had to move everything, but it's beautiful. I got four cameras, I go to camera three, they're doing a little wee action there. All right, so tell us about yourself, Andrew. What's your story? I mean, what are you studying? You're not studying computer science, but you're studying something more interesting. Right. I'm not more interesting, but something similarly interesting around science. What are you studying? A lot of history of ideas is actually an exclusive major to the University of Washington. It's only been around for 30 years. Basically it's an interdisciplinary program. We borrow from anthropology, philosophy, law, technology, biology, physics, you name it, and try to basically get students to think openly, think critically, and become agents of their own education and their own life. So does that kind of answer your question, John? Yeah. What's your interest in with Cloudera? Why are you coming here? Because you obviously got invited to the list. What's going on? Absolutely. Well, I just want to learn more about what they do, and it's always good to network in Silicon Valley. You never know who you might meet, like people like John. Basically, I'm a sales intern too, so I just want to spread the word about WePay. That being said, if anybody wants to send bills, accept donations, sell tickets for events, or even create your online store, call me up. My name is Andrew Mack, and my number is 425-750-0728, and I'll get you set up with a demo. What about your Twitter handle? You want to give that out? Yeah. It's at Mac Andrew Mack, so m-a-k, Andrew m-a-k. So tell us, who do you know from the Cloudera scene? Do you hang out? Do you know anyone by name, famous developers here? Do you know anybody that recognizes any of their names? I don't know anyone here, actually. That's kind of why I came. I was invited by another intern who was invited. So I'm just going to... His name is Elliot Spellman, so... Is he here? Not right now. He's coming later, fashionably late. Cool. Cool. Yeah. There's no beer here. So, unfortunately, right? Not everyone is available, and it's underage, and everyone's underage. How old are you? I'm 19, actually. 19. Just turn 19. Do you know any code at all? I'm starting to learn Ruby, actually. Yeah, I'm working with it a little bit, but I need to get better at it. Where are you from originally? I've been to Seattle all my life, so... Yeah. What do you think of the tech scene, Silicon Valley? It's amazing. You meet all kinds of people. I just saw Craig from Craig's List a week ago. I went to Facebook, I've been to Cloudera, I've been to Palantir, so great people, great companies, always interesting conversation. Okay. Well, anything you want to shout out to anyone out there? Anything you want to say? Hello? How many people are watching right now? We'll just get a little count here. Yeah, how many users do you have, John? What's your vision of the future? Technology. Vision of the future? Yeah. What's your dream? What do you think is going to happen with technology? Technology? You're young, you've got fresh eyes. Tell us what's going on. I hope technology just makes the life easier for everyone, you know? I'm seeing, I'm seeing like, how do I say it? Everything is being made a lot easier. You know, we're taking the kind of limitations of technology or the difficulty of technology out of the process. I was just on a call today and I was helping a 65-year-old woman set up an online store so that she could accept credit and debit card payments as well as bank account transfers and, you know, prior to our site, we weren't able to do something like that. So it's just amazing how easy it is to do things and to connect with other people using technology and I hope it spreads more, kind of show them. I'm old. I could be your parent here, but you know, in the day where I grew up, cable TV was the big thing when I was like 15 years old, MTV. Now the internet's pervasive. You've got Netflix, you've got BitTurrent, you've got Pirate Bay. You've got everything out there. The world's going to be disrupted, right? Yeah, absolutely. Do you read the paper? No, actually everything's on my iPad, everything's online, everything's going to be on Silicon Angle, right? So it really is turning digital. We kind of have to follow that curve or that trend if we want to stay ahead of the game. Do you game at all? You're a gamer? You play Xbox? Do you do any gaming at all? I do a little bit of StarCraft. I have a friend who's, I think he's a master's league StarCraft player, so he's into that stuff and maybe some Super Smash Bros. So I might catch on to one of these projectors. Let me ask you a question. Is school boring for you? I mean, with all the data on the web, I mean, you go to classes, you pay the money, you've got some professors to pull from, a whole new educational model going out there. You bored? I mean, is it like, yeah, yeah, I've had that problem, you know, because I was in business school before I went to Comparative History of Ideas as a major. And basically, should I be looking at the camera or should I be looking at you, John? No, just look at me. Okay, I should be. Yeah, sorry, sorry. But basically, you know, in business school, it's learning how to write emails. And I was like, I'm sitting in a room thinking about it, and I was like, I'm paying $1,000 to learn how to write emails, it's not going to work out for me. So I'm not doing business school, but my current major is actually pretty interesting, taking the time out of your life to think critically, think about philosophy and what the great thinkers have done, and how they've thought about the world at their time. That's pretty interesting to me. But I definitely need to keep myself busy with some entrepreneurial pursuits. We know that SiliconANGLE.com is our tagline, is where computer science meets social science. So it's cool that you're studying these kind of new ideas. And I was talking to Richard McEnif, who was last year at VMworld. He's the Chief Development Officer at VMware, and obviously been at Microsoft. We're at Bill Gates. The best hires were non-computer science. They were English majors and social science guys. So creativity comes from a lot of places. Cool. What qualities? Why is that? Did he give an explanation? Because they see the world differently, and they look at different data, and they study interactions and patterns. So one of the things that I'm looking at right now is the pattern matching between social behavior and the web. So social media, social networking is new. I mean, Facebook is only like five years old. Right. Six years old. Right. What number you use. So I mean, come on. Six years old. Yeah. So it's not developed. Yeah, definitely. So the online computer science is going to have reasoning. Yeah. It's going to be some sociology to it. So that's my thesis. Mm-hmm. I'm sticking to it. Interesting. Good deal. Which is why I'm doing Silicon Academy, my new site that I'm launching this year. And it's going to be a social media version of learning. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Completely non-linear. Okay. Completely non-linear. So how is it going to work? Give me a little, you know, brief synopsis of what you're going to do. Well, you know what I mean? The younger generation, like yourself, my son's 16, he's Gexbox Gaming. Mm-hmm. The data. You're processing so much data all the time. Yeah. The real physical world can be boring. Yeah. So it'll be augmented with other tools. So augmented reality is going to be computer driven as an aid to life. Cool. So it's going to be for betterment. Right. For, you know, all kinds of areas. Education. I see. Social interactions. Awesome. So have you, uh, have you talked to Peter Thiel yet or something like that? No. You know his 20 under 20 program? Yeah. I do know. I've heard of it. Yeah. I haven't chat with him. I talked to Sean Parker over on Facebook. Uh-huh. And I've met Thiel a few times. But I'm not going to grovel over to get a meeting with him. But, you know, when he sees what we're doing with Silicon Academy, he's going to be involved. And we've got a lot of people behind it already, so. That'd be great. We're going to build it out and build it out from a big data perspective. Uh-huh. So great. Well, hey, thanks for stopping in. Thank you, John. Go mingle. I don't want to hug up all your time. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Let's go back to the, uh, Mackinif interview. This is Richard Mackinif from VMware. And, uh, we're going to hear from him. Let's go to the Cloudera party line. Thank you, John. Got a damn blackberry. I want the iPhone. At least in California. Yeah. You know, it's a great question. IT, as you know, is really under a lot of pressure. They're under pressure to do more with less. And 70% of their resources are actually spent, uh, on maintenance. At the same time, they're being driven to do more in terms of providing services to their end users, to their business partners. So, uh, again, being driven. And I think that the world of self-service, of being able to provision as you go, will be conditioned very quickly. A few clicks, and we're on a Twitter stream. And that's what people want inside the browser. A question about the future of cloud and kind of tying in the whole wind-tell revolution. I mean, Intel put a processor together. They encapsulated a lot of technology in that. No one complained. There was a lot of technical stuff under the hood. No one said, hey, they're proprietary. What's going to be that processor that everyone going, hey, it's a black box and it's going great and we're running apps on top or kind of components? How does a cloud fit into that metaphor? The PC is a black box with processors. How do you see that? Is the cloud, is it not directly but metaphorically, is out of those kinds of opportunities because you've got to have proprietary technology to run scalable, great user experience devices? Yeah, no, I think it's, again, another very interesting question that we've probably spent a long time on. You can think of the cloud in some sense as almost being a box. The cloud itself is being a box where you have many, many different blades. X86, by the way, is going to drive this. And then you have software like DeSphere. Yeah, I was just interviewing this. So I got three windows. Camera one, camera two, five cameras. So this is just a video set. I built this box with scratch, it has my own spec and we have our own software on that, that's some pretty cool shit. But I won't go into that. But this is this box here as camera one is me. Camera two is the chair. Camera three is the crowd. Camera four is the computer. Camera four is the computer. Camera five is Richard McEnif. Now he's at the intern party. So that from the in-jews perspective it just looks like I have infrastructure. Much like I have infrastructure. And this is really what the revolution is all about. There's new infrastructure. That's almost over. I'm running a rerun down here. So I got a DDR and I built on top of that. So I'm going to Clips. Infrastructure. And then there's desktop or in-jews are on top. Back to camera three. We're here live at Cloud Air's intern party. All the top interns from around Silicon Valley have come around town. I got two jumps behind me from Silicon, from Carnegie Mellon. What's your name? My name is Melvin. Melvin. Three. Three. Go sit down in the hot seat. From Carnegie Mellon. You guys know how to program? Are they programming then? Carnegie Mellon these days? Basic? You guys study Basic over there? Carnegie Mellon? Any more? All right. We're going to get to Carnegie Mellon guy. Hey, sit down in the hot seat, Melvin. Come on. All right. So the young guns. Let's see Melvin. There we go. Get a little camera action on Melvin. Okay. Let me do a little sound check here. All right, Melvin. What's your story? Pull the microphone a little closer. The background noise. It's directional. Is that good? Yeah. It's my story. From New York. I just finished my junior at Carnegie Mellon. I'm an electrical and computer engineering major. I'm also majoring in engineering and public policy and minoring in robotics. Cool. Do you know how to code? Yeah. You can write software? Yeah. What's your favorite language? C. Yeah. What's your best thing you ever worked on? So, Carnegie Mellon. We're competing in the Google Lunar XPrize Challenge. So basically what we're doing is we're sending a robot to the moon to send back HD photo and video. And I worked on the FPGA-based locomotion systems. All right. Cool. I'm John Furrier. I'm here with SiliconANGLE.com. We're here with the young guns, the future generation. I mean, hell, the space shuttle just landed its final mission. This guy's a robotics geek. Dude, how do you feel about that? Come on. I'm going to get the NASA working on some cool shit. What's going on? Yeah. It looks like NASA don't know if the future is in NASA. But at least it's moving more private institutions. I know other companies are coming up like SpaceX and stuff like that. So get to see the research going, moving to the private sector a little bit. Melvin, let me ask you a question. You're a young gun. You're here at Cloud Air. These guys are the Super Brain Trust. Silicon Valley top interns are here. What's your vision of the future? What do you see possible that's different? I mean, I'm old. I'm 45. I mean, shit. They had black and white TVs when I was a kid. You know, there's no cable. There was no internet when I was in college. There's no texting. I mean, what do you see is really big change happening? What do you see happening? Definitely, I see maybe robots taking over more. I know I see it now in the Priests. They have all this stuff like Lane Assist. The robots are parking for you and all that stuff. So whatever anything a robot can do to make your task easier. Looking for that. What about augmented reality? Without software? Any cool like new sunglasses come out, that special powers? I mean, come on. Anything? Not too sure about what's coming out on the software side. I mean, I know a little bit they're having, you know, verilogs moving more to like system verilog. That's all I keep up with how to make verilog easier. So describe the scene here for people that aren't here. What are you seeing out there in the cloud era? Describe the scene here for the folks that are not here. Oh, yeah. So it's a bunch of young interns, video games everywhere. There's snacks everywhere. And people are just socializing. Yeah. What's your story? What do you want to do when you graduate? Any ideas? I'm not too sure yet. So I'm an ECE major. So that's both hardware and software. But definitely I like to move into something robotics field. Definitely. College fun for you? It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. I know it's the most fun thing in the world. It doesn't stop, man. College is your best time of your life. Enjoy it. So I've heard. So I've heard. But it's a lot of work at CMU. A lot of old nighters. A lot of endless nights, long nights. It's a good program. Carnegie Mellon's got a great interview. We had a big gander at VMworld last year. They're doing all kinds of cool cloud stuff. Good papers. What's your favorite thing outside of robotics in the world that's changing? What do you see? I love basketball. I love sports. I love basketball. Yeah. So I know it's a little sad era now that football's on strike. NFL's on strike. The NBA's on strike. But hopefully they'll get together. So I won't be bored this fall. How do you get your news? How do you get information? Mostly just, you know, my home page is ESPN.com. I watch sports center. Every now and then I'll tune into CNN. But mostly sports center is my main source. Do you read the paper? No. I used to in high school. I used to take the subway all the time in New York. And so I used to read the paper on the subway ride. But not anymore. How about learning? Is school helping you or are you learning from the web? A little bit of both. A little bit of both. Some of the more technical classes seem to have got some great professors. Hubs there. But some of the other classes, you know, you learn on your own. All right. Cool. Well, Melvin, thanks for coming in to the siliconangle.tv. Check out siliconangle.com. Tell all your friends. It's a cult website out here in Silicon Valley. Great. Thanks a lot. All right. We're going to go back to the scene here. The Cloudera scene. There it is. That's Melvin from Carnegie Mellon. Did a good job. We're here at the Cloudera intern party. Siliconangle.com, Silicon Academy. This party is brought to you by Silicon Academy. And we're here with AJ. Tell us your name and where you're from. What school you go to. Right. So I'm AJ Drapathi. I'm from Milpitas, California. And I go to UC Berkeley. What are you studying? Hacking and hustling. So a double major. Business and computer science. No, no, no. Actually just electrical engineering computer science. But yeah, hacking and hustling is what I like to call it. So tell people the vibe here. What's like a Cloudera? What's the scene? I really like the office here. It's very open. There's a lot of people hanging out, eating food, having a good time. I like it. I think this is actually the best recruiting strategy I've ever seen. Why? All kinds of toys. Party, yeah. Toys, parties, video games. Chatting with the CEO, you know. Yeah, he's a cool guy. Michael Olson, very experienced. And he's Berkeley guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that, right? Yeah, he told me. We had a chat. He worked on Berkeley DB, I think. For some reason, Cloudera's got this Brown guys going on. They got two guys from Brown University. Come side guys there. They got another intern from Brown. Right, David, right? Yeah, they got an up there game. Get some Berkeley guys in there, right? Ross behind me. David is actually originally from Berkeley, I think. Who? David. I mean, he grew up in Berkeley. He did, okay. So what's your story? I mean, were you from, you know, what's your interest? What do you think of the future? I mean, how old are you? 19. 19? I mean, hell, I'm 45. We had black and white TVs back in the day when I was growing up. I'm John Furrier. I'm here with the interns. The future of the world. Tell us, what's your future look like? Yeah, I think the future is, you know, on the cloud. Like, as much of a buzzword as it is nowadays, right? I think, you know, sort of the old days of hardware are coming to an end in terms of, like, you actually owning big amounts of hardware. Like, I think that's, like, somebody else's problem right now. So I think, like, operating systems on the cloud, storage on the cloud, things like that, that's why I'm excited to be here at Cloudera. It's a game changer. I mean, it's very disruptive. I mean, for example, do you read the paper? I'm sorry, what? Do you read the newspaper? No, I only read Hacker News. Only Hacker? Well, that's online. That's not a newspaper. I think it's not a newspaper. Do you read, like, The New York Times, Wall Street Journal? No. No, of course not. I read Reddit and Hacker News. That's it. Yeah, at SiliconANGLE.com now. Don't forget that. And what? SiliconANGLE.com. Well, when you guys show up on Hacker News. Yeah, yeah. Which is pretty often. Well, we've been on there. Yeah, definitely. It's not our tech game. But Silicon Academy, our new site, is going to be rockin' and rollin' with a lot of ComSci content. So we're going to look for that. We're going to be doing Hadoop TV. Have some fun. What's your buddy Ross' story here? What's his deal? So Ross is my housemate at Berkeley. Yeah. It's Berkeley crazy. I mean, the Carnegie Mellon guys are like, ah, you know, it's Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's not Berkeley. I mean, Berkeley's crazy, right? Yeah, I mean, the homeless people are very... They add a character that you're not going to really see anywhere else. Party's rockin' here. Hey, Ross, can you give me a favor? Can you pan the camera around? Can you pan that camera around? So we're going to have Ross pan the camera around. He's the guy behind me. You can see him in my shot here. I'm John Furrier. I'm SiliconANGLE.com. I'm SiliconANGLE.tv founder. And we're here at the Cloud Air Party. So I actually read about what you're doing on Hacker News. But I forgot what it was. What are you doing? SiliconANGLE.com. Silicon Academy. No, Cloud TV. Cloud TV. HadoopTV. HadoopTV.com. We're going to launch that with Cloud Era. That's coming soon. And we're going to do that. IBM may kick in. So is it like a tech chat about... It's going to be a pure non-commercial focus around tech and Hadoop Apache. The PBS, the C-Span for Apache. Hadoop. And really focus in on the real innovations, computer science. So kind of like a visual Hacker News. Similar content. Yeah, but showcasing people. Your interview here. You look good. Your young gun. We want to have really candid... It's like sports, right? Yeah. It's like tech shop. Yeah, that's exactly it. It's not like CNN or CNBC and all that bullshit. The heroes in Silicon Valley now aren't like sports players. They're like Zuck. Tech athletes. We call them tech athletes. Tech athletes. That's a better word. We just had Zuck or Page or whoever it is. Richard McEnif. I was just broadcasting live. He's a legend. We had Steve Harris, CTO. And it could be also Mike Olson's a tech athlete. And he's a CEO at a whole other level. So business athlete. You got tech athletes. Yeah. And so you got some cool people. So the goal of SiliconANGLE.tv, Silicon Academy, is to highlight the knowledge and the people behind it. Right. And it's in depth. It's not just a feature on... I'm starting to catch that. It's in depth. Okay. It's not just some feature on some program. Yeah. And it's done. Right. It's all the time. A lot of the writers for like Forbes or whatever, I mean, not the best. They're not technologists themselves. Or maybe they are, but they're not... They're not geeks. They're not geeks. They're not hackers. They don't come to like a geek party in the evenings. We call ourselves hacker journalism. Hacker journalism, yeah. Because there's enough data in the marketplace to make up their own minds and share groups. Yeah. Right. I mean, the idea that in the old days of New York Times, a writer was doing the service for the users who weren't informed. Yeah. Because they didn't have access to information. So the writer's job was to pretend that they were their friends or act like a steward to be independent and be justice. Right. Now, look at peer groups. They can talk to themselves. Hey, do you see that story on New York Times? Yeah, it's complete bullshit. Hey, do you see Silicon Angle? Oh, yeah. Great story. They got it right and they add to it. Yeah. So we are very participatory. Right. And I think even more than that, like a good publicity is key to any sort of like angel or venture capitalist or even entrepreneur. So I think you can really provide like a service. Yeah. Well, you know, we publish for free. We don't want to charge people. Yeah. So the data we get, we make money from data. So we have a whole big Hadoop team and data science team. So we publish for free. And we have a research arm called wikibond.org, ex-Gartner IDC analysts, and they publish for free. So we provide free content and the free content gets rewarded because the users love it and we just get the interaction data and we make sense out of that and sell it. Yeah. So it's data-driven business. So you want to get in there, Ross? Yeah. You're shy. You know, if you're looking for someone to do interviews, please consider me. You're good. I mean, what do you think about Facebook chat and the Skype thing? Good deal. It's definitely not as cool as Google Hangout. Let me tell you a story about Google Hangout really quick before Ross gets in. So I just stumbled upon a Google Hangout with my friends, right? And my friend was driving down I5 with his Android tether. And I was chatting with him while he was driving down I5 with a tethered Android. And my other friend in Berkeley. And I was in the South Bay, Milpitas, San Jose. So that's three people having a conference. Driving. From totally different places. And I think it's great. Moving too. At high speed. And moving at high speed. I think that's the future. I don't think one-on-one chat isn't... It's okay. But I don't think it's really an answer to this. In 2002, but in perspective, I was doing some pre-wi-fi, extended wi-fi development. And we were driving down 17 near Campbell from a tower. We had a special antenna. And we were like, had a laptop open with an over-amplified PCMCA antenna. And we were getting pings. Like we were getting pings. It's coming back. And then it would go away. It'd come back. I mean, look how far it's come in eight years. Yeah. I mean, that's just ping data. That's not sustained network connection. So if you think about it, tethering while driving to LA or Vegas, talking to another guy. The mobile revolution is here. Cloud and mobile. I mean... Yeah, mobile and cloud. That's the future. So, I mean, help. I agree. Yeah. Thanks for having me. To me, what I'm working on right now, I'll show a screenshot, is Silicon Academy. So, what I'm trying to do is build a site that is completely non-linear learning. Meaning, topic-based. So Khan Academy for higher education. Completely data-driven. It's not linear courseware. It's just knowledge-based. Tied into social networks where if you get stuck on a problem, you can go to like five gurus. Could be a Cloud Air employee. Could be someone else. I'm in India. They say, hey, I just need a quick question. Leave a comment on their tweet. Blog, they get back to you. Response rates around. They pay them on how fast they get around. Minutes to maybe a day. So imagine how boring school is. I mean, with the web, with all that data, do you find school boring? I mean... Yes. Yeah. I mean, come on. I mean... Except for the good classes. The high-end classes. Right, right, right. And some of it, you know, is like eating your vegetables. Right, like the math. You got to know that stuff. But, you know, the hacking is where it's at, I think. What about high school? High school is terribly boring. I mean, kids are playing in Xbox. They're consuming data at a massive rate. Their brains are on fire. It's sucking in Facebook, Biturin, Pirate Bay, iTunes. Five zillion windows open and they're reading a book. Mice and Men. I mean, come on. Come on. I mean, it's like molasses. Yeah. The web is going to change that. So, you know, school won't change, but these new sites will. So, I'm doing Silicon Academy. That's a plug out there for my site, Silicon Academy. It's in closed beta, which means that it's not developed. Yeah. So, go to Khan, you know, Khan Academy. So, it's like Khan Academy for higher ed. We're going to start with computer science and education. Really more topic-based. I want to learn a database locking algorithm. I see. Over, you know, semaphores, all kinds of stuff like that. Not class-based, but like... It's a snippet. So, Khan Academy is cool. I want to learn how to solve the quadratic equation. I'm a 13-year-old. Or I'm a 6-year-old. So, to me, I'm agnostic on who you are, where you are. If you want to know, that's what's great about Khan. If you want to know how to solve a polynomial, he's got a quick lesson on that. And you get it done and get out. Same thing for higher ed, except you add a people element to it. So, we're going to do that. Like I say, you want to learn how to... I got Tom White's book right here. Yeah. A lot of great lessons in there. A lot of people want to contribute a snippet here, a snippet there. So, aggregate that and then, you know, bring in the college courseware. You know, you want to watch the Stanford lectures. Great, they're available. But when you start to get into like, hey, I just want to spin up an EC2 instance. How do I do that again? I'm not a uni skewer, right? What's command line? So, you pop into a video. Okay, cool. All right, I want to set up a web server and some MySQL. Great. Great. So, what you're saying is that Khan Academy hasn't like, changed the model of schooling and schooling is boring unless you're learning something interesting. Khan Academy solved the linear problem which is in school, when someone gets stuck, they get labeled a dunce. Right. When in reality, what Khan has proven is when people break through that stuckness, they accelerate. They actually accelerate. So, what Khan has proven with data is that when they break through a lesson, they take a completely different vector. Then what linearly would be laid out for them on a normal path. But in school, that child gets actually stunted. They get put into a different track and slowed down. So, online, you can have these lessons and do at your own pace. Now, what Khan is not doing is he's not going higher ed and he isn't bringing a people perspective. So, imagine, give me an example. Imagine if you're at Berkeley, you guys are doing your thing, partying away, coding away. You get this epiphany. Kind of like a Mark Zuckerberg moment in social network. You're banging out code and all of a sudden you're stuck. And you want to call Mike Olsen up at home. I'm sorry, what? You want to call Mike Olsen up at home or call me up at home or someone else who's a guru. You can do that with my network. So... Because they're online. Are they available on chat? Can you leave them a message real quick? You know, asynchronously, you know. You can't call Mike Olsen at home, and the old days... Call him up at home. That's personal. Ask someone for introduction. I mean, look at LinkedIn. LinkedIn, hey, can you pass on this request? I'm trying to find someone. So, I laugh at that. I mean, who sends that? It takes forever. That's like the mail. Have you ever seen people say, hey, can you forward this over on LinkedIn? You're too young. You don't use LinkedIn. I occasionally use LinkedIn. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, you're connected to someone. Yeah, I'm connected to 1,500 people. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like... Hey, John, can you send Mark Andreessen this email? I'm trying to get... I want to try to get a meeting with them. Like, oh, Mark Andreessen or, hey, you know... So, it's like... It's social con for hackers. Yeah, and well, using data, right? Using data. Okay. If you use data and social, you add more content, right? So, production. You get video submissions. And just... I mean, video's hot right now. I think, you know, I'm looking at... We do a whole lot of research on video. So, we researched video consumption patterns, video usage with Logitech just announced an under 1,000 HD unit right now. It's so awesome that, literally, the surveillance market of raw video, counterterrorism, and all over the world, they're pulling in video feeds like you read about. It's a big data problem. It's a discovery problem. So, I mean, if you're at Berkeley, you want to, in my community, like, hack our news and read it, submit something. Yeah. And you submit it in, you're on the roster, you know, hang out, meet people. So, that's the kind of thing. Yeah. All right. Yeah, it was great. It was great talking to you. Have you got a card? Yeah. All right, we're going to go back and check out the scene. Ross, you kind of screwed up the camera. Oh. Look at that. All right, let's get the camera. Where can innovation go? Whenever you see this type of dynamic change at every single layer of the stack, there's tremendous opportunity for everyone. In fact, it's not really VMware by ourselves. It is VMware as a part of this entire industry that things are changing. And as Paul said in his keynote, this is Tide that's coming in. This isn't really us. This is something that we all participate in. So, you're an enabler of it. You guys are, virtualization is an enabler of it. Well, virtualization is, you know, in some senses, the cloud and virtualization are almost two sides of the same coin. In some senses, you know, we know how to virtualize and you know how to build the cloud. And it really depends in many ways where you are on that virtualization journey. Customers who are just starting, they're on one side. Customers who have really a virtualization first policy, they're on the other side. They're building clouds themselves. Kind of like kindergarten, elementary school. It's all continued.