 Yeah, it's just a cone made out of sliced meat. It's a meat cone. Oh, so it's kind of like a kabob. Yeah, it is from a butcher. No, it's not like a kabob. What do they fill it with? Meat. So it's a meat cone filled with meat. It's a lot of meat. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Or is the cone like plastic or paper and then they fill that with meat. It's like wrapped in paper. It's still a lot of meat though. I don't think it's a standalone cone. So it's kind of like a shawarma without an edible wrapper. All right, we're almost ready. Stop talking to you about meat cones. But just think of how much more fun your day is now that you've chatted with us, right? Right. You're not answering. Right? Right. Right. All right, I gave you control, Roger. Thank you, sir. All the control that you ever want. Ms. Belmont, are you ready? I guess, sure. Have you anticipated any misspellings or strange pronunciations that I may have thrown your way? No, I'll just do my best as always. Is this audio as good as it's going to get? Your audio sounds good, yeah. Okay. Cool. Let's rock. The Daily Tech News show is powered by its listeners. Let's do that again. What happened? I forgot to turn up the volume on the iPad. Okay, here we go. The Daily Tech News show is powered by its listeners, not outside organizations. If you get value from the show, consider giving a little back. As little as a dollar a month keeps great tech news and analysis coming your way commercial free. Find out more at DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, July 10th, 2017. I'm Tom Merritt alongside Veronica Belmont, host of IRL, a new podcast from Mozilla and host of this show right now. How's it going, Veronica? I was not eaten by a bear. You were not eaten by a bear. Those of you who may listen to Sword and Laser know that Veronica was backpacking with a group of bears. Do I have that wrong? That's about right. No, you were backpacking this weekend. You were, you know, in bear country. So you were very much hoping not to get eaten by a bear and you didn't. Good job achieving your goals. Thank you. Thank you. It was tough work, but, you know, I feel good about it. I have a new acronym we're going to explore in today's show. Oh yeah? D-I-F-M. Okay, I'm ready. Does not involve dying or fires. It's do it for me instead of DIY. Do it for me. I like that. Yeah. I like it. Amazon's getting into the game. Of course Geek Squad's been doing this for a long time. We're going to talk about it in a little bit. Let's start off with a few tech things you should know about. China has told its telecommunications carriers to block individual access to virtual private networks by February 1 of next year. Corporations will be allowed to run their own VPNs, but are warned to confine them to internal use. No. This is going to stop the small ways of getting around the Great Firewall. That's, I depended wholly on ViperVPN when I was in China, and that is, this is a big deal. Yeah. I mean, corporations are being given a lot of leeway, especially international corporations. They can lease individual lines still. They can operate their own VPNs. But yeah, if you're a tourist and individual user, I'm not sure what your options are going to be. Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, if you don't work for a corporation, it's going to let you do that. And in fact, a lot of companies, if you're traveling for pleasure and not for business, won't even let you sign on to your email or use any company gadgets like laptops or phones. So that would make it increasingly difficult. Twitter, meanwhile, has added options to automatically mute notifications from newly registered accounts, people you don't follow, and people who don't follow you. These can be configured in the notifications settings, advanced filters. Yeah, there are already a couple of options, like if somebody has a default image, for instance, you can not see their notifications, but these are new ones being added to that. I do find that ignoring notifications from people who don't have a profile picture really does get rid of a lot of the random trolls. A lot of spammy stuff, a lot of bots, yeah. Financial Services Startup Stripe has announced a partnership with Alipay and WeChat Pay so that any Stripe-powered website can accept payments through those services. WeChat Pay and Alipay have a combined total of more than 1.1 billion users, mostly in China. Stripe previously partnered with Alipay for integration with US businesses using Stripe, but this one will be worldwide. Just another way of trying to get to that huge market of Chinese consumers. Very cool, that sounds like a good partnership. Yeah, good for Stripe, good for WePay. Yeah, good for them. Or WeChat, good for Alipay. All right, here's some more top stories at its Inspire conference. Microsoft has announced a new program called Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 Enterprise launches August 1st. It'll let businesses buy Office 365 Enterprise, Windows 10 Enterprise, and Microsoft's Enterprise mobility and security features as a single subscription. Wow. One Microsoft is becoming one. One bundle to roll them all. Yeah, right. There's another bundle for smaller businesses called Microsoft 365 Business that will go into public preview on August 2nd. That combines Office 365 Business Premium with some security and management features for Office and Windows 10. That'll eventually run $20 per user per month. Microsoft also launched its Azure Stack for local implementation so that you're not using Microsoft Cloud Services, you run it yourself. That lets companies buy equipment from Dell, HP, and Lenovo, and those will start shipping in September. So I'm sorry, three bundles to roll them all. That's right. One bundle to roll them all in the enterprise, one bundle to roll them all in small business, smaller, smaller businesses. And an Azure bundle to bind them. Yeah, oh, there you go. And in the blueness, not darkness, bind them. Yeah, anyhow. Oculus has reduced the price of its VR headset bundle, another bundle story. For the next six weeks, a Rift headset and motion controllers will sell for $399, a $200 price drop. The Rift and Touch each got a $100 price drop for their solo sales this spring to $499 for the headset and $99 for the controller. Yeah, so Oculus keeps slashing the prices because that's where the impediment is, right? So for a long time, the impediment was developers getting people to make apps. Well, now they feel like they're getting enough apps. They're just not getting enough users for the apps, so you slash the prices again. Yeah, I hope this will help. I mean, especially if they do another one before the holiday season, that could be pretty good for them. You're still talking about $1,000 to use this if you don't have a computer already that can handle it. Maybe you do. If you have a computer already, then $400 starts to be at least reasonable. But if you're like, I'm going to have to get a new computer and I'm not ready for a new computer, then you're talking at least $650, $700 for the cheapest possible one that can run. Yeah, barely, barely. You're probably going to want to spend more for this or that reason. So it's still not cheap enough for most people, I don't think. I know. You're going to still go for that Google Cardboard. Yeah, or Daydream VR or... Any number of options. Yeah. I mean, Cardboard, like literally Cardboard is your cheapest option. Yeah. This next story is crazy. Sunday, the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department in New Mexico reported that a Google Home had called the Sheriff's Department to interrupt a domestic dispute. You'll see headlines saying Google Home calls 911 to interrupt a domestic dispute. Well, that headline says Amazon Alexa. Well, here's why. The original police report noted that Alexis, L-E-X-I-S, a Google Smart Radio, overheard the phrase, did you call the Sheriff's and called 911. Now, we won't bother to point out all the problems with that. I think you can guess most of them yourselves. We will clarify that in case you didn't know, neither the Google Home nor the Amazon Echo can actually call 911. In fact, there's a specific prohibition against Amazon Echo skills being able to call 911 that's to prevent accidental dialing. Mashable's Lance Ulanoff looked into all of this. The couple in question do have an Amazon Echo in the house. It was not a Google Smart Radio, which I don't know what that is. What? It's an Amazon Echo and they haven't hooked up to speakers throughout the house. A call was in fact placed to the Sheriff's Department and someone can be heard on the call telling Alex A to call 911. And the best guess is that what happened is that the part of the report that said the phrase did you call the Sheriff's was uttered probably was interpreted by the Echo as call the Sheriff's Department and that the Sheriff's Department was in the contacts that had been added to the Echo when it added calling and therefore it called the Sheriff's Department from the contacts. So they say at least in this blurb that you wrote that the 911 call was placed and that in the recording of that call you can hear them saying the phrase, you know, did you call the Sheriff's? So I don't understand how that could be recorded on the 911 call. This report says that the Google Smart Radio overheard the phrase, did you call the Sheriff's? But the recording of the phone call from the device in question, you can hear someone telling the Echo to call 911. So the best guess is someone said, did you call the Sheriff's Department? Angry, angry, angry and Echo called the Sheriff's Department, neither one of them realized it and then one of them yelled, you call 911 and that's what was heard because the call had already been placed by that point. Okay, the timeline of this is very confusing. Yes, seriously. In my mind now they have two devices and the two devices overheard the argument and decided independently that they were both going to call and record the situation. No, no device ever called 911, there is no such thing as a Google Smart Radio and as far as Lance Ulanoff from Mashable could determine they only have an Amazon Echo in the house, not a Google Home. People who don't understand technology trying to explain how the technology works sometimes is too hilarious. We find out that in New Mexico there's a test market for the Google Smart Radio and it can call 911 and then we're all going to feel stupid. And it's already saved 50 lives. Yes, exactly. In the test market. Who knew? Researchers at Stanford developed an algorithm that detect 14 types of heart arrhythmia more reliably than a cardiologist. The researchers used data from iRhythm wearable ECG devices to train a neural network over seven months. In a test comparing the AI to six cardiologists, the AI performed well and even had a better success differentiating two similar arrhythmias, one of which is harmless and the other of which requires immediate attention. I mean, this is just a cool story of AI being used as a diagnostic aid which we're seeing more and more of. And can you imagine if you have a wearable device in the future that can actually say to you, hey, like your arrhythmia is behaving weirdly or you suddenly have an arrhythmia or whatever? I don't know. I'm not a doctor. Veronica Belmont is not Dr. Belmont. But it does seem like we are getting very close to a point in time where wearable devices that anyone can own that are probably pretty inexpensive or relatively achievable for most people will be able to detect and alert doctors or healthcare professionals that something is out of order. We already have this in like pacemakers. There's already internet connected devices like that for diabetics, for example. So it's kind of like we're moving into the next stages of what's possible for health monitoring. Yeah. I mean, these iRhythm wearables, you could do exactly what you're saying. You could just wear them and have them monitoring you if you know you're at risk. And like you say, if they see something or they sense something odd, they can not only alert you, alert your doctor, but potentially even say, oh, this is one you really need to take seriously right now versus, this is one next time you go into the doctor, have them check. Yeah, take a look. Yeah. Right. But again, a lot of times the temptation is like, ah, the AI is better than the cardiologist. And I've seen headlines say that regarding the story. And in one case, it does seem to be true, but that's not even the point. The point is the cardiologist can now get help and speed up diagnosis and detection. And I think your emphasis on detection is exactly right. Yeah. What I really want, I want to wear a bullet like a Fitbit or something like that that I can wear. And then if I get, so I get migraines and my biggest fear is that someday I'll actually, this is going to get real dark for a second. I'm sorry. My biggest fear is that I will actually have a brain aneurysm. Oh, God. I think it's a migraine and I won't get it treated. And I'll just take my regular medicine and try to sleep it off. And then I'll wake up dead or not wake up dead. And so like, if I could have a wearable that would tell me, no, actually your blood pressure is plummeting right now. Like you need to go to the hospital. My brain went to like, you want the wearable that says you're fine. This is just a migraine because that's what it's going to be most of the time. But yeah, you also want it. If it's like, you know what, you really should go to the doctor right at the right. Something's wrong. You should probably call an ambulance. But yeah, I mean, and that stuff is happening. Those AIs are being developed. The wearables are there. You know, we need to work out the intricacies of cloud services that are HIPAA compliant and protect your privacy and make you an informed consumer and all that. But that is even being worked out as well. Oh, yeah. Totally, totally. Yeah. I like it. Wired reports that space data is a really cool name for company. So Space Data is a company that has provided commercial wireless service from balloons since 2004. Now, you may think, wait a minute, isn't Google doing that? Well, yeah, Alphabet's Project Loon, which used to be Google X's Project Loon, is working on that. That's the problem. This company, Space Data, doesn't do it on the large balloon scale that Alphabet has been doing it recently, but they do it with weather balloons, which is where Project Loon started. And the whole point of bringing this up, Space Data has succeeded in getting one of Alphabet's Project Loon patents canceled due to prior art. Space Data has been granted that patent. So not only did they say, hey, wait a minute, we've been doing this before. So Alphabet shouldn't hold this patent because we did it first. Patent Office said, no, you're right. That patent's now yours, Space Data. And now Space Data can use it in a lawsuit it is pursuing against Alphabet, alleging the company misappropriated patents, stole trade secrets, and breached contracts, mostly nondisclosure agreement contracts, after considering acquiring Space Data in 2008. And if you read this wired story, which is really well done, it explains that basically Project Loon, I'm sorry, Google, which was operating Project Loon through Google X at the time, was bidding on wireless spectrum to drive up the price for Verizon and to force some net neutrality rules in place. This is back in 2007. And they were worried that they were going to win. And they're like, if we win, what do we do? Because we have to use the spectrum to keep it. And so Project, I'm sorry, Space Data came to them and said, buy us. We're doing balloon internet. It'll be really cheap to roll this out. And you can do your 40% coverage of the US a lot cheaper. Google did a bunch of meetings with them and took down notes and signed NDAs. And then a few years later, Space Data says, wait a minute, you guys seem to be doing what we were doing. And when Verizon, when it was clear that Verizon was going to win the spectrum, you just stopped talking to us in 2008. That's dirty business. It feels that way. Usually, I look at these and I try to look at it from both sides and say, OK, nobody usually wants to play dirty. Sometimes they do, but usually they don't. But this really feels like, I mean, I think it's true that Alphabet or Google probably did say, wait a minute, Verizon's going to win this, so we don't need to buy that company anymore. But wow, it also seems from the USPTO's point of view that they started doing things that were too similar to what Space Data had done after Space Data spent a lot of time showing them what they do. Yeah, that's the tough part. I mean, if you can prove you've had meetings, if you've got the time of those meetings and can prove what you've shown them. And if the dates line up, that's definitely going to be problematic for Alphabet. This is one to watch. And don't forget, Google is fighting in Europe a couple of antitrust cases and there was one just recently decided on a fine. Google is also fighting Alphabet, not Google anymore, but Alphabet is fighting through Waymo against Uber, and now they may be fighting Space Data in court as well. Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day, Google fights. If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, you can subscribe to our sister show Daily Tech Headlines at DailyTechHeadlines.com on your Amazon Echo, whether it's Google Smart Radio or Amazon Echo, and of course, Anchor, the Anchor app at anchor.fm. So, DIFM, I mentioned it, is the opposite of DIY. It's do it for me, not do it yourself. A lot of companies are getting in on this. There's a company called InJoy led by retail vet Ron Johnson. Their approach is to sell you gadgets with the promise of free delivery by someone who can set it up for you, which is kind of a cool deal for people who are like, I would like to have that, but I don't want to mess with it. It's going to be free. It's going to be delivered by somebody who's going to show up and set it up. Great. There's HelloTech. HelloTech sells its services that match customers with companies providing services, like hanging up your television, setting up your smart home. But they also white-labeled their service for companies. Samsung and Ring both use them. So if you go to Samsung and you buy something or if you go to the Ring doorbell service and buy something and ask for Ring to set it up, it will really be HelloTech that is powering that service. And of course Geek Squad's been doing this forever, right? That's the heritage service from Best Buy. I think I used a Geek Squad person to help me with a Windows 98 problem. That was the last time. They came to your house? Yeah. I've never had someone come to the house before. I've sent them to my mother's house before. Yeah. That's the last time I used Geek Squad, but that's also how long ago, how long they've been around. So the news today is that Amazon is jumping into this. They're staffing up on experts to advise consumers on eco devices and smart homes. In-home services are currently available in seven markets. Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose, and Orange County. So mostly California, definitely on the West Coast. According to Amazon job listings, they're hiring in cities like Tampa Bay, Haboken, New Jersey, Miami, Orlando, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas. Preferred qualifications include past work as an Apple Genius or a Geek Squad double agent. And they charge about what these other services have been charging, which isn't cheap. For instance, 99 bucks to set up an eco before Amazon voice services enabled smart thermostat. You can get some Alexa smart home consultations for free if you want some help setting up an Amazon Echo. But they've got good reviews. If you go to amazon.com slash smart, you can see what's available. 95% of the 551 reviews for the free consultations are rated five stars. What do you think of this? What do you think of this DIFM? Is it because of the widening of technology to people? Or is it people who are tech savvy like us, but are just busy and like, you know what? I could set it up, but I don't want to. I don't think it's that. I honestly think it's that there's probably this barrier to entry for the general population of people who are like, I'm interested in smart home devices, but I don't really understand what I have to do here to make them work. It seems like there's a lot of different options. There's a lot of different, you know, is it Z wave? Is it blah, blah, blah? You know, what are all these different systems in place? You know, do I need to have an Echo? Do I need to have a Google home? Do I need to have a Siri? What are those? Yeah, they would definitely say a Siri. You know, like these, these questions that are just kind of like, okay, they don't feel comfortable enough with the process and with the system in order to make that final step or they buy them and they never set them up. And so I think this is really smart. I have a feeling. I'm only guessing this based on the, the URL of one of the links, but I think they're calling them gurus. I don't see them on the, I don't see that word anywhere on the actual website, but it is in the URL. And I wonder if that's something that they're going to, I don't see it anywhere else, but I may have just missed it. But right now they're calling them, you know, an Amazon expert. But in the URL it says gurus. Oh yeah, I see that. Amazon.com reference equals gurus underscore S-H-R-U-L. I don't know what that means. Shrewl. Shrewd. Shrewd URL gurus. Yeah, but, but maybe I could see them being Amazon gurus. That would make total sense. And I totally get Amazon saying, you know what slows down sales of not only our own products like Amazon Echo, but also all this other smart home stuff that we sell on Amazon is people not wanting to set it up. If at the time of purchase we can say, hey, if you buy this, you can pay this person to come over and set it up for you. We'll sell more of them. And that is really a huge benefit that Best Buy and Apple have is that if you have a problem, you can go in and talk to a person. It's a lot harder, at least right now, maybe, maybe when more Amazon stores start popping up across the country to go in and talk to a person, but now they need to send the person to you. And I think that's, it's super convenient. And I think that if they're really going to be in this market just for, you know, for, for, for, for ecosystems and for all the other smart home devices that they sell that connect with that or don't, I think, I think this is a, this makes a lot of sense. I've thought about doing this for things like putting up a television on the wall. Right? Yeah. That's something I could do, but it sounds tedious and boring and I don't want to do it. And you know, you know, you're, it's going to take forever to like figure out how to mount it right and you're going to want to have it be perfect and having someone come do that kind of stuff is just really nice sometimes. On the other hand, setting up my Amazon Echo, I don't want anyone in my Wi-Fi is doing that. Yeah, but okay, but if you had, if you had to figure out like what kind of like light bulbs you wanted in your house that connected to them and how to set them up or how to set up all your WiIMO switches around the house or maybe you don't understand how your, your, your August smart lock is supposed to work or, you know, there's a lot of different things that connect to different things. I feel like that should be more of an online service where I don't have to have anyone in my house but I say, hey, I've got all these things. Can you walk me through a lot? But you're not everyone. You're not everyone. No, no, that's true. And I'm thinking of my father-in-law in particular who's super tech savvy. He's a freaking nuclear power plant engineer. Like he designs things that are very important. We, we, we helped him set up his Amazon Echo because it just wasn't obvious to him, right? It wasn't hard. He was just like, okay, where do I start? And I think there may be a lot of people like that who are perfectly smart, but they just like, you know what? I don't live in that all the time. I'm building nuclear power plants. Somebody just tell me where to start with this thing and that could be handy too. Totally. And I think that's where something like enjoy is pretty appealing where you're like, I'm just going to buy it from you. You for free will deliver it to me and set it up. Done. Like that's the whole package. Yeah. I'm going to actually, my, my mother-in-law, we were trying to get her to buy a very specific television for her new house. And Ryan put a lot of time figuring out which one would be best for the size and shape of her room and for the cost and for what she wanted services wise. And she ended up picking something that was completely different and way worse because they, they would come and set it up for her. And so now that I, I didn't even know these services existed, all these other ones. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, now, well, now you can just, you know, return that TV and just get one of these and they'll come and help you do it. And they'll do it for you. Yeah. And then you can pick the right one. That's great to have. Yeah. Totally. Well, let us know if you're a secret D-I-F-M-er. Or if you're a D-I-Y-er who sometimes is like, you know what, but sometimes I actually like the D-I-F-M or whatever feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. And of course, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit and submit stories and votes on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. That's how we found the great Mashable article today. Let's take a moment and check in with Chris Christensen, the amateur traveler, find out what's happening in travel tech. This is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute. It looks like wearables as a category or coming to cruise ships. Princess Cruises is equipping some of their ships with what they call the ocean medallion. It can be worn as a wristband or a pendant, and it's a Bluetooth-enabled device. If you've been on a cruise recently, you're familiar with being able to use your room key also as your pass to buy things and put things on your account. This medallion can operate like that, but it also can keep track of where you are. That means that parents can find out where their kids are located on the ship via the medallions, and then also means that you can order a drink and have it delivered to you because they now know where you are, wherever you are in the ship. They're combining it with an app, which you put in a profile, and it can then suggest invitations to events and activities on board or ashore based on your preferences in the profile, so they're trying to add some customization to that as well. It does not seem to track your steps or your calories, so you can find out whether or not you can have that second dessert at the buffet. I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler. I like how both Veronica and I lit up when they're like, and then they can bring your drinks to you. They're like, oh, yeah, tell me more. Seriously, this is the only tech, this is the only reason why I want to go on a cruise. I've never been on a cruise. I have no desire to go on a cruise, but when I heard about these bracelets, I was like, that's awesome. You can find out more about travel in general at amateurtraveller.com with Chris Christensen. Thank you, Chris, for checking in. Got a couple of messages before we're out of here. Ron wrote in and said, tech experts reviewing the Echo Show make fun of its size and talk about how thin smart phone and tablets are nowadays. I have yet to hear anyone claim their smart phone or tablet sounds better than a speaker phone. I like the Echo Dot because it can connect to great sounding speakers, and I don't care to listen to music or DTNS, for that matter, on a device that sounds like a telephone. Got someone that has listened to the Echo Show speaker with a touchscreen microphone and looks to be the same size as a mono-sono speaker. Comment on how the Echo Show sounds. Me thinks they might mention how good it sounds for such a small speaker, but I could be wrong. Yeah, how does it sound, Tom? I don't have one. You know what? I have a tin ear. It sounds great to me. Then I also, the Echo Dot sounds fine. I can tell the Echo Show is a better sounding speaker. And I can tell that the Echo Show is better than the Echo to me. And in fact, Eileen, who does care about the quality of sound and music, always starts music on the Echo Show, not on the Echo. Fascinating. Yeah. I want the look. Oh, the Amazon Echo look, where it tells you what to wear. Although I'm kind of creeped out by it. It kind of aggressively says, is that what you're going to wear? Like, oh, do you like that sweater? Are you going out like that? That's not what the Amazon Echo look does. Hey, David Baines, a Patreon supporter, wrote in and said, hey, I've been a LastPass user for several years, but when my annual subscription was up in May, I started experimenting with other password managers, which sounds insanely dangerous, but I'm sure he did it very responsibly. He said, I tried Npass and Safe and Cloud and have settled on using Bitwarden for now. I also tried two password managers that are interesting outliers and thought you might find them interesting if you aren't already aware of them. First one is LesPass at LesPass.com. It's interesting in that it isn't a vault. It programmatically recalculates site passwords based on the site ID, username, and a master password, so no passwords are stored anywhere. It has some downsides, but I find the idea fascinating. There's a few of them I've seen trying this kind of approach where it just, all you have to know is what to call the website and then it creates a hash out of that. The other one is MyKey, but it's spelled M-Y-K-I at MyKey.co. Like LesPass, MyKey isn't a vault. Your passwords are stored on your phone and a browser plug-in sends a request to your phone, which you then authenticate with your fingerprint. That sounds a lot like the Steve Gibson project. I find both to be interesting solutions to password security and thought they might be interesting to other listeners of the show. I would also love to hear more insight and analysis on them from somebody more security-minded than I am. Thank you, David, for letting us know about those. Those are interesting things. Not necessarily recommendations either, but just sort of like, hey, here's some cool stuff to go check out. Yeah, there was a post today that was kind of calling into question one password's ability to store passwords in the cloud and not have everything saved to a local vault. So there's a lot of questions right now about the, and especially with the recent break-in into last pass and some other issues that have been happening around password managers in recent months. It's a big industry. I mean, I definitely still encourage everyone to use a password manager, especially just to randomize your passwords. But taking that next level of, do you have to do a next step of verification or authentication with a separate device? Text messaging can be pretty easily phished or hacked. So that's one problem with two-factor. So there's all these questions now about what the best method really is. I like authenticator apps. I think for me, just in terms of password protection, is probably one of my favorite methods right now. But yeah, something like something where you have to do a fingerprint scan on a second device, that would be pretty rad too. Yeah. So check out, we'll have links in the show notes at dailytechnewshow.com. Thank you everyone for writing in. Be careful out there when you're experimenting with your password managers, but do take advantage of the resources. And thank you for Veronica Belmont. Let folks know more about what you've got going on. Sure. Well, the second episode of IRL is out today. It's our massive Net Neutrality episode. You know, we're really excited because this week is the Net Neutrality Day of Action on July 12th. Yeah, July 12th is coming up. So a ton of different websites all across the Internet, all of names that you've heard before, you know, from Mozilla to Pornhub, for example, are all taking part in the Day of Internet Action. And so we basically, we do try to talk to someone who is anti-Net Neutrality and who kind of speaks to why the way we're going about it might not be correct if we do want to keep the Net Neutral. So it's an interesting episode because I came into it very strongly feeling one particular way, and I still do very strongly feel pro-Net Neutrality. But I liked getting to talk to someone else who felt differently. So it's just, it's a good educational episode. And if you're curious to know, like, why we still are talking about this, I think it's a good episode to listen to because, you know, it kind of feels like we've been here before. Yeah. And now we're here again. 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Starix Squirrel says, the strongest argument I've heard against net neutrality is that it gives too much power to Google and Facebook. That is not net neutrality. That gives too much power to Google and Facebook. That's why I said false flag. I'm like, that's taking one problem and attaching it to not the cause of that problem. Strahmann. All right, Alexa called the sheriff, but it did not all the way. Alexa called the sheriff, but it did not all the way. Stop saying it, Roger. Oh, sorry. Hey, he called the sheriff. It did not. So many people's echoes just called the sheriff. Oh, sorry. We apologize to sheriff's departments across the country. Yes, that thing called the sheriff, but what? But it did not all the deputy. Did not all. Oh, I think it should probably be did not call. Called the sheriff, but did not call the deputy. Got it. I actually really like that one. Sorry. Next time I'll have it order me some. To your address. I'd be great. Even if you live in another state, three bundles to rule them all. AI makes the heartbeat stronger. Patent rolls in space. In space. Alphabet slusses are ballooning. Isn't it amazing how much that dog Tom looks like my dog. On the internet. Which on Twitter. Yes. You know, it's a dead ringer. You have like a stunt double for bodega. So many. If it's a golden door, they all go the doors look exactly like it's so weird. So weird. But you were saying Roger. Yeah. Not eaten by a bear Veronica. That's that's good news. You made for the show. And AI after my own heart lawsuits filled with hot air payments get stripes. Microsoft does it 365 on windows. That's amazing. That's amazing. Wait, where do you see that? Oh, yes. Way down there. That's good. There's. There's also. Somebody put please RT FM, then DI FM. Which I think is, I think AGC is trying to say like, you would say this to someone like, please you there, sir. Read the FN manual, then do it for me. So I kind of, life's a bitch. And then you DI FM. Amazonian's fixed your texts. And no, it won't be Wonder Woman. That'd be kind of cool. I don't get it though. Oh, because Amazon Amazon. Right. Okay. Well, it takes. Fight. And it's your to bind them on bundle. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, maybe I could bind them on bundle. I mean, do or DI FM? Kind of like Doyer, DI FM I mean, really it's not. Yeah, it's not all that. We got a minute, likes it up. I just. Now you're just doing our purpose. He called the sheriff and did not click. I do not have a deputy. Well, just make it so like, like with Siri, if I say, Hey, Siri, half the time it doesn't even, okay, it worked that time, but it won't set off other peoples, right? It will only set up mine. So, um, I know we had a long, we had a long episode where we talked about why that's a difficult, you want to err on certain sides and people on podcasts are not their main use case and service to DIFM for where people just you could randomly call the, or you stuck your head in their home and you just shout it out, blah, blah, blah, order this. I mean, it's a low, again, low incidence till it happens. If there are people still listening out there, leave nice reviews for IRL on iTunes right after, you know, right after you do it for daily texting. Okay, so what are we going to do? Three bundles to rule them all the sheriff, but did not call the deputy or do or DIFM. Uh, I think do or DIFM is my favorite. Okay. Do or different. Do or different. DIFM is the new hot market. We're bullish. Such a, it's such a about face from the DIY. That's something is chugging up my battery and internet. I don't know. Oh, it's probably Microsoft Teams. Oh, oh, that explains it. There you go. Oh, what is it? It is. I'm just going to check in the chat room. Oh, no, it's Slack. Oh, shots fired. Slack is being. Microsoft after all. Yeah. You need a bigger battery on your laptop. It's not. That's not the point or the problem. That won't solve anything, Roger. That's just an endless race. Just a bandaid. So what? To having a machine on the problem. Turn it off. Not treat the symptoms. We should also treat the symptoms. Treat the symptoms is important. Well, at some point, the symptoms get so severe that they become a new problem. Did she say the Simpsons? Yeah, I said symptoms. No, the Simpsons. Sometimes the Simpsons also get severe. Are you making fun of my speech patterns? Yes. No, Veronica. I know would make fun of my speech pattern. Yes. Veronica makes fun of me. Yes. Yes. Bellbot. Yes. What? What'd you do? You were stuck in a loop. Oh, see, this is why this is happening. And yes, I was making fun of Roger still. Always and forever. I don't see if there's any pictures of Ray. You got me thinking of dog pictures. They're the best pictures. You should have hashtagged that tweet. A summer of puppies. Oh, sorry. It's helping America to look at pictures of puppies instead of getting upset. Okay. Post a picture of Bodega and her little backpack. Yes. Do that. I want to see that anyway. Okay. It's one of my favorite pictures of Django was her and her little backpack. What did Bodega carry for you on the trip? She carried her own stuff. Just her own. You didn't make her carry your water. No. We didn't go on like long hikes like you guys were. So we would have Django carrying our water and hers. You have a little doggy cart. Take a tow. Oh, yeah. Like a little red wagon. Yeah. Don't they make them? They're like kind of like miniature versions. I feel like I've seen that. What does the Native Americans make? It's like a sled. No, no, because like you wouldn't have wheels at the back. You know what I mean? It would be... I'm trying to remember the name of it. Where is Ray Dog? She's not in any of these pictures. She avoids the cameras. She's out there. She is in the background. Staying away. She's like, no cameras, please. No flash photography. I also think they try to focus on the dogs that are staying there overnight for boarding. You know, because those are the people who are more like, where's my dog? Wait a minute. This person wants to connect with me and LinkedIn, but they say, and I quote, Happy Monday, Robert. Happy Monday, Robert. I have been following your work with great interest. You've done a lot of amazing things, Robert. Please send $20 to this address for job interview. Be sure to put down your name. You can go see younger little backpack at Daily Bodega. Daily Bodega. Actually, that just sounds like a shopping guide. Do you have dailybodega.com or is it just the Instagram? Just the Instagram. Oh, let me see. I hate, I hate, hate, that copying links from Instagram into Twitter doesn't work. Oh, wow. That's kind of cool. What's the yellow thing in that? Oh, wow. She looks so happy, too. She's got your, um, your mats on her back. No, it's just her little bed pad. Oh, that's her bed pad. Nice. It's like, I'm not carrying your stuff. Humans carry your own. She did it real good. Good job, Bodega. And Sawyer didn't knock the camera down today. So that's good. Oh, good. Did that happen? That happened in my interview with Dan Friday because he has the cone on. Oh, clumsy. Okay. I think I haven't done any of that. What? What? Almost for, I got all out of sorts here. All right. I got, I got to hit the road. Jack. All right, Jack. See you later. Bye. Goodbye. Good show. Take care. You don't make friends with salad. Oh, right. I was going to talk about Diamond Club. Uh, so Sergeant Muffin, who has done so much work to make a diamond club dot TV, what it is today. Can't do it anymore. For understandable reasons. He's, you know, taking on more responsibilities as a job and and stuff. So he is announced that he's pulling back. Now the problem with that, if you are someone who likes to watch the show on diamond club dot TV is that he can't easily hand over the source code of what's there. So either diamond club dot TV goes away in a month or so, or someone else needs to step up and rebuild something, which is a big project. Uh, so a lot of people are worried that it's just going to go away. Other people are starting to have ideas about, you know, what you could do to make something simpler. But if you are someone who knows how to build websites, uh, and, and knows how diamond club dot TV could work by all means jump on into the chat IRC dot chat room dot net or just launch the chat from diamond club dot TV and start talking to folks about what can be done also helps if you bring bacon. Because you can win friends with bacon. Some friends, not all friends. True. Doesn't help with the vegans as much unless it's vegan bacon, I guess. Or people who have a religious objection to or an hour have been bitten by the tick that makes them allergic to meat. Or you have a heart condition in your doctor's told you that cut back. Right. Right. So there are some exceptions, you know, dark redeemer says we might have a solution soon. Uh, he's working on something good. Uh, Debbie's goddess one says I don't think I can completely rebuild the site, but I have some website coding skills. So yeah, I mean, the idea is we've got a lot of folks in there who can pool their skills together. Um, and I'm just saying it on the stream here in case there's somebody who watches us on the video and didn't know about that. That way, do you know? Go check it out. Uh, not yet. Ethan Kane. Uh, yeah, by the way, I want to recognize Ethan Kane in the chat room has been, uh, doing a nicer version of our show notes lately. Uh, so if you, if you go to Friday show and you look at the show notes, they're, they're pretty. It's not, there's also still the, the Google doc link if you want to get the raw experience, but you can, you can get a much nicer version of it. So, um, he was asking me just now if he can jump in and I don't have the actual link published yet. So give me a second and I will tell you in the chat when you can get in there. Do or D. I. F. M. Making sure I get the right link in there. Okay. Description. All that. All right. Okay. You are clear for show notes. I'm out of the post. Boom. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Yeah. There's, there's some people in the chat room are pointing out there's the website, which is easier to figure out. And then there's the CDN. Yeah. Which we don't use to stream to, but a lot of people were. So, um, so if you know anything about CDNs and you want to help roll, roll a replacement for that, that could be anything about Canadians. Sorry. Yeah. If you know anything about Canadian dollars, by all means send us all your Canadian dollars. Yeah, that was the, the. That was the big thing was the super low latency CDN. All right. Thanks everybody for watching. We'll talk to you later. Goodbye.