 My name is Liz Jackson, and I'm hanging out with the legend himself, Ankhu Chali. Ni Chaliama Shali. Depending on your Nazari school teacher, ineza kwa Shari, Chali, Chalis. I mean, it depends. Venyuruna itaka. So long as duku na chana lima ali. So today we are at African Nazarene University, and you are a judge. And from what I could hear, it's like you are with the participants for about a week or something. Well, not exactly a week, but okay. The way African campus battle is designed is that we do auditions early in the week, like say Wednesday. Then we give them nuggets on what to correct, on how to go about their acts. And then now Friday we have what you call the campus showdown. Now that's what we have had now. So now everyone who performed here had already been auditioned on Wednesday. They had Thursday to prepare. And they now come and showcase in front of the university their pieces, like what we have seen. So basically that is what happens. But then over the week we also have other programs like we have mentorship. We have a bit of entrepreneurship where they get opportunity to interact with the corporates. Like now we have had Uba the whole week here. We have had Lashia the whole week here. So they also get a chance to interact with some of these products or services. Where they can also call it pocket money or something small from just being able to maybe sell some of these products or some of these services. Let's talk about the winner. What specifically made the judges settle on the winner today? Well she stood out. She prepared well. She did an exceptional piece. And of course not all of them can be winners. So at least we have to pick one who embodied the entire performance and expressed exactly what our theme is. Beauty begins with you. And of course you could actually see she is very passionate about her art. Throughout the week she kept asking what do I need to do, how do I improve it and all that. You could even see she even tried some makeup on. I mean she was not just an ordinary performer. She went a step further. So of course that made her stand out. Will you consider talent coaching? Come again? Talent coaching. Will you consider to coach talents? Like for example tell singers maybe not an agency but basically just have talents and are you where you guide them? Well I would but I mean I've been doing it. I feel like you've been doing it. I mean I've been doing it. People come to me ask me what do I need to do to improve my acting. What do I need to do to improve my writing. What do I need to improve whatever skill that I have. And well let me tell you the best way to coach people. Direct them to the right people. I'm not necessarily the best person to tell you everything. Because I mean I'm also just talented in specific fields here or specific areas. So if I know you are good at something, the best way to coach someone is to direct them to the right people or the right places or even the right institutions. Talent is no longer just things you do at your leisure. It's now a career career. Unfortunately in Kenya talent is leisure. Career is science. Doctor, engineer those are the ones who continue their careers. Singing is not a career. It's something we will just do as a leisure. But then we need to change that attitude. So that people take talent as a career in infuse business aspect into it. And then make money out of it and a livelihood. Alright thank you so much for talking to us. We do appreciate it. Guys my name is Liz Jackson. See you on the next one.