 So we're out here getting involved in the spirit of Christmas by giving out no turkey sandwiches and there's nothing more opposed to the spirit of Christmas than what you see on those screens. Oh my God, trying to shoot me to something like that. I can you kill a chicken, are you? I'm eating that chicken's trauma, so why am I going to put dead energy in my mother? I just don't like the work itself, I don't like the horn in the cast and all that sort of stuff I hate. When I don't get the dare, I don't get the trip to fun. So I have loads of soy but I just don't sleep and I have insomnia. Do you want something to eat? We're giving out food. No, it's free, this is free food. You know what? I have. I'll be honest with you, I'm vegan probably three days out of seven. Okay, so you eat plant based on three days? Yeah, like the corn, Scotch eggs and all different things and vegan. Yeah, because vegan is like a philosophy against animal abuse and cruelty. So it's like when you're against something, you're a vegan, so when you're against the animal cruelty, you're always a vegan. It's like, what you're talking about is like you eat plant based some of the time, so you choose plant based foods here and there. What's what, should we make a change? Yeah, when you go vegan, something changes in your mind and you're like, I'm always against it. You never support it, you don't like, if you're against child abuse or this type of racism, you don't just practice it here and there. It's made of plants. Yeah. Vegan. Can I take this? If you scan this with your phone, you have a free download packet that shows you where to get everything vegan. Okay. Are you hungry, mate? No, you're vegan aren't you? Yeah, we're vegans, yeah. So me and my heart are Christian here. Sometimes I'm vegan, sometimes I'm vegetarian. Oh really? And I can't stick with the vegan thing, it's not seen to happen. I can't sleep at night, so I try try tryptophan, yeah? Because I'm not getting tryptophan from there. Are you in the case of morphine in there? No, usually I have like, you know, café in the morning, yoghurt for breakfast, you know, sometimes cheese with the sandwich and then like, you know, milk at night, yeah? I can sleep like a baby, you know, eight, ten hours sometimes. When I don't get the dairy, I don't get the tryptophan, so I have loads of soy, but I just don't sleep and I have insomnia. So what I did was I got a tryptophan supplement and my leg ballooned last year and I had a big infection in my leg because you can tighten the arteries in your leg. Really? So what do you do? About sort of like, sleep with... I've actually never heard of that before. Then you've never heard of that? I've never heard of it before. Well, I just can't stick with it, you know, I try it like we did the other day. As a hurry Krishna, though, as a hurry Krishna, do you consume dairy from the normal dairy farms out here? Well, we've tried to do a Himsa milk, you know, like not violent and like same with ghee if we can, but we can't do that. So we believe in like cow protection, like protecting the cows and calves and not slaughtering them, you know. The dairy industry is rough with cruelty and suffering. So that's why I went vegan and I've done it now. I bet you have done it about three or four times and I've just not been able to stick at it. Like sometimes what people do is when they stop eating like calorie dense cheese, they take some of the calories away from their diet. So you might be a little bit hungry at night and then you might be a little bit more wired because you're not eating enough. I'm vegan like, you know, well, Maori Krishna, so what can you do? Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you talk about non-violence and there's nothing more. I feel like the dairy industry is one of the most violent industries on earth because they're here in the UK. They take the calves away and they kill the male calves on the farm. They just shoot them in the head. The female calves, they grow up for about a year and then they get forcibly impregnated and have their calves taken. After four or five years, they go to the slaughterhouse, get turned into beef and leather. I mean, it's a horrible industry. You know, if it's non-violent and the cows and calves are protected like the Vedic culture believes, to protect the cows and the calves and don't slaughter them. Cow protection, that's what the Vedic culture is about. It's thousands of years old. Then you don't need to be vegan if you're having a hymsa milk, which is non-violent, you know. I've heard of a hymsa milk, but do you think that the whole population can have it a hymsa milk? No, that's why I've gone vegan. And I think like to advocate cows as resources is what got us into this mess, like animals as resources. Because I've had the back, it's similar to the backyard egg argument. You know, if I have my own hands and we rescue them from a factory farm, can we eat the eggs? And it's like, as soon as we commodify an animal, that's where the whole industry began. Like, you see people say, all just drink the milk, there's no harm in that. Well, there is now because milk is now a product, you know. So, I mean, maybe you're not reinforcing the ethics into you strong enough. I don't like it, though. I don't like dairy. I get sick of dairy. It's like too much dairy. One guy said to me, just going to become a cow, eat that much dairy. You're not a baby cow, so you're not a baby cow, so it should be for the baby cows only. And then there's a massive ethical implication of what you're doing. I don't know if you believe in karma or anything like that as a Hare Krishna. That's why they say these wars, you know, because we slaughter in the cows. I mean, cows are always going to suffer because of it. Because they have to take the cows away generally to make dairy industry profitable. You know, I mean, I know there's these hems of dairies where they leave the calf with the mother, and there's non slaughter, but like, that's just a finite sort of, it's a finite system. Because okay, they don't slaughter the cows. They're going to have all these cows and keep producing dairy, and then they stop producing dairy, they keep them in the sanctuary. It's just, you can't go on forever like that. It's just not sustainable. Just don't know how I can stay vegan when I suffer so much doing it. You know, I get very flat, very depressed. It sounds like to me like, I don't know, but it sounds like because dairy is a very fatty food and it's full of calories, and if you remove a bunch of calories from your diet and you replace it with something that's lower fat, then you're probably lacking a bit of energy. Yeah, last time I lost a stone, and then this time I just like bloated in the face and when I went back on the dairy, bloated in the body. And even now within, since Friday, I'm already losing weight out of the face and probably it'll start coming out of the body. Is it a lactose as well, like the sugars in the milk that bloat you and put the weight on? No, milk is full of hormones because it's a pregnant cow usually, so it's full of estrogen. So that's not good for your testosterone levels, isn't it? Fidoestrogen from soy doesn't affect us in the same way because it's from a plant. It's a different type of thing, it's not actually a hormone, but estrogen from cows is supposed to blow up a baby cow really big. Have you seen that film with the bodybuilders and stuff like that, was it called? Yeah, so I watched that. There's good influences there from it. And just hoping that this time I can stick at it like I said, I'm just going to try and do everything I have to do. Well, I got off meth and hard drugs and alcohol and cigarettes and I got off heroin once in my life, so I mean, and that was something that was more of a personal choice. I mean, I was hurting people around me a bit, but I could have taken the meth and just been an addict and not hurt anyone. But when you talk about having dairy, like you're addicted to it, or you're harming others to get it, you know, I think it's a little bit more of a different situation. But if I can kick these drugs and it was more harming me than others, then it should be more of a, if you think of the cows when you're doing it, I think it's more of an easier decision. It's not hard for you to kick the dairy, it's hard for cows if you keep contributing to that industry, you know. That's the egg industry there. They kill the males because they don't produce eggs. Yeah. They take their beaks off so they don't bite each other in the sheds. If you download this little pack here, you scan it with your phone and it's got a bunch of supermarket stuff that you can get. Like, so with meat, there's a bunch of different vegan meats and with eggs, there's a few different things for eggs, scrambled tofu is a good one. There's all vegan milk, so there's oat milk, rice milk, almond milk or whatever. I've been on the fence like quite a while. Yeah. Like, I love meat and stuff. Bless you, my brother. I appreciate you, man. Take care, mate. Obviously, I love meat and I do kind of see, like, side to side. It kind of makes you think, is this right? Yeah. When you say meat, you've got to imagine what that is. It's the body of someone who didn't want to die. Most of the time this is me at a sanctuary, but most of the time they're living in horrible suffering. Like, statistically, most of the animals here in the UK are factory farmed. And no matter what they tell you, a vast majority of chickens, turkeys, pigs, docks, you name it, they're in factory farms. Now, the lambs and the cows, yeah, maybe they're out in the pasture a bit more. But they're still being mutilated and executed in the slaughterhouse. So what is it that you do then, Mike? We just ask people to, like, go vegan. We're asking people to, like, attack the demand thing. Like, you demand the slaughterhouses. We're asking you to stop demanding that they slaughter the animals. You know what I mean? It's like a boycott. What would we do with all the animals? Yeah, they'd stop breeding them. So they'd meet the demand, so they'd stop breeding more next year, and then it slowly phase out kind of thing. We're hoping, like, we get more people on our side and maybe we can do something with government to stop what they're doing to the animals, but... I feel like there should be more, there should be more, like, alternatives, you know? There is. There is a lot. I don't really know of any, but, like... I get it. I get it. You've got to look for it sometimes, but, like, for Christmas, like, Sainsbury's and Tesco's have been promoting a lot. And, like, if you go to their vegan aisle, they've got plant-based oil and there's vegetarian freezer sections. There's a bunch of vegan stuff in there. You've just got to know where to look. But in the UK, it's one of the best places to be vegan on Earth. This is a question that I had. In, like, the ideal world where every human on the planet was a vegan, what would be the case for, like, say, buying pet food for your cats and stuff like that? Because, obviously, they've got, like, meat content in them and they need that meat to survive in an ideal world where every human was vegan. Yeah, we wouldn't be slaughtering... I wouldn't agree with having slaughterhouses just for cats. Yeah, that's what I mean. I was just curious. Yeah, so basically, like, cats need touring from meat. Cats, they're domesticated animals. They don't actually exist in the wild. Like, you know, they're not lions or anything like that. They exist in our households. So, like, they ask people to be vegan first, but then if you've got pets like dogs, dogs are omnivores. So they're really easy to be vegan, get vegan dog food. Really good brands out there. But with cats, they're carnivores. They're obligate carnivores. But you can still design plants and get supplements in there that mimics what they would usually get. Because I think, like, if you have a cat, you're morally responsible for the animals that are killed to feed that animal. So, like, let's just... If you had a cat, you wouldn't let them attack another person's cat to death to eat that cat. Or you wouldn't go out and kill cats to feed your cat because your cat needs meat. You would go... Let's just say there was no chickens and pigs and fish to feed your cat. You wouldn't go out and shoot cats to feed your cat because you like cats. You know what I mean? So why do we kill other animals to feed our house animals? Yeah. I was under the impression that, like, cats and dogs couldn't live without meat. So it was just a question I wanted to ask for. Obviously, we talk to people first. Yeah. What do you be vegan while you start going, oh my God, I don't eat fish because it's cruel. I'm paying for all these fish or, like, I don't know, chickens to be tortured and killed. And they give the animals the scraps out of the slaughterhouses. So they're dead, dying, diseased animals. So they've been known, like I think in the U.S., they've been known to feed gas-chambered animals from shelters, like dogs and cats back to dogs and cats. They give them all the crappiest stuff out of this... Just all the scraps. So, like, I say to people, look, if you wouldn't kill a cat to feed your cat, why would you kill, like, a chicken to feed your cat? You know what I mean? I mean, if your cat was trying to attack a bird, you would probably try to stop them from attacking that bird. You know what I mean? No, it's interesting. I didn't know, I didn't know with cats and dogs and domesticated animals like that, I didn't know it was more of a supplementary requirement. I thought it was as black and white as... They need meat. Well, they need what the nutrients that the meat provides. You know what I mean? So, like, we need B12, but... Yeah, yeah, like, for instance, we need B12, but we don't have to kill animals to get B12. We can have a supplement. And they supplement it in the food supply anyway. So we don't need the meat to get the B12. Like, same with cats. They need terrine. And they can't have, like, carbohydrates and things like that. So they can take the carbs out and they can isolate the protein and give them the nutrients they need without the killing of the animal. And because they're domesticated animals anyway, they're not like... I'm not talking about, like, a tiger or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I always say this, if your cat's 90% healthy, all right, I'd rather the cat be 90% healthy than executing all these other animals to feed to your cat. You know, and they're, you know, like... I don't know, the turkeys that cats are eating are coming out places like this. And I don't know what other animals are fed to cats. Usually fish, seafood. The most exploited and tortured abused animal on Earth. I see animals so, like... Yeah, but people will say... So lose, lose the situation. People go, you're an animal abuser because you're feeding cats vegan, right? Oh, this is bad. This is cruelty to cats. But then... But you're not an animal abuser for killing other animals to feed to your cat. Yeah. I know which one I'd rather. Like, a house cat does not have, like, that type of moral precedent over all other animals. You know what I mean? Like... Yeah. If they're in a survival situation, you can't control it, but when you're going to the store and you're buying it, there's other ways too. You can find, like, scraps and things like this and something that you're not funding. Then, um, but yeah... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It scores us down. Hey, brother. You hungry, mate? Yeah, yeah. You want two? Yeah, yeah. This is what we'll give it out. No turkey crown, roast crown. Animal-free. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We don't want the turkeys to be hurt this Christmas, that's all. Yeah. Throw it, man. Listen, man. It's cruelty to shit. Yeah. Yeah. I was in this place the other night. You was. That's me there. You know. Excuse me. That's all right. I go for it. I think it's... Yeah, that's me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, horrible places there are. Yeah. Do you want vegan mayo? Yeah, please. Yeah. Do you want two for your brother? No, no. Are you sure? No, that's fine, mate. Because we're about to pack up, so we're just... No, man. One of it is perfect, man. Thank you, man. They're rolling out. What do you think? Not bad? Incredible. It's incredible? Yeah. Really like it? Yeah. Yeah, no turkeys harmed. Yeah. It's a good day. This is a turkey I saved earlier the other day from a farm. Hey, brother. How are you, man? How are you doing? Good, man. I'm good. How do you enjoy? Yeah, good, man, hey. You want to show them people what goes on in these farms and places, hey. Are you a vegan or you're not vegan yet? No, I'm not vegan. But I want to change. You want to go vegan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good, man. So do you still eat all the animals and all the animal products? So have you done anything to change what you eat? I've been reducing it a lot. You're reducing it when you eat? Yeah, I've been reducing it a lot. You know a bit about the gas chambers. These are here in Manchester. There's some Is this? Ashton online. Yeah. Yeah, there's a gas chamber out there. You can hear the pigs screaming from the park next door. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. It's called chulip meats. Yeah. Just over there. So, yeah, it's pretty crazy, man. If you want to take this, you should do Veganuary this year, dude. Yeah. Have you heard of Veganuary? Yeah, January. I mean, if you're against animal cruelty, it only makes sense that you stop paying for it. You've probably heard it a million times from me, but when did you start going vegan? I went vegan seven years ago. Yeah. Yeah. What made you go vegan? Mainly, I felt like a hypocrite. And I was against cruelty to animals, and I was eating it. So, like, I just, like, I started thinking about karma and that, you know what I mean? Like, I was in gangs and all that, and I was pretty violent in the gangs and on drugs and that. And then I, like, I got sober and I tried to, like, turn over a new leaf. And I was being violent towards the animals on my plate. And I was like, I was being violent towards the animals on my plate. So, like, I didn't want to do that anymore. Animals more defenseless, innocent. They did nothing wrong to me. I didn't see any good in it, you know what I mean? And look at them. Can't even lift up their own weight. They're suffering in a farm somewhere. The worst ones when, like, you know, I was growing the ones. Like, chickens, like. The chicks in the grandeur, yeah. That's like the worst. That's for eggs. That's the egg industry. Yeah. That's like, this should be the such day, right? Yeah. Turkey farms. Oh, this is no turkey roast crown. Oh, you're a vegan? Yeah. Well, here, this is a good little Christmas pack you can download if you're vegan and it'll show you where all the stuff is. I'm just a big fan. Oh, yeah, really? That's what it's saying. How you going, man? Oh, it's your new tube. Yeah, bro? Yeah. Oh, excellent, man. What's your name? Philip. Philip? Yeah. Good to meet you, Philip. Are you a vegan? Really good to hear. I started watching you and Ed. Oh, really? Love Ed. Who doesn't love Ed? Yeah. Legend. Hello. Hi. How are you? Can I give you a hug? Of course you can. Thank you. How are you? Yeah, good. Thanks, how are you? Very good, thank you. I just want to say, like, I've already been what I love all the work you do. Thank you. I love you on YouTube and that. Yeah, keep up with the stuff. Thank you. I just wanted to say hi. Hello. I'm going to meet her when we're over a month now and we're swapping everything out. Great to hear. I just wanted to say that. Good. You have inspired me. Oh, great. I love to hear that. Hey, my brother. Keep doing what you're doing. Thank you so much, mate. I'm not a vegan yet, Mark. You're on your way? How many people come up to me and go? I'm not vegan yet, but I watch all your videos. I'm getting there. So good. All right. So another successful night giving out the no turkey crowns here. People love them. I mean, there are a lot of views except for maybe a couple, but amazing product. Look, we're educating people on what happens to animals. We're hoping people make the right choice. Everyone at home, those of you who are against animal abuse, animal cruelty, animal exploitation, please, make the right choices Christmas and into the new year. The January's coming up, January. So I'll leave links down below where you can be vegan. Be vegan forever. The rest of your life, if you're against animal cruelty and animal abuse, that doesn't change as the weeks and months go on. That's something that's going on for life. So have a Merry Christmas and a vegan new year, and I'll see you all very soon. And thanks to Chef Taz here, Joey's Santa's Little Helper. Good work. Finished. Take some cake if you like. Okay. Vegan cakes, and we've got to... Yeah, take all of them. Take three. Take the tray. Here you go. Here's some information for you as well for being vegan. No harming animals.