 So much for staying with us. This is Y254 Y in the morning breakfast show. Trust you, enjoying the programming here. Time for a career talk. I'm speaking to one, I'm hoping, and I believe you have seen him on your screens from theatrics to music artists. He's one and only David Allewa. Sidri, if I say more of him, I'm not going to say more because he's someone who has made inroads in your screens and so much he's spoken of him. But let me give him an opportunity to greet you all. Good morning. Merry Christmas in advance. Thank you. My name is Allewa David. More people know me as Allewa, A-L-L-I-W-A-H. I also call myself the palace boy. I'm an artist, performing artist. I'm a gospel musician. I'm an actor, producer, director and of course CEO of a group, LA to a theatrics arts ensemble which performs set books. So I'm also a theatre and education practitioner. Allewa, I have to ask this, during the interest of time, how did you find yourself here because I'm a boy? Okay, basically, Oh my goodness. So, of course, I've been the prosecutor on Viyujama Kamani. After the first cast, we were the new bit of young people. I've acted in other programs in different stations. I was in a program called Prane Prey on NTV. I'm also doing undercover, which is in Masha Magik. I've done a movie to a woman of Obiru, right now showing in Showmax, but it's also in Masha Magik more. But as your question was, how did I come to this? I was, I had this thing in me. Fun enough, kwa familiaritu, atuna bagam de kupada atunum sayat alikua actor, ama alikua musician. I don't know that I've tried being on the cycle, I've not seen. So, we're back in primary. Apu na palini kwa inspired. I was a bit of funny, funny. I love music, funny. Baby, my acting, my funny beats, I need to drive to think musically, cut to a class. So, some other guys would rap, some other guys would sing. So, I thought of how do I sing and make people laugh? So, nikuwa na imba nga zilizopendo. That's how I started. So, kwa mata wenewe? So, wenewe. So, wenewe. Of course, nia skia nga wablani na imba wa. So, wana chekwa shaka. So, wana fanyani mi. So, I was doing that at least to fit in, but in a different way. So, in acting, it was in class eight in Kayole, a school called Jawabu Primary. Right now, it's called Jawabu Primary. And one of the actors was missing. So, there's a guy I called Jeralo Koth. So, kuna karakta apa fanyani. And that was the beginning. But musically, oh, nili na lot of you, kuna na nerobi maskwaya, whereby we used to sing for Mui a lot. That's how basically my acting world started. But I didn't really know that interkwani fanyakama kariya, which I've tried now done for 20 good years. Exactly. Brings us to the point, kariya in the informal sector. When you come to this industry, you should have a self-drive like you did, and of course you have a plan. But now the bigger question now would be, how did you understand the task ahead of you? Now that you have come into the industry, I don't want to say you went to the school of Sijini Yukasomea Sijini, yukamu asasa. Now, after going to the school of arts. How did you get to choose the task ahead of you? And having in mind, this is the path I've chosen, and now, is it in tukuna fanyakama? So, of course, as I've just told you, kwanza yuma was a primary, then I got into secondary school, high school, and that's where now I was very, very active. Very active, because I was born again Christian. So I was in the CU, I used to sing. I don't remember any other Sunday, any other Sunday I never sang. Every Sunday, from one, kwa kwa fomfom, ni kwanakayumbo naimba hivu. So I didn't know what I was doing, but unfortunately, of course, I had lost my mum when I was almost in class eight. So, niki maliza shule, my wish was to go to Form 6, Form 5, Form 6. So I really wanted to cross the borders, ni endeyu, ni kwanaski nafkiawa say. Kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa. Whassfan kwa. Ha, ha, ha. Ho himselfmo. So I went... after school I tried thinking about what do I do with my situation nakilakitu, not having a backup, ś緤ihokun, ya moziazi. And so I went to Kelvin National Theater. But of course, as you talked about, I had a drive in me that I'll make it. I had this thing in me. I always say that things to do with talent, you must push yourself and avail yourself. Asma wuji avail. Aka kama wujuwi. Alimu avail yourself. Siti wujuwi. The only thing that opportunity has to be kujia. You have to go for that. So me I went for an opportunity. I saw an audition at the Kenyan National Theatre. By then being done by heartstrings. That time we were going to get a heartstring ensemble. Right now your heartstrings in attainment limited. So there I remember before that I went for a. I went for a, I went for a. Is it kumbukumi ma nini? Aplo 10 to splo 10. Which was aplo 10. I went to KBC by then. I went to KBC by then. So splo 10. So I came up. Ehi lakini kakwa di skaring kasi kima story mi ni. I remember mama kaya ii. I met mama kaya ii then. Akani takano kana kijana. Wantakani ni ya benka kama wan to become an actor. And that's how. I didn't really go for that audition. I came back for the audition in 3 months. And from then on, I said now building up. Because everything to me is even a career. Whatever you want to do, you have time to build up. For me, I built an office. Now, I see you've come to an industry where you're spoilt for choices. How is that art? How is that inverse? Either dance, bad or... Have you tried stand-up comedy? Stand-up comedy, not really. I've not done stand-up comedy. But funny, I've been able to produce a lot of stand-up comedians. One of them, of course, being Jalango, is my product. I came from my group in 2004. We had a sleepy David who came to us all the way from Lodu High School. Swaqa Kujakwa Gurupiangu, Tunasami Kiyoko, who is also in Churchill. And Awinja, we were at Pashirangula. I've been able to make some of these guys. With time, when we were starting mostly kwenafanya, of course, our stand-up comedy was most scripted. We were doing stand-up comedy but most scripted when we were in Heart Stings and other groups, Phoenix, Evo, kuna Friends of Theatre, and many other groups. So from there, I got into now a nurturing talent. So I think we've been in the sink sana into nurturing than now myself going out. You made the choice of kuka kwa art industry. Now, knowing that hindi kitita kwenan letia unga. Paying the bills. The decisions you had to make, nini ni kapasuliyu ona, I need this and this for me to be here and there. Thank you. Now, one of the hardest bits about art talent is making people around you believe in what you're doing. Even to the hardest bit. Because one, I always say, I shall say that you as an artist, you'll have to make your mother, your father believe in you. Your brothers believe in you. They are those guys who are called friends and schoolmates. Eh, wali omoka, wali omoka kwa top kuka enda. Sayi wami, umibuna fanya wami. They are bankers, they are nini. Believe that whatever choice you made, mibika mwa kwa na ulu kwa na good grade. Whatever choice you made was the best. So making all those guys believe in you and maybe Palembele, maybe you have a spouse or something, a girlfriend or even a boyfriend if you are a lady. Making these guys believe that kwa talent na ita me. Because the funniest thing by the time we were starting, you get that adu kwa na any, it was really not advanced the way it is right now. It was really not advanced. So it, ilikwa lazimisha lazima who make choices, would you answer wapi, would you make nini. So that's what I said. For me, it were head to make up kwangaliai feel niseme kama nita kwa na fanya kitu then I have to make these guys believe. So I made an office in it. Believing in it and working day and night to ensure that I can now stand somewhere nandu mwami mwami mwa biwa I can wear a suit and still tell guys I'm an actor. I'm a musician. I'm an artist. Knowing that it pays your bill niki tu neza hacha? Not really. I don't, I'm not for saying anything to make me new watcher. Taka ma ni corona. Yes, new watcher. Yes, new watcher. Right now I've stayed for almost maybe eight months without work. But I still, in me, deep in me, I still want to do what I was doing. Paying my bills, I will pay my bills. But there's some other obstruction that is even beyond the bills. We come to maybe come to God with a matisiki past the Hinoa of God and the rest shall come. Maybe art, the rest of the design art. Speaking of which, COVID-19 has had an impact on almost every sector of the economy. So too. And of course there are ramifications of them. We can see them. But now, knowing that your industry requires innovation and creativeness like every other minute that passes by we can sustain what is Nikali. Nikali zara by the because I've seen I know the most unfortunate things that some guys are going to lose. Our are really lost hope. They're losing hope they won't be doing this again. But to me it has been a good time for me because I'm doing theater and education. I'm a theater and education practitioner. I go to schools. What people call set books. I do set books a lot. And so it means that like now schools because of now this pandemic those schools are closed and no one can go there. Despite that maybe right now we're having the form force. Not everybody can go there. So to me make what I'm poor sana to go back to the drawing board. Because I've been traveling since 2002 going to school for all those years. So to me it has been a time for me to reflect to look back and see what can I do. And so apart from that of course musical I've been producing music. Kama 2 weeks ago I've been I've had a new song. So I've also been doing a lot of discovering the bit of social media the impact of those social whatever platforms. So sometimes I go live on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram and those kind of things. So that has helped me not to die in terms of creativity. Now content na yo ikwaji is it the same things that you have been doing like when you speak of going to schools I know milkomenendaku after setting books. So say me content gani genu me kam na yo ama nileile but maybe with some spices. To me maybe I don't want to disclose a lot because we have competitors in our field. But we'll do I'll do the same thing but I think I'll do it very differently. But again of course I've had enough time again to go back to my other love that is music. Because to me I'm almost I usually say I'm almost the only artist who doubles up and do na fanya kilasiku na double between music and theater at the same time. And music takes a lot of time. Theater because it's a crowd you cannot do only one person it takes a lot of time. So it has also been a very good time for me to think about my music. Like imagine milish tukatu kumeni raitam on my fourth album and I didn't even know until I started kumeni siha wuka I have 16 songs in one album and another almost five on the next album. So I've been really discovering myself discovering what I want to do and even in terms of acting what is the next thing is it just maybe theater and education theater that is maybe set book I want to do something else. So there's a lot of things that I've really come up with. Alright but tuki kwa matua pukwa kwa COVID-19 there are threats like now everyone of you in the art industry amegia kwa YouTube kwa social media I know me sema utasema some of the things because competitors in Uengi of course yes competitors have been there but now how are you managing the the competition right now considering like everyone now is using the same platform kama ni fb kuna wa say fb YouTube waka tiktok I know kabusak tiktok waka tiktok waka tiktok waka tiktok waka tiktok waka tiktok waka so the thing is what is making me different is am really trying to to be different because the thing about the whole thing about about social media is how different you are are you a flakwana b are you a rikomoldi wana b award what are you bringing in fresh so to me I think you have to be creative you have to to come up with a different content and how you bring it on so to me like musically the guys who know me my music is a bit different my music is a bit different and that is something I'm still doing differently and trying to come up with other other good way of doing my music all right that's quite wonderful knowing that you keeping up in the industry in as much as kuna competition kuna trades kuna indizia social distancing kuna observer actually Christmas kuna kulia kwa nyumba me mpa some time too but I'm hoping when the president speaks on Wednesday he tells us something on Wednesday anafa wana kwa na meeting ato mefungi ya ati tu fungi roma kata wata tu gido kusawa wakisha ju to mefungi and we love you people what you do outside there but now thank you so much Karimbo for joining us thank you to know the history of your career in the informal sector like earlier here and I'm sure we will meet again in Fanyanga as an artist you're also an artist yeah but maybe to get a snippet of what you do maybe we will talk about how you find yourself where you are and exactly what you do so Karimbo is a spoken word artist I started my journey last year that's when I started doing poetry sorry the journey me kwa tu pwa to me kwa kitrai kuna chiangamoto kwanza right now we let COVID kwa tu jako to keep performing kwa shows but without God we are alive and healthy spoken word josengine muna pina kuchapatum misteri nawe taha watafil vibhaya pia umiwa kanyaga COVID-19 amuendi kwa hall or something but now aliwa has mentioned ya me ingia a YouTube me ingia a places inigine suzi kama kotok Tik Tok suzi kama entamuana Liko Liko umi define platforms suzingine zaku tu miya and how has it been for you Okay, me I've been using Pia Instagram, Instagram ni a very big platform kwa growing artist especially Kama Sisi to market yourself, so I've been using Instagram kuna Facebook and Pia YouTube, yeah. Now, uli amu aji kwa chukuliai kari wkai fanya, sasa hapanda unta kwa napataunga yango. Okay, maybe alongside the videos ngini zi nuna fanya nga, ni aji uli amu anata haku fanya spoken word. It's because this is my passion, I love what I'm doing and bebeni na sayo ma that your talent it will make you dine with kings. Ukiwa na talent, hakuna bila utaka kwa nyumba and you have something you can do, see must to kwa employed. Mi ujeribu kwa ambi yama yutu eni wa kuhuko kwa mta. You can use your talent to get where you want to be. Ni watu ingi sana wami twa waza zi wa o geto, ni watu ingi sana wami change like that or through what they do, through their talent ni passion. Kama kuna passion akuna kitu waysi do, yeah. Wow, passion and the words of David, your skills will make you dine with kings. All right, now Aliywa was engaging you on making the choice na umeni yambia you chose to be there and you made your office. Now, understanding the demograph of the people you address kwa ingi kwa zotu ni tofa uti, kuna msa kwa like, sa Aliywa, mi I think Aliywa na kwangapua kwa imba kuli kwa kia acta, Aliywa na kwangapua aki acta kuli kwa kua imba. This is something that you chose you want to do. How do you deal with critics? Okay, unadjua, the funniest thing to me, of course I've done this, I told I've done this for 20 years now and I want to kill them too from the start of chachil to everybody because I've been able to work on guys like Jalango, Dr. Boat, we have Kina Salipi, we have Kina Silas, Wayne Maria and many many other guys outside there, Kina asa mga mlu is a broadcaster, nilim fundisha kuna rate. So I always tell my actors or the guys I meet that talent is the naked you and you have to believe in it first and then you bring it out. Guys will believe how we have confidence about what we are doing. So despite the critic, this is me, like now we are three of us here. Karimbo here is Karimbo. No, she's talking and you have to just buy her or buy me or buy you. The audience has choices to make her then everyday. Me have my art and have something I've decided to do. Like I'm saying, I call it an office, that's why I've been able to do this. I tell guys, I've done purely theater for 20 good years. I've done music for now 18 years, I've never changed career, I don't think of changing it. But what now makes me move is because I made an office and guys know me like this. So guys have choices, critics will be there. To me, I don't really have a problem with critics, they are good. They sometimes make you think, I don't dismiss them. They make, they sharpen me. But kuna placing niya, aneza kwa miku piga na maybe wa wana takahivi. Because sometimes you have to force it. Even you are a takahimi, baka ikwe, ikweivi. Maybe sometimes you may not understand it now, but maybe tomorrow. Uda nila, kumbe umjinga li kwa nanzaivi, lakimi kwa kulem bele. This is what I like to attack. So to me, critics are good for me. But at the end of the day, I'm Aliywa. Aliywa the palace boy. Simple. All right. Karembu, most of the employee persons niya koko mo ofisi. Many times watu niya na gongana na oni bosses or a colleague. So niya zangalia maybe wa kikuwa wengi sana niwa tutano. But you, as an influence out there, it's a career you chose. Wunong ele shama milu niya watu. How watu wa kiaza kuku piga na like I'm say wa ofisi. How does that impact you on coming up with the ideas, is it a mystery or maybe we say a mystery flani kakanya gama say flani or maybe we are in a politician or I'm say too. How do you deal with those critics and the problems that come along with that? Okay, I like quoting the Bible. Webupi na say ma that. If people watu wa kiku tu piyamawe, you can use the same isoma oni zatu niya kujenga or do I call it. Yeah. So, okay, nasmaches kwa zo critics kuna kwangana ukweli ziko. So oni at the end of the day when dota kachini wone iki tu, do I really have to take it at hand? Lakin ni kwa muna jwa Kenyan skonza mafans wakone yo habitia. They'll take you up, but once you're up, they will pull you down. So, ina depend na piya vilihuta zitek. Ikona impact gani kwa lei fiyako. If the Kenyan skonza, the fans skonza wame zoeha like kuhu. Just saying negative things about artists. See, actually to shia zoeha. Watu tu wa unge wa semen shia zoeha, but you try to protect yourself like isi fike kwa hati. Nya pilihuta na piya karewa wana jwa. I also believe in a very harsh way. But since the day of John the Baptist, the kingdom of God suffers violent and the violent shall take it by force. And so you have to be violent in you. You have to be violent as an artist. Violent inside you. Siko baya, siko baya, but at the end of the day, of course, the good thing, you're born again. Wala luya kwa. Soza, mungu ni omu poda zolo. As long as you have God with you, God is guiding you. Good guide, answers, how to manuba out of all this. You move on. Now the next thing I want to engage you is understanding the market or the niche wu li kamaap, kwa juna taaku. Isafari sizi to bwa bekayangu. You came up with a group. Tell me, how has it been for you? And what kind of an impact have you been able to push out here? And what are you even doing right now, even during this COVID-19 pandemic? Okay, okay. So we're back in 2002. I came to Thetabit earlier, Kedogo. So in 2002, I got to meet people like Toyo, Will Broder and some other guys. They were forming a group, but then me used to do what they used to call straight plays. Straight plays now are only meant for public. So by then we used to have Phoenix under James Falkland. We had Kenwa Udo, Kenwa Udo doing art there and something wangi from Heart Stings. So I was there and then these guys, Will Broder and Toyo called me. They called me to join them to start a theatre group that is doing now what we call Thetain Education. That is now set books. So I joined them and after kama one year the group took a break. So kutoka apu. Eh, kwa dana kajangan kiwa? Eh, mazini mihaza, poza bunah, I had very good guys who were very sharp but doing one thing well. So 2004, then I formed the theatrics arts ensemble with my first cast being Kina Jalango and some other guys who were in that first team. So one, it's a very technical point, but now understanding where do I want to do. Because to me, again, the business perspective of it has to be there. When you're talking about paying your bills, you have to lend your power. God has to show you this what you're doing. I'm also doing music at the end of the day. Most of the time guys will say oh, si powa dola kini, God also kama paul tu maniaipiazima on that pulpit. I will eat. Okay, that pulpit I eat. So I had to work on something and I saw, I was so, I've really fit in so in education. I became almost like a teacher. Chambuha Vita buti siangamu malimu, malimu raya. Even right now, that's what has given me a chance to also be a host, I'm a TV host at KICD and I'm doing, na host wali mukuwa kwaipugami edu channel. So ni kawana patia education ni kwa ni fit. But more than that, it was my deep desire now to nacha young people. That's why like our mission statement here, theatrismi empowering the youth, showcasing role models and championing for a morally upright future generation. So because of my background, I want first of all to empower young people to tell them the truth about art, how they should go about it. It's not about the artist, maybe by the time bikuwa na ingia, wali kwa na kama artist ni waso mechangankiwa, hawa jwa isoma, ni wa to immoral. That is not art at the end of the day because wadu oto kubosa na naku artist anyangyongu was an artist, professor anyangyongu kivuda kibwana was an artist in the 70s. We have in Buga, Francis in Buga, Shakespeare, Ruganda and those kind of people. So one empowering them was to show them what they are supposed to do to kama iluwa ntonga kukusulia ma ni li li li li kuwa sisimuwa ma ni li li lila wada, I'm looking for party. So that was one and then now showcasing role models. Right now I'm very happy. After those very many years, I now have my guys outside there. I can see, I can watch yuna jalaungu kubwa wao, sili piya ko pale. Oh sabiki yoko, oh tina sila soko apun niya iya niya jaboke. I'm very many other guys I'm seeing them. I can see asal mugambi in cities and na kumukani kimplega aboretami kumambia narit. Narit na fanaivi, utambagi na fanaivi. I would tell him to go and watch some guys in CNN. And so to me that was my field and so ni kaza kuipasi. So what makes me more is when I see those guys grow and become, see their vision be. Wow, that's quite commendable. No karimbo, ha other than, The spoken word or what you doing as an artist ni ni nugi n gunumuy u me explore as a person kulika in as much as ni mi se ma micha kari a yangu huwindivu nataka maybe I have something that I am doing or what are you doing to make your choice of becoming a spoken word person or an artist rather to remain still strong. OK, apart from being an artist I'm also a business lady, also apart from being a business lady, I'm also the founder of Bleeding Scars event. Bleeding Scars event is an event that happens after each and every two months in Kajole. So when I started poetry nili pata watua likuwa. I did my first piece, people received the twas. So I nili received calls, what you are talking about. I wanted to mentor me and stuff. So I was like, I don't want to play a game. I don't know much about it. But what can I do? I have the ability to, as a host show, I invite people to say they want to try the industry. And also I invite people to go to the industry for long because I'm telling you, we have talent. Dandora we have talent. Kariobangi, everywhere, places what is in itwa, geto zikona, very mad talent. But because umeske miitwa, geto you just, umeaza kwe take, umeaza kwe take haje, there is crime, nitaibi wa wuko. So I wanted to give the youth a chance to showcase their talent and what they do. So I've been doing it for one year now. So on 19th of December, takwa tuna holda 6th edition, we'll be having DJ Sheet in the house, Big App DJ Sheet, we'll be having coconut, we'll be having the Pluto, we'll be having kina katelo, wale watu water wame toka kaiole and they are somewhere, nyu takaku wa invite wa kujewa unge, na wale wene tunanza industry, wone shelek there is nothing impossible. Nani, okay, sama nali sema your dreams are valid, was it Lupita right? Your dreams are valid. Wether una ishikwa yo nyuumbai nalik pukiniyesha, you one day uneza ona mansion, uneza ona very successful business, it doesn't matter where you're coming from. Remains me of my days in Kibra. What do you look forward to as maybe as we come up to the end of this discussion? In the long run, wukona plan gani na wone skia dreams aliwa pana wene ali weza kwenua wasi, aliwa me omok. Wukona plans gani na wasi, wako kwa Bleeds, Bleeding Scars? Bleeding Scars, sorry. Pia me dreami anguni kuna wasi nimenachapiwa me omoka, I want to na takatums like few years to come I want to see not only me, but wale wa tubadwa kukwa geto to me changio narrativeia, to me changio narrativeia, geto simple sport, uneza imaiki kwa place, uneza imaiki kwa place ene, atamutu aneza kujana atembe, na vituna feela kwa comfortable. So few years, ama few years to come na takam, wungi e kaiole na ufiluko safe, wungi e dandora na ufiluko safe. Alright, sijii kwa maniki kwa mbiyotu chapi Mr. Imbilutu apu anazo, aliwa as we finish, there is something called Suatonalysis which is the strength, weaknesses, opportunities and threads. When you come up to this industry, when someone makes a choice ame ma na takaku kwa msani, there are so many things that comes with it, from the critics, from the dealing with the producers, directors and all of you, kwa sumutu ane imaiki kwa imaiki kwa industry na kwa niya fan, bal kuna stressi zaki, how do you manage that? Okay, at the end of the day, we are just talking about that. First of all, kwa maniki kwa ni kwa encourage me to get in. The most important thing in the foundation niya kwa, what is your foundation wungi anza aji? All these guys are mongi about you see their projection lazima wungi a foundation and then we believe in that foundation. But a good foundation we have a place where we have to grow. Our group will be having auditions. We have done a public performance on the 3rd of October. We tried using the covid rules. We succeeded and a crowd of almost 350 guys came and took a final so guys are being creative. But now with the things that we have had roles that we face. We believe that set book is almost the only academy in this country that na fungshia wa to theater. Kuna, very many guys from set book. Ita chipuki zi, ita naani, ita any other person to me and zi apu. They once upon a time came to that place waha anze. So one of the things of course finance issues sometimes kumasa ikuna change to me that have been there I will tell you the kind of guys we have right now. We are calling them the millenials. Shida kubu asana ni patients, they are not patients. They want to collect to microwave. Ita omu kaleo, ita patai ita fangiangileo. I am talking about 20 years and I am still moving on. But if you think about it, you think about moving on. So one thing kwa kusaku choka. Kama like me, I am very patient, I am very na zi angoji apu paka fiki. So you must be patient first of all. Two, you must be very creative, innovative in different ways. How are you going to get this money? How are you going to use this money? My good friend here is talking about kumasa kubu fanya kuburinu maatisa. Kuna a lot of things, sometimes you have to talk to people. So you have to be courageous of them the day and more than anything you put God first in kila kitu and you put God first in your prayerful person and you be available. Things will open up for you. All right. Ima kama conclusion kwa kwa and definitely we are out of time. Okuna lines. I forgot to say ok, bleeding scars ita kuna happen. Kayole social hall from 2pm to 6pm. Na ticket ni only a hundred bob. Uzi kwa online watu okenda wataji pata? Una zani dm at Feli underscore karemba on Instagram to get your ticket. Ok, nasikuni 19th. Na auditions we have auditions on Friday, that is will be on 11th at the Kenyan National Theatre. Kama una talent, mafke ueni mu deadly you are the next big thing in this town. Come, it's for free. Just observe all the COVID protocols and all the best. You can get us on a social media platform Aliwa, L.A.B.L.I.W.A.H. Instagram, Twitter and of course Facebook and TikTok. All right. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen stage name ni Aliwa na karemba. Thank you so much for coming and speaking to our young people. Kama una talent kuna auditions inakam kuna event ita kwa Kayole 19th. 19th of December. 19th of December na entry ni so moja 2wezi kwa sa so moja. Kayole. Thank you for staying with us and keeping in tabs of what we've been discussing here. I trust you have learnt something. I'll be seeing you again later in the evening. My name is Dereva Hilewe. Good morning.