 So we're here at the ID Tech Act. So who are you? My name is Jim Hunter. I am the chief scientist with GreenWave Systems What is GreenWave Systems? Well in a nutshell GreenWave Systems is a ingredient company that means we sell business to business who then sell to consumers So we have products in spaces around IOT that include network and routing. We have products that are Partnered through Verizon. We have products that are lighting that are on the store shelves at Home Depot and Lowe's Through our partner TCP and we have energy management products that are operating in Europe today So there was a panel discussion right now and what what did you say? I thought it was actually a good good panel discussion I think what we came to the realization was that to monetize this we actually have to go through a growth cycle and I think that we understand that where we are in the growth cycle is we're kind of at the friend of mine from Samsung actually said it very well. We're at the the peak of Expectation and we're about to fall into the trough of disillusionment But I think that the what that narrows down to say that the consumers are given a little bit of pushback to what is today? The IOT which is a lot of crowdfunding companies and a lot of companies are kind of pushing solutions into the market like connected forks And what's going to come from that is learnings that we can actually make real viable commercial products And so so there's been internet things for a while, right? You've been doing stuff for a while over 22 years. Yeah But is it going to be like a trillion dollar industry? It's absolutely going to be more than a trillion dollar industry and the reason for that is because IOT is a very broad spectrum In fact, they're even having to segment it for discussing purposes for between IIoT industrial internet things and the regular IOT Generally we talk about IOT we talk about kind of the evolution of home animation smart home connected cars But there's a much bigger world in the world of sensors and sensors connecting to the to the network and the ability for that to improve Processes and improve Interactions between things and things between people and people between their data and processes That's where the money is going to be. So you're the chief scientist. I'm chief scientist and technology evangelist What does that mean? That means I am actually overseeing technology and intellectual property, but at the same time I'm also Weighing in on marketing and helping to evangelize the message of IOT to the world. So what do you think about ID tech acts this conference? This is a really good conference. There's a lot of really interesting technologies. I'm interested in here Graphene and 2D technologies. I think our key material science in general is Fundamental to actually changing the technology involving technology so that we can get smaller better faster and less power hungry things This is a conference where it seems like fundamental science is getting productized Like some of these things people have been talking about or Trying to mass produce new printer. Absolutely. Absolutely bring the price down Absolutely. Well, that's what you have to do to get it to the mass market You have to get the price down, but I mean let's not forget that it's only Only a few years. I believe in in 0709 with the Nobel Prize for Graphene was awarded and we began 2D technology development So we're not very far down this road And and there's we're moving very very quickly and I love what we've got is we're kind of hitting critical mass With a lot of these technologies because they're going to solve so many problems It's not just about making things that are more electrically conductive. It's actually graphene is one of these super materials It also solves Kind of Tiffany problems as well as strength as well as durability all kinds of such challenges get met in one single solution