 Cymru ar gyfer ymwneud yma, pan Pa, Tony a Craig gŷlod y 95? Gŷlod yma? Gŷlod yma, ond bynnag mae'r ddechrau yn ddod. Rwy'n meddwl, dyna'r adnodd, dyna eich storiaeth yn ei ddweud? Gwneud. Gwneud, yma'r adnodd yn rhan, mae'r adnodd yn dweud, â'r adnodd yn syniadau, mae'n gwneud oedd y dyfodol yma'r dda. Well, ye, obviously, because my dad never got nigt. If there was evidence, they'd have called him in. My dad told me, I was out that night, I was trying to nick something. Probably a lorry of something. That's what I used to do, I like nickin' lorry loads of gear. So, I was out that night. I didn't have the mobile phone with me. When I got home, there was a missed call from my dad. So, whenever I got back, I can't remember, so I was 10, 11, whatever. There was a missed call. I thought I won't phone him back. I'll call him in the morning. So, the next morning, the phone's rung. Now, I've got these times six or seven in my head. It might have been seven or eight. I can't remember what flipping time it was, but I remember the phone rang and I was asleep. I'm not, I don't sleep until late. So, I've answered the phone and he's going, they're dead, the dad. They're dead, they're dead. And he's laughing. I'm like, what are you on about, dad? And he said, he said, Pat, Tony and Pete are dead. Pete Cuff, Pete Cuffey, Pat, obviously Pat, Tony and Pete Cuffey, not Craig Rove. I said, dad, what are you on about? He said, they're dead, they're dead. And I think, I started crying. I said, dad, what have you done? He went, don't worry, no one knows. Not even your step-mom knows. He said, nobody knows. I said, dad, and I was crying. What the hell have you done? Turn around, we're talking and I said, I'll call you back. So, I think, I went down the, might be wrong. I think, I went down the phone box then and spoke to him. And he was saying, Pat, Tony and Pete. And I couldn't believe it. So, all that day I was listening to the radio and it was either 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock. These are numbers I've got in my mind. I don't know why, I'm probably totally wrong. It was the first time I heard it announced on the news that day, that night. Obviously the next, if they got killed at night, right, it was the next night I heard it on the news. They didn't get found till the morning of the, was it the 8th, wasn't it? 6th, I can't remember the frigging date. They got, whatever morning they got found on, it wasn't announced on the news until later that night. Now on the news, they said, Pat, Tony and Craig. Obviously my dad had got it wrong, right? But he didn't know Pete and he didn't know Craig. So, people say, do you believe your dad done it? And I'm like, we're like my sister as well. Those police who released that story, they spoke to my sister. My sister, I'm not going to say her name. And she said, yes, dad told us in the morning. Now, my dad knew about it early in the morning. My sister Natalie, he phoned me, I'll just say the name, right? My sister, I wasn't going to say her name. I can edit that out anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine. She got told in the morning as well. People say, do you believe it? I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it, even though they screwed up my life so much. So bad. So over the last 20 years, there's been two men in prison for their six boys' mothers. I know for a fact they didn't do it. And John Worms. Jack Worms, sorry. You know who done the mothers of Pat, Tony and Craig? Who was done the mothers? And, yeah, so, yeah, so, well, my dad, look, he said, this story that the free police released, right, they said there was a guy who walked down a back alley, or not down a back alley, across the field and through the back gate, right? Killed the guys. This guy was someone, Jasper, I can't remember his name. Belly Jasper. If that's what his name is. So when this story came out from the free police, people said, well, did your dad know Belly Jasper? I'm like, I don't know. I've got my friends. If you say to me, if I tell about a crime I committed, I talk about Malcolm, right? I've done crimes of other people, but they're still alive. So I'm not going to tell you their names. My dad had his criminal little, like, say he was banged up at eight. He was wanting to prove score at the age of eight. He'd done bird until he was like in the mid-20s, in and out, in and out, in and out, like I used to be, being a Wally. So he had his, I don't know who he knew. I know he had friends up near, I know he had friends further on. He had loads of friends in different places. So he loads of people. Did he ever, it meant to you that he'd done it? He said he'd done it.