 Welcome to the Getting Real with Grady Jarrett podcast Grady and I have the luxury of having on a very special guest today and that is Jaylin Rose taken some time out of his busy schedule with the NBA playoffs in full swing taken some time for us. So Jaylin we really appreciate having you on and we're really looking forward to having this conversation with you and Grady and I were excited about having you on because Grady and I started this podcast. About a month ago and one of our goals was to get our fan base more in tune with who Grady is as a person but also to kind of show Grady the ropes of what the media life is like as he obviously is still in the thick of his career but just you know for after his career if he decides that this could be potentially something he wants to do and there's no better person who made that transition from a professional career to becoming one of the media stars so I'll just start and Grady you can take it from here but how how did the transition happen for you and can you just fill us in on on your journey. Thanks for having me on I appreciate the love working in multimedia is actually something I always wanted to do. As a player I was really outspoken and a trash talker on playing video games the exact same way. Growing up in my household and around my family members and my uncles and stuff like that. When you lost a video game you couldn't just like walk off or fall asleep you have to stay there and commentate the next game. And you know if it's one TV in the house he get real when you lose a game. I'll tell you like four or five games or something like that and so I went to college for that the University of Michigan. And it was what I always wanted to do. I was playing in the league a member of the Pacers we made it to the 2000 finals. And then like 2002 I got traded to the Bulls. And at that time it was February they had nine wins the worst record in the league. I was like, I guess we ain't going to play a couple of years. I'll be free during playoff time. I didn't be a couple of BT interviews and was on mass sports and 106 and parking I had a couple of friends over there so I pitched him my idea to cover the finals for them. I said just send the camera I got the access. I had a spot in LA. All y'all got to do is send the camera. And so they sent the camera. We shot it it was wow show you how long ago was it was Lakers in New Jersey net. So this is like 2002. And they cut it they spiced it they played it on BT. Everybody liked it. I showed that to the best damn sports show at Fox the next year. And then they hired me for a segment called jamming with Jaylin and I covered the finals for them. So while I was in the league from 2002 to 2007 I was working on every outlet I was doing in the field network when it started cold pizza before it became first take TNT doing sideline and stuff. And then going to ESPN. 2007. They hired me to do MBA. And I appreciate the opportunity but I was only talking MBA because I was on the MBA show. I'm like yo I don't want to just talk about MBA is just way more going on in my head that I'm not letting them put you in the box. Exactly. And so I pitched the idea to build Simmons at Grant land at the time for me to do a podcast and respectfully, I'm so very happy to see you doing your podcast congratulations. And so many other former athletes actually doing it, because I was the first former athlete to have a podcast. I was doing it on Periscope way before. Before it was Spotify. Yeah, like breaking down barriers like putting the background up when I had, you know, the Ali summit and Tommy Smith and John Carlos and having Harriet Tubman and all of that I wanted the imagery to represent us. This is 10 years in the game and it grew from a podcast to a late night TV show to a ESPN to show. And so now we own ESPN every day and I can't. I look down at the guy and I'm like, we come on at the Sports Center. I'm like, I'm waiting to get the email that somebody's gonna be like, All right, y'all, we need to put them back on ESPN to like you got a racket on his head got ice cube doboy in the background. But it's been a lot of love and it's been a great journey. Yeah, I tell you, man, it's been, you know, me, you know, watching TV, I love it. I love to hear your takes. You always keep it real, man. I always love so I know when I know when I know you saying I know it's facts and I'm not just saying that because you're on a podcast, man. So I definitely appreciate you coming in. So you said something really important, man. I think it's really, really, really good for guys, you know, in the position that I'm in now, you know, being in the prime of your career, you were always working. You took, you took advantage of that downtime. You just wasn't sitting back kicking it. Like, and you had a plan, you knew what you wanted to do. Just just, you know, how, how hard was it or, you know, what was that thing that just kept you focused on like let me just not be comfortable because you always was a great player, but that was never enough for you. How did you use the things you learn on that on the court, you know, to keep that competitor drive off off the court and you know transfer that into what you're doing now. Absolutely. So really early, like, you know, in order to do this, you got to tell yourself that you're going to be an all time great. Absolutely. Even though you're the underdog, you're going to find a way to make a name for yourself against them. And that's just what being an athlete is about. And I got home real quick because while I was Jalen Rose and I appreciated all of the accolades that came with it, my goal was to be Magic Johnson. Yeah. When I realized I wasn't magic, that kept me humble. Yeah. It was about me. I'm like, you ain't magic dog. Yeah, but it kept you driving for something though, you know what I'm saying? You know, you know, it's always somebody out there, you know, whatever you like, you know, well, somebody going to tell you, you ain't this, you ain't that, but in your mind, to, I feel like to have success, you got to feel like you're the best, you know, even if everybody telling you the trash and this and the highest level of your sport for you preparing, you're not working as hard as you work just to make it, you know what I'm saying, just to survive, you want to excel, you want to, you know, and at the end of the day, you end up where you end up but I always tell people, you know, do your best and let the rest take care of yourself. You end up where you're supposed to end up, you won't have any regrets. So yeah, definitely. I was just outside hooping with my nephew and like, I was listening to J Cole and one of my favorite songs on there is 100 mil and I'm still on the ground. Yeah, I can relate to that so much for my life. Yeah, because I'm first generation moved the family to the suburbs. Yeah, wasn't like when I got drafted, my mother already had a house. You know, brothers and sisters were already going to private school, my family wasn't like that. Yeah. So we had to live via my opportunity to go to the NBA. And so now that I work in the media, and I have that as a backdrop. It's like, I got to continue to do what I can to give back for my people up and change the dynamics of the legacy of my family. So that's what keeps me focused and that's what keeps me disciplined. Yeah, man. It's like the more success that you get. And, you know, I feel the same way myself is like, it just motivates me to go harder. You know, even like, after I signed my big deal, you know, my best years came after that and they're going to keep coming, you know, before I signed my deal, I never made it to a pro bowl. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm just made two in a row. You know, I became all pro. Thank you, man. Huge fan by the way. Yes, man. I appreciate that. So, um, so just just that that that 100 mil mindset just it don't stop. You know what I'm saying? And they're telling me, oh, man, the guy got a song. He was like, man, I did nothing to touch that 100 mil. So it's like, you know, I still ain't got the 100 contrast. So look, we're going to keep grinding for that. You know what I'm saying? We talked about it here first with Jaylin. So, um, so yeah, man. Kelsey, you, Kelsey, you've got a couple of things you want me to touch on. So before we get to what you were talking about Jaylin about giving back. And I want to get that in a little bit because I don't, you probably don't know this. But Grady is very, very active in the community in terms of giving back. He grew up in Conyers, Georgia, and he spent in Atlanta his whole life. And one of the coolest things about Grady is his draft story out. He, he can fill you in all on that, but Grady's house burned down on his draft weekend and he didn't get drafted where he thought he was going to get drafted and it was a weekend that I think like you said humbled, humbled Grady and drove him to be where he is, but he has taken his platform and all that he does in the community with his Grady Gibbs program. I think I want to hear from both of you guys about just how important that is. But before we get there, I just had a couple of questions that I wanted to ask you. You've talked about your journey to how you got to having your own show and of course all of the ventures that you do. What has been your favorite job so far, whether it's been the sideline reporting your gig on get up, your podcast slash show that you have with Jacobi or being on MBA countdown what's been your favorite. I think Jalen and Jacobi is is like my baby is like something that came from the mud. It was like, I was watching the media landscape. And at the time, you know, there weren't as many outlets clearly as it is now and it wasn't social media. And I didn't feel like the athletic voice and the and colored people in multimedia that had big platforms were being expressed properly. And I felt like if I got the opportunity I was going to do that I noticed that I radio shows will probably have like bobbleheads in the background or helmets, or like sports illustrated models and stuff look like like that. I remember talking to Bill, and I was like, when I do the podcast, you're gonna come in here one day and these walls going to look a lot different. Yeah. And I waited like about three or four, you know months before I did it. And I just started ordering pictures. And one of my favorite pictures at the time it was like Jay Z with a gold tooth and a big rope chain. He has his box wasn't freshly done it looked like he just came from the trap house. And that's the guy that's a billionaire and married to Beyonce. So that was the image that I had up at first. And so, as we started to get more popular, the people whose pictures those words started calling and wanted to pay for him. And I was like, Okay, so we growing into something. And so really, for me, the opportunity to have a podcast is just to be free, just to express myself to show a different side of myself. Oh, Grady's doing that also. And I got a unique example for that. Right now Kwame Brown, right, you never saw him speak when he was a player. Yeah. And so, whatever he's saying, whether you agree or disagree and I ain't here to put myself in no mess years old. Okay, I ain't trying. But what I'm saying is, he's an example of an athlete that you didn't really hear him speak. So a lot of times you underestimate how he feels and what he might have to say. Yeah, without a doubt. And that's why it's important for you to do this while you still at all pro because you're not in a position of need. Yeah, they know you're getting top dollar. They know you're still balling. They're calling you to do interviews. Yeah. So now you can parlay that and say, Okay, I'll come on your show, you come on my show. Yeah, or when you talk about me on your show, make sure you mention other things that I'm doing, make sure you mention what I'm doing in the community. And so breaking down those barriers is important for us to do that, especially if we can be unfiltered. Of course, when you're working in corporate America, there's always a line you've got across, go check from the NBA or the NFL or ESPN or a multimedia conglomerate there's a way you can be professional without compromising your integrity. Yeah, without a doubt. And I think I think that's that's that's so big because a lot of guys when we in it, everybody, you know, so comfortable in a bubble where'd you be like, you know, oh, I do it out later, you know, I deal with that later, you know, and then later comes. And it's like, well, you know, as me, you don't want to talk to me no more than like, people really like no, we straight, you know, saying so, you know, I just see it outside looking in or just seeing guys as before me, you know, trying so hard to reach back into things and I think I just think, you know, why not, you know, get a fans or the people listening another, some more insight to you because I mean that's how I like, I'm for me to be doing a podcast man, this is big because I mean I'm so comfortable my bubble you know I'm saying and I know I wanted to challenge myself I know I got some great things to offer with just just being myself, you know, and then that's that's that's really, that's really what inspires me you know appreciate you man trailblazing that way. Like, you know, I didn't know that you use the first, you know, to really start the podcast of that's that's that's crazy. When I can tell you another secret by the way, my, my family has lived, my kids have lived in Georgia since 2002. Got a spot now for ready to go to GAC. Yeah, my oldest daughter is currently a junior at Georgia, my youngest is finished in her freshman year. So we are Falcon and Hawks fan. Okay, a lot of your games. All right. And just so you also know, maybe I've been to some of the places that Lou will like to hang out. Without a doubt, without a doubt. Jaylin, you know, I'm one more thought on your media career before we move on but when I came to create about the podcast idea, I got the idea because I saw Russell Wilson, how to podcast and what he's done with that on YouTube. JJ Reddick I've listened to his podcast. I think it's just and with like, you know, you see it with like the way juju Smith Schuster has made a brand for himself because of his tick talking if you can kind of make a name for yourself with something else besides your football career it just, it just makes people know you more and they, they might not remember what they saw on you on the field but they remember oh doesn't great he have a podcast so when you said that like you trailblaze I mean I think it's awesome and I think that this is the way that things are going to continue to go where you saw like JJ Watt breaking his news that he was going to sign with the Cardinals on Twitter he's like you know what it's my story to tell I'm not given this any reporter and I think that since you know you kind of started this, this way of you know players being able to speak more freely and have their own platform I really see it becoming the norm so it's really cool to hear that that was something that you know you started. Thank you I appreciate that and the other thing is a lot of times if you're not quotable as a player, you probably won't be quotable when you retire. Yeah, but this is your chance to practice to know what I'm saying like make your mistakes to craft your voice, because here's the thing a lot of people are saying stuff impression sin and posting on IG and stuff like that. The way you gain credibility ain't even by having like a lot of people follow you. It's by when you speak people know that you speaking that speaking the truth. Yeah, absolutely. Because you want your, you want your commentary to age will. Yeah, and so I can't front I'm looking back at a lot of Kwame post, and I'm looking back at a lot of my videos that people are posting about what I had to say about him and Russell Westbrook and Russell Westbrook just average a triple double for the fourth time. Yeah, I see what he kind of dealing with. I'm like, I'm glad those age well. Yeah, that's what you want. So you don't have to try to feel like you need to reach. Yeah, then you talking back on yourself and you know contradicted and stuff like that. Yeah, so you definitely want to be careful what you put out there and but be accurate and truthful you know. Every moment ain't it shouldn't be a viral moment. Yeah, you create quality content. Yeah, worthy. That's when people are come back and then boom, something bigger happening. Oh, boom, you say this and people catch on to it not not the Oh, I'm going to go into the studio and I'm going to create a authentic song with the song out and then now he put the song out with a dance. People like the song. Yeah, you can feel it you can feel it though you know just being a being a listener and just being a you know consumer you know just just media stuff as a you know away from the field and stuff you can feel when something is authentic or when something like planned and different like like and it's just the worst of being that seat when you just been talking all this mess about some or just just talking on something you really don't know about and you got to come back and eat them words man and then not everything you look like you just just blow on smoke you know I'm saying you don't want to put that on your name. And that's what I appreciate about watching you man. Yeah, I really appreciate that. Yeah, you and the fox hold off. And so just think about this. If you gain this knowledge and experience you already a smart you already intelligent new now you get in this experience. It's just going to put you in a position when you your resume on the desk and somebody else resume on the desk that ain't gonna have your background. Yeah, ain't gonna have your experience they can't call former players or former players or former teammates. And here's the other thing that people are going to appreciate about you that they better respect about players in the media. We really only say like 20% of what we really know. Oh, yeah. And that's how the other players respect you. Yeah, because they like, I know he could have said what he really know but he ain't said I rock with him. Yeah, so it ain't like yo such as such had 10 turnovers what you think happened last night and I've been like well last night we was in the a and don't do that. Yeah, you don't do that. So now when you go on and do your commentary and the player see that when they have a good game you showing them love and then they have a bad game you call them out but you don't say what you know. Yeah, that's how you get the respect. Yeah, without a doubt. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I think one of the many reasons that I really enjoy listening to your show and I know my brother listens to it as well as you're just yourself and it kind of seems like you're just sitting down and this is what Grady and I wanted on a podcast we didn't want it to seem scripted you're just giving your thoughts and I think that that's an important and it's and it's a hard line to dance but I feel like before we move on I personally I'm big NBA person I have to ask you the 30 for 30 that you produced one of maybe the best things you've ever done in terms of your media career. Can you tell Grady and I a little bit about how you got into the role of being a producer there. So at the University of Michigan my major was communications radio TV film. So I'm actually one of the people in the United States that actually has a job in the major that they went to school for. Usually somebody has a major in school but ended up working in a different field for whatever reason. I actually got a chance to work in the field. So those are the things that I do, like currently, I write a column each Thursday in the New York Post called Renaissance man. I've been doing it since September I've had Adam Silver Mark Cuban Nas Magic Johnson on the show. Katie Curry it's, it's been a terrific opportunity for me to not only write for the post and be a columnist and like to curate and create and have a theme and an intro and outro and do a last call and do a rapid fire or stuff like that. And so to do that and to do a podcast. It's an opportunity to show versatility in the game. That's what you really want to do it. And he said it earlier you don't want as an athlete is like people are quick to put you in the box. And it's like the shut up in dribble theory. Yeah, it's like, why did I have an opinion about politics. Yeah, or why should I have an opinion about being a cook or a chef while I'm a taxpayer citizen. I got an opinion because I can say what I want to say what I want to say. Absolutely. And especially if it's an informed opinion. And so producing is something I always wanted to do so radio and podcasts is something I'm doing writing is something I'm doing you mentioned the shows I'm doing. And so production I started three chair entertainment. And the first thing I did. And I got it from Tyler Perry because he was starting at the same time almost I created a play called the greatest love story ever told, and he had Tatiana and James Avery at the time he had started having some health issues so he couldn't really tour with the play, but it was on the Chitlin circuit, and I was touring the play. And the story of Mary and Joseph is basically what it was the story of Mary and Joseph in the Bible play with, but it was a comedic view to it. Okay, so that was like one of the first tours that I had. And producing stuff and I produced a couple of things for Jeep with Chris Paul. And then I pitched the idea to ESPN to do the five five doc and the thing that I really like is the director Jason air. That was his first project. He just did the last dance. So just a while. He hired him at ESPN, and then now him to be in a position to do that, or like Aaron Cohen, who's a writer has gone on to do like 10 or 12 more projects with ESPN. So like these are the people that my production company hired to work on to do this project. And then we shot it. We're really proud of it and it was supposed to have two endings. It was going to be one ending if C web did a current in a more current interview. I wanted it to be like us with zoot suits, winning the game of life mob style big champagne bottles lobster on a table like I wanted it to look like like a Harlem nights almost at the end. If he was going to that that's how like the score of the game in the game of life. Yeah, without a doubt. But if he didn't do a current interview was going to end kind of like it ended. So I'm really fascinated about, you know, creating projects. I'm actually in talks to do like maybe one or two more. I'll come back and let you know if it gets green. Let you know how we know, you know, we know you're gonna make it happen. Make it happen. It's on third base. We ain't even got to talk about it. We know what's going on. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's awesome man. That's awesome. So look, man, everybody listen, man, you step out there believe in yourself man you can be a blessing or somebody else like you chasing your dream. That's going to help the next person get an opportunity man so definitely definitely don't be afraid you know to do do with God putting your heart man without a doubt. So yeah, Jayla man I know you from Detroit. I don't know if you notice my mom actually from Michigan she's from Kalamazoo, Michigan. I get it. I get it on her man. She never took me up there man. We talk about it all the time like she still ain't took me miss my both my sister's been and but I guess I'll be working. I don't know what happened with that. You don't know what happened with that but so I know you're real real tight with your community still, even though you know not not being there all the time. Can you talk about some of the stuff you got going on there and like you know, you know why it's kind of important for you to stay in involved with the community and that's very, you know, special to me as well so if you can share with the people. Absolutely. And again I got a stress I've been having a crib in Atlanta for 20 plus years and now for read I bought one at Atlantic Station when they first popped off. I know you'd make your moves. Yeah, I salute you to Luda killer Mike but he's been on Renaissance man also. Yeah, those are my peeps. And so I salute you but for me the most important initiative is to be the founder of the Jalen Rose leadership Academy. It's an open enrollment tuition free public charter high school and not only serves students between ninth and 12th grade which we currently have 400 students, but we also support them during secondary education. That's college university community college trade school military. So that's considered a nine through 16 model. You graduate from high school is so you had in the air in your high school don't support you anymore. Yeah. So I wanted to be that bridge that felt like the eight most important years of young people's lives are the four that they are in high school and the four that they should be in college. As any adult where it goes or dreams when a rock is usually have an eight year window. And so we founded the school in 2011 and I staggered the enrollment so that I could create a culture and a safe learning environment in the community. The goal is we call it bridging the education gap. I want young people to get $8,000 from the state to be able to compete in the college classroom with compete for the same job as students like my personal student like my personal kids who have parents that can afford to pay $40,000 a year for them to go to school. Because that becomes an investment case which was $444,000. That's a real investment for the 444,000 students versus the 96,000 students. How do you put them in the same environment and allow them to flourish equally. That's kind of the work that we do. Life skills, social skills, etiquette, not just your A's and B's and also I'm really into making sure that they develop a train. So many times you don't get to just have one job the rest of your life. That's unrealistic. We're trying to get that out of people's minds. You have multiple jobs. You might play for multiple teams. That's just how it works. And so you got to be flexible with the times and our young people have done a terrific job of believing in the vision and the families and the donors have been terrific supporters of what we do. And I'm really proud of the work we've done over 10 years and running. Man, that's awesome. That's awesome, man. I got a little something going up like that. You know, I'm out from Kines, Georgia. It's like 20, 30 minutes. You know, I'm creating a Grady Jarrett team center out there. So basically just giving the people... They need it. They need it, dawg. Yep. So that's coming up this year, you know, giving the kids, you know, sports, not sports, you know, we're going to have everything, you know, for sports, but it also ruins for studying and just giving them a safe place to go to and whether they need to it or that stuff. So that's kind of how I'm going to just get my feet wet, you know, in that realm of things. But yeah, just, you know... I don't know how you do it, man. Man, that's awesome. I'm kind of like just, just, just, you know, really having your hands on somebody and knowing, really knowing what's going on, you know what I'm saying? Like, but yeah, that's admirable, man. We definitely got to chop it off the podcast and just, you know, you teach me. Anything I can do to support, like I said, I'll be in the A. Anything I can do to support, I'll come and represent, be at your spot, meet the kids, speak to them, do all of that because it's important that we support each other. Man, before I go, I got to ask you a question on your part. Because you're one of the best people in the league. And I know how this works. When you know that y'all going to draft somebody, there's an email chain of people, they might email and they might call and they might FaceTime to make sure that they're happy. And I know that when y'all draft the way y'all drafted at four, that might mean salary wise, Julio may be getting traded. Are y'all potentially going to trade the Millennium Falcon? Julio Jones. Man, man, you know what, I don't know, man. I get the night, I ain't blowing smokers. I get the little steam alerts that everybody to get on the bleach report. But I'll say this, man, I'll say this, me growing up in Atlanta and being able to be a teammate with Julio. He's been not only the best at what he do period, since he been, you know, walked with the Falcons, he been just a great model for me. And I hopeful that he can continue to be for me on what it is like when you have success and not letting it go like to your head or just always head down to work. Man, my man, you come to practice, man, as a rookie, I'm like, man, this dude right here, boy. Like animal. Grinding, you know what I'm saying? So it always, it put me in a mode of no, no matter how much success I ever have, the work got to be put in, you know what I'm saying? And just that mindset of just unstoppable and then be able to develop a friendship with him, you know, over these years, you know, he a friend for me, but he's just somebody that motivate me so much. And, you know, unfortunately, he was, you know, linked up last year. But let me tell you something, Julio Jones will be good. You know what I'm saying? And he know that, you know what I'm saying? He know we love him, but he know the business as well, you know, so I don't know, but I know that's a beast that you don't want to disturb, you know what I'm saying? Correct, correct. I didn't make sure I say that because going to the midi Falcon games, like just watching you and watching Michael Vick and watching him, like y'all special players, yo. And what you said is really important, how he always handled himself with class. Yeah. But if I was, if I had a body like his, man, I was as fast as he is, man, that's the way it like, I will be doing this shirt. I'll be doing this interview. Man, I'm telling you, man, I don't think people understand it really take effort for him to be that humble. I mean, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like that, that's to be commended. You know what I'm saying? When you like as good as you are and you can really do what you want and then you just, you know that you can do, I think the fact that he know that he can do whatever he want is enough for him. You know what I'm saying? He just trying to, you know, get his money, win some games and you know what I'm saying? So look, man, that's, that's, that's, that's who you want to model. That's the standard. You know what I'm saying? And he always been a selfish teammate. He always been motivating. I mean, so yeah, man, that's the standard of greatness. Plenty of good football ahead for my boy, man, so. So Jaylin, we know we got, we know we got to let you go. But before we do, I do have to tell you that we know that you're a big Lions fan, but hey, the Lions play the Falcons this year in December in Atlanta. So is there a chance that you could maybe wear like a half Lions jersey and a half Grady Jarrett jersey now that you've been on the pot. I'm going to represent my guy. Gee, because none of them asking me to be on a pot. He did. That's why I'm good. That's why I'm here. So now he trade his 10 toes down. That's my hometown. I didn't see your squad go to the Super Bowl. Let me tell you see the Lions have never been. We won one playoff game in 61 years. I think they'll be okay with me wearing a half Jersey for game for somebody I got love for. All right. For the last 50 years. Grady Grady, we'll have to figure out how to make that happen. Well, Jaylin, we really, as we said, really appreciate you coming on big fans of your work and we Grady and I will both look forward to watching you on NBA Countdown. Do your thing over the next couple of months. Thank you. And I'm definitely going to be at that Lions game too. It ain't going to be no happen. I'm going to be rocking my guys Jersey. I'm going to put on a show for you too. Appreciate that. Well, I think I was a Jaylin Rhodes fan before, but now I mean, yeah, like what a hope like what a smart guy what an entertaining guy and when you talk about like who you aspire to be in terms of your posts playing career or for me as a broadcaster just hearing his versatility. I mean he's doing it the right way and I thought everything he said was so enlightening what was your favorite thing he said. I don't know it's so it's hard to pick a favorite you know so so many things were just just I mean I was just just just taking it all in just just in all you know I'm saying just listen to him really really the most impressive impressive things to me was how he balances you all these different things in different roles that he had in life you know I'm saying while still having a full you know family at home and you know so so just whether it's being a producer or you know be being behind the camera behind the camera you know in the community. That's that's just you know that's he he doing the right he doing the right way you know man that's the gold standard right there and the thing about it is you hear him speak, he only trying to get better, you know, and he just not slowing down never satisfied mentality. And, you know, that's something I definitely definitely admire about him and in aspire to be you know this just this whole conversation just motivated me some more you know so whatever it may be. And I think what I like most about him and the way he is on air is he kind of seems like you're just sitting down to have like a cup of coffee with someone or just like you're talking to your friends like it's almost like he has like a level of comfort that he makes his audience feel and I think that as you know an aspiring broadcaster that's a level that I'm trying to get to where when people listen to me they're not listening to me for anything and they want to hear what I say and they like hearing the things that come out of my mouth. Yeah. Yeah, without a doubt, he going to tell you the truth, you know good bad and different and that's what I respect. Yeah, for sure. Well, I thought a really interesting part of our conversation with Jaylin was of course about his community work and what he's doing with that Jaylin rose foundation he he undersold what he's doing I mean it's like creating a school and he he actually was just back there, you know, advocating for the students in and everyone in Detroit to get vaccinated like he does so much in the community. It's incredible but I want to use this time right now to talk about you and what you do in the community because I know that you you'll talk a little bit about it but Grady, what you do in the community of land in of in the city of Atlanta is just it's really outstanding and I want to take the opportunity here to give you some time to talk about some of your upcoming projects and some of the things that you're most proud of that you've done in the community. Yeah, so some upcoming things, you know, COVID presented some challenges with things as far as you know, like, like fundraising events, you know, to go towards Grady gives that help us do we need to do in the community I think the biggest new addition to, to, you know, our team of Grady gives is we out in Kairns we're building out a teen center you know it's called a Grady Jair teen center. It's basically just a safe place for kids out there you know, whether you're in athletics and need a place to go study, you know, just to hang out, you know, basketball courts, football fields, swimming pool, study rooms, and just just just something like that just out there that, you know, just just getting started, you know, and in my pursuit of trying to find ways to continue to impact the community in a positive way. We also given our scholarships this year, you know, to work to select group of kids, going to universities. So, so that's something that we definitely doing. So just just just you know trying to continue to impact lives positively grow the brand you know all the partnerships you know Grady hospital, you know children healthcare Atlanta, Georgia power, you know, it's so many. I don't want to get mad at me for not mentioning it. But they know what's all love you know so just just trying to find out where we can you know just make positive impact and you know, whether it's you know, just have bigger outreach. That's, that's the great thing about these partnerships because you got organizations that's trying to do good as well. And I'm trying to do good. So you link up and it's like, let's, let's do it together. Change the world. Yeah, for sure. What, how did you start the Grady gives program. Can you can you talk a little bit about that. Yeah, so it really started from, I was big in an anti bullying, you know, big man don't bully. And, and, you know, I went to school was talking about, you know, basically just spread on love and just being a positive role model and just treating people nice stuff like that because during that time there was a lot of kids going through, do bullying stuff and it's making like national news and stuff and I just thought, you know, you know, what better, you know, way to use my platform as a big dude, you know, being a You know, I don't think that's a lineman but still, you know, treating people respect what I can, you know, make that into something and it helped it helped a lot of kids but I sparked more interest in other things that I wanted to do, you know, outside of just anti bullying, anti bullying I didn't want to create an umbrella, but you know, you know, whether I wanted to go, you know, visit some people at a hospital and make them make a brighter day you know or like give give some money and food here to fund this event whatever may be or to feed a homeless here or give some kids gifts here and I really just, I mean, I wanted to create an umbrella to where, you know, greatly gives you know it don't say greatly gives this great to give that great to get what you need, you know, I'm saying If you need to talk, you know, I'm saying you need some motivation, you know, you got to get out of dark place, you know, I'm saying just just whatever it may be, you know, I think God has blessed me to have a, you know, ability to communicate with people and just use my story to help motivate somebody else. You know what I'm saying, and the user things that I go through in my life is motivation for the next person, you know, everything I go through, you know, everything, you know, it's not all, you know, all good, you know, and you don't always see the pitfalls that people have. But you can take those, you know, dark moments, you know, that you spend your darker time and make light to somebody else. And that's what really gives us about so. So, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's what it is. That's awesome. Hey, you know, podcast is you given back to because there's there's a lot of people that are listening to this that are fans of yours that, you know, they see the way that you're handling your life and I'm sure it motivates them to be just like you. So I have an idea why don't we, whenever the Grady Jarrett teen center comes out we'll take the podcast on the road and we can show off the teen center on the pod. Without a doubt, gotta do that. Definitely got to do that. You know what I'm saying, but, but just be able to have people listen to you, you know, whether I used to tell people that I was like nervous, also like talking to crowds because I always wasn't wasn't the most comfortable whether it's like public speaking or whatever maybe if you say things, you know, you worry about everybody catching the message and you want to impress everybody will do this. If you say one thing that impress one person out the crowd, man, you could change your life forever. You know, I'm saying you go but you're gonna say things that impress more than just one person or but if you know, podcasts is for you know, people to take what they take from it, you know, apply to the lives however they mean, maybe you know, everybody on here not a football fan everybody on here not not an athlete everybody you know, but you can take something from the podcast and apply to whatever you into you know I'm saying so. So yeah, you like it. Awesome you know I'm saying if you not for you not for you know I'm saying so that's that's that's what I like about podcasts is just so to be real on here you know just just getting ready with Grady Jarrett. All right, I feel like that's the perfect ending for us. Grady, appreciate your time as always and looking forward to hop and back on the pod with you next week. Let's do it. Let's do it.