 And we're live. And what you're looking at is a foosie pet bed. And you say what? A pet bed? I know. You have a pet and the pet likes to sleep on your bed, right? Well, I have good news for you. We've got the manufacturer of foosie pet beds here joining us today to talk all things pet hair. And I'm really, really excited to have this conversation. So please help me welcome Christine Lee from Foosie Pet Beds while we have a conversation about why your pet needs a bed and why now is the time to get one instead of waiting until later. So Christine, hello and welcome. Hello, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Well, I'm excited too because we have a lot of questions that come in on a regular basis. And I'm going to ask everybody that's joining us today, if you have questions, this is the time to ask them about pet hair, about pet beds, about how and the reasons why you would want to have a pet bed for your dog instead of having your dog sleep with you in your bed. So this is that conversation. Oh, I'm so excited. All right. So I have a question. It's unique that somebody would dedicate their whole entire life now to creating a pet bed. And I know you're really, really passionate about pets. Share with me a little bit about who you are and how you got into this space and why the pet bed. Yes, it is true. My life is now dedicated and fully revolved around pets and beds. So I, back in the summer of love, somewhere in the late 70s, I was a little two-year-old with nine Samoid puppies around me. So you can say this has been brewing for a very long time. And if you know Samoids and you know that breed, they have a lot of hair. So I've been thinking about pets and dog beds and pet hair for a really long time. I went on, went to college, took a break from dogs, and got into, I was in retail for a long time, about 20 years in corporate retail. And a couple of years ago, I just knew it was time to start my own business. And when I really thought in my heart about what I really care about, it's making long-lasting, beautiful things that stay in your life for a really long time. They serve a purpose, really well-built. And if I could combine that with the love of dogs that I knew, I've got a path that I could look back on. And that's where I wanna be in five years. That's what I wanna be doing. So it's time to... Well, I love this because many people consider their pets a member of their family, like a child. And they love them as much as they love their children in many homes. And to treat a dog with respect to give them their own space is not only a good training technique, but it also allows them to have their own privacy instead of just kind of like taking over your personal bed or what have you. And I know in a lot of families, there are members of the family that will have pet dander, allergies and things like that. So having a special place for a pet is not only a good hygienic thing, but it also gives both the pet their space and it gives the person their space. So I absolutely love that. Yeah, and it's really helpful also in when I started working from home. So when we're home during the pandemic and of course, the dogs loved that. And in the office, they would wanna come in and be in the office with me. And so the fuzzy pet bed has been amazing because one of my dogs loves to sit on the window. She's got a survey, she has to see what's going on. And so it gives her this perfect elevated spot and that's where she sits while I'm working. So we're kind of coexisting happily together because she's got a spot. I love that. I wanna stop for just a second and say hi to everybody. We have Joyce says, hi, Joyce. She says, I have three large dogs that shed. It's tumbleweeds of fur if I don't keep up. I know that's awesome. That's how it goes. Sister D says, hi, I caught you live. Hello, I'm so glad you caught me live. This is awesome. Kelly Lin says, hi, Angela, you're the best. Thank you so much. I've learned a lot from you. That's so sweet. Thank you so much. And we have Ag Nub saying, hello ladies. It's ammonium bleach for clothes effective in removing stains. That is a great question and probably not in today's conversation. So I'm gonna answer those questions in the comments after the show is over when I can give those the attention they deserve. So hello and thank you so much for joining us today. We've got Lizzie that says, hi. We have Mike that said, hi, everyone. So you guys, this is awesome. I'm super excited to join me today. So I'm curious, let's start from the very beginning. So you have a dog or you have multiple dogs and if you have multiple dogs you need multiple dog beds. How does that work? You gotta buy multiple beds. You know, we do have, we do, we do. Most dog owners, I think if you talk to them, they do, they have one in the living room. They've got one in maybe their office if they work from home and spend a lot of time in there. They have one in the bedroom. So we do have a few spots around the house. Obviously now we've got a lot of dog beds. But I'd say, you know, if a lot of people tell me I can't get my dog off my bed. And A, I think it's because you probably, they like it. You know, they like snuggling with their dog. And we actually have, we have two dogs. One that really loves her bed and one and the other one who unfortunately has more hair loves laying on our bed at night. He usually starts on the ground and he ends up there. So what we have is a really good dog blanket. And that I would really recommend. So if your dog is going on your bed, you wanna get a pet blanket that has a waterproof layer in the middle. And there's ones that are better than others, but you just want, you want that. And if it has a little bit of faux fur, which is what our beds are made out of, that kind of catches their hair. And you just gotta make sure that it's machine washable. And that will just kind of help get the dog hair off of your actual bed, either Comforter or Duvet. Now I always have, and I wanted to talk to you about this, about my favorite color for pet products. And it's maybe not what you would expect, but it's white. And around that, you know, bleach question, it's because of that. You can wash it in hot water. You can bleach it if you need to. So we have a Duvet on our bed and it's white. So in the event that the, you know, the dog blanket scoots away and there's a little bit of dirt on the bed, we can just take that, take the Duvet off and then we wash it or re-bleach it. White, okay, I did not see that coming, but that's fascinating. Yeah, actually it's our best selling color for our dog, for the Fusy Bed, white is our best selling color. Is it because you can see the dog hair on it? If you have like a brown or a black kind of dog, or you have the- It may be the aesthetic of it, people like it, but you can take the cover off of it. That's the main feature of the bed is that you take the cover off and then you can wash it or you can bleach it and it can, you know, it can stay as good as new. And so for those of you that are just joining us, we're talking to Chris Lee about the Fusy Pet Bed, which is a brand new philosophy of having a dog. I mean, instead of just throwing the dog on a little blanket on the floor, we give the dog its own bed, right? We're treating the dog with respect of like being the family member and giving them their own bed. And for those of you that are just joining us, I would love to show you a picture of this so you can see what the dog bed looks like. And this is one of those white dog beds that is sitting up on an elevated frame so that the dog can then still reach it by themselves, but then also have the comfort of a dog bed, but kind of like a people bed on a frame. I love this. It is a piece of furniture. So when I started developing this product, I didn't reach out to factories who make pet beds. I worked with factories that make furniture. So the whole pet bed, it's on a raised platform that has this very top mesh piece that's in the middle of it that the top of the bed attaches to. And that can hold a human and a dog. So you can sit in there with it. It actually, it's kind of like an ottoman. So you can, it holds people as well as pets. Oh, interesting. That's awesome. Okay, so walk me through the process. When you guys are making a bed, what is the process of making a bed and how does it all work? I know that you guys have a program where if like a part needs replacement or something that you guys include that as part of your package. Like tell me all about how it works. Yeah, so I think you've got to think about what are you trying to solve? You know, that's it. What are you trying to solve? How do you, I love making things that are just a little bit better. You know, how can we make a typical dog bed better? Now elevated, there's, so starting with just the concept of an elevated pet bed. So there are elevated pet beds all over. That's not a new concept, but they're very, they're sort of, they look like, they look in it, they don't look like decor items. They're very, they're just utilitarian. They look like they could maybe be outside. They don't look like you would be, they don't really fit in with living, typical living room furniture. They usually made a big white plastic piping kind of thing. Right. So, and they're very popular dogs do like them. But, and there's nothing comfortable about them. They're very like, some dogs like them for cooling, but there's no cushiony. There's no like, you know, the dogs love that bolster top. You know, our beds kind of swoop like this because they love to put their head on it like this. So this is the concept of how I could combine a super comfortable supportive bed with this nice warm faux fur all over it with the support and the elevation of an elevated pet bed. So that was kind of the initial concept. And then, you know, I go back to this hating to throw things away. I hate waste. I'm really not a wasteful person. And I really, whatever I, I like buying nice things and making sure that they last. And so I really wanted, it was very important to me to make a bed where if one part fails for some reason or, you know, some dog kind of goes out one part of it. And it's the whole thing is not to be thrown away. We can give you replacement parts, everything that comes in pieces. So there's five pillows that make up the top of the bed and then you have the cover. Yeah, the five independent pillows. And it was also important to me that the center pillow was not a separate piece because as you know, just like in your couches if you have a separate cushion, there's just play, it's just, it's just fodder for crumbs and other things. Right, stuff falling through the cracks, right. Falling through those cracks. So we didn't want that. So it's one piece, the actual, the cushion for the base slides in from the underneath. So there's only one piece to the cover and you can't get underneath that base piece. And then the platform is also made of, it's really easy to assemble, but it's, you know, so if for some reason the mesh gets chewed up for some reason, we can replace just the mesh and then you have a brand new bed. So yeah, but replacement parts, we call it now, we're calling it our Fusy Refresh Program. So if you buy a bed, you can rest assured that any piece can be replaced. I love that. All right, so if you were gonna clean the Fusy Pet Bed, how would you go about cleaning it? So, do you vacuum it out? Like with a vacuum attachment? Like we do so- Well, since it's elevated, you can vacuum underneath it. So yeah, as most pet owners know, the thing you cannot live without is a good vacuum. So we did, when we got our big white dog, we got a Dyson and we use it all the time. So you can just reach underneath there and vacuum underneath it. And then when you wanna clean the top of the bed, you can just, you unzip it, take the cushions out and you can wash it, it's machine washable. And then you can put it in the dryer as well, just on fluff mode or very low heat. And then it's as good as new. And when you put that inside the dryer, do you put like a tennis ball or a dryer ball or something in with that to help keep it fluffy? You don't need to. Not necessary. Yeah, I've tested it, I've tested it a bunch of times. Yeah, as long as you're on fluff mode or low heat, it, the fur turns out just beautifully. Interesting. Okay, cool. And when you're washing it, is there any specific kind of detergent that you would use in order to wash it to make the, I don't know, any odors or smell go away? Somebody here mentioned a smell about cat pee. What are the tips to get rid of cat pee? And I'm assuming that it's possible there could be a cat that pees in one of these and then how do you get rid of that? Would you use vinegar or something as you're washing? I think that's a good idea. I think there's some of those more kind of homeopathic things that you can do. I would say use the cleaner that you're most comfortable with for your carpets or detergent. If pets are sensitive, they have skin sensitivity that I would use what you would use for babies. There are those very clean types of detergents. So I just use what we use for us. Like we use tide, I put used tide and it works out fine. I think, again, I think if you have a dog or a cat that you're a little bit worried about, I would get white because then you can always bleach it. One of the things that we use in house cleaning for cleaning business owners that are inside people's homes and they're trying to remove those cat pee smells and dog smells and things like that, we use otoban bio stain remover and it's a stain and odor remover that actually has enzymes that eat up the smells. And so it's a clear product and it doesn't have a smell, but it eats up smells. And so if there is a product, I don't know if there's an item in the house or something that has cat pee on it or even if there's cat pee on the carpet or something like that, you can spray it and use just the dabbing method where you take like a paper towel that's clear that doesn't have any dyed inks on it or whatever, spray it and then dab it up. And that's gonna remove a lot of the smells and then the enzymes will help eat those odors up. So pre-treating it, I think would be a great idea. And then also if you're gonna put it inside the washing machine, like Chris said, if you're using a detergent that's a mild detergent that doesn't have any dyes and colors in it and scents maybe, if you just get something that's really neutral, that way it's not gonna affect any sensitivities that the pet may have. So I love that question, great question there. Okay, so I know that, and this is kind of a sidebar but I know that you did a deal with, I think it was the James Hotel. Yeah, so tell us about that, like there are hotels now that are carrying your pet beds. I mean, like this is fancy stuff. Yeah, this is exciting on many levels. I mean, if you've traveled with the pet before, you know, in the past, you really had to search to, you know, I remember my parents traveling and they were always staying at Laquintas because they are dog friendly. And now it's much more prevalent to travel with your dog and there's many, many, many hotels that allow it, which is so great. And we were doing a pop-up shop in New York and we were lucky enough to have a person who works at the James, stop by and see our beds and it started getting her brewing on their pet programming and how they could offer a little bit more to their guests with pets. And so they started carrying our beds for that purpose and it's been great. It wasn't necessarily a path I thought we would take. It was kind of an interesting use case and we're excited about it. I mean, they are very durable, so it makes sense. And like I said, they're easy to wash and clean. So it makes sense for hotels. So the other, it's a very, it's a really cute boutique hotel in Midtown Manhattan. Have you had the experience where there are, I don't know the right way to say this, but I want to say seniors who have a problem bending over to pick up their pets and you have little tiny dogs that are also senior dogs that they have a hard time like climbing up onto the couch to be with their owner. And I'm seeing that this as an in-between step where the dog can get up into it and the owner can also get to their dog and it would be a little bit easier for both parties as they get older. Yeah, definitely. And there's a product that we have in development that is a little stair step to it. So some dashhounds have no problem and other dashhounds have a little, as an example, have a little bit of a hard time jumping up. Most dogs are totally fine. It's only 10 inches off the ground. So it's typically very easy for dogs to jump in but there are certain breeds and certainly some older dogs might have trouble with it. So stairs definitely help. And there's a lot of, there's ramps out there too for dogs to help them get into things that could help them with the foosie bed. But yeah, rather than bending all the way over it sure is much easier when they're elevated like that. Well, I know that in the cleaning industry we have lots of clients who have reached a certain age and they're using the pets as comfort pets or as emotional support animals and what have you. And the frustration is that the dogs are not able to jump all the way up on the couch and then the owners are not able to go all the way down to the ground and pick them up. So I see this as a really happy medium in between where we're both can kind of meet each other halfway. So I think that's awesome. Yeah, I always, I just imagine like you're sitting on the couch and your dog is just right there instead of reaching all the way down to pet your dog your dog is just right there. Well, and at a certain age I think it becomes a necessity there to have to have an in-between product. So I think this is a great market for that. I'm curious, what is the ratio of dogs versus cats that are using this bed? Do we have more dogs right now that love the bed or cats going, wait a second, I need my own space as well. And they're kind of taken over. Yeah, it's mainly for dogs. I'd say it's mainly for dogs. But not to say we won't come out with products for cats but cats are, they can go all different places. They can climb the walls, they can do. So an elevated pet that is not as enticing I think for cats because they can actually do so much more. But yeah, we do have a couple of cat customers now. Awesome. I was just curious to know what the deal is with that because I know that there are cats that love to just take over any space that they can like, hey, it's mine, I'm the owner here, you know? I'm sure if there's a cat and a dog together the cat will win, the cat will win. There you go. Muppet says my elder mini-datch uses ramps for everything and I have ramps everywhere. Yeah, ramps are awesome. I think there's, and there's, I'd love to make a ramp that, you know, had like, I've seen some with metal that look, you know, they look cool, they look stylish, they look good in the house because I think some of them can tend to also look a little utilitarian but I think ramps are fantastic and stairs are too. Rachel Rose says, yeah, I've made it. Three dogs and I'm collecting their hair to make felting cuddly toys. There's so much hair, thank you, ladies. So I'm curious, what is a good tip for us to keep pet hair away from just the regular household furniture? So this is how I deal with hair. So we have an English cream golden, he has a lot of hair and then we also have a border calling mix and she's got an undercoat and she sheds pretty badly too. So I have two very, very dogs that shed and what I do with them is about once every six weeks I splurge on a de-shed treatment at the pet groomer and it really does help. It's pretty amazing. You'd have to find the one that's right for your dog and if there's sensitivities then that might not be an option but if there isn't it really does help kind of really brush out that undercoat and at least for the next few weeks you're in a much better spot. Brushing them as much as you possibly can outside or in a, you know, the garage if it's cold like, you know, some place away from the house I think that really helps too. And then just dealing with it is really about vacuuming. You've just got to vacuum. When I remember growing up my dad was vacuuming every single day and now I find myself vacuuming every single day. So you really just have to keep on top of it but brushing, frequent brushing really does help. And so when you are cleaning and now you said you can vacuum underneath the beds is there ever a chance when you would move the bed to either clean underneath it or to move it to another room? Is it heavy enough that you can't move it or does it move easily? Yeah, it moves easy. So it's made of iron but they're very strong. They're still lightweight enough for you to be able to move it around. And the actual base of it, if it ever gets yucky you can just, so the base of it you could unzip the top from the base and then you can take that outside and hose it down. So it's a completely indoor outdoor item by itself, the base. And if it needs a good hose down, go ahead and do it. You can sit it in the sun, it'll disinfect it and it'll be as good as new. So I'm curious, does it only come in white or does it come in other colors? It comes in white, dark gray out of a two-tone lighter gray and it comes in what we call sand which is like a beige color. We haven't gone into fashion colors yet because we just wanted to really blend in nicely. So we just looked at home decor colors and that's where, that's what we did. Well, and I think it's a wise move to blend in with existing furniture and different, you know, plat, what do you call it, palettes. So that- Yeah, yeah. Well, we didn't, we didn't want it to be an eyesore. That was the whole thing. We wanted it to look, you know, harmonious. So it not just to kind of blend in doesn't necessarily need to stand out. I have a feeling these are gonna start showing up in model homes and in homes that are staging for people that are trying to sell their homes. This is one of those items is like, oh, that is so cool. I gotta get me tonight. And I think it's fantastic because we're approaching the holiday season and for people that don't have a gift for their dogs. I know finding the right gift for dogs is always real big at the holiday season. How big of a dog can fit inside a pet bay, a foosie pet bay? So we did small, medium, and large. And I know sometimes that can be a little confusing because brand by brand, that definition is a little bit different. So you can see on our website the specific sizes. And so you'd have to kind of measure your dog and see how your dog behaves. But the small is for, I think small goes up to 40 pounds. So there's dimensions and then there's also the weight recommendations. So it goes to 40 pounds. The medium is good up to I think 60, 70 pounds. And then the large is the largest for a pretty big dog. Like you can get probably a, even up to a German Shepherd could fit in there. So that actually can hold up to 150 pounds. So, and I was just taking a look the other day at how our large compared to a competitors. And ours is a little bit bigger, little bit taller. So we made the large really generous. And I think some brands would call that might call that an extra large, but we just stuck to the small, medium, and large kind of nomenclature. But you can see all of the dimensions and the weight recommendations and the breed, some breed examples for each of those sizes on our website. So this is not the way that this is designed, but I'm thinking, man, if you had a newborn right next to mom and dad's bed, it's not a full bassinet, but you just put them in that little cozy pet bed right next to your bed. Man, that would be awesome. I have thought about that co-sleeper, it exists. Actually, it does exist. I loved my co-sleeper when I had my kids and there is a co-sleeper specifically designed for dogs. I'm sure it could be made a little bit more aesthetically pleasing. So watch out. I'm just thinking that that's so soft and furry. I just think of putting a little tiny infant in there and be so cozy and nice. Oh, actually four kids. No, we can't remember this. This is not a child product, so we don't know this time. Your teenagers, go ahead and let them... Actually, I found my teenager sleeping on the bed, not really legitimately asleep the other day. So your teenagers might take over. There you go. It looks cozy and inviting. So any common mistakes that pet owners make when they're cleaning the pet beds that should be avoided? Throwing the whole thing with the cushions inside into the washer, it's not a good idea. If you do wanna clean the inserts, the insert pillows, I suggest sponging them off, maybe with a vinegar solution or sponging them off and you can put those into the dryer. You can put ours into the dryer. I would say like a load of medium heat, but do it all separately. I think everything turns out better when you do that, plus those are fiber-filled. They may not return to the shape that they once were. And I would imagine if you have a 150-pound bed that fits a big dog like that and you throw it all inside the washing machine, it could be top-heavy in the laundry load and it could make your laundry machine shake. Yeah, it's not a good idea. And the other mistake I think people make is that they buy these beds that don't have a removable cover. And so they just, you get frustrated and throw the whole thing away if it gets really, really looking like it, really rough. So I think you wanna make sure that whatever dog bed you buy, you can take that cover off. That's key. That's a great idea. How often should a homeowner clean those dog beds? I like the once a month kind of thinking. So and what we are just launching this fall are covers only and we'll be offering kind of a bundle deal where you can buy our foosie bed and you can buy an extra cover. And so you just get into the habit of doing the switch just like you do your sheets. So once a month is a general rule, but if you have a dog that's a little bit dirtier or you wanna do it more often, obviously, you can do it as often as you'd like, but doing that switch, so you use the replacement cover while your other one's washing and then you do a switch. So we think that'll be helpful for people who'd like to stay extra clean and not have to wait for their cover to dry. When it comes to training a pet, how hard is it to train a pet to use a pet bed instead of just sleeping on a people bed, for example? I say a people bed. I know they're part of the family, a person bed. I think it depends on the dog for sure. It depends on, some dogs I think are really easy. They just love being in a bed, but I think if you can keep pulling them back there, teaching them like when you're watching a movie, maybe start there. Maybe the bedroom isn't the first place you start. Start when you're watching a movie and just keep giving them treats. Dogs treats are great training tool. Most dog owners know that. Just keep giving them treats every time they go back and keep calling them back. And then especially if you can put it near you where you can pet them while they're in their bed, then they know that they're doing a good job and they're making everybody happy and that's really what dogs wanna do. They just wanna please you. So I think that might be a little bit easier. And then if you bring that bed up to your bedroom, then you're just kind of reinforcing it and they'll catch on. Got it. Is there a room of the house that's better for a pet bed than another? Wherever you are. It's just a good choice. I think it's wherever you are. Yeah, if you, that's where I think that if you oftentimes come home from work and after you've made dinner and everything then you relax in your living room, having that pet bed right near you when you're in the living room is a great place to train them to be on a bed. So I can't help but think if you have a pet bed and you've trained the dog to stay in the pet bed as a comfort zone, like let's say you're watching TV or maybe you're going to bed at night. Does it make sense then to have multiple pet beds around the house instead of, I know personally I would not be carrying a dog bed around my house because that's too much work and I'm too lazy. I would not do that. But does it make sense then to have multiple pet beds around the house for that very reason? I think, absolutely. I think having one in the bedroom for sure and then one in the room that you're most in whether that's a living room or the office and then sure, if we have one in the office then we have one in the living room but I'm in the dog bed business. So it might be an exception but I do think definitely having two, one for the bedroom space and one for the common area space is a good idea if you really want to train your dog to stay in their bed. When we talk about training dogs, is there a great way to train the dog to not, and I know they're going to shed hair because of wherever they live or wherever they hang out or wherever they spend most of their time but is there a way to kind of keep it from floating all over the entire house? Because I know as a professional house cleaner we spend a lot of time cleaning up a lot of hair. Yeah, it's really hard. I mean they do, they shed. And I'm not sure, like I said with the faux fur I think the material that you choose for the dog bed can help trap it. So the faux fur has these fibers so it's, we call it high pile fabric. So if you can pick a high pile fabric it's more likely to grab that pet hair instead of letting it go into the air. And so the same thing if you were getting a pet blanket you would want a pet blanket with a high pile to help kind of collect that hair as much as you can. I know that going inside people's homes to clean I walk in and they'll say, oh, my dog doesn't shed. And then I look over and I'm like seeing dog hair everywhere. I'm like, oh, really? Cause like I'm seeing it from here, you know underneath the sofas and underneath the tables and in the corners. It's their baby. Their baby doesn't do anything wrong. His baby has no flaws. So there is no way then just to have no hair whatsoever. It's just a way to minimize it. Is that kind of what I'm saying? It's a way to minimize it. Now, if you're very sensitive, there are doodles. There's doodles out there. And the doodle craze has been really very popular in the last few years. And it's for that reason and it makes total sense. I mean, they just don't shed. Some of them don't shed at all. Some shed very, very little. And so if you really want to avoid pet hair, then you've got to choose a breed. That's just not going to shed as much. And how about cats? Well, you're talking to a dog owner. So I can't speak at an authority level on this, but I'm assuming it's the same. I'm assuming there are some that are going to shed more. You get a hairless cat. I know about those. I've seen those hairless cats. Those are so frightening to me. Every time I see them, I'm like, don't, don't even. It's missing all of its hair. As a house cleaner, you should love to see those things. You would be so pleased. The hairless cats are really frightening to me. They are. They're like missing all their skin. Yeah, okay. So are there any home decor choices or furniture types that are resistant to hair buildup? I don't know if there's any that are resistant to hair buildup. I can only say you can manage with them. I think that the performance fabrics that you can get for your sofa are key. Dark colors are harder than lighter colors, for sure, just like anything. Like I have a blue car. God, I missed my white car. It was so easy. I didn't ever saw a thing. So I think it's not necessarily about resistance, but more about seeing it and then styling choices. Styling choices. So lighter fabrics. Again, back to white. Well, and that's an interesting point that you bring up because in the cleaning business, we have what we call daily chores and then weekly chores. And so a daily chore is to groom your pet and brush the pet's hair so that you can manage it and then to vacuum regularly between the time that your professional house cleaner comes. And then like you said, with the styling choices of having the lighter colored fabrics, it's not gonna show it as much. But when you talk about inside your car, I would recommend on the inside door of the car that you keep even a lint roller with you. Because whether you can see it or not, when you get out of the car, if your pet has been in your car, and even if you haven't, I know lots of times that you will pick up pet hair or pet dander on your clothing. And no offense or anything, but we have an office where we have eight or 10 employees that show up every day. And I will walk in the room because I'm one of those people that has pet dander allergies. And I will walk in, my eyes will just turn bright red and I'm just like, ah, somebody has pets. And we treat the flooring inside that room, even though there are no pets on hand, we treat the flooring with Aller Search products, which are, it's a powder that you place on the floor and then it kills the pet dander. But then also just the chairs, like they'll sit in a chair when they get up, there will be pet hair all over the chair and there were no pets here because our clothing picks that up as well. And so I think it's important to realize that if you have a pet and if you have pet hair, that's gonna be a way of life. And so if that is a way of life, though there are things you can do to reduce the hair, having a pet roller with you that you just kind of like roll yourself off before you go into a business or some place in public, that that's something that you're going to have to do, as well as if you have a light colored interior vehicle, it's not gonna show up as much in the vehicle itself. Might show up in the floor mats. And so again, that can be rolled out with a lint roller, but that would be a recommendation. And then if you have one of those, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was just gonna, while we're talking about cars, I was going to mention for very inexpensive, you can find these all over are the cargo mats. They're not really mats, it's like a sheet. It's almost like a tent for the back of your car. So where you put your dog, it just covers it. Now it won't prevent the hair from creeping in. And I highly for us in Northeast Ohio, paying the monthly subscription for car washing is like well worth it. And I just, I go every Tuesday, they go, do they do the inside and the outside for you? And they vacuum out the back and you cannot see one pet hair. It is absolutely amazing. Waterway in Northeast Ohio, excellent, excellent company. I always remark about their, I don't know what they have in their vacuums, but to prevent a ton of hair going in the back of your car, a little cargo sheath in the back is very helpful. And speaking of the back of your car, if you've got a great big dog and you have maybe a big SUV type of vehicle, I know that we've been using with great success the pet rakes, I think it's called a fur rake. And it is a silicone rake that has great big long fingers on it. And you just rake out the back of your car. And we also do the flip side of it because the flip side of it is a squeegee. And so you can use the squeegee part and you can use all different kinds of furniture. You mentioned an ottoman earlier, but for a sofa, for an ottoman, for underneath areas of the home that are hard to have pet removal where I don't know, it's hiding and underneath the sofa or in like areas it's hard to reach. And if you are not able to get your vacuum all the way back there, the rake does go back there and you can like scoop it out. So that's another opportunity there as well. But again, the daily and the weekly chores, the homeowner's responsibility are the daily chores for the most part. And the house cleaners, when they show up, they're gonna be doing the weekly chores. And so they will, with a vacuum, they're gonna be able to vacuum some of the hair up. But there's still gonna be a bunch that you get to deal with as a homeowner in between each of those visits of your professional house cleaning. So I just wanna throw that out there that it's not a one size fits all. And once the cleaner comes, the hair is not removed forever, right? You still have the daily grooming of the pet and then you still have the, I don't know, the fur rake or whatever it is you use between those visits. And also one thing that I might recommend and throw out there is latex or nitrile gloves. We use these a lot in house cleaning, but I know a lot of homeowners will have a box. You can buy them in a box of like a hundred. And then right before a company comes, you can put on a pair of those gloves and run your hands over all the sofa and all the areas where your company is gonna be. And then just turn the gloves inside out and throw them away. And it removes the hair right along with that. So that's another option for, I don't know, if you have people like me that are coming to visit where I've got the pet allergy. You're not allowed to come over. No, but I mean, just as I go to people's homes, it's part of the thing because you're gonna be cleaning people's homes, but just the pet dander, sometimes my eyes will just water and I'm like, you know? So, but I do love pets. I grew up on a farm and I have all kinds of fun with furry friends, rabbits and cats and dogs and gerbils and guinea pigs. You know, the other thing, it's not hair related, but it's just the dirt from outside. And what, because you're not gonna give your dog a full bath every day, but they go outside and they come inside. And this also is a problem for us. We take our dog to New York City. We drive to New York City and take the dog with us sometimes. And if you've been in midtown Manhattan recently, it's a pretty dirty place. And so they're coming, he's coming back in so we have this system by the front door where we're getting him cleaned up. It's kind of like people, humans take off their shoes and the paws need to be cleaned. And there are these little buckets that you can buy where you can swish their foot into their paw, into this little bucket and kind of take a towel and clean it off. And then if they ever get really too, too dirty, then we'll just take the whole dog and put him in a tub in a low and warm water with a little bit of soap just so they don't fight us anymore because it's comfortable, it's nice and warm. But cleaning off their paws as much as you possibly can can really help reduce the overall dirt that dogs are bringing back into the house. And I think that's really important because even in other areas of the country that are not necessarily have dirt and soot and stuff from streets, but just rain, rain, mud, they're out running around and whatever they have on their paws, they're bringing inside the house. So I love that you would have a little stop station where you can train your dog to like stop and wipe his paws and with those little cups they have, I think they've got like little silicone fingers in there where they put it in there and it kind of like brushes their hands off and washes them off as they go. I think that's an amazing way to train the dog. So the dog is respecting the home as well. And like you mentioned, people taking off shoes, that's another way to keep the floors clean. But also if we keep our pets off the floor where they're staying in a little pet bed, then of course that's another way to help your pet also with their pet allergies. So I know lots of pets have sensitivities as well. Yeah. Oh, okay. So I'm really curious now, who is the target audience for this particular foosie pet bed? Yeah, I think it's, we're really here to serve anyone who has a pet, anyone who has a dog that they want to give an elevated pet bed to. But we are finding that people with, people with multiple dogs do love our pet bed. We've got a really great kind of, I'd say there's a boomer, a big part of our consumers are boomers, professional women, professional men. About 40% of our customers are men, which is interesting, which is a little bit different than your traditional buying behavior. So we're really here to serve anybody who has a pet who wants a higher quality pet bed than they're typically getting. Is the best way to buy a pet bed, is it to, and I'm thinking about gifts, I'm thinking about the holiday season. Is the best way to buy a pet bed to surprise somebody with a gift of one, or to have them go to your website first and pick out the one that they want? Or is it better to give them a gift certificate or how would that work? Because I know that as a piece of furniture, I know it's kind of a personal choice, but at the same time, I can think of people that would love to be surprised with one. I don't know what is. I think the beauty of this business is it's an e-commerce business. So it's so great to get a delivery, a surprise delivery. It's like, you get this box to your house and because the colors are so neutral and because you can buy a cover, let's just say you really don't want white, you just don't want it. You can buy a cover and you can change it. So you buy a black base and the white top for a friend and then they can switch it out. So I think you just buy it, you can buy it online and ship it and it usually comes in, we say two to five days, but the average time is three days. It comes so quick. It comes very quick and you can just ship it right to your house. No, no lugging necessary. And is the same base, the same base for all the different sizes, the large, medium and small or is the base different? The base is different. So we have, it's small, medium and large, top and small, medium and large base. So yes, the bases are, they fit specifically the size of the topper. So that's the only thing that you have to figure out, but we have customer service. So if there's any questions, we're happy to answer those questions. And like I said, there's a lot of information on the site where you can kind of see. And most, because we do some breed examples which are helpful. So if you do, you know your friend has a certain type of dog, you'll be able to match it up. And I would say bigger, if you're on the fence, a bigger bed is always better than a smaller bed. That was my question. My question is because how, if I'm going to surprise somebody, how do I know what size dog they have? Because just by looking at it, I don't know how much it weighs, for example. You know what I mean? Yeah, if you're not quite sure, then I would size it up. Definitely size it up. I guess a bigger bed is always fine. You know, the dog will enjoy it either way. Yeah, you can sit in there, you can sit in there as well. So you can fill up the space that might be open. Awesome. Is there anything that I forgot to ask you about the pet bed that would be interesting for us to know? Maybe we didn't have one before and we're thinking about getting one. Is there something that we need to know that I forgot to ask? And I'm checking our comments here. I wanna make sure we get your questions answered here. Please post her website link. Yes. And Google doesn't find it. Yeah, so the website link is, I think I've got it right here, foosypets.com. No, put us right here so that you can see that there at the bottom. Yes, foosy, www.foozypets.com. Hopefully you don't have any problem finding it. Paula says, Sandy, I'm also a cat lover and owner. I've heard mostly disparaging references to cats and cat piece mail. Otherwise cats have been pretty much ignored in this presentation. Is there a particular question? Let me see if there was a question here about cats. I don't want to ignore cats. Please post her website link. Okay, we did that. Leather and sofa and cat refuses to sleep anywhere but by my side. Cats, like Chris said, cats will pretty much go and they will sleep forever. And they do love those cat trees. Any tips for cat litter getting everywhere? And so this is not specifically about cat litter getting everywhere, but you can train a cat just like you can train a dog. And so if you have your cat litter in a particular place in the house, it's unlikely they're gonna cart it all over the house. But there are little mats that you can put that have like the little fingers as well. That when they get out of the kitty litter, then they climb out on the little mat and it has the silicone little fingers on it. And so it's like brushing, it's that same concept of brushing the dog's hands that when they get out of the kitty litter then they climb out onto that and then it removes it so that it doesn't track it all throughout your house. There are a lot of people that will put that either in their laundry room or in one of the bathrooms. And so when the kitty litter does get out, it's getting out onto a hard surface flooring that then vacuums up very easily. So I know that's some of the things we found for kitty litter. Did we have any other cat questions? I didn't mean to ignore the cats. I know, let's not ignore the cats. I'm thinking about something. If you have, if you're listening and you have a cat and you have a specific problem or that you'd like to see solved or you know your cat would love something and it's just not available. I'd love to hear it, I really would. I know cats are amazing. I just tend to have dogs but we wanna serve the cat community. I wanna throw this out here that we are not here just to serve dogs, we're here to serve cats too. So if there is anything that's been bugging you, I would love to work on a cat project. So please, you can go online and leave a comment. There's a contact us link on our website. So feel free to send me a note. I'd love to hear from you about it. Alrighty, well, this has been really fun, you guys. I'm super excited that you guys joined us today. I've learned a lot about the cat, I'm sorry, not the cat bed, but the fuzzy pet beds. And I guess a cat could certainly take over. I've seen cats that just take over whole sofas and so if they had their own bed, yeah, I can totally imagine they would love it as well. But please keep us posted if you guys have questions because I feel like this is gonna be an ongoing conversation. I've never seen anything, and I'm gonna throw the picture up here again so that you guys can take a look at this. I've never seen anything quite like this. And I think this is gonna become a really new, interesting way to monitor pets and have pets, again, closer to, like I said, seniors where seniors are not able to reach the floors to pick up their pets. And I'm seeing this quite a bit now with some of the seniors that we're working with and the little pets that are of senior age where they're not able to climb up as high as they once did. Again, this is only 10 inches off the floor. And I think not only is it super cool as far as like being a really trendy, cool, new modern type sofa bed for your pet, but I think it's also has some utility there for a particular demographic of people that would like to have their pets close and just make it more convenient. So thank you so much, Chris, for joining us. This was awesome. Yes, thank you. And fuzipets.com, and somebody said that in the show notes that we need to change the spelling on that so we will take care of that. So if you guys have questions, please reach out to Chris, fuzipets.com. And if you have questions for us, we are here to help you with that as well. So thank you for joining us. And I love this conversation. Yes, thank you guys so much. And if you're listening and not watching, it's fuzipets.com. So hopefully you have no problem finding it and we look forward to hearing from you. Please send me a note as well and you can also follow us on socials. We are at fuzipets.com, or sorry, at Fuzipets. So you can find us on Instagram, on YouTube, all over social media, so check us out. And I'm gonna put links in the notes to that as well so you guys can follow on social media and you can look at some of the videos that they've put together, some of the new products that are coming out. And then as we approach the holidays this season, be thinking about who you're gonna get a fuzipet for, for your family or for your relatives. Yes, great gift. All right, you guys take it easy. Have a great day and we'll talk to you soon.