 Now before I open for the for the for questions for the public Maybe I want to ask one question to the panelists that Clearly to fight illicit trade it is a complex problem as we have understood in terms of dimension in terms of cross borders in terms of actors into the intermediaries with e-commerce platforms and So there is no easy solution if there were any solution. I think that would already been applied so And then is a comprehensive solution where each act plays a role and together we fight in your view my question I bet they're really in the 30 seconds or one minute each one What are the two things if you had to list two important things or one important things that You would like to see different acts to do in order to fight illicit trade. No, there is no silver bullet But what are the one or two important things? But for me and it's an extremely important issue We can't fight effectively against illicit trade If not, there is no full collaboration of the private sector because it is the private sector that is in the center of this international trade it is he who knows The recipes I would say that will allow us to fight more effectively So now today, I would really like to call on the private sector because there are a lot of people from the private sector Participate in this effort and help us to build this international geological framework Support the work that is done so that we can effectively put this mechanism in place Okay clear private sector we have the private sector here. Maybe also in private sector So I've given my opinion Je bois les paroles de Jean-François parce qu'effectivement c'est extrêmement important de casser cette méfiance Ab initio qui existe entre le secteur public et les secteurs privés. Nous sommes tous autour de cette table ronde une sorte de passerelle nous rencontrons les autorités publiques judiciaire policière douanière administrative pour les aider pour leur proposer nos aides. Nous sommes groupe LVMH même aujourd'hui co-signataires d'accords particuliers avec certaines autorités douanières au policière à l'échelon du monde pour ce partage d'information qui est véritablement la base de toute forme de progrès dans la lutte contre cet empire criminel dédié à la contrefaçon. Autre point je pense que des solutions existent et je pense que ces bonnes pratiques doivent être aujourd'hui partagées à l'échelon mondial je vois par exemple qu'il est quand même topique pour de vous indiquer comme exemple que moi pour saisir en masse des blocs de non-domaine de sites de contrefaçon je vais aux états unis voir un juge américain qui va pouvoir motoriser à saisir des blocs de mille deux mille trois mille sites de contrefaçon avec la capacité pour moi de saisir l'argent de la contrefaçon qui est sur les comptes pépales ou alipay qui sont associés à ce site de contrefaçon alors que groupe français lorsque je vais voir mon juge français on m'autorise à saisir site par site donc une action pour un site le record étant pour nous cinq sites en juin dernier sans capacité de saisir l'argent de cette délinquance et je pense que l'éner de la guerre se situe une fois plus dans la capacité de saisir les assets criminels pour en réalité déstabiliser le plus possible ces réseaux criminels transnationales So more cooperation you think and sharing Carlos yeah so as a technologist I am always Optimist I think the fourth industrial revolution is gonna solve a lot of the problems we have because by the year 2020 which is next year in in few months we're gonna have already 20 billion objects connected to the internet by the year 2030 we're gonna have 1 trillion objects connected to the internet this room now maybe have about 300 objects connected to the internet this conference in years time we have something like 3 to 4,000 objects connected to internet your clothing your watches your Glasses everything will connect to the internet and everything will have something inside That makes that object unique and makes this object very difficult to counterfeit because one thing is counterfeiting The physical aspect of the object another thing is to counterfeit it the digital Sule of the object which is what it's all about I think what we need to do now is to establish very clear instructions on how companies can start to Getting themselves ready towards that revolution the fourth industrial revolution affects everybody. So last two years in Davos We launched the anti-licit trade declaration, which is a technology declaration that basically is signed by corporations that then comply with the principles of technology on how Brands and how governments can work together into creating the right synergies to reduce illicit trade globally And then you have organizations like PMI impact and others than they are really creating a multi-stakeholders Approach as this cannot be sold only by regulatory bodies or technology bodies We need to work together the big opportunity than by resolving illicit trade you also resolve The the issues related to the United Nations as the F So you are in a situation where poverty alleviation the fact that 1.2 billion people don't have a digital identity or a national Identity yet. So the sustainable development goal will never Succeed if we don't solve the illicit trade issue. So I think international cooperation at the same time Then we are sharp focus on technology development because technology is the enabler of the other So you can share maybe in one minute in my opinion is that as I mentioned before there is no easy solution There is no silver bullet. I think first thing everybody has to look at themselves So what our own organization can do in terms of filimores? We are doing the free knows so know your customer know your vendors and know you know your payments in order to To do business with with the right people We put in technology to track and tracing over products. So as a company We're trying to do a lot from us ourselves But I do believe that the solution is in partnerships and I think the panelists mentioned that so private public partnership It's the only way to really have a coalition each one doing a spot in order to to fight illicit trade in that direction filimores launch a fund called PMI impact, which is giving grants Two organizations being NGOs being at low enforcement being the public sector private sector in order to find Projects and their sectors that to to fight illicit trade not only on tobacco Which is a sector but any sector because they're all interconnected So ready to find a coalition of willing partners to fight the so public private partnership is clearly The in my view the way ahead But each one has to do his own bit and not only point of finger to the law enforcement or to the Amazon or these walls