 Jimmy K here, Metal Voice. Look at this. The Metal Voice shirts are now on sale. Just go to the video description to find out on how you can purchase one. Metal! Hello, boys. Hey. Here we go. Welcome to the Metal Voice. Today on the show, yeah! Who do we got, Alan? Oh, my gosh. It's been years we've been trying to get this dude, man. D. Snyder himself. Hey, guys. Great to finally be here on the Metal Voice. I didn't realize it's been years, but I hear that complaint from a lot of people. Sorry. Sorry for the difficulty. I hope the catch is better than the chase. Hey, you know, this is a great time to do it because my ears are still bleeding. My computer's sweating here, listening to for the love of Metal Live. My computer's dripping with sweat here, listening to this album. July 31st on Napalm Records for the love of Metal Live. You got the solo album, you got some Twisted Sister there, and I believe there's a few other tracks, a new song altogether, right? A brand new track. Yeah, prove me wrong. It's not live, it's studio track, but, you know, Napalm, you know, at this day and age everybody's trying to figure out a way to sweeten the package to get people to actually buy the product. And they asked if we had any outtakes from For the Love of Metal, and we did not. And I said, but, you know, we can write something and, you know, and record a record. So, I mean, prove me wrong. It's a signal to people that this is DeSnyder's sound now. This is the direction I am in and staying in. It's very much in the vein of For the Love of Metal. And that's, you know, anything you hear from me moving forward would be that heavy. Let's start with, you know, For the Love of Metal, the album itself, it made our top 10 list. And to go back to your point, you know, is De angrier these days than he was back in the 80s with Twister System? Because man, this is some aggressive stuff coming out of here. You know, it's, it's actually a pretty good question. I'll tell you something that I've never told anybody, except my wife. And she said, that's really screwed up I mean, I am blessed. I believe I'm happy. I have success and financial well-being. You know, I've all the things that people dream of and I always dreamed of. Yet, anytime I look in the mirror, I give the middle finger. And I'm not sure if I'm giving the middle finger to myself or to the world in the privacy of my own moment. But I think I do have a well of anger within me that that I have many it's only honest. I feel that it's always been very difficult me to get things done. I've never, I've never been given nothing I've ever done has ever come easy and people say, oh, that must be so satisfying it is. But damn, I would just like something to go easy one in a freaking while. I like someone to just say yes and not have a freaking battle with everything I try to do. I mean everything. So, you know, even my kids. Yeah, so I think there is a well a hidden well of anger still in there and you're hearing it. When you say everything, you're the one constant there. It takes me back to your book. Shut up and give me the mic. I got it right here, by the way. Is it D that's cursed or is it D the cause? What's going on? My wife is a, my wife is very spiritual. She's like the traditional holy roller way. She's a little more, you know, hippie-ish even though she doesn't look anything like a hippie. She went to Peru some spiritual journey and walked into this place in the middle of the jungles and she was like decked out by the eyes of Dior and only made up and there was only dirty hippies in there and they thought she made a wrong turn on the Amazon. You know, so she's she's definitely, and as a person you don't got to like, not be a woman to be spiritual. Anyway, the point is she says we are all sent here on a journey. She says and this is yours. Your journey here is you're going to get what you want you'll achieve your dreams but you're going to have to fight and scrape every inch of the way. I said great. The good news is you get to come back and do it again in a different way. Even better. Even better. You've retired and now you're like stronger than ever. I mean I can't even believe this album is so great. It's, you've taken the twist of sister songs and you've revamped them and they sound better than ever actually. Alan? I agree. You know, thanks for appreciating that. You know, you guys know true fans know that Twisted was a metal band before we became recognized as you know, anthem pop, metal, hair we were there in the trenches in Europe touring with Motorhead and Saxon and Maiden it was no hair metal there wasn't even anybody else wearing makeup. I mean we were doing this since the 1970s after Kiss took theirs off so I mean, you know, we so the fact was we were a metal band but I certainly had these you know, love, the AC DC the Slade kind of anthemic rock songs and we wrote some obviously powerful ones but in our heart we were a metal band especially in my heart and on this album I try to really show that first of all with the exception of I Want to Rock when I could take it I focused on songs like Under the Blade, Burnin' in Hell Fire Still Burns the really metallic Twisted songs and my guys, you know they're from bands like Toxic Holocaust when they detuned and started adding a little more you know I mean they were metal songs but even more metallicized after my new band lays into them and I really wanted to connect the dots there with this live record and show people here's what I'm doing today this is what I was doing then and they're not so far removed even hearing a song from Widowmaker in there Ready to Fall which fits perfectly in you know that was a very metallic band thank you Standby for Pain and you know that was a very metallic band and it fits perfectly in the set and you know you did all the writing you would love to have more input from the guys in Twisted System but you were the main writer and it's almost as like Jim was saying you're doing all the writing but it's like part A of your career and part B because it's so so heavy now Twisted I you know Twisted was a glitter band they formed in 1973 which people just started to get aware of through the documentary that's out there and that's 73 that's the Alice Cooper days Bowie Days T-Rex New York Dolls and that was their inspiration I joined in 76 that glitter era was over and metal was starting to come and I loved glitter rock but I also love metal so when I joined I brought in my love of both those things and that became sort of the Twisted Sister what became to find his hair metal sound but at my core at my heart I'm a metalhead I've always been I'm day one day one first black Sabbath out day one first grand punk out day one first Zeppelin album day one blue cheer day one I am like I was there when the ugly breach birth of heavy metal and the death of the Woodstock nation and I helped swing a sledge hammer to destroy it you're welcome you're welcome Frank cares about Crosby stills and Nash God says you know it's interesting I was thinking about this last night as I lay in bed oh my god we're not going there we're not going there I didn't know what just got to show I was probably wrong with it guys I just you know I was thinking you know back in the 80s me and Alan you know we're fans and there you are at the PRMC you know trying to sort of stop censorship and today's world I think we've actually have censorship I mean I don't I mean it's changed it got better but then in a way it got worse I don't know if it's for the better or for the worse oh well you're absolutely right first of all it's more subversive you know when it's out it just we thought about like we were winning in some way but it just went more underground it's still there the manipulation of what we see and what we hear the PC nation you know I it's a filmmaking now and my filmmaking friends often talk about the fact that a movie like blazing saddles could not be made to that's right literally could not be made because it offends too many people I've never seen that movie the first time in a theater full of African Americans in a black neighborhood a black theater me and my friend were only two white people and I was laughing my ass off and my friend said stop laughing we're going to get our asses kicked and I looked around at the theater and everybody was laughing you know everybody was laughing it's funny funny it's funny but now you know the conservatism was ultra-right back in the 80s now it's shifted sort of to the left we've got the liberals saying oh you can't say that you can't say that you can't say that so yeah it's still around it's still an issue um and you know but we just got to continue to push back and fight okay let's get back to the album here I mean you know you're a bloodstock okay you got your musicians now you were an opening act what was that about opening act I hate to follow Dee Snyder I like the bathroom bit like hey we're going to play a new song don't go to the bathroom yeah well that's just because I remember seeing this is the truth Led Zeppelin, Madison Square Garden physical graffiti tour the album had just come out and they went is it this one's off the new record it's called Cashmere dude half the arena left half because they were like oh it's a new song Cashmere they walked out but it wasn't like Cashmere yet it was a new song and anytime here as I said in the live album it's like I would tell you if you have a problem with going to the bathroom it's all you have to do is play this words here's one from the new album over and over it'll be running for that crapper you know so but I mean uh you know by the way I just want to say that you listen to the CD and the interstitial stuff the rapping and stuff is taken almost all from Bloodstock the album itself is a and the live DVD is a combination of nine different shows from all over the world and we and when you watch the DVD it cuts from day to night Europe to South America to rain in one line of the song one line it's constantly cutting and I at first you say does that work? it does and what I wanted to show was that the connection is for the community for the family how it resonates in Brazil and it resonates in England and it resonates in Australia it resonates in Canada it resonates everywhere we are connected through this music we are one we really are one and I wanted to show that just by showing every audience just enjoying the moment together you know the metal family is an amazing one for sure plus it's like a documentary right there's like bits of uh you know I guess from the PRMC days at least what I've been reading about it correct? I did this thing called Spoken and Shouted in Australia I had an idea to do a spoken word day two in the same town and a spoken word was a smaller crowd a few hundred people but it was interesting but a lot came out of it because here I am in the middle of touring the album and so a lot of the interview sort of reflected on where I've been and where I got to where I was today and we found that it made for interesting cutaways during the live footage to break from the you know little concert footage and go to this interview segment and reflect a little bit on what people are seeing and hearing from D Snyder in 2011 that's 2019 Is stand-up comedy next because the banter in between the songs you should be on stage you are you know yeah well you know to me yeah I enjoy entertaining the audience and people I've ever been reviewed and said D Snyder show is an emotional roller coaster they said there's anger and then there's joy and there's laughter and at the time this reviewer was I was dealing with my mother the passing of my mother and I came and did this show because I said these are the times when we need metal the most when we're hurting this is when we need to this metal is always that form of release for all of us people say it's a fact that metal heads grow up to be better adjusted adults and psychology today interviewed me and asked me why and I said we get it out we express the frustration and the anger and the heartbreak and the sorrow and all those very powerful emotions need to go somewhere and we go to a show we scream, we yell, we shout, we mosh we go home sweaty and happy and so I try to, as a front man and that's what I am, try to bring all those experiences and my wife always said her favorite parts of the show is when I stop playing and talk to the crowd and I guess that's why I'm in radio now so just to add to that D the safest place you can ever be if you're with true fans is at a heavy metal concert I mean the most violent concert we're actually like jazz and blues concerts where people have been drinking all day but you know heavy metal fans it's a brotherhood like you said so many people who go to festivals or go to shows who aren't metal fans or get dragged along they're always like amazed I couldn't believe everybody was it was so great everybody was having a good time I'm like you know this is the old judge book by its cover miss reading the room you know I've always said don't worry about the metal fans we can get it out I worry about the pent-up suits and people who are just so uptight they're the ones who turn out to be axe murderers but hold on I really gotta ask this before it's all done I mean here you are re-releasing or restarting your career in a sense with so much anger and power and such great music and then Twisted Sisters retiring I mean it's sort of like should you have continued with Twisted Sisters or is that over or I think you could probably make the best music of your career with Twisted Sisters right now well you know that's an interesting thing I don't okay and we could go a little bit longer guys they give me a break in between I appreciate it but we can roll for a little bit more I love Twisted and then my brothers and we're still talk to each other and we're still friends and that was one of the great things about reuniting was to fix those relationships and because we fought so hard and so long together to end on the note we ended in 87 we should you know Twisted Sisters came out like a lion appeared and people like some people didn't even know we broke up but what you probably was like we went out with a whimper and didn't want that to be the last thing so Twisted Reunited after 15 years we were together reunited longer than we were together the first time which was an amazing thing but there's limitations when you're with a band like Twisted Sister where people wanted to find you by what you did and who you are and I still suffer through the same limitations but I'm a little bit freer to do something different and having done something finally that connected with my audience the metal audience with younger fans as well it was amazing the response to for love of metal this is what everybody who goes solo whatever instrument they play dreams about you have this legacy band you're from but you'd like to show that you standing on your own two feet are capable of being something of doing something and you know look at Robert Plant he's a friend he's been trying for decades and he puts out all these different records all in hope that people will say remember Robert Plant you're not overpowering but still that he stands on his own keeps trying it's the dream that everybody hopes for only person I know who really did it well a few people have done it but Ozzy did it in the biggest way Ozzy left Sabbath came out and now it's two hours plus of Ozzy Osbourne paranoid and good night is a tip of the hat through the old days he stands on his own Glenn Danzig did it coming out of the misfits it's such a difficult thing to achieve and I started to actually I finally put like sort of a flag down and said this is D and people going yeah we dig this so I'm gonna be hard pressed to not move forward as D Snyder and try to continue to be me separate from Twisted Sister and continue to give people music that's D Snyder music and for myself what really turned me on to Twisted Sister back then they was the voice and the voice is how do you do it all these years later it's incredible how strong and powerful your voice is on this live album thank you and that's one of the things that Jasta when he challenged me to do this record Jamie said your voice is as strong as ever opera singers don't start singing until they're in their 30s that's a fact that's when they start their careers because their voices haven't matured and I think I benefited I've had a throat surgery I've certainly abused my voice but skipping the alcohol skipping the drugs living a healthier lifestyle I think it's allowed me physical and vocal longevity although that said I've had knee surgery I've had shoulder surgery I've had throat surgery I'm becoming the bionic frontman so I don't know until everything's titanium you know we'll see what happens that's the odd thing as I sit here going okay you're kicking the second wave of your career in at 65 really now in the meantime I'm going to be directing my first feature film I've just been asked to direct another movie I've finished my first novel which is out at Publishers now a fictional novel so I'm also exploring new ways of expressing myself and I don't know how I'm going to fit it all in but I'll try I've got my little collection you never really stop I've got a Van Helsing CD Van Helsing's Curse baby I've taken many swings at the solo thing I certainly have Desperado I've done a lot of live shows SMF's I mean and none of them really connected anytime I just couldn't get them to really connect until for the love of metal went to the top of the billboard charts it was at the top of all the metal charts to go out on stage and you hear it on the live album you see it in a concert if I had tear ducts I would have gotten choked up because to have people singing and excited about new music from D Snyder was something I've been struggling to achieve for over 30 years since I left the band and finally people something was resonating so I feel blessed in that way What genre are you going to be writing for your movie script in is it horror, is it psychological thriller? I'm a horror guy even though I'm capable my novel is a fictional novel period piece from the 70s nothing to do with rock and roll and I'm hoping that people read it and go holy crap this guy is capable of things beyond rock and roll and horror heavy metal and horror but I'm a horror junkie Miami's Enemy which is the one I'm going to be directing first I wrote very disturbing movie and powerfully disturbing and then after that I've been asked to rewrite re-imagine a classic 80s horror film I can't say which one which I'm working on right now and direct that one as well slash film from the mid 80s so and I think the producers they're saying oh we found a new Rob Zombie you guys rocker everybody wants to sort of like just wants to like pigeonhole you but you know if you're lucky enough to get a pigeonhole to be in you know you gotta view it as a blessing people fight their whole lives hoping that somebody will recognize it for something so the fact that I'm you know recognized for metal and horror now you know I've got that I know I could do a lot more than this and that's why I like writing because it's so freeing for me I as I write characters I could be anybody I could be anything in any place at any time Alan? I just want to shout out here if anybody can get their hands here's a cassette that's how back this goes Widowmaker's Blood and Bullets what a phenomenal album anybody can find this what album was Clive Burr on? Clive was on Desperado Desperado Dormais and the late Clive Burr on Desperado a swing and a miss you know I mean we were the record was Shell before it even came out Widowmaker that first record Blood and Bullets where are you guys Montreal Canadian you access the giveaway we sound like you I forgot Esquire Records that was a buddy of mine set that company up handling money out of Canada through some through some item some sort of stock scheme was going on we were actually with Blood and Bullets getting some some legs we got the 50,000 copies oh my god we were the only band on the label it was this little back room down on Long Island and this Canadian guy was pulling money out of Canada and the Royal Mounties came in and arrested the guy locked up the building and shut the company down so that record is like gone, wiped off the face of the earth because some Canadian guy was I loved him for trying to help my career but he was doing something very shifty and illegal I don't know so we're trying to actually and then the second album was on CMC and on the middle of the tour Joey Franco slammed his finger well actually my guitar player Albert Trelli slammed Franco's finger into the door and broke his finger in the middle and the tour was called and it was just like a death knell for Widowmaker so right now we're working on trying to release the two albums in some sort of package a missing link package to a box set or something so we'll see about that guys with a pleasure to talk to you hey thanks D. Snyder for the love of Metal Live July 31st a must DVD and people think I'm a prophet because the last thing I'll tell you so spring 2019 I announced to my management I'm taking off 2020 from live performing and they were like what we just got things going again with the love of Metalizer listen I'm taking off I'm going to write a novel I'm writing some screenplays I'm taking a break I didn't know the entire entertainment industry was taking a break we're not a prophecy and I wanted to write all I can do is write I sit her in the house day in and day out writing be careful what you wish for and then they said well what are we going to do for 2020 I said well let's film some of the shows and put out a live album as like a placeholder time for a live album to come out at a time when people star for live entertainment so get the DVD Blu-ray put it on your big screen TV get your friends social distance wear your masks get a beer and rock out with you you know what's out to D Snyder Live for the love of Metal Live and in July and hopefully we'll be back in business again in 2021. Thank you so much thank you D it was a great guide that brings me right up to my next interview take care