 Name another podcast like this. We're gonna bring it to the table, Vostop. We're your girlfriend favorite, Vostop. We're gonna do it how you want it, Vostop. Yeah, everybody on it, Vostop. It's a unique hustle. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.E.O. And I'm here with a lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None, none. You know my devil. Man, Miss... Hey, man, listen, man. We got some cash done pulled up, man. The real Dallas way. Yeah, it's some niggas in here right now from Dallas, Texas. They're not playing no games. You know what I'm saying? And they been putting it down. Like in the city, for the city. Like B did it. You know what I'm talking about? These guys right here. Chase Pat, man. What's up, man? What's up with it? Mr. E., what's up, man? What's up with it, baby? Man, me and you have been a long time coming, Mr. E., I got in your inbox over a year and some ago and the niggas didn't even come on my show, man. Some of these niggas don't show up. Don't do me like that. When the number's right, the niggas say, if you don't got to play, that ain't where it's at. You know what I'm talking about? Nah, nah, nah. We got to get that started. We ain't ready for it to get going. Nah, I know it wasn't that, brother. I just had to get you though. You know, you have to think about it. I know when you did that with Trill, talking no pill talk, shot out. He didn't have hardly nobody following him. We talked about that today. I told him I was interviewing you finally. Because he didn't want to put me on you when you did that at your place with him. He was proud of that, too. He called me and told me. Yeah, it was a no-benefit. Shout out to Lee. Shout out to my boy. Yeah, yeah, Lee. I call him Trill, talking no pill talk. That's his new name. Chase, man, what's up, man? Man, what's up with it, man? You just hanging in the cut. Say, man, let me tell you something, man. Back in the day, you were hungry for that music, man. You ain't never seen no nigga hungry as you was for that music, man. Well, you were not trying to hear it. I really still ain't. I just, you know, switch lanes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you was, hey, it was music or nothing else for a minute with you. Squared business. I didn't have some, I didn't have, I had a gay man. I didn't have some people on this show, man. The real was that, that, that really, really lured at the music and that. Lured it. You hear that? That's the country part of it, man. Lured at the music. You know what I'm saying? For real, though. I got some guys that really love the music here. You know what I'm saying? Hey, fat bass to them. They did their thing. Tom Tom, I was just in a video with him. I was there. Like everybody did their thing, man. And then you got you producing. You produced for a lot of different people, man. A lot of cats say they want your sound, man. I done had dudes on here tell me they want to work with you. I said, do the nigga do movies or do the nigga do music? What the hell this nigga do? You know what I'm saying? So break that down. Let's let's get in there. No, I'm in it. My wife should. I'm just having a good time. Got some real cats in here that I rock with. That that's really from the city. Yeah, I'm having a good time. So born and raised in Dallas, right? Born and raised in Dallas. Dallas. With your mom and dad? Yep. Yep. Both parents in the household? Well, all the way up to about five or six. And then they split up. But they both went to Bishop College. You know what I mean? Then went right down the street. They had a couple of girls, had me and got to my house and, you know. So you split them up. They couldn't deal with you. You just like, they're to split you. No, no. But like he too bad. We can't do this. No, they split up when I was about five or six. But then they had my brother too. Oh, okay. May he rest in peace. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. So, um, but your father was still in your life because you were living with your mom, right? That's correct. And your dad was still in your life. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then I ended up actually going to go live with him. Live with him? Okay. How old were you when you lived with him? Uh, like middle school. Middle school? Uh-huh. Okay. Because, um, the reason why I always ask that question because there's so many broken houses, broken homes. Right. And I wish there wasn't. I wish, you know, you, right, right. Men and women could deal. Right. And be able to raise their kids and stuff like that because they don't realize that these relationships, sometimes you fall in and out of love so many times, but you have to always come back together and do your thing. Right. No, absolutely. You have kids? Yes, I have one. One? Are you with her? With my, with my daughter? Daughter's mom. Oh, no, absolutely not. He's a big advocate. My niggas straight know how to do movies. You know, I'm a big advocate, but I ain't with her, but yeah, but I'm for it, though. But, but you know what? We, um, but I think we co-parent. I was just going to say I feel like we co-parent pretty good. Oh, yeah. We didn't have some up and down, but I think we co-parent pretty good. Okay. But you just couldn't deal with being there. Nah, you know, being young. Being young. On both of our posts. Okay. So, okay. So how long ago did that happen? How long ago? Yeah. Did y'all split up? Um, probably about seven, six, seven years ago. Okay. So looking back, because people go through this all the time. Right, right. Okay. So looking back on it, do you see where you could have done things differently to have a different outcome? So you can advise some of these people who are, you know, watching, who might be going through the same thing that you went through back however long. I know you didn't go in details of the reason why you split up. Right, right. But looking back, you know, we always can look back on certain situations and be like, man, if I did this, different, did that, different. If I held on a bit longer, that, that wouldn't have happened. Right. Absolutely. But you know, my thing is at the end of the day, I prefer that we co-parent and do it in a way that's, um, feasible for my daughter rather than being together and constantly fighting and she's having to see something that's toxic and something that's unhealthy. You know what I mean? Okay. And I just think that right now, the way we have it, I think for right now, that's the, you know, the best. Did your daughter ever used to always ask you, are y'all going to be back together? Um, no, not that I can remember. Okay. My, my, my baby kind of gangster. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. She love mama and of course, you know, she a daddy's girl. Okay. And she look at it like as long as mama happy and daddy happy that she happy. So how old were you when you got into the music or where you felt like, you know, this is what you wanted to do? Um, in high school, man. So I threw in my hutches, you know what I mean? Um, in high school, you know, I had a little rap group just like most, most, most, most kids in high school. Okay. Were you good? Uh, I thought we were. You know what I mean? I thought we was. Uh, and I think the city thought we was too. Okay. You know what I mean? We was the I-45 boys. Okay. Yeah, man. We was doing it back in the day with Pooke and Luchin, Gaggy and Chase and DSR and all that was going on. But, um, I really feel like I found my path when it came to the producer. Producing. Yeah. Because I noticed that, um, a lot of times I always ask, you know, who makes more money? And I always say the producers make more money than the rappers. Absolutely. It's not even, you know, I say it like this, um, as an artist, no offense to. But as an artist, you are, you're a liability, but as a producer, you're an asset. And I mean, the, the, the, the greatest example of that is B-King. Shout out to B-King. You know what I mean? B-King is such an asset, you know, because he's a songwriter, he's a producer, you know what I mean? Um, I always been behind the beats. I always made beats for other artists, came up with hoops for other artists. You know what I mean? But he does both. Yeah. No, absolutely. Absolutely. But what it does is it kind of balances it out. You know what I mean? He, he don't have a whole bunch of chains. You know what I mean? Does he have those crazy t-shirts? He just, he just a dope artist. Yeah. He does those crazy t-shirts. And he's just a dope artist. Right. I mean, he letting the music talk. You know. But then in anything you do, you have to always continually be creative, changing with time, because you can't, even being a producer, you can't just keep a certain sound, because people get tired of that sound all the time. Am I not right? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, let me, let me say, let me break in, you know, let's get some real conspiracy right there when you all come back in that thing. I talked to B. King the other night. You know, I was impressed somewhat. You know, I'm a real stumped down investigator of whatever conversation that's going on at the time. Yeah. Yeah. I talked to him and yeah, he said he can hear the music different, because he used to be in the band. I get trauma boy or something, you know? Yeah. But at the end of the day, man, you know, that nigga better get them beats out. We need to hit this year, nigga. Don't try to come out here. Yeah. Yeah. We got to have a hit every year, nigga. Yeah. And you do it again and again and again. Yeah. You know what? It was cool. Yeah. The first 10 times B. King, that's how I give him a shout out. Yeah. I got a hell of a shout out, though. Yeah. But what about 2023? You know what? What is it going to be? B. King, one of the most consistent artists. He usually do one on a year. Yeah. That's what he do. Yeah. He one of the most consistent artists in Texas, though. He hard. Yeah. Yeah. I'm messing with him. Yeah. Yeah. I did it. Yeah. That's how I got to be, man. Just good for the culture, man, to have that. So go ahead. I'm going to let you get back on. But boy, I came in, didn't I? Yeah, you did. Yeah. That's what... So you grew up in a group to do your own producing, to stop? Well, what it really was was, you know, everybody be kind of having their own path. Mm-hmm. And I just... I guess my ambition made me keep going. You know what I'm saying? You know, some of the members and all that little type of stuff, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy, Kana. I talked to him today. You know what I mean? But the bottom line is, I just think that producing and engineering and writing and songwriting and doing a lot of networking, it just made me more ambitious and gave me a little more gasoline. So how did you learn how to produce? Was it just YouTube, just researching or...? I was always musical. You know what I mean? I always... Come on, man. Let's see. Come on, bro. Yeah, I was always musical. You ain't always... You gotta figure it out. Oh, yeah. Ever since I was little. I could not learn how to play the good talk, man. I tried. Yeah, I know. I could play that little big tone. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. That was it. Yeah. That was it. I should have kept going. Yeah. That song's been cold. I was in the band in outlet. You know what I mean? So I was always musical. But how hard is it to learn how to be a producer? Using those instruments, trying to put it together, the beats together and doing all of that? I mean, I put it like this. If it was too hard for you to figure it out, then a lot of people wouldn't figure it out. You know what I mean? And I always thought of things like that. If it was too difficult to figure it out, then nobody would do it. So I always looked at it like it's just a matter of time. I just need to post some love into it and just take some time to just figure it out. And that's the easy part. And what... Okay. Because going into any career, you always think of, okay, what am I going to do to make myself different, to stand apart from every other person that's doing this? Right, absolutely. So what makes you different? I can always hear it. When I wake up, I hear it. A lot of producers hear it too. Yeah. So what makes you different? Well, I guess I heard it that different way. Like with your beat? See, and then like I was... I came kind of like an old school producer, so like I was always real fixated on drum patterns and grooves and, you know what I mean? I feel like I had a musical ear that a lot of producers didn't have. Sometimes producers was... they was motivated to produce because they wanted to be rich, or they wanted to be famous, or they wanted to have a clout. Like I was just always prepared by the art. You know what I mean? How hard was it working with Don Chief, man? Like all that time. You did a lot of that music, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to my boy. Shout out to him. Like how was it produced? Because the way consistency was around him. How much of that music did you do? I did more of it during the earlier part of his career. Okay. And then the later part of it, I kind of veered out because then I wanted to start doing film. Film, yeah. You know what I mean? But when you first started, how was it working with the young Don? Man, it was dope. You know, and we were young, and we felt like... And Chase Pan, this is how y'all end up leaking all the... That's how I'm doing it. So how was it, though, like when you seen them, they kind of... Man, Chief was a monster. Chief was a monster and I feel like we was just above... Before our time. You know what I mean? We was really before our time. Like, we had a soul and just like a real soul that a lot of people just didn't have. Who else did you end up leaking with during this time? Chief, Chase, the Roe T-Cache, all the way down to Gidey and Silk and Jagadish. Like... Wow. So you did an R&B as well? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was hard on that. But who came on? Somebody came on. No. You know what? We interviewed GMB in Houston the other day. Yeah, we did. And he was telling us that being an R&B producer compared to being a rap producer is two totally different things. And some people who does one can't do the other and vice versa. That's a fact. Because the thing about it is with rap, you rely on your knowledge of how to work the system. You know, you put some drums together, put some sounds together, but a lot of times you rely on the software. Whereas there ain't no shortcuts when it comes to R&B. You actually have to sit there and play that, and then you have to hear it. And then you have to take what you hear in your mind and actually play it and play it out. And it's a different skill set. And how they referred to it was to say that people who do R&B when it's time for them to do the beat for rap is like it don't come across as grimy and hard as it's supposed to because they're not used to making that type of beat. Which, you know what I mean? It depends on the producer. Because when I heard PMC make beats. Whoa! When they say PMC, you shut this whole down. Stop it right there. I'm a straight up pimp fan and everybody knew when they watched Boss Talk 101. We in Texas, nigga. It get hectic, nigga. Say, listen, man. That's why this show is like it is, bro. I be in here on something real. Like it's certain things you're not going to do and that's bypass the pimp. It's pay homage time. You know what I'm saying? Because what he done for the South, listen, man. Ain't nobody else done nothing even close. And the realness and the true way that he spoke to the times and the people during that time. Ain't nobody even doing that for our people to even try to help them to even bring them together right now. You know what I'm saying? He brought the South together and said, we are somebody. Man, we got to acknowledge that, bro. Yeah, not for real. Ain't nobody else done nothing like that even close. Yeah. So I'm going to always punch at it whenever you say it. Now, we can go back into the conversation and let him know. Hey, man. Long little pimp. Shout out to He's a Leo too. I talked to him earlier today, man. Yeah. Shout out to He's a Leo. Shout out to my boy. He's a good dude, man. He gave me a review on the movie and everything. Shout out to that boy, man. That's my boy. He's going to always come through. Yeah. Now go ahead and let's just talk about the pimp. What did you say about the pimp? Nigga, I'm listening. Yeah, man. Long little pimp. But it was just like pimp C had the ability to have that music just as potent as some drums and drums just as potent as that music. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, I mean, at the end of the day, it just depends on the producer. That's all right, man. Yeah. And then he'll shoot it. And then he'll say that hook on you and make that beat. Nigga, whichever way you want to do it. He'll take it down through that. Yeah. He'll take it down through that. So, I want to get into Chase. So, what part of Dallas are you from? From Pleasant Grove. Oh, right up the street. Oh, the greedy groves. Okay. And were you raised with your parents in the household? Four or about, till I was about 10. Okay, a little bit longer. Yeah. So, but at 10, you could remember a lot more. So, how did it feel having them split up? It was different. It was because my dad was always there, you know, as far as since I was born. So, that's kind of when I probably changed a little bit because he was straight. Really mad? Mm-hmm. People blamed it on that. But I don't think that just probably... It was like free at last. Yeah, it felt like that. He actually did a change because he was kind of strict. Right. Like from birth. Like, you better not move around. So, a lot of that kind of got with me right now. Okay. From him being at those 10 years. Like, it put me down. But my mom was a little lenient. She saved us even when he was hard. She saved us a lot. So, yeah, but it was different. So, although he left, he still didn't come back and try to implement that? Uh, nah. He got... You know, I mean, they kind of fell off a little bit. But through those years, he was... You know, he had another family. Okay. So, just be, you know... You know, I guess his hand was full. Mm-hmm. Should I say, but he tried. He tried. Did you have all the siblings in the household? Or was it just you? Yeah, I had an older brother and an older sister. Okay, so you the baby boy? Yeah. Oh, okay. I think I would have for games, brother, I believe. Yeah, I'll say it. Yeah, I'll say it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. I remember you, y'all niggas were bad, bad. Shout out to my boys. Yeah, for real. Who's that? We were bad boys. Y'all was good. Y'all was good. They tried to... So, you were in sports? I was, back then. Till he left and then you stopped? Or he still did? No, the older I got, I realized, yeah, these boys hitting, these boys for real, he's gonna take something. Yeah, it ain't, yeah, it ain't. I was good, young, but the older I got, the harder it got. So, I started seeing like, I'm gonna start rapping now. Yeah, for real. So, who inspired you to start rapping? I would say Snoop. Really? Yeah, I like his little Snoop back in 1990. What's your favorite song? He's just that whole first album, Doggy Style. Pop it, pop it, pop it like a rap. Doggy Style. When I hit that Nina Rolls, you know I got the hat. That ain't gonna wear all this. Doggy Style. The first Snoop album. I could listen to it from Jen and Juice. I used to rap it. That was like the first album my mother found out. I was releasing a custom type music. What was she? She was mad? Yeah, we had to sneak a list to the cassette. We had to sneak it. So, when did you tell her that you wanted to become a rapper? She knew early, but she didn't really, she always wanted me to do something else. Most mothers do, cause I feel like rapping don't make no money. Yeah, she always wanted me to do something else. It wasn't until she started hearing other people saying like, you know your son is like, oh I know your son. She'll talk to somebody else about, they'll be passing, they'll see the ad. She'll be like, you know my son. You know that's your son? Yeah, she's like, man, everybody know you. So, she started accepting it more. More than a minute. Yeah. Younger now. Oh, that's cool. That's crazy, man. But at the end of the day, the name Chase Pat, is that from where we from? Yeah. Man. Yeah. That's where it from. Yeah. That has been chasing it. Yeah. Stop playing. Yeah, everybody from it, we call it the Chase, but everybody from the Chase, yeah. They know. They already know. They know, yeah. They go way back, man. And that's the whole game, like, man, like you gotta, they had to, remember the hood boy, the hood was it, what was the boy's name? Hood niggas and zoo niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was back in the game. That was a group? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they kind of influenced me too. I didn't want to be like them, but I seen them doing it at our neighborhood before I ever had a chance. They never wanted to hear me rap. Yeah. I was young. I was like, I can rap too. They didn't want to hear you. Nah, they didn't want to hear you, man. Wow. But they're motivating me though. They're motivating me. They're motivating me. So how did you have to prove yourself to people? Well, for me, any chance that I had to rap, I rapped, and every time anybody heard me rap my voice, they'd be like, come to the studio. It was just like, can you rap? Well, rap. I rap. I used to freestyle all day, you know. How long did it take you to get to your first big song that everybody just, that was it? Um, I would say probably about around 2005, six. And how long were you doing rapping to get to that point? On a serious level, probably from 2003. Okay, so, yeah. About three years in. But some of those first projects that I did on my own, people was liking them. Okay. Wow. I like the fact of how you guys evolved. We don't get into the movie, you know, Trippity Revenge. Mm-hmm. You know, but I want to just, what, what made, what gives you the motivation and the drive? You know what I mean? To really, you know, say this is, I'm going this way with it. You just wanted to, you wanted to take a chance. Change lanes. Change lanes. Create opportunity. For others. You know what? No money. Always. I didn't know. You know what? I didn't really know anything about the money, to be honest with you. And it's a good thing. Yeah, I always had imagination. You know what I mean? So, doing music with cheek. You know what I'm saying? I finally, we finally, he finally start really getting to the visuals, you know what I mean? So, there was a music director, I mean a music video director, he start doing the music videos and I used to help him write the treatments. You know what I mean? And that kind of got me a little closer to it. And then one day he was just like, hey man, let's do a movie. He's like, I want to do a movie, but I can't do it without you. Because at the time, I had a lot of relationships with the artist Right. You know what I mean? So the bottom line is I was like, okay. And I start reaching out to artists that I had relationships with. And some, you know, some came through and some didn't. Chase was one of the ones that came through. I was always a chase fan. You know what I mean? But the bottom line is, you know, I always could write. So he gave me the characters. I kind of wrote the stories for the characters. And next thing you know, we had the premiere watching the Tripidee movie. You know what I mean? How different is producing music compared to doing directing this? It's the same in the capacity that is our creative. You know what I mean? And it takes a collaborative effort from different people. But it's totally different because when you're looking at something, then it's sometimes it's harder to subscribe to something until you really see something that's dope. You know what I mean? Yeah, because to me, when you're dealing with... So when you're doing a movie and you're dealing with so many people compared to when you're just producing a song for somebody, you're dealing with that one person. And you know, you just have to deal with making it exactly how they want it compared to when you're dealing with a movie, you got to make sure everybody do what you're supposed to do to your vision of how it's supposed to be. And not everybody can execute it the way how you see it. Right. Well, I can put it like this. You know what? To me, it's easier with music because people tend to be a little less hard on music. You could play a record and then go and run some errands. You could play a record in the car while you're driving and at some point it'll grow on you. Mm-hmm. Movies are something different because what it requires is your full attention. Mm-hmm. So you literally have to stop what you're doing and it has to be interesting enough to keep your attention. That's true. You know what I mean? That's true. So... You don't want nobody falling to sleep. Yeah. You know what I mean? You don't want them falling to sleep because they bored. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And it's a totally different thing to end up on location and put out a camera and entertain people for two hours. And how hard is it and how hard is it because I know that everybody you had on cast, how many of them actually had experience in being actors? Let's go to the first one first. Yeah, with the first one. Yeah. The first one was it was harder or the second one was easier or what? I can't even say that either one of them was easier or harder. Which one was the easiest? Probably the first one was the easiest because ignorance is bliss. We didn't know. We didn't know. We was just ambitious and we just wanted to come up with a movie. You know what I mean? And at the time in 2014 that was something that a lot of people in Dallas weren't doing. Right. You know what I mean? So we was just ambitious and we was just excited about the idea of coming up with a movie. We weren't really so much focused on making sure that our tees were crossing our eyes. I knew I could write and we knew we could try to act and we got on set and we just did the best we could. Did a good job. Man, thank you. Yeah, I watched that one too. That was early on. It's kind of gray area. Blurry. But I remember because you got to understand whatever Chase said or whatever going on with the people around in Dallas. I'm definitely tapping in. I'm definitely tapping in. Yeah, yeah. I might not say nothing but I'm watching. No, for sure. For sure. Yeah, the first Triple D was I would say that that was fun. Now when I got to the second Triple D I already knew that people was like all right now we gave you a little grace on the first one. What you got. You know what I mean? And it was kind of cool because I had took the time to study filmmaking for about six or seven years. So at that point it was my time to put that to the tees. You know what I mean? I went down and watched Dirty Third with Propane and all of them. They invited me down. I went down and checked them out. And they waited a long time before they put the second one out. It was years. So it made me think of the way that they that whole wave is going. I think that's kind of paralleling. Yeah. I think that's hard. You know what I'm saying? Shut up. Be gattie tight eyes. Yeah. Shout out to Boomtown who competed. You know what I mean? Yeah. So when you guys so when you did the first one you got past that. Now you come to the second one. Baby, I see he was in it. But then mode three RIP to mode three. He ended up being in it. Just talk. Take me down the road of how you guys end up even bringing him on the set and saying this is what you guys want to do. I want to jump right into that. You know what? Believe it or not, mode three was the first one I casted from Tribbity Revenge. Wow. It was the first one I casted. And we talked about it right after the Tribbity movie. I talked to him about it. You know what I mean? Wow. And he said he would do it. So six or seven years later we come back and I ask him about it and I just knew he was going to tell me here or now. Why? Well because you know at the time he was a different artist. He was bigger. Bigger. You know what I mean? It was more of a demand for his music the whole nine. You know what I mean? So like, you know and I would have understood that if he would have said now like man three was solid and he kept his word and he was like now we're going to still do it. So anyway the bottom line is I went to mode three and I was like bro, you know we talked about four or five years ago are you still going to do it? And to my surprise he was saying yeah and then I knew I knew I was really going to cancel myself out because I had to turn around and tell him alright bro if you do it you got to tell you acting classes. So he did some acting classes. Man, he did about three or four months of acting classes. Really? Uh-huh. And you saw the difference. Oh yeah, definitely it's definitely a difference when you formally trained Chase did acting classes too. No, he was the bomb in it. I liked his acting in it. And I really just wanted everybody to have formal training. You know what I mean? The way I looked at it. So everybody had to do acting classes? No, not at all because to be honest with you majority of the of the stars that I casted or the people that was out front were actors. Okay. You know what I mean? Actors and actresses shout out to the cast. You know what I mean? But a lot of them was acting for a living or had a degree in acting or went to school for acting or whatever. Can I know? I know there's more three that didn't have like a huge role in there. He was in the beginning part did a couple pieces but me watching the movie for the first time because I didn't watch part one. Right. I just watched part two. Right. I really thought that I would have seen him a lot more. Um, well to be honest with you he didn't do every single part that was in the script because I mean obviously he passed on. But he did everything that he needed to do in order for his character to make sense in the film. You know what I mean? And I'm very, very grateful for that. It almost reminds me of Paul Walker Fast and the Furious because he had passed away during that whole you know, movie and so forth but they still implemented certain parts of things that they had recorded previously or even get like a double gang or somebody to play certain parts you know showing him from behind which it really wasn't him but it looked like him just to give him the credit to make sure that his kids get his daughter actually you know would get money from the movie and so forth. Right. So even going forward because I'm sure you're going to do another one will you have like a mode three look-alike that might you know do certain parts in the movie? Um, Justin I wouldn't do I wouldn't do a mode three look-alike you know what I mean but what I would do is I'll write something in dedication of mode three and who he was you know what I mean? Okay. So we just have to see how that goes. Yeah. Yeah. So when you when this here happens I mean with the way the city let's be real for a minute you know I have some real for this boss talk. Amen. You know when you when you take and add a mode three to this movie with all the controversy surrounding his him as a as a as an artist did that kind of did that make things a certain way or did certain people not get involved because of the way that the conflict was in the city? You know if they did they never came to me about it. Okay. You know what I mean? And mode three was the only rapper that I was really interested in having in tribute revenge. Of course what I mean by rapper because we had other cast members that did music but you know rapper that was really going on tour on the radio really active mode three was the only one you know what I mean because what I really wanted was I wanted mostly actors you know what I mean because I wanted to play ball you know and that's why I had chase pack and a few of the others hey man like baby hey man take acting classes you know what I mean? Yeah. So when and I'm going to stay on mode three for a second run out for something like when when he ends up dying when he gets killed on the street like he did at 1155 you know the movie is not finished right what are your thoughts and how do you deal with it you know far as what do you plan at that point do you start assessing okay first of all it's tragedy and you know of course we react to it's a tragic thing but when it comes to the business how do you and then what do you do to try to prepare yourself for how you're going to get this movie out well you know when we first heard the news I'll be honest enough to say that I thought it was a joke yeah we thought that it was a prank you know what I mean because set out to rain you know sometimes him and rain they'd be kind of like doing little pranks and little stuff yeah but the bottom line is when I figured out that it was real then the last thing on my mind was the movie of course but you had to move forward with the movie so let's get to that yeah we had to move forward but I believe that we kind of use that as motivation okay I got you we kind of use it as motivation to kind of keep pressing on and we just look at it like man we gotta get this shit out now because you know this is number one a dream of his and number two this is an opportunity for us to continue his legacy yeah you know what but when something like this happens I talk with Mr. Lee and different people that work with different artists that pass away all right now we start to look at the paperwork a little different and how things are going to be you know done with how you know people are going to be compensated for whatever situation may turn out to be how easy or how hard was that for you to deal with that part of it um in fact I'm interviewing now you're like this nigga I'm winning I didn't even know this boy we're going to go on boss talk man go ahead go ahead I just had to give it to you man yeah you know what anytime you know somebody pass and then they not here to speak for themselves now you got a million people trying to speak for them you know what I mean and I'm not going to say that it don't get complicated because it do but I just did my best to try to remind everybody like hey man the bigger picture here is leaving the legacy for him and doing something in his honor by when I say it was an opportunity to be part of something that could live on and you know for mode three you know what I mean so like that was my thing I wasn't really tripping on the money you know people want to argue about that but it's hard to slice a pie that ain't even here yet yeah what about Rain how was it working with Rain after this because Rain had to pick up a lot of situations and go a lot he had to go you know basically his album when it came to different things was he one that also gave his input on the mode three part of the movie or he didn't even bother nah well to be honest with you Rain was a help from the very beginning because he was making sure that three got there on time he was making sure that three was on point with his acting classes and all that man shout out to Rain you know what I mean so like I ain't got nothing to say about him you got to understand that Rain has hurt of course he got a million people in his ear at his head and all that but at the end of the day I think we was able to get past that and you know Rain was a big part of it I mean he's literally a big part of you know the film in a whole line that's it so Chase how was it did you get to work with mode three during the film or different sets it was different it was different it was different sets but during the when we first started getting together of course he was there but when he shot now I wasn't there for most of the shots he was there probably played the background on a couple of them but most of his shots now I definitely wasn't there it was different sets yeah different sets but it's just something to be remembered man a lot of people you know when that movie came out I remember the hype around you know when you did the premiere people shout out to baby and all those guys man just a litany of guys coming together and I thought it was unifying he had a sense of unity in the fact of doing that so I commend you it was Dallas yeah it was it was a commendable effort that's something that people may overlook but when you really got an eye to see you're going to see the fact of how this was a healing as well yeah man you see what I'm saying this is a part of it I've told Rain on here that you didn't give yourself time to heal pretty much you basically you out here going in on everybody trying to figure it out and you know already that ain't that ain't the time to heal that he didn't give yourself that time cause he didn't have that time a lot of it cause of the stuff that was happening with the label and the music and then people saying he was a part of it and all kind of stuff but you know what what you did off in the midst of it man I commend you I commend you guys for even you know pushing forward man and I'm going to say this I wouldn't have been able to do it without you know what I mean like people like chase cause chase saw everything from the beginning you know what I mean but just I had a good solid cast and crew and people could have just started dropping out and said you know what I don't want to be a part of this but they was bold enough to stand to them and just shout out to the city for you know coming out and supporting it you know what I mean yeah that's hard man you know so chase what I mean how do you feel like the movie done you know as far as when you looked at it and seen yourself cause you know when we talk to propane propane say man I wish I could go back and do this part cause I would have did a better part I didn't know how I was looking on it cause it was the first time doing it you know what I'm saying I was trying to do a little better man I feel I feel you know I like it they you know I took classes they got me make sure but I still watch it and feel similar similar sometimes but that's motivation yeah cause I know it's just the beginning for where I'm gonna take it to yeah it's just like you starting to do music so I'm inspired to take it to a level that people who see me in this movie might not even think what I'm trying to take it to a whole another level just studying and I'm like okay wow and I'm taking another class and now so I'm getting better so it's like the sky's the limit and now watching since you've crossed over into this lane now I can imagine when you're watching a movie you don't watch a movie the same way how you used to I studied and I can see and you get tips from other you can see like okay like I was watching some things I'm like I can see she did that or he did that you know I was watching Wednesday on Netflix and the little girl she got the dead eyes I was like my eyes gotta stay dead the whole time and she was doing that wow so I can just study other artists and how they are perfect it's not just something you just wake them to you have to really become that person and one thing someone said I can't remember who said this in the interview but I think it was propane and he was like what gave him comfort to know that he didn't do such a bad job even some of these big movies and big actors and you can see their mistakes that they have made like even if they make mistakes then I'm good we've all seen movies from big actors we be like come on now we see it so of course that gives you confidence but like I always knew working with Mr. E from even doing music to now doing movies he's like he's like you know one of those mad scientists on anything he does so like a Kanye West or Timberlain like you know what I mean they put a lot of time into it so he was being modest when he was talking about his production but even when like I come right now day but he challenges me when I was doing music and the same thing goes in the movie like nah so sometimes he hit sometimes he hard to work with he gonna challenge you though but I like that but I like that you know what I mean that's what you need so a lot of that came and made the movie for what it was too so you out there chicken folks on the set let me tell you something you know what I ain't I ain't never even talked to nobody about this but I think it was one time we had did a single me and Chase and I ain't gonna lie it's literally my favorite song that I ever produced it was a single for Chase you know what I mean what's the name of the song it was called Collar Me and it just kind of had like Saddle to verse he was on the hook and he just had this pimp feel you know what I'm saying and I mean the record was dope so what happened was I think like Chase had put it out so I called him I said no no no we can't put it out like that and say you know Chase Chase is always cool but I think Chase hit that same man check this out yeah hey man Chase hit that you know what I mean but it's like Chase is one of my favorite artists and I always wanted to work with you know what I mean but I always wanted to see him win you know what I mean and now that he's acting like even on screen like I like to see Chase on screen you know what I mean yeah he does a really good job he translate very well and he gives the whole movie like Dallas you know what I mean cause I hate to see actors who I'm like she said bootleg I can keep calling it bootleg because I'm like I can tell you're not an actor but for you when I see you act I can't tell that at all you're believable I've been getting a lot of love like that too I knew it I knew it I said my boy getting good at this my boy getting good at this so you're going to hang up the music hat and just go straight that nigga straight love that music I love that music is in my soul but the acting that's been feeding that desire it's been feeding a lot so it's kind of changing but I've also been thinking about it so new music is definitely on the way out of the alley though to doing it you want to do it in a way to where both compliments the other and you can why not do both with today's time anything could pop at any time some of your older tracks could pop on tiktok or anywhere some of your tracks anything your loops anything that you've done with the way today's society is anybody could grab anything at any minute to keep praying and keep hustling and then God gonna do the rest but I love the generation that we're in when I say that meaning it shows like there's any regular person that I can be an actor or actress as well because I don't know if y'all remember when you were growing up the people that you saw on the big screen or on the screens were all the big actors or actresses that's been doing it whatever now you look on movies Netflix and stuff and these are I say that I don't mean to cut you off but I've said that I was like I see some of these comedians that's making it off Facebook, Instagram like bro 20 years he wouldn't made it he would have to go through Eddie Murphy and been under him for 10 years he would have to go through a process and I see some of these women that's maybe they 50 years old they've been singing their whole life but they got a platform and they blow for the word like oh my God but she been trying to make it the record label and they wouldn't sign like man that voice is amazing so this day and age you can definitely it's definitely too many avenues to for anybody to get anybody and you know what the thing about it is the industry took the bias out of it the moment that you was able to start streaming and you can get on this network and that network what you did is they moved the middle man out you know what I mean it used to be a time where like there was a gatekeeper that you had to go through in order to get to daytime TV or major networks there was so much content and so many producers and so many networks that now like as long as you got something that's dope that people gonna mess with you know right and do you think that the big screen is becoming that thing of the past because to me all the people that are making movies now are going to your tubebies your Netflix and all of those they're not going to the big screen is it because going to the big screen is harder for them to get to the big screen it's just easier for them to get to those channels and tell you that you can survive at home you know what I mean so what happened is during the pandemic when people thought that they had to go out now they didn't watch everything on Netflix they didn't watch everything on tubebie they didn't watch everything on the networks you know now they making money at home they staying at work they homeschooling the kids and they didn't figure out how to survive at home so now people like you know even though the pandemic over with they like we ain't got no reason to leave the house technology has got us doing a lot of things different technology is what caused the music to hurt a little bit but then on the other side it may have caused the film area to do good a little bit it's just like people producing music at sort of high rate you know same thing with film though I think we went how to tile up here we had a day if he didn't wasn't consistent enough to keep bringing those movies as fast as he did so do you think you're too romantic with the music I mean with the with the films I think you're taking too long do you think that you got to get faster or you're going to take your time and the next project ain't going to come for another five years well you know what in film some producers are about quantity and then some producers about quality I always been about quality even when I was doing the music but how long we got away Mr. E I mean I mean come on we could do something or something was Triple D Revenge dope it was dope it made me long you just me bringing it for something you know what I'm saying for something you got to bring it because if we want to win you got to have something else and you got to go because I'll be mad because you're romantic I see what's going on bro you're bringing it over your house I heard about you my nigga you want to sit there and watch this movie five or six times I'm not for to do that with you and it told me about it I said no I'm not going over there I'm not going over there bro I'm on another movie you know what you know what what it really was was it's usually everybody else like I wanted to film out as soon as I got done like I wanted it out but when you're dealing with distributors when you're dealing with aggregators you're dealing with film houses you're dealing with production companies they tend to take their time well while you're doing that and as soon as you finish your dad to start another movie it doesn't have to be another Triple D it can be something else start another movie so you're working on it could be a Mr. E production it just comes out so we get to deal with it I agree I agree but then because I always talk about fifty cents because the way how he did it was to me genius but the only thing I hate about it is the fact that he takes so long to bring the seasons back around and it pisses me off because I'm like man how are you going to get me so hooked on this and then oh it didn't come out it's supposed to come out but it didn't come out I'm like it pisses me off but then he came a raising can and all of that but I like the way how he branched off he had Tommy do his own thing over here and then this one has their own thing but people still watch it yeah I never on tell you let's tell the truth yeah yeah y'all you have to at least tell me a lot everything that was done well good I like Tommy let me real about that one for a minute no I like to you like that that one my favorite one is raising no no no Yeah, let's talk about Tommy's role, man. So I'ma keep it real. Tommy, the book with Tommy, it was hard for me to get through it. See? It was hard for me to get through it. I like Tommy. No, let me be real, though. He didn't even write on that one. What are you thinking about, Tommy? Let's be real. You think I'm gonna tell you the truth, man? No, when you think about Tommy, you saw Tommy grows. He was underghost the whole time, and now he's stepping out of his own, trying to do his own thing. See, I'ma tell you what it was. We were so interested in Tommy because Tommy and Ghost was like, there was opposites. That do all, right. But Tommy can't hold his own. That's real. Tommy can't hold his own. Exactly, but we keep watching it to see if he gonna mess up. No, no, we don't keep watching it. I missed a lot of episodes. We don't keep watching it. Okay, I'll watch it. We don't sleep on it. I got you, I'll watch it. I love Philly, but that one right there, he could have kept that one. Y'all don't wanna tell the truth. He could have kept that one, bro. No, I'ma keep it live. I'ma keep it live. To me, Tommy is not interested enough for the character to hold his own. For me to watch a whole series with him. Okay, so out of all of them, out of all of them that he's done, which one is your favorite between Ghost, Raising Canes? Ghost, Easy. Or, I know Tommy is not in there, or BMF? No, no, let's not include BMF because that's different producers. But let me tell you this, shout out to Courtney Kim too. Amazing show runner, amazing writer. You know what I mean, very inspiring to watch her work. But for me, I like Raising Canes because it's so original. I'm talking about, first of all, the acting that's top notch. The acting, the cinematography is top notch. The only thing that power had over Raising Canes was the writing. The writing was brilliant. And I feel like that writing team and that writing staff was hungry when it came to power. But Raising Canes from a production standpoint and just dope, man, Raising Canes for so. The actors was way better. The budget was way better. Like the bad guy, old girl, I can never remember her name when it's time to talk about it. You talking about the one boy, the mother? I got a crush on her, man. I like Mary Jane. A real boss, I say this. Which one, which one are you talking about? You talking about the mom. Cane and mama. Yeah, Cane and mama. Yeah, she is like, yeah. Tasha, that's her name on the thing. Yeah, that's how I call her, Tasha. What's her real name? Tasha was her name on the show. Man, y'all didn't look her name up. Y'all wrong for that, bro. Y'all don't need that. Tasha was both wives. No, no, no, no, no. You still thinking about that? You talking about that, no. We talking about Raising Caning. We talking about the woman. Oh, her, her, her. The one that shot a few people, they run up on folk, take the gun. She thinks she's bad. She too, she too. No, that's too, she, mm. But you can hate over there. If that's the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If that's the case, she should have went ahead and, and killed her old man instead of sending him to go try to kill him. Oh, I see what you're saying. No. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Is she that bad? No. Like, why she gonna send her son? She coaching her son. But he didn't even know that that was his dad at the time. But, but the thing about it is, her son was close to him. Oh my God. See, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. I know that, but, yes, but, he always would call her to meet up to talk about him. You could have easily got him at any time if you wanted to. Mr. E, let me skip subject. Do you think you could make us something like that in this D, man? Ah, yeah. In my boy pad. Let's just get it going. Put that boy in a suit. Let's get that escalated popping. Let's let that boy ride in the back. Pull up. Yeah, let's go. Man, let me tell you something. I just need to check the clear. If I get, if I get the money, then it's, it's, it's up. Man, that's how, so are you looking to, are you trying to build that investment? Absolutely. Like, you know, that, that, that populace up for yourself? Absolutely. Absolutely. That'd be hard, man. Can't wait to see it. I got a question. I know you can do it. So you've been to acting classes. Yeah. And you know a lot about film. Are those, like going back to power, are a lot of those, how do they make those sex scenes look surreal? Here we go. Well, they got them old draws on under there. I know what's going on with the draws on under there. Do you think so? They got them little tight speedos on under there. No, because sometimes you can see some, look at it, he look in. Y'all tell him, Chase. Chase, you know that. Y'all tell him, I'm really moaning. Like, Chase, you know that, I'm really moaning, man. Chase Goose and for his life. Well, yeah. I mean, it's close. It's not real, but it is close. So it's not real? No, it's not real. It's not real. Well, we have... It's close, it's very, it gets very intimate. How do men control themselves? Well, I spear control them as well. Yeah. How do you know? You don't know. No, no, no. But I'm just, I'm just... You always said men only think with one thing. No, that's not true. But you get so needed in doing all of that. That's so weird. How do you control yourself? But those are men who probably never had attention, never... For me, I can be professional around a beautiful woman. I can be like that and not be... Oh, because in my mind, I'm like, it's not that time. But if I knew it was like that time, maybe I would know. But mentally, I can be in control of like, it's not the time, you're professional, it's what we're doing. So they never felt uncomfortable and I never felt uncomfortable. Because I'm a short, when he was on the show, he talked about his professionalism. I was thinking about it. He was also talking about the fact that when he did Stump the Yard, he had to kiss Megan Good, who was his friend. She is his friend, been knowing him for years, it was hard, he had to drink just to kiss her. Because this is really his friend, this is his sister. You know what I mean? So, and then he talked about also being professional. But he also talked about slipping up with Britney Spears because when they were their work relationship. So, you know, there's times, you know, that you might fall short when he was younger. But as he's matured and gotten older, just like yourself, you learn to control your members better, right? But it's not even just that, he also mentioned that, you gotta think about this, filming a movie can take how long? Absolutely. A very long time. And you are acting with the same person every single day building a friendship that sometimes- Mr. and Mrs. Smith. You can write, that's exactly what he said. And it learns blur, cause a lot of people, even like Twilight, I remember I used to love to watch Twilight and they ended up into a relationship after that. So people, there's so many movies where people acted together, ended up in a relationship. I can see how it happens. You definitely get close. Cause like I said, you gotta become that person. So she becomes that person. So, but some, so I can see how that can happen. If y'all both single, but if they don't end- That's real. If you both single, you tend to let it. A lot of relationships end too. Yeah. It can end in a relationship too sometimes, depending on the person, you know. A part of the relationship. Well, you won't be doing the acting. They just, the ass ain't gonna be sliding up against no niggas or all that while I owned her. I'm not, what's that nigga named Dwayne Wade and you not getting her in a union right now, so I can tell you that right now. So you won't allow me to act with that. I ain't gonna allow me to act with that. It's just trying to holler at you in real life. He said, I'm not gonna allow me to act with that. He said, I'm not gonna allow me to act with that. He said, I'm not gonna allow me to act with that. Hell no. Nigga Mike not need to pull up. He can't be on Boss Talk 101. You know what, Wade more often than not, people are professional. Wade more often than not. And then you gotta think about it. When you're doing a sex scene, it's people in the room, it's lights in the room. You're doing take after take, you know what I mean? It's not as comfortable of a setting as if you really intimate with a young lady, you know what I mean? At any given moment, we're gonna say cut, you know what I'm saying? Okay. And to be honest with you, it's mathematical. It's nothing romantic about it. You know what I mean? You're acting. How draining must it be to keep on turning that on and off after hearing cut? Okay. Go, cut, go, cut. Gotta get back in that mode. Yeah, that must be draining to keep doing that all the time. Oh yeah, we were shooting all night to the early morning, to the next morning sometimes, till the sun came back up. So yeah. So you leave feeling drained for sure. One thing I can say about Chase Patton, what you don't need to do is give up. We need good actors in Dallas and we need you to stay focused. Mr. E, we need good producers, good writers, good representatives for Dallas. I think you guys are the dopest that I've... Set out to our little film maker. All of the film makers need a shout out because this ain't no easy job, man. So how can people get a hold if they're trying to get in a movie, man? Ah, man, most of the time I'm on Instagram, you know, at director Mr. E, director underscore in my STA, underscore E. A lot of girls try to get you some to get in a movie. Yeah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah, nah. You know what, man? I just be so focused on work because it's so much work. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the foolishness. That's what we need purposes for, man. Shout out to April, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's your father. Yeah, uh-huh. April Eels. Yeah, she did try to hit me up about you. But April came over to act a damn fool on Big D the mogul that time about woman, about that dang list. Yeah. You remember that stuff? Yeah, she said she, yeah. She was gonna shout about that list. Shout out to April. April, yeah, she said that list, that gatekeeper list ain't right. You be on that gatekeeper list? Nah, I don't be. You ain't make it? Damn, Big D always, yeah, Big D. I don't take that person a lot. Bruh, I do. Big D wrong for that. Big D wrong for that, bruh. Yeah, that gatekeeper list pissed people off. Yeah. Yeah, him and Terry Blue over that making these little old lists. Say, man, y'all wrong for that. Terry Blue, shout out to Terry Blue, man. Check it, man. Hey, man. Big D. Big D the mogul, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Holler to your boy, man. It's a unique, thank you. Say, top three film producer all the time. We gotta hit that. Man, thank you, bro. No, no, I need you to tell me. No, I'm not. Thank you, man. Who's your top three? He think you're telling me that he's the top three. Because he pointed at me. No, no, he's the top three. Say, listen, this is what, let me say something. This is what he did. He said, he said, top three producers, thank you. Top three. Who's your top three? Who is your top three? Time to be everyone else. You don't like to do, you don't like dudes wearing dresses. No, no, no, that's not gonna be real. Yeah, yeah, but. You don't agree with that. I don't like dudes wearing. No, I said that. No, no, listen, I don't like dudes wearing dresses, but that didn't have nothing to do with it. No, he did have something to do with it. So who is your top three? My top three will be like John Singleton, Quentin Tarantino. Well, that's hard. You got some hard ones. Probably the Hughes brothers. Okay. Probably like to beat the hell out of you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not playing with them niggas, man. Trying to mess that ball from the inside. You didn't think I knew that, did you? Yeah, I believe that, yeah. But Hughes brothers hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So who your top three actors of all time? That are alive? I would say Tupac. Yeah, man. For sure, and. Male or female? That means you better name a female. That's what that means. Nah, I don't know. I don't know. You do what you want to. Man, I think. That's what that means. That don't mean nothing. For sure, Denzel Washington. You can't get no woman in there after this. Yeah, you got to. It's tough, tough, you know. I should be in some. They ain't gonna get in there. Make the right choice, man. Violet Davis. Ah! No, he's just doing that. But I didn't know he wanted to say. Niggas, you think Violet Davis better than Forrest Whittaker, nigga? Forrest Whittaker coming up that line, nigga? You crazy? Forrest Whittaker. Man! Disaudit. What? Violet Davis is the man. Danny Glover, mate, you know what I'm saying? Violet Davis, she calls him. She calls him. She calls him. Niggas Fox, nigga gold, man, you crazy. Niggas Ray, man, come on, man. You on with that trip. But I do love Angela Bassett. Angela Bassett. They all talk to him. No, no, make me keep going. Eddie Murphy, I'm gonna keep going. So let me ask you something, E. Who do you like better out of Jamie Foxx and Denzel Washington? And why? He gonna be boss. Jamie Foxx. I knew he was gonna say Jamie Foxx. Yeah, I knew he was gonna say that, too. He's gonna say why. I can tell you why. Okay. I can tell you why. Why? Because he taxes. I'm a Texas nigga. Because he taxes. Because he's a good guy. Or, you know what I'm saying? Who had the best verse on Jay-Z and Bumbie? Big Pimpin. Big Pimpin. Oh, Pimp. Pimp. We're Texas, nigga, I told y'all to you. Because if anybody don't listen to that song and hear when he say, now what y'all know about them Texas boys. Yeah. You from Texas, you cannot go to... I had to argue with dudes at the barbershop. How could you even ever say that? You from Texas, man. And, you know, Pimp did his thing on there. He was just eight bars. He came to Pimp. He was just eight bars. He really wasn't the type of meat that he was on. Usually, they used to him being over. He came and did the Pimp. He said, oh, boy, I'm gonna go and do it. I did, yeah. You know, I wouldn't take you down to do that, too. Yeah, I wouldn't try and do the Jay-Z. I'm doing the Pimp over there, yeah. That's what made him the hardest helper to do it. Slip over bad, man. You see, the thing about it is, Pimp is the only one that's a real songmaker. He gonna make the beat. He gonna make the hook. He gonna make the verses and all that. So he knew that if he come over like that, that the club was gonna smoke it out, pour it out. He ain't that old jerking. Yeah, yeah, he can't do that. He ain't that old jerking. And he didn't give them but eight bars and he did not get on the boat. He didn't make it on the boat, did he? He didn't make it on the boat. Damn, he didn't make it on the boat, did he? Not partying with you like that, but, I mean, we cool and all. Yeah. I think, yeah. Yeah. Say, man, check it, man. That's how I go down on Boss Hawk 101, man. I had a great time here today. Hope you guys enjoyed it, man. Love you, brothers, man. Me and you go back 30 years, man. This can't go back 30 years. I've been in Dallas. You let these cats know they don't know me in Dallas. They say, oh, we don't know it. Let them know. The real was no. You're kidding me. The real was no, man. So that's the show. Before you end, I want to know, because I love to hear stories. Give me one story about him. You don't know nothing like that? I'm a real life hustler. Hold on, baby. I want to tell you something. I'm slicking the streets. You don't know I'm slicking the streets. Be quiet. He, um, he was slicking the streets. No, no. Tell me a story. He was always, you know, he was a, you know, like I said, this is the 90s, so I was a young kid, but he was always older. He was a hustler and, you know, something that you can look up to and, you know, try to keep youngsters that, you know, little bad kids out of trouble because, you know, he probably, we was thinking like, man, you know, but one of them guys, there was real OG in the hood that they really try to keep you straight. To this day. To this day. They try to keep you straight. Even though he was doing this thing then, he a totally different guy than them, but, you know. He didn't try to get you all involved. No, no. He be like, y'all sit down, we play football, you know, they watch, you know what I'm saying? We play football all the time over there, but, so he, he'll give you real game. Take it all the way back. He'll give you real game. You be that little popper the same thing. I'm just asking, you know, some people who do what you did. You can do what you did. You can do what you did. No, some people who do what you did, they'll be like trying to recruit. No, no. I'm on another level. I'm city to city. City to city. City to city. That's what I'm saying. I'm city to city. I'm not dealing with neighborhoods like that. You don't, you don't know the business. It's not Jamaica. I know it's family for sure. I know it's family. Everybody, he know everybody. That's the one thing about him. He know everybody. When he see me on here, he knew. We like, yeah. How many girls used to see me on here? That's what he does. That's the bottom line. That's what he's talking about. You know, just like I'm saying about everything he been doing, been top tier. So I know when he in this game is gonna be top tier for sure. Yeah. I know. And that's the way we always brought it. You know what I'm saying? I think that's what people don't realize that there's some real stumped down dudes in the city that can bring up some creativity like yourself, you know and do something that gonna make waves that's gonna touch the world. That's the whole game. Touch the world, man. Don't play with this. Your skills say, I love the fact that you say you going out there and work with sick because at the end of the day, what's your gift deals, man? Can bless a whole lot of people, man. Man, well, honey. And that's the part where I want to see you do that Miami film. Like come down there and get on the boat, baby. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You want that one too, right? No. You need it. You need that. I'm sticking with it, man. I'm still. Check it, man. Hey, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss's talk. And we out.