 Okay, we're back here live at Oracle OpenWorld. This is SiliconANGLE and Wikibon's theCUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the advanced extract that's sitting there from the noise. Again, big day, day three of three days of live coverage at Oracle OpenWorld. Exciting year this year. Oracle engineered systems, got all the press. Ecosystem's doing great amongst Oracle. Four years ago, a little bit different, kind of a field there with the ecosystem that's just doing great. And of course, the big news, the America's Cup where Larry Ellison is watching his boat. Try to win the biggest comeback. He blew off the keynote last night. So that was a big story here this week. We're with Annie McClure, CTO, our next guest global database technologies. Welcome to theCUBE. Hi, John, how you doing? So, EMC, you're with EMC, a lot of database technology coming out of EMC. I mean, obviously big data and the storage. Absolutely. Dave said storage is like spinning rust. But with flash, converged infrastructure, portfolio of solutions, and a horizontal stack, as Joe Tucci calls it, EMC's got some serious chops on the database side. Absolutely. And we met a bunch last night. Folks with great experience from Sybase are real deep domain expertise in database. That's your group? Absolutely. That's my group. Yes, I work for Brian Gallagher in our enterprise storage division. And we're focused on global database technology. So we care a lot about all of the data bases that our customers run. So whether that's Oracle, Sybase, DB2, or SQL server. And we're optimizing those systems and giving them better value through the functionality that you can get within a VMAX array or a VNX array. So most recently, this past year, we've been focused on the VBlock specialized system that Joe Tucci talked about at the keynote earlier this week. So that specialized system for high performance database workloads. So that's where we're taking advantage of our flash technology. So our extreme SF card and our extreme software cache that we've now put into the server layer that's driving 3.7 million sustained flash read IOPS for databases. It could be Oracle. It could be SQL server. It could be DB2. And we're seeing we were measuring our latencies, which are less than 500 microseconds. So we're seeing some really great performance through that. And we're offering it as an integral and we're offering it as an integrated stack through VCE. So that VBlock specialized system. So it runs actually physical. So it runs Linux. So it doesn't have to run VMware. You can run it virtual as well. So we're seeing quite a bit of great performance from that. You know, this is our fourth Oracle Open World theCUBE, which everyone's watching right now. It was started in 2010 at EMC World. And then Sapphire. We're going to Sapphire that next week. And then Oracle later on the year. We've been around four years. So we kind of watched the progression of the ecosystem around Oracle. We also watched the emergence of VCE, which at the time was kind of like not really well understood back four years ago. And high end we talked to Levi's and all your top clients. But the notion of what you guys are doing with VBlock was really interesting, virtualizing the environment. Absolutely. We had Sanjay on the past who was the CIO at EMC. So you guys have had a lot of track records. So a lot of people just don't know the extent of EMC's depth and investment in this area. So I want you to take a quick second to explain to the folks out there who might have the perception you guys are Johnny come lately into the outside of storage into this now converged software driven software led infrastructure. So explain to the folks out there some of the depth and expertise you guys have with the software approach, with the database. Again, you can't just throw bodies at this. It's got a unique skill set, domain expertise. Absolutely. Share some color on that please. Yeah, well I think that I've been in the database world for the last 25 years. And I think that the databases have gotten very large. And you have to deal with that. So the last thing to virtualize in any data center is that database. So now we're offering the movement of those physical databases on to x86. So and do that physically and then virtualize. So the amount of compute power and memory that we can bring into the UCS server, you gain that. And then you'll see it was announced earlier this week to our new plugins for Vmax and for VNX which you open up right in Oracle Enterprise Manager and it helps you to know exactly where your data is and how to manage that. And then we've worked really tightly with Oracle on our replication technologies with snapping and cloning and creating dev environments for Oracle and all of that. And then we also do tiering. So a piece of the EMC value proposition that's brought to the table both on Vmax and VNX is fully automated storage tiering. And we automate that with one of our tools called database classify, which is really a DBA tool. So if you want your IO to be up in flash and you're driving it from the database, we do that for Oracle and SQL server and then as DB2 as well. Also as a CTO you got to have your hands on the wheel in terms of the technology under the hood as well as have a good feel for the marketplace. Extreme IO acquisition was one that was not a big number but it was kind of still a big number, but not like the David Goulden billion dollar number that he normally does. Sure, absolutely. So there was a lot of speculation there was going to be a lot of stuff added in with Extreme IO. What's the status of Extreme IO? How is that fitting into the big picture? Sure, so Extreme IO is really not my particular area of expertise but it's certainly, so you can interview others for that area of expertise but absolutely flash everywhere is our strategy. So dealing with all flash arrays to deliver the performance that's needed and in fact under VCE again, they came out with a specialized system for VDI that's all based on an Extreme IO flash array. It's not my area of expertise again but they're driving that area but you'll see us with all flash arrays, flash PCIe cards and servers, flash in the storage arrays, et cetera. Let's talk about Vblock, right? So you've got VMware doing their thing, so put VMware out on the side but Vblock in itself was a great vision. Executing well, doing well was part of Joe Tucci's report in the numbers. It's doing great. Absolutely. But now you've got OpenStack, new cloud formats going on. So there's a lot of challenges outside the high end implementations where the mid mainstream market wants a Vblock or they want orchestration, they want service management. These things are coming into a clearer picture for enterprises. Yes. What's the plan? What's going on there? Give us the update on Vblock because Vblock is a really great high end solution. Is it coming into the mid range? What's happening? I think it's beginning to address all of those particular customer venues. So certainly there's customers today that still want to roll their own on server, sand and storage configurations and there's absolutely something to be said for the integrated vertical stack and that's really what Vblock brings to the table. So it puts the server, the networking and the storage all in one unit fully integrated, fully tested, non-disruptive upgrades, et cetera and that's really as you go into dealing with large volumes of data in a data center, you want to be able to just automatically provision, automatically procure, et cetera in that environment and it makes it easy to manage. So how about Vblock for high performance databases around the accelerating, around the Oracle environment? What do you guys have done with Vblock within an Oracle environment? Yeah, I'd have to say our special sauce is with our extreme software cache. So we got that extreme software cache to work with the PCIe flash cards called Extreme SF and that's where the real magic is. So it's considered kind of like the microcode that runs a PCIe card and we've gotten that to work quite nicely with Oracle Rack and then it knows about the persistency of writes, et cetera down into the storage. So whether that's Vmax or VNX and we've been able to qualify that for those environments and drive that kind of workload. So you feel really good about the Oracle environment right now with Vblock? Absolutely, yep. Well anybody that needs 3.7 million sustained IO per second that really talks to itself, right? And 32 gigabytes a second of throughput and then we're seeing 21 terabytes on the data load rates for data warehouses so it really is quite a nice solution. For the folks as old as I am who know the old EMC, if you look at the marketing campaigns from the 90s, the speed has always been a big EMC performance. That's impressive benchmarking. Those numbers are very impressive. Let's talk about the DBA, right? So on stage, Jeremy Burton had the demo. It was a great demo. Sam was up there doing the demo. Yeah, he's awesome. So it's a DBA focus issue which is good because a lot of DBAs out there saying, hey, I want to do more things. You're in the database world, you know what's going on. DBAs need to do more, right? So the role of the DBA is changing. Absolutely. How do you personally see that? I mean put your hat on, personal hat on as an industry participant, someone who has been around the block here in that area. What's going on with the DBA? What are they going to turn into? Brokering, pushing buttons on the screen, self-service catalog. Yeah, I'll probably go out on a scary limb here for you. But we used to have the storage administrator that was managing one or two terabytes of storage. Now they have to manage hundreds of terabytes of storage. You had to virtualize that, right? And then system administrators were managing five or six systems. Now they're managing hundreds. You had to virtualize that. I believe the DBA of tomorrow is going to be managing hundreds of databases, not just your three or four. And you're going to see their world have to virtualize. It's the next layer up in the stack that's going to virtualize, and you've got to have the automation tools there to support that for the DBA. And so yeah, it's going to be a little bit more control over that infrastructure layer so that they can do their jobs, deliver on backup recovery, deliver on workload sharing between data centers, deliver on performance, deliver on backup, the whole routine. It's just going to be a different game, I think, for the DBA of tomorrow. So we're focused on it. My customer is absolutely the DBA. I wish you had more time. I know you got a heart set. We'll try to keep you for every single minute. So I'm going to try to go up against the hour here. I know you got another appointment. No problem. It's great to have you in the queue. Yeah, great to be here. You're a tech athlete, as Dave and I always say. It's like I'm like getting a little intoxicated on this great, great action here. But I got to ask you about the data science pieces. Now you're talking about analytics. We're also involved. So now it's like a little bit of big data in there. I mean, the DBA is going to be the air traffic control for the data, right? Yes. They're going to have a dashboard. It's the next control point. If you're going to virtualize everything, you've got automation. Yep. You've still got the runways and all the different databases out there. Right. So how does the analytics play into all this? Oh, absolutely. So we are working with solving the analytics problem. So thanks. That is my future. So, but it really is a journey for our enterprise client to get to big data. So clearly we're trying to drive that with our pivotal initiative, et cetera. And from a database perspective, you're dealing with structured databases, unstructured databases, in-memory data structures today. And it's opening up the world of kind of the traditional database up into the now unstructured Hadoop, NoSQLs, et cetera. And you know, let's go back to when the world said the mainframe was going to go away, right? Remember that? Yeah. Mainframe never went away, right? It just shrunk. Yeah, exactly. I got it. So you have second platform here that's defined by IDC. And in that second platform are your traditional databases, Oracle, Sybase, SQL Server, DB2. And then in the world of third platform, it's all about Hadoop, NoSQL, Open, et cetera. And you got to make all those worlds come together. Okay, let's stay on that. So I own that. Let's stay on the limb now. Since we're out on the limb, and you went out on the limb, we're going to stay on the limb. So, yeah, virtualized storage. Don't go shawing it off, go for it. Virtualized, no, never. It's a cube. That's safety net. Safety net, safety net. That's safety net here. So virtualized storage, virtualized database, what's beyond, what's that next level of virtualization? Virtualized the data, is it like compiler kind of stuff? What's going on with the software? Well, I'll tell you what. Your driver of that is the data scientist that's running the analytical query. So if you're not offering the technology to the federated query that goes across all three platforms and delivers that information back to the data scientist, that's the true driver of the next customer. The next customer for us is really the data scientist that's trying to deliver on that federated analytical query. There it is, right there. Instrumentation. I'm going to go out on the limb and predict that instrumentation of data will be a big deal. I like that, John. That's an excellent word for that. That's an excellent word for that. TTO of the EMC's database group. Thanks for coming on theCUBE. Great group of people. Absolutely. Let's once say, in meeting the folks from EMC, you guys have a lot of good guys on your team. Some serious chops you guys have built out. Great job. Yeah, we have. VCs doing great. It's going to go mainstream. This is theCUBE. We'll be right back with our next guest after this short break. That's Annie McClure here at CTO at EMC. We'll be right back. Awesome. Thank you, John. That's a good jug.