 So, I'm going to call the meeting to order. First thing is to review and approve the agenda and we don't have a ton on our agenda tonight. Any thoughts on changes. Well, we can go into executive session if you choose. Sure, we as a discussion, you don't actually have to add this to agenda you have the action item is the appointment of this, the seat. So, an executive session doesn't have to be warned you can still vote to go into executive session anytime you want as long as you meet the criteria. I know, but we usually try to put it out of the knowledge that so I thought we're changing the agenda. That's fair. I think it's fair to assume that we probably won't. We'll get both sets of minutes because I'm looking at the email I sent out. I got to but I got one this July and one that's August 18 I didn't get a call. Oh, oh, oh, that was not right. Okay, sorry about that. So, so we want to include the minutes and the consent agenda. It's not. Well, we can. If you all didn't have a chance to look at it. Well, you emailed them to us. They were on the link for the meeting. Okay. Yeah, just those two. Oh yeah, no, they're there. Oh yes, thank you. Yes, I'm going to do that. Okay. I'm otherwise hearing no changes to the agenda. So we'll consider the agenda approved onto general business and appearances. This is an opportunity for any member of the public to address the council on a topic that is not otherwise on our agenda. If folks. Yeah, there will be an opportunity for public comment. Just prior to or as a part of the appointment to district three city councilor seat. So if you have a comment about that, then that can go then. Otherwise. Yeah, you have something. Not on the agenda. You'd like to save now would be good. If you would say your name where you live and try to keep your comments to two minutes that would be wonderful. Go ahead. I want to raise a couple things I've raised already that the, the task force meant homelessness task force meant today and their best effort for addressing the potential wave of over 100 people on house this winter is to try to use city money to buy some rooms of the city. And that is the most desirable option. I think you all need some executive level intervention in the effectiveness of that committee. You can continue to delude yourself and think they're making progress, but that is not the case in two years. The city needs to city manager needs to be directed to enforce the lease terms for the bathrooms at the transit center. We're not had or manage the bike path, the crack ceiling is going to go really destructive. There's no crack ceiling on the section between Taylor Street and the bridge. There's one inch wide cracks. There's a tunnel and that longitudinal that need addressing I brought it to public works and no action. The shelter has still not been power washed. Despite the health hazard that was acknowledged by our health officer fire chief. A month ago, six weeks ago. Somebody went through the multi use path with a mower looks like a drunk driver doing a hit and run operation. Just running over trash leaving it all the shredded trash etc. Just an abomination. The transit center handicapped doors I was following somebody in on in a wheelchair. The panels and the electrical wires are still hanging there how it got our building inspector certified that building is occupiable when we never bothered to finish the handicapped controls for the Taylor Street doors is Let's just say it's another example of America's most mismanaged small town capital. Thank you. Anyone else. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Peter. I'm Peter Kellman. I live in District three in Montpelier. And as a resident of that district, I would like to thank the city council for extending the deadline for applications to be appointed to fill the council vacancy created by the departure of Dan Richardson. I think it's clear that this extension resulted in four applications, all from well qualified individuals who collectively represent a considerably more diverse background experience than has generally been the case for city council members. And I would venture to say that without the extension, this would not have been the case. Indeed, you may have received as few as a single application by the time of the previously announced deadline. And I would urge the council to continue to be cognizant of the need for clear, timely and transparent communication to Montpelier residents, especially those may be directly impacted by matters before the council and those who may be underserved and represented. And in this regard, I'd like to repeat the concerns I voiced at the prior meeting that the city website and other communication efforts by city government are falling short of what is needed in today's complex media environment and should be reviewed and improved. In addition to the examples I cited at the last meeting, I mentioned two examples that arose in just this past week. The nearly citywide boil water notice, which many people did not see, or if they did, they did not understand it applied to them, because the long list of streets wasn't included in the notice itself, and proved to be quite difficult to access, particularly by smartphone. Moreover, there were no updates on the city website over the weekend, leaving many people anxiously asking if anyone knew whether it was still in force or not. The second is a consent agenda item on tonight's agenda labeled approval of a resolution for a VCDP planning grant application. Talk about a lack of transparency. Almost no one outside of this room would have any idea what this is about, unless they very carefully read today's rather long times artist article about tonight's meeting as I did, and or open the agenda items files and clicked on Habitat Resolution 2021. I'm not wrong. I'm very much in favor of such affordable workforce housing development, even in my neighborhood. But this is exactly the kind of project that raises NIMBY fears. And so it should be communicated about early and often to engage those who may be affected, both neighbors who might object, and people who might need such housing. To engage in effective folks at the early stages, will the city ever be successful in actually addressing issues like affordable housing and energy conservation. The parking garage fiasco shows what happens when people feel however inaccurately and unfairly that the city and the city council are pulling a fast one over the public and using tax dollars to support private enterprise. I don't believe that myself. In this resolution, I suggest that be removed from tonight's consent agenda, and then emotion be made and discussed to take this up in a subsequent meeting as a regularly discussed posted agenda item with a title that makes clear what it is about. I just want to add just a little bit further that the district three city counselors including the new one that will be named tonight, communicate with their constituents about this matter, and encourage them to learn more about this potential housing development project in their neighborhood, as well as the one on the Brown Derby property that hasn't been talked about, despite the fact that I tried to get it talked about publicly with people in our neighborhood. Thank you. Anyone else? I see. Zach Watson, go ahead. Thank you madam mayor I just wanted to. Thank you, Peter for his comments. I work for central one habitat for humanity. We have we, and are putting this resolution forward excited that the city council is looking at this for us. I just wanted to let folks know that we did have a public hearing on Monday. And unfortunately, nobody showed up. That was unfortunate that's part of the community development block planning process. We posted it as was required with the community development block grant program, which was in the newspaper, and it's just too bad that we didn't have some more folks there so, but we have been communicating with folks in the public about this. Just want to reiterate that this is a planning grant, which we have not received yet all this is doing is giving us permission to apply for it. So, Peter, when the, and forever for other folks, if the grant is approved, there will be plenty of opportunity for input from the community to make sure this is something that meets the needs and the desires and the culture here in Montpelier. But thank you for your comments on that, Peter. And I do hope the city council will take up this resolution tonight so that we can submit this application in it before the application deadline is due. Alright, thank you. Morgan, go ahead. Yes, Zachariah comments. No, not with ceiling. I second. Peter's comments and concerns about tonight's consent agenda and think it's worthy of consideration. Thank you. What I meant was Peter's comments about tonight's consent agenda is worthy of consideration. Thank you. Yep. Thank you, Morgan. All right. Any further comments? Okay. So we're going to move on then to the consent agenda and I actually need to recuse myself from item C. So is if we could, if there would be a motion without item C that would be great. I move we can send agenda without item C. Okay, so motion in a second. Any further discussion? Okay. Yes, Donna, go ahead. I just didn't hear a deadline for when we needed to have this done. I have what done the resolution in order to for item C. Yes. There, we could ask that Zach, are you still there. I'm still here. Good question, Donna. So the, the Vermont Community Development Program will be reviewing the applications in November. They would like to have applications in some time they have a goal of mid September. So basically, this is the last piece of the application we need to put forward and if after we submit it, there's still some additional information that's needed. That's why we're putting it forward now so that we can have plenty of time to address whatever requested Vermont Community Development Program needs. It's a big application is pretty happy lots of work went into it. Thank you. Does that clarify. We could do it at our next meeting. It would. So our next meeting is September 8. Would that be a sufficient date, Zach, I should probably not be talking about this. I should not be talking about this. Jack, you want to run this part. Yes, thank you. I would just suggest as a point of order that we have a motion to adopt the consent agenda without that item. I suggest we take that up and then take up an item from the habitat. That's fair. I think I can run this part then. Okay, sorry. Thank you. All right, so There's motion and a second about Parts A and B any for the discussion. Okay, all in favor please say aye. And great. Thank you. And opposed. All right, so that is that passes. I will leave you to the discussion or not about item C. Oh, I like it. I'm not going to call on me. So this is just about the previous just because we just approved the firefighters contract. Yes. I just, I just want to take a moment while we're doing something for the firefighters and just appreciate. I mean, I was just thinking back to when COVID started and, you know, our firefighters, paramedics, EMTs were out there in the community. I think back to when we knew nothing about COVID and they were have been going out, you know, into people's homes have been out there in the community helping people in need. And I know I'm grateful and the community. People I've talked to have just been so grateful for, you know, all that they've been doing for us. And so I just want to take a moment to appreciate and thank our firefighters and the team over there for for being there through really hard times. And, you know, so just want to take a moment to say thanks. Yep, I agree. Thank you. All right, Jack. Okay, thank you. We're now on to item C of the Consent Agenda. What's your pleasure on this item? Is there a second? I'll second it. Any discussion. Let's see if there's discussion from the council. Lauren. I have a quick question. I think, Zach, so you, you alluded to that there's a lot of public input opportunity, like during so this is a feasibility study, the grant of the project, just, just wondering if you could talk like a little bit more just to, you know, Peter's point and Morgan, just curious like what that might look like so people would have a better sense of how they might engage in the process from here. Certainly. Thank you, Lauren. So, just, I think it's important to keep in mind this is a feasibility study. It's funds for a feasibility study for a fairly complicated parcel of land. And at this point, we are looking to determine whether it is even possible to build anything on this parcel. So that's stormwater. We're looking at stormwater mitigation plans. We're looking at, you know, what access might look like this is be an extremely difficult property to access. We're looking at how many houses we can build up there. Ultimately, all of that will contribute towards the determination of whether acquiring this property and building houses on it is even feasible. So, it's, at that point, if there is, if it is determined that this is a feasible project, then then we will actually talk, then we'll go through the DRB to, and there'll be public opportunities for public input at that point. Obviously, neighbors will be abutted. You know, the abutters will be notified of things like this. But this is going to take a lot to actually make this process, this project feasible. There's been a lot of discussion. And I know support from from folks in the community about the need for affordable housing. And I can tell you right now that community pushback and delays are going to make this even more challenging of a project. So, we just need to figure out if we can even do anything on this project to begin with. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate that perspective. I do think that, you know, I support moving forward with doing a feasibility study, but at the same time, I also want to make sure that we're making sure we're not limiting the community progression to just the abutters, because I think that you've got a really tight community geographically in that area. And so I know that there are obligations just to invite abutters but I think that we want to make sure that that I mean, if things do progress forward that we're looking at a broader outreach, whether it's by the city or whatever mechanism that's needed that we're making sure we're including folks in that whole area of the Northfield Street. Thanks. Any other comments from members of the council. Any comments from members of the public. Stephen Peter. Steve Whitaker. I came in Monday and looked at the city bullet board and for looked at all the meetings that were worn there. I didn't see a warning for a public hearing on this CDBG grant. And part of my concern is that we have a almost a chronic history of cutting corners. And while I support in concept habitat for humanities goals. I don't want to perpetuate this cutting corners. John, do you recall having a, a posting on the bullet board for a meeting that we were told was warned of public hearing on the CDBG application. No, but they're usually on my board. I don't really want to interrogate Zach about it, but my point is that the last grant that I spoke about was the 750,000 for stem for another way to put in a bathroom and showers that was three years ago and that bathroom and shower still isn't done. So, the, you all are well aware of the garage fiasco and the corners that were caught on that we can argue about that another day. But that didn't go unchallenged. Corners were not cut on the garage project. And there was ample, there are ample public hearings and. Okay, there was no traffic study of the truck impact. I have a comment that's germane to the ID. Well, you just, you just made the cut. You just opened it up. Just a little bit. I have a comment that's germane to the. It's germane to what you're you just challenged my comment that opened it up for it's now germane. You're a lawyer you should know that it's not germane. The other comments relating to. So I should have cut off your non germane comment. If you have a comment related to the feasibility study to help with you to make it. Yeah, I just want to echo what, what Jay, what Jay said about a broader than just the butters. And it's not just because this is Northfield speed or it's my district. I think this is a really important thing that I want the council to think about. Zach said, is true that this is very preliminary, and it will go before the DRB. And there are all these procedures. The problem is, I think that the council needs to go beyond the, the legally required procedure. I think it's required about having a meeting for our neighborhood about the about the brown derby situation. I was told, well, that's just for the butters. No, it's not just for the butters. It is the these kind of projects affect a major artery and a pretty intact neighborhood. This will be true no matter what the neighborhood was. I really think, Zach, in all due respect, going through the usual procedures. That's why there was nobody at your meeting, because you went through the usual procedures. You didn't make an affirmative effort to get people from the neighborhood. I'm not blaming you. But I think it's very important to make an affirmative effort to engage the people. In fact, engage the very people who are likely to, let me say it this way, have concerns. I went around my neighborhood and asked about the brown derby. Almost nobody in my neighborhood knew about it. And when I provided them with the information that I'd gotten from the development group, people raised questions. Nobody said, I don't want that. They raised questions about traffic, they raised questions about parking. They raised questions about whether there was really room for that many things. They raise legitimate questions. This is the time to engage them. I don't mean this moment. I mean, before you go ahead and do finish a feasibility study. Part of the feasibility study should be, will there be that kind of pushback that Zach talked about? Yeah, there will be. So let's head it off. Head it off by engaging people right away. And Jack, the point isn't that corners were caught. The point is that that's the perception. I think it's incorrect. You think it's incorrect. But that's the perception and you guys can do something about heading off that perception. And that's what I would urge you to do. I'm not saying to put this off. It should be, you should approve this. But I'm not sure you should approve it tonight. I think you should. But let's really say we're going to change the way we do these things. We're going to really make an effort to talk about these things very thoroughly, even when they're just an idea, please. Thank you. Thank you. Patrick, if you're trying to say something, you're muted. Anything further from the council? Are we ready for a vote? All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. The chair votes aye. And at this point, chair is returned to the mayor. Okay, thank you. All right, so we are up to the appointment for district three. All right, so we had four applicants for this position. And I see two of them here. And I am not sure if any of the others are joining us virtually. Cameron, are you running the virtual stuff? Is there another page or not? There's not. Okay, thank you. All right, well, so I at this point, I would love to invite the candidates who are here to come up and introduce themselves. Tell us about your interest in the city council. And I have a few questions. I have a couple of questions I'm going to ask of every candidate and so you're prepared. The questions I'm going to ask you are what are your top three priorities for the city? Or things that you would like to see changed in the city. And then second question. When you disagree with someone, how do you normally handle it? Just so you're prepared. That's what I'm going to ask. I don't know if other folks have questions that you're going to ask. If you do, if you'd like to offer them now, that's great. Otherwise, I mean, we can obviously spontaneously ask questions as well. Anybody else want to jump in? Okay, just checking. All right, so with that, either of you could go first. Good evening. My name is Alice Colts. I try to run for this position before I wind up getting 222 votes. I live in public housing. So I know what it's like to struggle. My concerns are about housing. My concerns are about with the mentally challenged, where there has been issues with the police and the shootings. I feel that there should be a social worker should escort them. I'm going to help. So things like this don't happen. I have to stand what it's like to struggle as a parent. Because I have a school crossing guard. So I see the kids every day and I talk to the parents. So I know how it is to struggle. I also know how it is to struggle as being disabled and being a parent. So I can be a support to other parents. And I feel that I want to help my constituents in this community. Thank you for your time. Yeah, thank you. If I can ask you one question. You kind of answered my question about things you'd like to see change in the city or your priorities. But any thoughts on like when you disagree with someone, how do you normally handle that? Well, when I disagree with somebody, I try to talk it out with them. Like I may not agree with everything you say. I may either tell them, well, let's talk about it. Let's try to come up with a resolution. Great. All right, well, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Any other questions for Alice? Okay. Great. Thank you. Is this all right? Yep. Hi, everybody. I'm Kerry Burnham. Thank you for your consideration for this position. I am a 25 year resident of Montpelier. I'm married to the city clerk. Many of you know, and I just want to address any kind of possible conflicts right up front about that. He and I have talked about this and my hope would be that the council could work out something where the city clerk's budget was separated from the rest of the municipal budget. So I would like to be involved in discussions about my husband's salary. And that's an obvious conflict. And if there are other potential conflicts or appearances of conflict that would come up from that, I'd be very open to working those out and very sensitive to that. So this is a position that I thought about pursuing at various times over the years, many times in the past. And this time seems like a good opportunity. I just want to acknowledge that you have some really very, very strong candidates for this role in front of you right now. I would hope that you don't hold it against anybody who's not here to speak for themselves tonight. I'm here because I have a very good sense being married to the city clerk having lived here for a long time and serving on the board of civil authority for many years. They're really good sense of how things work and what's going on. I wouldn't necessarily have known that it was an expectation that I'd be here tonight if I want that plugged in. So there may be other folks who aren't necessarily. So just a little bit about myself. I'm on the board of civil authority as I mentioned, I've been at Justice of the Peace since 2002. I work here in Montpelier as the executive director of the Vermont Commission on Women. And I've been doing that for nine years. And I have two kids. One has graduated from Montpelier High School and the other is in senior year at Montpelier High School. I live on St. Paul Street. We've lived there for 20 years, 21 years. Wow, 21 years. And I would say that my, really my big concern about Montpelier is about the livability of the city. And I have found this to be a wonderful place to live and to raise kids in many, many ways. I think that there are, there are a lot of folks though in our city who have had a harder time with that. Being able to find affordable housing, quality housing, being able to access educational opportunities, being able to access transportation, things like that, I think are easier for some of us in the city than for others. So I come from a position of relative privilege. And so that makes things easier for me. That's not been the case for a lot of other folks in Montpelier. So I am very appreciative of the work that you've done lately looking at our homeless neighbors and feel very encouraged about that and anything that we can do to make Montpelier inclusive and equitable and a welcoming place is very, very high up to me. I also would say that my concerns about transparency and open government are really high and up there. And I wouldn't say that Montpelier is doing a terrible job with that, but it's always something that needs to be kept at a very high value. And I mean just, you know, the example of not my, not necessarily knowing that being here tonight was, was important is just an example of a little bit of communication that could really probably serve to be a little bit more welcoming to the people who aren't in Montpelier as tuned in. And I also, I get inordinately excited about tiny little administrative details. And so for instance, I know that you all have been working on updating and kind of cleaning up city ordinances for quite a while now. And I know there's a lot more to do on that. I know that in Montpelier it is illegal for a woman to be a prostitute, but it's not illegal for a man to be a prostitute. Because the ordinances haven't been cleaned up and looked at in a while and I would, I would love to get in there and dig around, try to fix stuff like that. And even if I weren't part of city council, that's actually something I would love to be involved in. If it's something you're going to take up again, that's important. So as far as handling this agreement, I'm not a particularly conflict oriented person. I'm also not likely to just kind of let things go by. If I disagree with them, I will speak up and say, say something about it. I think from what I've observed at this group, this seems like a pretty well-functioning group where people have, I'm making some assumptions, but if you look like you share common values and you share common goals, and so that always makes it easier when there's agreements about how to get to those goals when there isn't disagreement about these wonderful goals. And so that certainly helps. And then I would just want to say one more thing, which is that I know that among the other applicants for this position, there are people who represent perspectives that I, as a white woman of some privilege, could never represent on this, on this body. And if I were in your shoes, I would be seriously considering those perspectives as incredibly valuable. And so that's all I have. Happy to answer any questions. Great. Thank you. Any other questions? You go ahead, Donna. No matter what, you may be on that committee for audiences. Honestly, we hear things like that and we remember. Great. Great. Well, thank you very much. And just to check, Lauren, I didn't turn around to see if you had anything, but Lauren, no questions. Okay. Great. Thank you. All right. And also just want to check in to see if, if either Jean Leon or Jennifer Morton are with us virtually. And I don't see them. I just want to check. I'm assuming this hand from Brian Pete is not, but he wants to say something. I think that's the mouse. Thank you. Okay. That's a new one. I don't know. Okay. And for, for now, this is, it's still okay for folks from the public to comments. So go ahead, Morgan. Morgan Brown. District three president. I just want to voice my support for Alice Colts. She was a former neighbor of mine and I consider her a friend. She does a lot of work behind the scenes. Many people might not be aware of. What she quietly does. On behalf of others. And she's very diligent. She takes the time. And she asks a lot of questions. And. I think. She's worthy of consideration. And I would ask you to. If I had a vote, I'd be vote for Alice. I signed her petition. This time around and also when she ran for her election. And as she mentioned. She did get 222 votes, you know, in her first time out. And I think that was impressive. And it speaks to. You know, the many people that. Already know her and, and that she's been involved with over the years. So. Please. Consider her for appointment. Thank you. Thank you, Morgan. Mayor, this is that cues. Go ahead, Zach. I think you guys have a very. Very different perspective. I think it's a very different person for his service. On the council. And I'm sorry to see him. Go. But I wanted to say you guys have, you all have a unique opportunity tonight. To bring a very. New perspective to the council. That will. That is very. She's very diligent. She comes from a past life of being a parent and out there every day doing the crossing guard thing. And basically being very passionate about the issues. And I think this is a very unique opportunity for the council tonight. To look at bringing. Alison. Provide a very unique perspective. That is. Rarely seen. Here. Thank you very much. I'm in support of Alice Colts. Thank you. Thank you, Zach. Anyone else. Okay. All right. So. With that. I am in anticipation that we would go into executive session. Jack. I move that we go into executive session to. Discuss. Appointment of a public officer or employee pursuant to one DSA section. 313. I'll second it. Okay. It's been a motion and a second. Any further discussion. Okay. All in favor, please say aye. And a post. Okay. And Lauren. We will. See you in the executive session. Thank you. Okay. See you. See you soon. And someone's going to bring a laptop. Yep. And we will return to. This room. In a bit. We're able to get in touch with one of them. Who has since joined. On the. In the zoom. Oh, okay. Great. Thank you. I keep talking. So you can. Great. Okay. Thank you. All right. So. I believe I saw Jennifer Morton. Join us here in the zoo. Welcome Jennifer. So we would love to. Hear from you about your interest in joining the city council. And then just to, to give you a heads up. I have a couple of questions I'd like to ask. One is. What are your top three priorities for the city? Or top three ways in which you'd like to see the city change. Second question is when you disagree. With someone. How do you see the city change? Okay. So the second question is when you disagree with someone, how do you normally handle that? Hopefully that's clear enough through my mask. And. All right. I'm going to turn it over to you, Jennifer. Okay. Thank you, everybody. I'm sorry. I had no idea that you were all meeting tonight and that I was. Even a contender still. So I apologize. Thank you. And also I'm not prepared at all because I didn't know this was going to happen. So. You know, I work for the youth. I've worked at the youth service bureau in Washington County years ago. I've worked for spectrum and I work for the family center of Washington County. So, you know. Folks that are precariously housed or unstably housed or homeless. I've worked for the youth service bureau in Washington County. I've worked for the youth service bureau in Washington County. I've worked for community members. I've worked with for over 20 years, both here in Vermont and in Oregon. So anything to help support those communities. And uplift those communities. Really important. For me. As is affordable housing. You know, there's not a lot of infrastructure right now for that. But those are things that are really important to me because. You know, there's not a lot of infrastructure. You know, there's not as much as much as they say. Also, you know, equity for the BIPOC community. I'm an indigenous woman and moving to Vermont from. A place where there was a much larger. Indigenous community. In Oregon and then coming here to central Vermont. And I've been on the commission for Native American affairs for the state of Vermont for the last four years. We've made a lot of wonderful changes, but I think having some sort of. Community center or place to gather. Would be really important for a lot of indigenous people that live. Here in Montpelier. We all stay in our houses and we would like to gather. So. I'm not a homeowner. Also, I've talked to a lot of my neighbors and there's a lot of talk about the roads. I'm not a homeowner. I'm a renter. And I think I'm in the minority. As far as. Central city council folks. But I would like to be a homeowner. And so talking to my neighbors about the roads and. You know, various issues is still something that I'm working on. I'm not a homeowner. I'm not a homeowner. I'm not a homeowner. I was nominated by a neighbor. So this is all very new to me. And I apologize. What was your final question? Well, yeah, no worries. The last question was when you. Disagree with someone. How do you normally handle that? Or what does that look like for you? You know, I approach everything. And I think what I'm trying to, what I'm trying to do is to be a homeowner. And so I'm not sure is, is how I walk through the world. Right? So. I know that a lot of people don't agree with. My thoughts and that's okay. Everybody's, you know, allowed to have their own opinions and thoughts and. You know, in a perfect world, we would all be able to have good conversations where everybody's communicating in a good way and hearing each other. And sometimes that happens and sometimes it doesn't. myself calm and try to just actively listen to the other person Try and understand where they're coming from and you know staying calm Staying calm is important. I have two small kids. So that is something that I am working on every day Not just as a social worker, but as a parent and a neighbor and Great, thank you so much So I don't want to if you have more to say I don't want to Cut you off. Oh, no, you're good. You're good. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions that folks from the council may have for Jennifer Connor, go ahead. I think I probably ask all three candidates here while we have them in the room by no means is a binding, but this term only goes to March at what point there'll be another election. Maybe start with Jennifer Is your intention again, you can always change your mind. Would you would you run for election for the seat. If you were appointed tonight. You know, that's something that I was talking to my husband about and also my ceremony community because I'm really engaged in my ceremony community and actually, yes, I think I would try to stay on. I don't want to just Halfway do something. I'm going to commit to something I want to commit. Thanks. And I just asked the other to the same question. Okay. Thanks so much. Are there any other questions or comments from council. Okay, great. Thank you. And thank you so much, Jennifer for for joining us in a sort of last minute way. I'm glad that we were able to get in touch with you. Oh, I think you're muted sorry. Thank you. Good. Okay, so at this point, we are probably going to go back into executive session. We'll have some further conversation and then we'll come back. Okay, so is there emotion will be enter executive session to discuss the appointment of the public official pursuant to one VSA 31383. I'll second it. Okay, further discussion. All in favor please say aye. Aye. And opposed. Okay. Thanks very much we will be back. Second. Hi. Hi. We are in regular session. I just wanted to check more time just to see if Jean had joined us. Not as that accurate. Okay. So. Yep. So I want to make a motion that we appoint Jennifer Morton to fill the vacant. District three seat until. The election at Tom meeting day in March. It's really. It's wonderful to have wonderful, qualified candidates. So thank you and best of luck for the future. Yes, go ahead. My name is Alex and I don't think it was very clear that this woman came into this, um, into this meeting at the last second. You know, I don't think it was fair to me or the other person. And I think that this should be, this should be another meeting about. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I believe that the, this is a, an example of the way this council does business. This is cutting corners to in effect install somebody. This has happened with Jack seat. This happened with, you know, Y'all are manipulating the process when you call a person who didn't show up. It's just totally improper use of executive session. And then extend and go hold a second executive session. In order to install that person. Uh, it's just totally improper. It reeks of the, the constant, uh, unethical and improper actions by this. Thank you, Stephen. I guess I would also just like to add that. We wanted to do everything we could to ensure that. Everybody who. Wanted to be involved to be involved. And we were able to reach out to both candidates, but for that. So anyway, there we are. Thank you again. And I think that is the end of our regular business. We are on to council reports. Don, you don't have to go first. It's really great to be back live and hope that I can continue to be here. We will probably alternate being quarantined for one reason or another, but it's good to be here. Yep. Okay. I just want to thank. Just want to thank the people who. Applied. We have great public service among. More than one of the candidates and I. Appreciate your application and your. Desire to serve. Lauren. Yeah, I would just echo gratitude for everyone who put themselves out there and, um, And I know it's great to be here. Um, I'm just going to start off with, uh, carry on our ordinance updates and many other things and, um, our other folks as well. Um, and other than that, I will pass. Uh, all right. And I will pass for the evening, John. Okay. Um, Bill. Just see you all next week for strategic planning. Come with your big, big vision hats on. Is it. Yes. I'm Bill. I'm the city manager. If you can get in touch with our office tomorrow, when you chance to give us contact info, maybe we can find a time to talk before next Wednesday to try to get you up to speed at least a little bit. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome aboard. Thank you very much. Yeah. All right. So that is, that is it. All right. So without any further objection, we will adjourn 839. Thank you. I just didn't just got this thing around to be signed. So make sure you go.