 Get it next week. I mean, yes, you could buy a Samsung or something like that But if you're gonna stay in iOS you yeah, I did. I just don't think that um, I Don't know. I don't know if it if the spec bump is worth it on this form factor. I really loved The seven plus I loved that larger form factor But I don't know if it's you know, $1400 worth me if you don't have an iPhone 10 Then it's tempting. Yeah, you have an iPhone 10 But you really miss that bigger screen then it's tempting, but otherwise I don't see they you know This is not for people who just need a new phone I would have gone for it if it were closer to the 11 or 12 or a thousand range Well, the 1400 is the 512 model If I'm not gonna get small I'm not getting that 64 But like but honestly like with iCloud. It's like hey, I don't know I need all my data local. Yeah. Okay. Okay. No, that's no, no, no. I've got full closets I'm with you in general Sarah, but the one thing that that Specifically with these newer iPhones man like that 4k video stacks up so quick and Now you're right. It's true. Well, yeah, 256 is what I have now and I I couldn't downgrade but but $1500 is That's too rich for my blood one minute warning. All right our video and Discord and see the little live thing up there. We're all good Live live live could you do the honors of the line three read today? Are you talking to me? Yes? I am. Sorry. I should have said your names. You knew that Just say hey you and I'll always know. Yes Yes, of course 30 seconds So the reason I'm doing the county the the time timing now is that way I don't have to try to get guess what time it is and write it down for the patreon now I'll know it's it's gonna be 18. It's gonna be 18 minutes in a good day internet That's when I can write it down if we just start when I say make sense to my 15 seconds Does mean that we spend a lot of time saying how many seconds five Three two one Thanks everybody who supports daily tech news show directly to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash supports This is the daily tech news for Thursday, September 13th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio fila and I'm Sarah Lane From Oakland, California. I'm Justin Robert young And on the fringes. I'm Roger Chang the fringes of respectability as well as Humanity sure that that is that is a great Hailing from hailing from the fringes. It's Roger Chang. Yeah, which ones all of them all of them one one of these days I'll start selling supplements Please please put that in the store daily tech news show comm slash store Justin brought us a good topic today. We're gonna talk about Breaking them all up not just the Yankees the Google the Facebook the Amazon, but let's start with a few tech things You should know The European Court of Human Rights or EC HR has ruled that the UK's government communications headquarters failed to provide Sufficient oversight and surveillance safeguards on bulk data collection violating article 8 of the European Convention on human rights However, the court also ruled that the agency's sharing of data with foreign governments was not illegal and bulk data Interception was okay so long as safeguards were in place the case was brought to the court by 14 human rights and privacy rights Organizations in an email sent to switch owners Nintendo stated the September 18th system updates gonna lock your profile to whatever Nintendo account it's on now used to be able to move them around not anymore So you should ensure that your switch profile is assigned to the account You'll want it to be assigned to because it'll be impossible to unlink it after the 18th The change will allow users to manage cloud game saves downloadable content And of course if they buy it the Nintendo switch online membership Privacy-focused browser brave filed complaints against Google and other companies in the UK and Ireland based on GDPR Brave and its co-plaintiffs say that these firms aren't complying Because when a user visits a website personal data that described them as being shared without their knowledge This is my my reenactment of what happened when this showed up at Google put it on the stack All right, let's talk a little bit more about Facebook What are they doing? Well Facebook announced a new tool to help reviewers analyze pictures for false content more quickly The system uses machine learning based on engagement signals like user feedback from Facebook to false flag false content that falls into three categories So manipulated or fabricated content or out of context content or something that has either a text or an audio claim Against it flagged content is sent to partner fact-checkers for review who use visual verification techniques and research data from experts and academics and government agencies to cross-check the content the tool is available to all of Facebook's 27 partners in 17 countries I'll be honest. This strikes me as a little look what look at me. Look at what I'm doing And I know Facebook kind of has to do that these days, but they are taking machine learning Which they know they can we know they can do they're taking computer vision, which we know they can do and they're Implementing it in their fact-checking system where machine learning identifies something and flags it for fact-checkers, which they we know they already do with posts Yeah, so this is just taking a few pieces that already existed and plugging them into each other and then putting a big press release out about it And they pass it off to their partner fact-checkers and as we have seen Over the last 48 hours between the weekly standard and think progress is its own hell portal portal to hell As they you know crossfire against each other This seems a little bit You know, I know that the horse has indeed left the barn, but you should see our new security measures For any future horse that might be eyeing the exits there might be another horse in this bar We're just saying it's not getting out. Yeah, look at what we did we had a lock and We had a piece of rope and so we added those together and now this barn I'm very often cynical about stuff like this But I do think that at the very least Facebook is publicly making an effort to say we want to try and have some kind of control over this content instead of just having it be engagement engagement engagement Well, yeah, I mean if this was a story about Facebook saying we're using machine learning to help identified false content in photos We'd all say what weren't you already doing that the whole idea of partner fact-checkers? Yeah, it sounds great It's you know people at universities government agencies But if that's actually identifying anything on a significant scale And that's something that facebook can put into a report six months from now That would that would be valuable Well, and they've been doing this with text with the partner fact-checkers Not like the partner fact-checkers thing is new, but you're right They can now have more cases to cite in a little while Snapchat announced 20 news partners including CNN CNN's coming back to snapchat Some people are very excited about that cosmopolitan daily mail Harper's Bazaar NBC news To curate stories from user-generated content on snapchats platform This is part of new content push in the media section discover Snapchat says that in the past month more than 75 million people have watched this type of content on discover Last year snapchat launched a stories everywhere initiative let users and news organizations embed snapchat content outside of the platform This is really smart snapchat knows that the one thing it still has going for it Is when stuff's happening people tend to snap it Not so much insta story it Although the insta story pretty much everything else about their lives But but when breaking news happens a lot of times news companies will look at snapchat because that seems to be Where people tend to capture things that are happening right at that moment more often still and so you know as as they slowly watch their I wouldn't say their users are eroding, but they're stagnating They want to play to their advantages and this is one of them Snapchat has always reminded me of a facebook before the news feed Like they have a core seed of a great idea that they were never able to really take to the next level And part of it is viral content and now they are trying to do it What this reads to me though is working with the news partners is All right, so we paid a lot of you guys to go hire other people to create stuff specifically for snapchat That money's run dry, but let's figure out a way that we can just pay one Person who still works on your staff to go and curate things that we can put your name on Well, you know in tom you sort of you said some people were excited about cnn coming back Let's say there's a natural disaster or some big news event right might go to twitter But i'm also kind of going to cnn.com half the time just to be like what's on the homepage But if cnn had a good curated snap discover story that I could hit really quickly that was that was um Based specifically on what I was looking for I might use snapchat more because you're right at least in my friend circle of the 30 to 40 people I followed at one point no one's using anymore But if it's a news tool then it's still a value to me Well, and I think what snapchat is hoping we'll see how likely this is You're still going to cnn Let's say if you're a fan of cnn and you're seeing embedded snaps there and you think oh, that's interesting I wonder what else is on snapchat you open snapchat to see What other things are in that discover section and cnn is one of the curators So you probably go into their channel first and see what's happening there Uh, my one last word on this is snapchat was built as a platform that issued virality And now this is them that they needed to make that turn I think maybe two or three years ago to embrace some element of this content breaking this Walmart acquired the crowd sourced on demand delivery marketplace corner shop at Sorry for 225 million dollars corner shop offers delivery from supermarkets pharmacies and specialty food retailers in Mexico and chile Which walmart says will continue after the deal closes last month walmart co-led a 500 million dollar investment in chinese online grocery service Dada jd doja Which is part owned by jd and back in january walmart partnered with ratukin to offer grocery delivery in japan As well as the sale of ratukin e-readers ebooks and audiobooks in the united states And they just announced three-hour grocery delivery in a few locations through jet.com Which which they're relaunching with a brand new look trying to be all localized. So walmart Pulling out all the stops Trying to compete with amazon here and say hey, we are still a powerhouse in retail And we're not going to be left behind by not being the folks who can deliver No matter the market Buying corner shop is super smart because you're getting into some some growth markets that maybe amazon isn't as strong at yet I totally agree and You know walmart's strategy has been interesting with this They they've really focused their marketing around the idea that you don't have to pay a membership fee That has been their attacking point in terms of Differentiating themselves from amazon. However, they do have a minimum order fee in a way that amazon does not for prime so This is this is curious to see where the the walmart shopper Wants to go what what do they feel more comfortable with paying something up front for a year's worth of stuff? years versus years worth of service or Is it well you got to order 50 bucks, but you never have to pay anything up front All right this next one I know a lot of you're going to just start throwing tomatoes as soon as you hear who's behind it But krebs on security reports on something called project verify From the mobile authentication task force Which is operated by the four major us mobile carriers for is an at&t to mobile and sprint so It's another take on authentication without passwords. It uses details from a person's phone as well as details from their mobile account And the idea here is yeah, you might be able to sim swap But that's not the only signal we're looking at so we could even stop sim swapping Because we know Where a customer is supposed to be and this isn't spying on them per se because they have to know where you are to Provide you cell phone super so they're saying we will will notice if you're not where you're supposed to be We'll look at the cryptographic signature tied to your sim card to say hold on is that the right sim card Task force is working on an app that would be pre-installed on their phones The app can also pre-populate data when you're signing up for a new account Put in your address your credit card all of that stuff The app is designed for mobile, but they say it could work on other devices. They're not necessarily going to limit it And they want it to be open for others to use They're not trying to lock it down to the particular characters carriers It's in private beta right now public beta testing is scheduled for some time next year So What do y'all think are you happy to let mobile carriers be the guardians of your authentication scheme? No No It's it's it's hard to hear this story and be like well, okay spine aside. How does this help me? I I can't I can't really think of Yes, there are scenarios where sure this might be helpful, right? But but in general I don't want any major Carrier to have this knowledge You know, I mean that that's the thing because they're using the stuff. They already know about you It's not like you're giving them any more information. You also will be in control of whether it's shared with another site They say So they're trying to do the right thing and say well, we're not just going to give it to them You decide whether they get it or not Fine, but but but creating a mobile authentication task force and and being like this is going to help you Not have to remember passwords anymore. It just sounds very messy to me It's very very interesting because These companies any kind of utility like something like like this tends to have a bit of a bad reputation We we oftentimes think more about the times that they fail or they frustrate us or they overcharge us or we have a hard time Dealing with them then we think about the miracle of cellular technology being in our lives at all times Uh, but I I do think that at the end of the day Uh, you're kind of Reputation wise priced out of me giving you more control over that's it. That's it. I think that's what sarah's saying too, right? Like it's not about what you're doing everything. They've lined out here is a great idea. Yeah, we can avoid Uh sim jacking, uh, we have the signals to make sure it's really you Uh, without having to rely on something But none of these companies have trust After the number of breaches the number of third party data sharing that's they've been caught doing They don't have your trust that they are going to implement it and operate it well Maybe they will and if they did it's actually a really good system It is but you have to trust the company also operate it the way they say they're going to operate it You're the same company that I had to keep my old plan on for eight years after it was uh depreciating because I got caught letting a third party sell my data to police departments Yes, uh, yeah, I mean those are all those are all real stories May I take a moment here before we move on to the next story though? Just a moment of Well, sure. I had two internet connections installed at my new place this morning AT&T and spectrum and they both went flawlessly Now of course me saying that means that both connections are going to go out tomorrow, but right. Yeah You no longer have internet. I had polite knowledgeable Installers from both places AT&T took less than 40 minutes spectrum took 20 minutes Had me up and running with exactly what I ordered working. Well, so I just you know We don't call attention to the good things when they happen often I mean again. These are miracles. They they all Miracle that has reshaped us in so many fundamental ways. We should praise them and they will be recorded in history as Just changing It does say something that tom was like may I take a moment? Yeah Or that I planned not to be here in the studio today because I knew it wouldn't go off on time Right, right. Yeah at the end of the day We will just remember the gifts they gave us and not remember that they tried to bundle it with a home camera and cable television for $60 more a month that we didn't want to pay. Oh the nostalgia sitting in the Comcast line On patrera avenue. Anyway, that's a story for a different time Elibaba affiliate and financial denies claims that it scoured equifax in order to gather code Confidential data and documents to help recruit staff for its own credit scoring service Now sources tell the wall street journal anonymous sources that and financial hired china-born canadian david zoo from equifax And that zoo looked up employee information at equifax to find potential hires for ant Zoo denies this and a statement ant financial says it quote did not use equifax intellectual property or trade secrets Including code algorithms or methodology in the development of our credit card rating product and financial has found a credit rating product Rather and ant financial has found absolutely no evidence of equifax software data or code having been transferred To our systems if anthony levandowski being accused of taking data from google to uber Is don't taste peak. This is volcano Like like this is like the same story, but with china I know it more And also i go out reputation if you're going to go from from uh alibama to equifax It's it's alien versus predator like, you know, whoever wins we lose Also, I like that equifax said we didn't want to involve federal prosecutors because we just didn't think they had anything that valuable Yeah, how are they going to help us? Yeah, um Decided already all got leaked out later. Anyway, so what are you gonna do? Hey, I got an idea. Why don't you enjoy the news in a fast efficient manner like my installers with daily tech headlines Each day in about five minutes you get all the headlines you need just subscribe to it at daily tech headlines dot com All right, so uh the verge a few days back had a great story about uh the monopoly busting cases Against google amazon uber and facebook. We may or may not get to uber. I think that one's more about price fixing and we've covered that a lot Uh apple also, we're going to give a short shrift and they they they kind of skip over it a little bit in their article as well Uh because apple being a hardware oriented company doesn't have quite The dominance that other companies do they also have a lower market share with them. It's more about the app store It's about hey, do they are they controlling their platform too closely? Uh and that's interesting, but let's let's dig into google amazon and facebook Uh google and facebook of course as we mentioned facing multiple gdpr lawsuits most recent being that one from brave We mentioned and google of course under antitrust investigation in european union But I found interesting in here justin that open markets matthew stohler told the verge If you're looking for a silver bullet probably the best thing to do would be to block google from being able to buy any companies going forward Suddenly you have to compete with google as a startup Not be nice to them hoping they'll buy you and in fact senator Amy klobuchar from minnesota has introduced a bill that would place an outright ban on acquisitions by any company with a market cap Higher than a hundred billion dollars So, uh real real quick I do want to touch on the the uber thing just very quickly and we can move on the the uber thing is fascinating in that What they want, uh, the the the the thing that they posit is that uber would have to become air b and b effectively for people that want to drive you around Where drivers would have to set their own pricing instead of uber setting it because that would be a price fixing thing Which I think is a fascinating kind of idea. I think it's unlikely. We move on uh the Uh the google thing. I actually think is kind of equally as unlikely although a fairly ingenious kind of solution uh the The roll-up A phenomenon of google is something that we had, you know from covering tech and uh understanding silicon valley There is not a pitch that happens in which the sentence or maybe google will buy you Uh, uh doesn't happen at at some point It is a part of this marketplace and specifically I would say a few years ago is probably when when the cotton was high Uh at its at its peak I don't know whether setting an arbitrary number of a hundred billion as gigantic as that might be would be something that politically Could get the traction that it needs to but it would certainly hamper google and you have to wonder if If if you know now government pressure comes down and and it is the choice Well, all right. You either never buy a company again or self break up or We will break you up into very different pieces What they would choose Like a one-in-one-out thing If you want to buy a new company you got to spin one out because it is a death sentence to a company to say you can no Longer acquire. Yeah, you acquire for many reasons you acquire because you want to acquire talent. You want to acquire patents You want to acquire technologies Or you just want to diversify one of the smartest things alphabet ever did was become alphabet and say We're gonna long term try to grow these other businesses To plan for that one day when google starts to flatten out which we're already seeing the early science of sure, uh You'd have to wonder though if you're google and now you can't buy that scrappy little startup Do you have any other option than to use every possible a manner to try and crush them? I mean, yeah, I you have to hire away people and then that becomes problematic all of a sudden you're encouraging poaching like I I don't think that this is something that It's it's interesting from people that for for us and everybody listening to because you know how pervasive it is in this startup culture But at the same time, I don't think it gets us closer to a better more level playing field Let's talk about amazon amazon Uh, it kind of skates by on antitrust stuff because the antitrust standard these days is consumer harm And amazon generally treats consumers. Well consumers get easy return policies. They get low prices Uh, so lawyers like lina con are arguing that amazon should be treated as a utility infrastructure company They're saying the platform of amazon should be separated from the retail manufacturing part of amazon amazon does Manufacture some of their own stuff or at least orders it to be manufactured. That's the amazon basics lines, right? By the way, lina con was hired by f tc commissioner rohe chopra in july so she is now part of The administration that enforces these rules stacey michael co-director at the institute for local self-reliance told the verge amazon needs to be broken up so that the platform is separated from its retail and manufacturing Operations and the platform needs to be treated like a common carrier So it's required to serve all comers equally which Almost is the way it happens right now, right? Anybody can open a shop on amazon, but it's definitely tilted in favor of amazon Yeah, sorry sarah. Were you gonna say some well? Yeah, I was going to say I I agree with stacey michael here My my gut instinct is there is something to be said about amazon being split up into two different companies There's the retail business But amazon obviously has so many more things that don't have a ton to do with the retail business And so it would be hard to categorize the entire company a certain way Not sure that in its current states. I agree that it should be treated as a utility infrastructure company But again, if it was a little bit more alphabet like I think that that would make more sense At least as far as this particular argument goes So the the argument here is that you have seen externally amazon being fairly ruthless when it comes to Outside competition. There's there's an example stated in the article about diapers dot com right that they Just went absolute cutthroat on matching literally every possible price and sale that they could Until diapers dot com had depreciated enough that amazon bought them that is as cold blooded as it gets Now the question is as it always is with these kinds of cases How much does the government want to weight in referees style into sharp elbowed business practices? When is somebody so big that them playing hardball with a mid-level competitor? Isn't just trying to be the best You know the best product that you can be but rather anti-competitive. Well, and I I mean how much bigger could amazon be As a brand that's sort of the biggest that you can get when you're when you're when you're describing that scenario I mean, don't don't say it out loud because they'll try like, you know, that Yeah, uh, this is a company that continues to expand. I will mention for the You know for full disclosure that my wife works for an amazon related company, but uh I think this is one of those you're you're probably going to see within the next five years some kind of Too many people buy things from amazon We need to look into where this fits legally amazon to me feels like on the retail side The most likely of these four to face A traditional style monopoly breaking Uh, kind of effort from thank goodness for walmart Well, imagine a world where amazon becomes a common carrier and walmart can use them Yes to deliver their retail. I mean, that's just that's a crazy mixed up upside down world Last one we should touch on before we finish this up is facebook Oh facebook It's privacy. It's social networking. It's election meddling. It's it's machine learning. It's fact checking It's a natural monopoly and there really isn't any competition for it out there No amount of portability requirements are ever going to produce a meaningful competitor to facebook So they are the most traditional monopoly in my opinion because there just isn't a direct natural competitor And this article compares them to at&t and says maybe you split facebook into baby bells Or there's talk about you just create a whole new law for facebook That restricts what they can do But even if you break them up into instagram and whatsapp you still have the problem of facebook I mean, that's the biggest issue here. You'd have to break facebook itself up And I don't know how you do that and and that's the problem is right now facebook dies if you separate any part of it facebook is an ad sales company the same way that google is an ad sales company They need as many platforms as possible so they can push their Add structure they're the ad sales into these different channels I don't think that facebook is going to face that kind of pressure even though it is very obviously among the most famous Uh to say all right. Well, you might have run afoul of how our culture works Simply because I think facebook is the most vulnerable of these companies It's a walled garden and if people stop scaling that wall Its power decreases exponentially in a way that amazon's doesn't google's doesn't and uber's doesn't And don't forget microsoft didn't get broken up and microsoft is still around It's having a resurgence, but it is not as dominant Or as relevant to this conversation as it was back when it was the one under the gun for for antitrust In the early or the late 90s early 2000s. So things change and also microsoft learned the lesson the hard way to have lobbyists in washington and maybe by the local newspaper Like amazon did Yeah Well, something that will never get broken up is our subreddit Tell you what submit stories and vote on them. See what I did there a daily tech news show at reddit.com Of course, we're also on facebook Until it gets broken. I'll just get facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show hang out with us Submit stories. We love you for it. Thanks in advance. The other thing. There's no monopoly on his email You can use any email provider you want to send us an email and sarah might pull it out of the mail bag That's correct. Just like this one from yaru in malaysia who wanted to clarify after yesterday's apple event something that I definitely did not realize at the time. So yaru. Thank you for keeping me honest He says tom mentioned that the iphone 10 is available at a lower price and sarah said Maybe she's interested in buying it. This is technically true in third party marketplaces but incorrect in the official lineup sense because The uh, the the new uh iphone 10 or sorry the old iphone 10 has been discontinued and the new 5.8 inch iphone 10 s is basically its replacement Yeah, so refurbished or used would be your only options there. Thank you yaru. Yes. Thank you very much that clarification And then uh, we got an email from dominique who said hi sarah Hi tom hi roger quick comment from a fellow tech reporter in brussels after listening to dts on my morning commute As I do every single day. Good morning Sausage making is a messy business and this is particularly a messy european legal sausage He's talking about of course the copyright directive. We mentioned yesterday However, I am reasonably confident say 85 confident that europe did not just approve upload filters in a link tax tom That's based on calling quite a lot of well-informed people who told me wildly differing versions of this and then trying to digest it all Here's the main point many people have been missing. This is not about the internet It's about google and to a lesser degree facebook article 11 is about making google pay a licensing fee to news publishers Article 13 is about making youtube pay more money to artists Why because google has a lot of money and you can argue they don't really pay their fair share So this is essentially a google tax camouflaged as copyright reform or at least that's what many of the authors of the original proposal Intended thank you for dts. It's a great way to start my day in my time zone And since sarah has joined and the old tnt team is almost back together. I try not to miss a single episode Thank you dominique. Uh, he writes for the day standard in brussels Uh, and we had a continuing conversation about this over email about this because I think he's exactly right The question is what does that final form take because remember there's one more vote And then each country implements it in a different way and I think a lot of the fears are about Okay, it may be aimed at google and everybody writing it may be say well, we just really mean companies like google But that doesn't guarantee it won't be applied in a way that has unintended consequences Look at youtube's own content id and I think that that's where the uncertainty comes in Well, thank you yaru and dominique and also thanks to jesson robert young for being with us this fine thursday Justin what is new? Well, tell you what uh, the free political newsletter. 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No, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be putting any more shoes on the floor at this point I don't know. I'm just used to life the way I lived it three weeks ago. I hear you Pardon me if I take off my jacket. It's warm. Yes. That's warm here, too. I'm so sorry It's okay. You're right. It's my fault, but I'm just like what is wrong with you dog Like I saw he came kind of popped his head in a couple times during the show everything's fine It's like what possessed you to do that. You know not to He's a dog. He's a dog But I but I need to reason with him No, you know that that's the one thing I try we try doing with our daughter Three not gonna work. You can't right. I know Well, I know I know But it's like I I hate That the fact is like I just have to be really mad And then that's the way that we communicate that that was you know, it's just bad mojo So now we we both have a bad afternoon type thing Yeah, w. scottis one wants you to get into chat roger Oh So he can give you the paste bin. Sorry w. scottis I Yeah, I've been For some reason when I see myself in discourse like oh, I'm logged in Not bad, not bad or there's other ways to get roger the paste bin. I suppose but you can just It's cool. It's cool. I should be in it. I should be it. I just Totally spaced on it spaced Space the final frontier These are the voyages of me packing my stuff into as little space as possible. So wait a minute. Hold on Uh, based on last week's email Is this The is this tie The the the pol right? Yeah, doesn't it Email I thought it had I thought it had already um Surpassed it or was that last week that it tied it went past it No, I think he was giving us heads up about this coming week, right? Oh, that makes sense or was it last week? Might have been last week. I don't know. I'm comes at me fast these days Well, and I was traveling so all of a sudden like last week just became a blur of You know outside of time um How about amazon prime for government regulation amazon primed for government regulation? That's pretty good Miracles are flawless home in the internet installations Uh See I don't hate amazon the common carrier. What do you think uh, jester? Oh I like You know, I mean, I think wait, we got no monopoly puns Do you have some Your monopoly ones, I mean like like like, you know, don't pass go or You know, right? I want to be the shoe The shoe in so mad at this dog Oh, I know that feeling Uh, I do I do like can you protect me now? Or amazon prime for government regulation that that one I think is and if we say primed I think that makes it perfect All right amazon primed for government intervention So On september 6th, which was last thursday We got an email from nth my actually nth mike said in slack That next thursday Uh Is when we tie that means that as of next friday's episode the dts era will be the longest of the three Eras of tom does tech news podcasting So we have reached the same number of dts episodes as there were number of buzz out loud episodes When I did my last buzz out loud Well, that's cause for celebration. Yeah Congratulations to all Congrats Best wishes And to 3 000 more Or And next year we'll be hitting five years and in like 17 days, it's gonna be a year of sarah lane on dt It's true. It's so many milestones. I was just thinking about that because I remember it was um Well, it was october 1st. Yeah So and that's the world around the corner weirdly That's crazy. I feel like you've been doing it for longer longer than that I I I mean maybe just because it just feels so natural. Yeah. Yeah feels nice. Yeah. Yeah, also You do a live daily show for yeah even even a couple months and you're like, what was life like before this? I don't know. I don't remember forever This is just what I've always done. Um, so yeah, I know it it's it's It's gone by quickly, but I'm like, what did I do? Before we did the show every day I know I know I was alive Remember what I was doing during lunch I suppose I ate lunch I probably yeah, maybe I Worked on things. I was still looking at tech meme. I mean that part doesn't change I was I was doing half the job without the second half of the Yeah, yeah Well, that's the sign you're in the right place and I'll say I will I I think the new place is going to look a little different on video It's going to should sound pretty much exactly the same as it does right now for audio, which is the main thing Uh, but I think it's going to work nice. Well, when you say look different on video You mean the it's just the shot. It's going to be a little different or lighting won't be the same Because it's got more natural light coming into that room and I don't want to put blackout curtains I want to take advantage of that. I may use different ways. I may even use a different camera Uh, I'll probably put these books behind me to start with just to ease the transition Uh, who knows maybe I'll trash that at some point too But it's going to be an audio studio with a camera in it Whereas this is both a video studio and an audio studio Uh, and and I like that because I don't come down here until it's time to do the show It's not very comfortable But I think the new studio is going to feel like Oh, this is just where I work and then when it's time to do the show I I do the show Yeah, I have the same problem Here in my studio even though it's I mean, it's perfectly comfortable. I have a whole couch and everything but it's Yeah, it's not real. I come in here to do this And then when we're all done, I sort of go back out into like my house And I keep trying to figure why is it that I don't hang out and hear more It's got it's nice You know air coming in the window like there's that that makes it different. I think Well, because I at least for me it's even when I've got my cables managed nicely It's still a lot of gear So you're kind of just sitting amongst lots of you know when I I have Focus rights that aren't plugged in, you know, just it's just it's gear Centric and so I often feel like it's it's sort of like a storage room Well, and this may this may change how I feel about it in even in the new setup, but There's something about oh, that's where the audience is right there, right? And when you're working, it's like, oh, I have to perform, right? Yeah, you go in there in a different room. It's like, oh, nobody can see me Well, yeah, I think there's something to do that. That's like a logical thing. I think Yeah, well, we'll see though But man, I've got faster internet At the new place. Oh, and you know, the me starting the show was we we we thought it was a good Opportunity for you to change up your shot in your studio, right? And that was just about a year ago. So it's It's a it's a it's a once annual spring cleaning of of studios Maybe I will change what's behind me then I think I'll still do the shelves, but maybe I'll put some more tech stuff back there Yeah, the shelves can can always have whatever you want in them. Yeah, they should always evolve anyway, right? Yeah They should evolve into vertical Blind I thought you're gonna say vertebrate vertebrates vertical blinds have Have never agreed with me really Well, because it's because when the windows open and my windows always are because I'm always warm They the flappy noise can't deal with it So I just can't every time I've ever had them over a sliding glass door or whatever in a house I just take them down and put up curtains Uh folks noisy it is it is that time of year death taxes and Rumors are that michael bloomberg is running for president Oh, it's autumn Uh, uh reporting Run in 20 Uh set to run in 2020 as a democrat Oh, he's a democrat now. Is he would be a democrat? Yes Hmm Does that mean three more years at three more weeks of summer? Uh, yeah, no that means it's groundhog day I think I always remember the thing I remember the most about michael bloomberg was that apparently in his waning days as as mayor He was one of the first people to do A fully renovated sprinter van as a mobile office Oh, yeah So he would he totally uh, uh renovated us one of those big old sprinter vans and made an office out of it So he could work while he was being transported from one part of the city to the other Wow, well, that's efficiency mr. bloomberg I'm surprised but yeah Nice to have a mobile rig mobile The president has been very active on twitter this well. We hear that I apologize Well, it's all right No, it was one of those news feed windows things that pop up Closed after the um the apple event. I had kept that whatever apples event URL just Open as a tab. Mm-hmm. And after we finished here. I was like Hmm. Yeah, I don't know my neighbors must have a their tv's on really loud or something No, and finally I was like, what is that? What's happening because it had no, it was just the whole thing restarted Oh, they just re re ran it, but they but they re ran it several hours later At least on my browser. I don't know. So yeah, I was like Where is that coming from? It's not my television Mystery solved Mystery I did not watch it a second time mystery solved gum shoes Speaking of shoes, I guess I just Well, where's you? Sorry to bring up shoes. That's okay. All right. That's what we have amazon for Oh You have to put the shoes in like a cage or something. Yeah, it's They could have just been in the closet. They were warm this morning. They were right by the door I don't know. I mean, they're not fancy shoes. So It's not the end of the world, but it's still not okay Uh, do you does he have a chew toy like one of those? He does but um It doesn't smell like your feet. So it's not attractive Yeah, maybe he needs another one We'll figure it out. We'll get through this together Sure will yeah Thanks guys um So i'm going to austin this weekend You are Oh, and you're coming but you'll be back monday Uh, I will do the show Monday whether or not I will be in I will likely be in austin, but I will still be doing the show. Okay Um, is austin, I mean we're Denver it's still probably pretty hot, right? Yeah. Yeah Pretty hot pretty hot Has it been kept weird? That's what I always want to know Like aren't there like a number of cities across the country that keep bortland weird keep austin words like keep it weird Well in austin or the two I know And I can't remember which one came first But one of them was imitating the other because they're portland and austin are always comparing themselves to each other feels Yeah, the place where people from san francisco move Well, seattle got saturated so and and apologies to all uh indigenous Austin folks It's just that you get a pretty funny joke though because it's totally yeah, it's not really a joke. I mean look there's three there are three uh, uh Rivulets of expats of the bay area and it's la portland Yeah, it's funny. I I know Well, I mean three of us here on the show right now are are From the bay area and we're lived in the bay area certainly and now live in la but you don't hear a lot of the reverse A lot of people live in la from the bay area, but I don't know anybody that I can think of that's gone back to sf I actually I I know I know a fair amount of people from la That are yeah, that's a little different. I guess Yeah, if you're doing it for the first time Yeah, yeah, but how many how many times do you do any like? trip back move out Move back kind of things if it's not for like college or something like that. Yeah, I guess that's true I guess that's true people generally go back to their hometown if they go back I suppose so that could Roger and zara could go back That would be not tom tom is not tom. You're not going back I lean came back to la she grew up true. Yeah born in la grew up in ontario california But then we we are living in a place that she didn't spend a lot of time in here So she feels like she's in a different place But she did grow up in the yeah, because if you're way on the east side of Oh, yeah, she wasn't greater la area is east side. She was out in the empire. So yeah, so you wouldn't it's not like you'd be Coming down to the marina all that often Yeah, should we uh say goodbye to our youtube? Ah, yes, thank you video folks for watching and Hope you have a lovely day. Uh, if you're listening to the audio from good day internet on patreon stick around There's more to come