 Hey everyone welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 15 of season 2 We have it kind of a an interesting panel tonight. We do not have mr. Andres restart tonight because he is at the Mario movie. He went to that tonight. I Went to it earlier today. I know Eric did I think Mike saw it last week Mike if he's awake I have no idea, but we'll get to him in a little bit First up, how's it going? I'm ten Robo Jets. I'm the host of Nintendo Prime Directly in the middle to my left. You guys is right is Eric Moore. How you doing bud? Good good He's trying to edit like an audio version of the podcast while we're doing this right next to him We have I don't know the one the only West Nemo. How you doing? What's going on fellas? How are we doing? What's up guys? Yeah now below West we have Original co-host of the Nintendo Prime broadcast Used to be my right-hand man back in Zelda informer. He is the OG of OG's Darren, how you doing bud? What's up everybody and good as always Nice next to him. We got not the now hooded Mike Odyssey I make it up ready Yeah, he's not feeling 100% right now, so don't be surprised if he doesn't talk too much Although I'm sure he'll have a few things to say during the Mario movie segment because yes folks We will be talking about the Mario movie today. It is launch day Yes for the Mario movie won't be doing any spoilers just some basic Discussion and impressions basic discussion and impressions. We're not gonna try really hard not to spoil anything It's kind of hard to talk about a movie without spoiling things But what we're going to attempt anyways see how that goes because obviously movies are like all stories. So anyways Wait, does Mario save the princess? No, actually I mean the flies over out there It's well known they're saving Luigi, but yeah, yeah And then we got Cat Berguson down there right below me. How's it going buddy? Oh Always good always happen to be here. I know you ready to talk some Zelda today, bud Always always ready to talk. That's a good answer Yeah, I mean I did I didn't see you over there on Andres channel the other day and I was like, oh man Look at these we got carried away ads going at it. We got carried away It was great. He kept having to get us back on track cuz he's like, oh, yeah We're gonna answer all these questions. We start answering one question and it would be to one tangent and then another time Yeah, he's like, okay, we gotta reel it back in you got two people who have to go in tangents And oh, yeah, two people there It was a great time. It was a great discussion Yeah, it's sorry. I listened for about an hour. I'm like, that's pretty good. All right So we're gonna start a podcast when we start every single show with what have we been playing lately and You know what? Let's kick it over to West Nemo. What have you been playing lately? Oh, I've been in the humming grind in homies. I finally beat Elden ring I am the Elden Lord finally got that knocked out, you know after many a controllers one at least You got it done. I just kind of I got to beat the millennia. I think your name is so Getting ready for Shadow of Erdshree There we go Nice man. Oh, yeah. I You're one step ahead of me. I haven't beat it yet. So yeah, so I'm not a I'm not a sold-worn guy But like this one it's like if the world wasn't beautiful. I probably wouldn't touch it But haven't beat it either, but I love it so much love it so much. I gotta go back and beat it Absolutely Speaking of that Darren, what have you been playing lately? I don't think what have you been playing last handful of years I don't even know Well, let's see. I've been playing a lot of modern warfare 2 I got the mastery grind on I've been racking up some ones on warzone 2 and As I do usually before a new Zelda game comes out I go and play a previous one. So I've been doing a hundred percent run of Majora's Mask I figure I created time the Majora's Mask now breath of the wilds that tears of the kingdom seems like Seems like the right thing to do So I'm not a hundred percent playthrough guy typically, but I figured I'd go for it this time So is it Majora's Mask is a game? I haven't played in a while. So it's nice to explore that one Oh, which version of Majora's Mask are you playing? The Nintendo Switch online We're not going with the 3DS version. No, they're gonna be wrong. It's a fine game and I Operation Moonfall to make that game happen. Oh, I They've ruined a huge like an important chunk of the game with some of the changes they made I you know, I play it and I loved it. I have them gold new Nintendo 3ds excel Majora's Mask Edition Love it, but you know the original Originals always have charm to them, you know, oh Yes, all right Let's Mike. Do you want to talk about what you've been playing this week or do you want to be skipped? Sure? So we I started a marathon Noticed I can't remember when I started Why you got sick days ago I skip today. Sorry guys and I have a lot of you on chat So what you doing streaming today? Of course, we have a podcast today. So but priorities. Yeah, so so We are doing a countdown 60 no 40 47 days now 47 days 37 days 37 days 37 days of tears of the kingdom So we're doing a live stream every single night until the game comes out playing breath of the wall and master mode from the beginning and Then hopefully once once we get to tears of the kingdom. I'm already Being the game by then. So that's what that's what's going on now Yeah, and besides, you know a little Mario here and then just to keep the spirit alive because it's my movie, you know, the sure Yeah, yeah, boss is very my favorite game of all time You can get back at that stream tomorrow Yeah Chief What are you playing lately bud? Oh, man, you know, I juggle games, but I actually just finished a another 100% run a breath of wild that I started a few months ago And I've been like on and off with because I was like I'm gonna do I go I wanted to give this game another honest go but between now and tears of the kingdom So I just wrapped that up last night It felt good, but it was kind of bittersweet if I'm being honest because it's like I'm a little sentimental about the game now, you know, because it feels like the end of an era And especially, you know, just when that game he was coming out like that was like a burgeoning time for me on the online space We'll say so it feels a little bittersweet. I've also been I've also been playing another noteworthy game called Cana Bridge of Spirits, which is a lovely lovely gorgeous gorgeous game But it kind of ties back because the the studio responsible for it. It's an impressive technical Piece and it's a debut indie title But their last project before that was a well-known Majora's Mask fan film so they went from making this Incredible fan film to making this incredible video game and it's like these guys just just they don't they don't lose Everything they touch is gold. What the hell? It's amazing. So I definitely recommend Cana It's a brilliant brilliant game really fun and it's beautiful. So there you go. I'm gonna stop talking now. I'm just hand it off Yeah, the game looks amazing. I haven't actually played it yet I honestly I just got caught up with YouTube and forgot I've stopped in on your a couple of your live streams cap and just kind of worked for a little bit and That's what he's the master lurker here, right? No, and that I agree that that game does look Incredible so the thing is to the I'm streaming the ps4 version and the ps5 version is even more gorgeous It's called bridge of spirits Ember lab is the studio And there's like a rumor that PlayStation was gonna acquire him, but I don't know if anything happened with that Oh, this looks nice. That's nice. Yeah, and it's a taker 610 wants to remind cat burger, so that he's his favorite YouTube channel Because it's solely on games that aren't And I'm his favorite Microsoft I don't know the last time I even made a mic I made a PlayStation video today I remember the last time I made a Microsoft video And as I remind people always in our live show, yeah any super chats get featured and that just happened to be the first one So, all right Eric what have you been playing lately? Everybody in the chat always reminds me I'm not a true gamer So are the comments sorry not chat chats always awesome Comments sections are always this guy's not a gamer, but does he ever play games? Well, you're right. I don't but I Do here and there he beat breath of the wild I did he beat Super Mario Odyssey I did he beat Mario plus rabbits both of them. Yeah, he's a gamer Collabonga collection No Games that tells me he's a gamer what else do I Like Every game he's beaten the last five years. Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so like the fake gamer is not real But they came or can't hurt you when you Like the next game is gonna be probably tears of the kingdom. I guess just Yeah, but I mean I dabbled a little bit with like tunic and stuff, but that wasn't this week I mean that was before and I Couldn't quite it wasn't I just couldn't quite figure out what to do because the Xbox version I don't know if it's not supposed to be in English or for what but it wasn't in English No, that's there is okay. I'm gonna show you something Popular Commenter not to calls my crazy person notebook the language in tunic It's a fake made-up language, and if you work hard enough you can translate this stuff It's so good. Yeah, that reminds me of old school games like I used to have notebooks and notebooks filled Oh, absolutely for sure we did But no, I mean it was it's see I could see the appeal to it. I just I Just couldn't I couldn't quite get fully into it But yeah, no, that's I mean apparently, you know, like I said, I'm not a true gamer and I didn't game this week, so I Know It's niche and it's hard so don't worry All right As for me while you guys know I streamed yesterday Breath of the wild master mode, I've never actually beaten the game a master mode So my goal is to beat it before master mode before tears of the kingdom comes out Unfortunately, some people know I don't plan to 100% it. I'm sorry Don't feel like doing 900 cork seeds again. It's just a thing. Maybe we'll do all the shrines But like look it's a golden poop and you're just collecting little turds the whole time Actually seeds Is easy to seeds is just so grindy But but I will say this if I if I beat all the shrines and the main story like before Tuesday comes out I'll just keep playing the game and if I happen to 100% it then cool, but that's not really You know, maybe we'll do at least do all the side quests or something I have no idea well We'll see how it goes because I basically every single night that I stream on Monday Tuesdays and Thursdays It's gonna be Breath of the Wild while also doing a Q&A and talking about things So it's gonna it's just adding a little spice to my my typical streams for now Because I'm dude. I'm pumped. I'm pumped man. Here's the kingdom. All right. Yeah, you got you watch my channel It's like the only thing I talk about now I've morphed into a Zelda YouTube who knew that would happen with us. Oh, it's die-hard Like who it's just I got there was some of the other day They're like dude. I love your videos How the hell are you coming up with like two or three Zelda topics today? I'm like, oh, you don't even know Yeah, you have no idea This is my this is my zone, baby, don't you worry about it I can come up with five videos a day if I want I just Before he was Nintendo Prime, he was the boss man Never forget So that's what I'm doing right now That's pretty much all I'm gonna be playing until tears the kingdom comes out because I I Want to have breath of the wild fully fresh when tears the kingdom comes out So I feel like that's the best way for me to determine how different it really is not by going off of oh old memories from years ago No, no, no, I want it fresh. I want the world fresh. I want everything fresh So then when I play it, I can be like, oh, this is really really different or oh, maybe it's not and that's the conversation So Yeah, that's one reason why I want to make sure that's super fresh in my mind That's all I'm playing from now until then and again You guys will see me playing it pretty much exclusively all my lives because I'm not gonna play in in between because I want to make sure you guys Get to enjoy me trying to beat it with you guys Yeah Our next segment here is where we just kind of get into some news topics that have happened over the last week or so Usually in particular with a Nintendo although we'll bring up one topic that wasn't First off the CEO and the president of creatures Incas step down So no, this is not necessarily mean there's major changes coming to Pokemon. They are obviously one of the companies involved The new CEO is Yuji Katano. I probably butchered the name, but that's who it is So Tomotaka Kamaru again, I know I'm butchering these Japanese names. Forgive me Will still serve as oh, I'm sorry will serve as the executive vice president of creatures Inc I've note the former CEO of creatures Inc. That's up down Which is Ishishara. He is still CEO of the Pokemon company that he hasn't removed himself from that role So he was actually serving CEO at both. He stepped down from one He's still running the Pokemon company and as far as we're aware that role isn't being impacted Whether or not he's considering also stepping down at the Pokemon company We have no idea because obviously we don't know why you stepped down in the first place because they haven't really released a public statement on it yet So I'm sure that's I'm sure that's to come at some point Within, you know, maybe at the next financial briefing or something Another story that popped up is, you know over the last week Nintendo of Europe changed our policies sort of stealthly behind the scenes like on their support page saying hey in these X countries Like the UK and Sweden, we're going to now repair joy cons for free You know the very thing that France has been doing this whole time the United States has been doing this whole time And basically it's sort of admitting that joy country is a problem without saying the word joy country So they'll fix all joy con problems. It doesn't matter what it is They don't target specifically drift, but that's why they've been doing these free repairs is because of it But of course it happens stealthly because as we found out the entire reason Nintendo of Europe changed our policy is because the European the European Commission Told them they had to or they were going to be fined a lot of money So that's what that would be explain why they never announced the change they just put it in the subtext on their support pages because The European Commission forced them to Nintendo of Europe was actually playing hardball and didn't want to make the change That's kind of sad to hear that especially when other avenues of Nintendo like Nintendo of France already made the change Proactively a long time ago. Obviously we know Nintendo of America made the change a long time ago Nintendo of Japan did it so why Nintendo of Europe was being a big stickler about it I don't know. Maybe they just don't have Maybe they were afraid that they don't have enough repair specialists to repair the number of joy cons that we sent in That has been an issue that's cropped up at least in America We like certain waves will just be a whole, you know, you'll send your joy cons in sometimes You don't get back for two months. Sometimes you send them in and get them back in three days Like it's kind of a random pick of the draw how busy they are so Maybe that has something to do with it But that's also trying to give Nintendo credit bottom line is they were forced to make this change Should have never have had to be forced Or they should just make controllers that don't break them. I mean that fixes all of this That's a bold bold topic right there because uh Yeah, my I just had I was lucky for a long time. I've had a launch switch since March 3rd on launch day and I still have the original joy cons and they just started to drift All of you got lucky. Yeah, I got lucky. You have very lucky So the fact that now finally Nintendo of Europe is offering that even though they were forced to which is shitty But they they are doing it now, which you know shout out to the boys in Europe. You can get your joy conflicts now Um, this is really something that should have been in place from the start I mean Nintendo is obviously known. This is a big issue Since the console launch, you know, not many people who have a switch have many complaints about it I know I don't but I think the number one is the controllers, you know you When when there's a glaring issue like that that they won't really address in certain areas of business You know, that's a problem and I'm glad that the european commission stepped in Yeah, yeah, I mean It sucks. Obviously in an ideal world. Nintendo would just admit there was a problem and switched out the joy cons by now I mean, there's already third-party replacements from guli kit You can buy of haul sensing ones that are way better and don't have drift problems. They could have just licensed those Yeah, it makes it more expensive. You're already charging 80 bucks for a pair of joy cons and the price hasn't really gone down so I don't see a reason they haven't improved them, but I presume it's just legal purposes They actually have a ton of pending lawsuits over it because Nintendo has been denied and I deny and deny That there's a problem that this isn't abnormal that this is what every controller does when it's very clearly significantly worse on switch and the other platforms Uh, but what are you going to do? um, nintendo can't admit fault or they lose a bunch of lawsuits, which nintendo could afford to eat the losses, but Whatever all we can really hope is that their next system. They actually fix the problem that isn't a problem All right, but who knows this is nintendo and as nintendo often reminds us here and then they are a corporation It wants to make money. So that's that's number one goal for them um next up Well before I get to this one because this kind of leads into our first topic The one story I forgot to add because it was sort of a new one that popped up today was that the Uh, playstations launching apparently a new handheld rumored new handheld coming out called well, it's codename Q light That's not going to be the name of it. Uh, but it is actually a streaming handheld. It is not a you know standalone system it does require the internet and it allows you to stream PlayStation 5 games to the handheld Reminds me pretty much of exactly what the Wii U game pad did Back in the day except the Wii U game pad also worked with your tv. So I could argue there was extra functionality You know, we also had a tv remote button for some reason because that's the thing they needed to add on Like hey, I I used it one time when I lost my remote. That was about it. Um So I don't know kind of a weird thing that they're doing. I don't really understand it But the the one unfortunate catch is you're gonna have to own a ps5 and it's basically just like a remote play device Yeah, like I don't know if it'll be able to stream like other games like on their cloud service Yeah, um, yeah, right now it's rumored to just be remote playing. It's like It's like what's this? What's the point on this console? No, you did this before you tried this with vita. I didn't really work and at least vita could play its own games Yeah I don't think they're trying to compete with like nintendo or anything like that I think they're just trying to like, you know, compete with or just have like an An offer that they can, you know Sell the people that want to use their ps5 like around their house or like even Yeah, go on the go or whatever. But yeah, I mean what I will say though is like, I don't know if he hasn't heard of chiaki It's like the remote play It's like the open source remote play that's like way better than ps remote play Yep, um, if it's not as good as that then like I don't see this device being even worth it I like that's the thing so far the experience of a playstation remote play haven't been that great The xbox remote play hasn't been that great either And if this doesn't offer a significant improvement, then I don't know why it exists like it And even then a lot of the reactions have been kind of like really So you're just offering a really expensive playstation 5 controller. Got it. Yeah, I had like other services like nvidia nvidia's yeah, yeah, if it enables that But I mean it's a playstation device But even then like, you know, it'd be a great machine for game pass like if xbox released a handheld that Was like a cloud streaming handheld and had game pass on and be perfect, you know Yeah Yeah, obviously get the way for the official stuff, but um Anyways, I don't know. It's just a story that's out there wanted to mention it It's not them directly trying to compete with nintendo But it is them trying to offer an in-home option Uh to play playstation 5 anywhere. Some people might love it. Some people might hate it It's probably in my opinion if I had to guess if this thing is exist and it's just remote play Look they reported the playstation vr2 sales weren't very good. I think the sales of this would be even worse But I don't know what they expect to sell the expectations could be different I use my steam deck for like For remote play anyway with chiaki and like around the house having my playstation 5 like in my bed Yeah without having to like move it. It's great. Like I love it So yeah a playstation can offer that experience just at the home and I think I could work, you know That's hope it's kind of like cloud gaming like there are certain cloud gaming things that just work and work really well Unfortunately, that's not true across the board. And so it's it's very frustrating Like people being all against cloud gaming. It's like look in certain situations. It's great It's just every service isn't the same And I don't know why yeah Yeah, like even like even like the g-force now stuff like why companies won't support it You still have to own the games. It makes no sense. I It's it's a really weird world. We're living in but uh You know, hopefully hopefully playstation at least if this device isn't going to be popular At least have it be where the people that do buy it get what they expect out of it And that is high quality, you know Remote play like being able to play the playstation 5 with minimal latency is very important on a home network So or stream the playstation plus subscription or yeah three games even that. Yeah. Yeah um So, uh, that's just sort of a bonus story I wanted to throw and they're not necessarily about nintendo But we're going to end with this story because it kind of leases our first topic And that is that the reviews are in for the mario movie, which by the way So those who don't know they're under rock Most of the world today the mario movie is available. Some of you guys have seen it Some of you guys have some of you guys are going tonight Maybe we have less people watching the show right now because people are going to the mario movie tonight It's kind of expected Uh, so maybe they'll catch the show after but reviews are in and while the critics Um, they don't like it critics are idiots pretty much at all Especially uh, last I checked it was like a 54 percent. I don't I don't know. It's it's not good tomatoes 54 The audience score I originally had 98 percent actually dropped to 96 percent But still like that's really really high for an audience score. So people going to the movie are loving it Uh, but the critics don't Talk about that in a moment, um So also, uh, one other thing to just to note and and this I understand being a little bit of a side about it Grant kerco came out and said that he's pretty upset that he didn't get any credits In the actual movie credits for the dk rap that does get played partially in there You know because he wrote the song he composed the song. It's literally his work Granted nintendo owns the rights to it so they can do what they want But it's one of those that hey, it would have been nice to get like a little A little credit in the movie credit for something that he created musically and Um, he didn't he didn't get any credit and he voices opinion is pretty upset about it fans have been pretty upset about it forum as well Because it makes sense. We're not talking about like Making sure that somebody who created the fire flower asset gets credit. We're talking about like actual art Um, in terms of like music There's not a ton of like like put it this way when you watch the credits of the movie All the other songs have credits of all the original creators of the music But not his and that that that I think that's why he's taken it pretty personal right now because Why is everyone else getting credit and I'm not it could have just been an oversight, of course but uh I don't know. It's pretty well known who who composed and wrote that song. Absolutely. I mean it massive respect to that guy I mean he's known in the gaming community Obviously for that song and the fact that he's not in the credits seems sort of like a snub to me Maybe it was an oversight, but I yeah, if it's an oversight, I think they're corrected in like the dvd release or something I don't see it being an oversight though. I mean I I I see it being an oversight because without giving away too much It's not a main song in the movie. It's just a little bit. It's just like like like a hit of of a scene That kind of motivates a crowd and that's particular theme If we were I would just say at this point we concede everyone it's it's literally in the commercials So I think Seth Rogen even like said in an interview that like it plays when he makes his entrance as as dk It's that scene guys when dk comes in comes in and uh the fight thing Yeah, I'll say hopefully if it is an oversight, they'll correct it and you know future releases That would be nice to see Grant is a legend. He deserves best like Yeah, it's not like the full song that plays but it's enough of it that they're doing it for reference sake that It's worth putting in the credits the song from Donkey Kong 64 If it's worth putting that in the credits the dk rap from Donkey Kong 64 is worth putting his name under it No, so you know and because it hit the song is in the credits. It's just that not yeah But but his name's not next to it when he's the one who wrote and come like it's hit his original work so it just I I I feel his pain and I get why he's a little angry because a lot of other composers got credit that didn't do anything for it But were the originals of the song and for some reason he didn't get credit um, I I understand I feel I feel for him and I said hopefully they rethink it for the the uh Movie release the dvd release and the streaming release or maybe they don't I have no idea because To be fair, he doesn't own any rights to it. So nintendo can kind of do whatever they want I mean, it's also not it's more like a moral thing and nowadays that Almost all movie theaters are now digital. It's very very easy to just make a fix Send out a new copy and go play this one They can easily do that too. It's it's really sure, but I doubt they'll do it It's not like it's film anymore where you have to literally splice it in and stuff like that It's it's easy enough to just go Here's the new copy play this one done. Yeah, I mean it's No, I mean all the theaters already have their I'm sure it'll be finished by streaming Oh, for sure We've actually seen this happen many many times over even the gaming industry as well Yeah, even gaming like there's so many times where like contractors work on a game and then they get fired because their contract is up Yeah, they're just not credited at all It's a game in history and movies and stuff dude We've seen that a lot like those characters and games that like play huge roles But because oh you weren't here all the way to the end of your contract ended Yeah, but I did everything for that character and they're in there for like three hours And I get no credit for that work like that's and and and for them They want the credit because it helps them get future jobs. It's not like Grant's complaining that he doesn't have work He's well respected. He's he gets tons of work. It's more of a he's not asking for royalties He's not asking for money. He's just like dude. That was my creation man At least shout me out. Just give me that shout out and I've talked to grant He's let us use music on our uh e3 show back in the day like he's super nice He doesn't care about music right crap. He just hey if I made something just you know, just let people know that that was me That's it. Yeah, so anyways But this does lead into the first topic and that is the mario movie which obviously came out I don't know how many of you guys saw it. I saw it today Uh, I don't eric saw it. Micah seen it. Has anyone else here seen it? I have not seen it yet I have my tickets booked for saturday though Friday All righty night. We got saturday. We got friday and we got west. That's going down and now i'm good No, no, not yet. Not yet. I'm i've been i've been going to sleep at 8 a.m. Thank you all the ring So Priorities Yeah, once it once it gets reset, you know, it's slowly getting there I'll I'll be I'll be going to the film on a side note How nice is it when you have all the lights off and you're like, oh, I'll go play elden ring and that giant white Bandai namco screen comes up and just blinds you like this It's always welcome. Yeah, let's leave the tv off for a moment and then turn it on Oh man, uh, so for those of us that that saw it, uh, obviously We're gonna be a little spoiler free talking about it So spoiler free and spoiler free as we can be as spoiler free as we can be It's really hard to be like obviously everything in the commercials is open game But you guys have already seen all that stuff Um, so we're gonna it's gonna be a pretty short topic But basically first off is it good or do we agree with the critics? Let's start this looks father Oh Oh god dammit, how could you do this? You rude it This movie to me is amazing To me as amazing. It's an incredible movie animated. I mean they they hit every mark all every no If you watch the movie, there will be a little bit for you whether wherever you entered into the mario series Whether you're an old school fan from the nes to the very last Mario Odyssey you'll hit you'll see something for you and you'll love it because they had they they literally put a little Everything within this movie. So I mean they did a fantastic job. They did a good job I'm glad to hear that because I obviously haven't seen yet seen it friday, but you know when they announced they were making a mario movie I was expecting that they would put You know a little bits and pieces here callbacks to different games old and new so i'm i'm happy to hear that That's a thing and the way they did it is is Man they did a fantastic job The way they did it just blends so so well together too Yeah, they played You know to anyone who's a fan of the games, which I assume most people watching my channel That's what you know mario from you know, if you're a kid, maybe you know from some other stuff, but I think they paid very good homage to um The the mario series and even nintendo in general If you're like an old school nintendo fans have been playing this whole time They're there are some things that happen in there that you're just going to jump out of your seat Uh because it's just like you can't believe that they reference this or they wouldn't hear And they paid really good respect to the ip despite the fact that oh, we're not saving ph for saving luigi It didn't really matter They did a really good job and it kind of made sense the way they treated luigi Yeah, uh with his actual character from the games. It really made a lot of sense. So I I do feel like They did a really really good job I understand the criticism of the story a little bit All I will say is if you've played mario games and your fans are mario games And you don't expect it to be a paper mario story, but you expect it just to be a mario story Then it's really good. Yeah, like I think I think some moviegoers that were criticizing it Are people that have never touched a mario game in their life and they just don't know I also think that they're adults and they're expecting an adult movie from a kid's movie Yeah, where kids I mean they can get into some depth, but I they only have the you know attention span and under kind uh Comprehension of here's here's what I've learned about critics with kids movies The movies that get rated really high by critics are the ones that have a message They have a message. It's a learning experience. So your children can learn something Even though most kids watching frozen moana and all the rest didn't learn anything other than to sing the songs That's really what they learned from what they learned the lyrics They learned the lyrics They learned that changing shape shifting school or that making for ice castles as well They didn't really learn a lesson, but the critics will be like but they could have learned a lesson Could have learned so this is a this is a 10 out of 10 And they're like I'll tell you there's not really a lesson to learn here. It's just I think there is I think there is it's hard. It's hard to talk about it because we can't But You'll you'll see there is there is all I say what I'm gonna say is It's very frozen esk the lesson. It's very frozen esk like frozen from disney very frozen esk I disagree but that's okay because I'm not I don't know the problem. You can't talk about it. So right Uh, it's a it just makes you all right. We're starting the spoiler cast now. No, we're not Day one No for sure for sure. Yeah, I think they hit nailed the music in this Oh, yeah Oh, the music was great great I need I need a soundtrack fast. I need to get that soundtrack and I hope they let us treat in the soundtrack too Yeah, that's the big thing. We probably won't because it's a movie Yeah, they won't Nintendo let the stream game music without movie stuff. So Um, it like it was really really good. Yeah, uh, I have no complaints really there I will say there is an ending credits thing To see that there's a role and there is an end role Yeah, stay for I was the only one in my theater that stayed through to the end because I knew it Yeah, so don't be those people that leave after the mid right So I can't wait to hold in my pee until Pulling a marble and setting up a new a new thing. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, right, right I mean, I Counterpoint something Eric said here is I'm not usually one to buy into the whole like well It's a kid's movie. So I can't be deep kind of narrative Because I think that there is always a little bit of room to have your cake and eat it too in that regard But at the same time like not every movie and I haven't seen it yet, of course As I mentioned, but I mean the thing that's a lot of these critics things that I'm seeing is that like I think they failed understanding some movies are going to be your Christopher Nolan movies that are going You're going to walk away through and it's going to be introspective and deep and some movies are going to be Kind of, you know, just fun rides to go through. No enjoyable experience And it's like oh, yeah I'm not saying that, you know, just because it's a kid's movie. You can't have story Um, it's I think just some critics go into it thinking it's going to be like the never-ending story Like this big in-depth adventure When it all it needs is to be a surface story. It doesn't have to be majorly in-depth And I think that that's kind of where I was going. So What it is, what it is, it's a light-hearted story. It's a light-hearted story And there's a light-hearted message in the two. So it's not it like a very deep You know Messages in there, but there's a light-hearted message in there too I'll say that you see that's like, you know, we all like ice cream, right? But imagine if like a critic who a food critic who's used to fine dining and goes to only five star restaurants And writes reviews of those five star restaurants with the really high-end food and then they went to review an ice cream parlor And it's like, well look We just want to enjoy our ice cream guys If you see the critic reviews are low, but the audience score is high then ignore the critic reviews Exactly I'm gonna be honest. I've never put much stock in critic reviews for movies. Anyway, some of my favorite movies of all time are literally Splats on to on like rotten tomatoes. Like who cares man, dude. Like like they told me, uh What is it that like uh, tell a day or not? Was it uh, tell day and nights or something? I can't remember some movie. I was really into some comedy. They're like that movie sucks It's like a 12 and the audience score is like a 95. It's like Yeah, Ricky Bobby. Like like they know like they know like like Hey, that's a 71 on yeah It went up. Okay. It wasn't on day one when we went to a day one. It wasn't it was a splat Yeah, I think there's just a clear disconnect between critics nowadays before like how they used to do things Um, I think it's a lot of it's driven from ratings But if you go to any youtuber who in my opinion have a lot more validity than a lot of the critics that are doing written reviews Most of the youtubers I've watched because I went through and I watched like Jeremy johns all the all the Typical guys and like everyone loved it. I don't know if it's a single person. They're like hated it So maybe it's a disconnect with them just not understanding the movie or like I don't know what it is, but yeah, yeah, you know Rob's middle sucks. Just don't don't read them I don't read right like like I I've checked every time I check Rob's tomato I'm just curious what they're saying now because it affects whether I'm watching a movie or not Exactly like the way that they read it ant-man like I saw I thought the film was great I thought the visually was stunning A quantum medium is rated lower than mario movie guys Exactly. It's like and I thought that film was great and like people like yeah, I like to do Yeah, I like to do like I think the in-credits scene on like just saying man alone like there's So big brain and I think what happens is like sometimes the critics think they mean more than they really do So you get a movie like that that that obviously did really well at the box office and people enjoy but they rated low But then you'll also get Movie like a John Wick Ford they rated really high in the audience goes really high We know good movies because the audience agree with us on this one. I'm like, yeah, but you're just ignoring like The plethora of times the audience did not agree with you. So What you two are guys? Yeah, it's it's a staunch difference Uh, so outside of the movie being good or bad Um, let's see here. Um, look at my notes Uh, do you have any predictions? I want to do at the box office because right now One billion I want to go for the for the billion. I'm going to go for the billion Yeah, Mike I have hope I'm going to get on saturday because I want to help it go to the billy It could happen. I mean in the theaters Quantamania did uh has done about two 25 million and you know, is it going to do more than than ant man? I can see it I can see it. Yeah, I think that as as it like the the movie stays in theaters for the summer months like kids are gonna You know, oh, yeah, we got a school and continue watching it and I can't go to the field trip next month at school to go to the movie. So there you go. I mean like How much of an icon mario is nowadays and like I feel like compared to ant man is almost it's almost unfair to ant man because Like marvel is huge marvel is huge But like it's this is now like ant man's third movie a lot of people are starting to feel superhero fatigue a little bit I'm not But a lot of people are And and also like a lot of people watch like oh the first anime movie comes out a new characters introduced But they might not watch the second or third one Um, just because of the sort of like newness hasn't really been doing well And I can tell you why because at the beginning they were mad at the c because they were too dark But and and uh marvel was light and and jokey But now they're saying that that marvel is way too many jokes way like like thorn loving Like a comedy I love thorn loving done Yeah, that's a complete out there that's a complete out there that that there It was more jokey than the other thorn movies I'll give them that but also there's a reason it's more jokey if you paid attention to the whole arc of thorn But I just loved all the guns that requires you have a deeper I'm sorry critics that requires you have a deeper understanding of the character I thought you guys paid attention That I enjoyed the movie and that's good enough Was my was my children's first ever marvel movie they watched and it's one of their favorite movies I'll play it on repeat like every week Hey, my kids Yeah, right that that was my point as mario has such brand Recognizability now if that's a word and it's uh like mario is almost as recognizable as as like mickey mouse Maybe maybe more More than mickey mouse. I'm happy to accept that. I'm happy to be wrong there Um, so there there is something to be said that like I I don't think I've talked to a single child That doesn't know who mario is I've I have a mario lanyard for my house keys I've been at my kid's school and some random kids walked up and seen my mario lanyard and been like that's mario You know, that's like that just it's just an ever-present Uh, well-known brand recognition. I I am willing to bet that they're like pretty much every kid out there It wants to see this movie and which means they're bringing and they're not it's not just like us as adult men Going to this movie. It's going to be that kid wants to that movie So he's taken his parents with him too, you know, or or they are so it's the the ticket sales are If anything going to be inflated because of that, um as well You got your fans your mario fans your gamers and you get kids bringing their whole families and everything. Yep It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good People going more than once like I am, you know so Yeah, I I think uh So if this is pretty pandemic, I would say it's a bill easy Um every illumination movie basically does that whether you guys like the minions or not doesn't matter They're they hit a billion every time. Um, so I would be like, oh, this would easy But nothing's really done super well since the pandemic and we're kind of waiting for that one big movie that Yeah, besides avatar, but like that's One-off situation like that was a 20 year in the making That was a little bit different But even spider-man did did not perform as well. That was that was even down. So Um everything's pretty much been down. We did numbers. Yeah maverick did but again What are we talking about sequels to really really old popular movies that were also Critic wise rated some of the best movies of our generation Uh, but that's the thing like they were living off of old movie hyping people waited forever and ever and ever for the next That doesn't really exist for like mcu. We get mcu movies all the time. We get mcu shows all the time We get uh, you know Kids part like a lot of kids shows on movies haven't been doing as well It's just it's just kind of a fact. There's like a couple exceptions But nothing's really like consistently been hitting over and over and you maybe maybe the quality of the movies isn't as good Maybe that's the blame but You know, I saw the movie. I saw the people in the theater's reaction the kids Talking about it asking mom and dad to come back yeah, um I think this might end up having that frozen effect that it's going to be in theaters like six months at some places And whatever streaming service it goes to just gonna keep going Yeah streaming service whatever streaming service gets it. I know, you know, there's what universal uses But Nintendo might not go that route because they'll ultimately get to say on which service Universal they've already said a blood a blood contract a blood contract with with uh, Comcast, which is universal Yeah Yeah, I'll get to you. I'll get to you any contracts because obviously they have they have a contract I'll give you any contract. Nintendo maintained all control. I say never give up control of their I say like that because of course Comcast is the one behind universal universal studios and now Elimination also, you know, you they own illumination Not so everything is all connected. You think they're Nintendo's not gonna Yeah Even if more than one streaming service gets it Peacock's to be first We'll see we'll see because the way I look at it as Nintendo likes having hyper control of their IP and this is mario any contract they sign They didn't give universal exclusive anything outside of we're gonna work with you as long as we want to work with you And that's the way that I guess no Nintendo They're not gonna give up rights to their own stuff that being said it doesn't mean it won't be a peacock by the way It could be a peacock and netflix or it could be peacock and wherever All right, so this is my prediction my prediction. You know how Netflix because there's a couple other My prediction, you know how how um You know, uh, you go to who has peacock here. Does anybody have peacock here? I do You know how I have it through him. You know how ww has their own section right ww has their own section going there And it's just like the ww network Yeah, yeah So I think that might be changing. Nintendo isn't gonna have their own right? What the heck? Yeah, that ufc deal. Yeah, that might be changing That's another thing that can be crazy. Um, but I think Nintendo's gonna have their own section too And I think that not only not only, uh, but not only the movies coming about tv shows and everything Probably shows yeah, yeah, yeah So according to polygon, they said that elimination parent company universal as a deal with netflix That sees their movies arrive on their streaming service after at least four months exclusive on peacock Yeah So after in canada, we don't have peacocks. So it all comes to that place Four months Yeah, then netflix most likely They have a deal with netflix. Yeah Yeah, so that that movie on netflix is huge like that's insane. Yeah, even if it here's the thing Here's what's gonna happen. It's gonna come to peacock while it's still in theaters And then when it faces out in theaters, it'll be four months and then they'll be like netflix I would buy it right now if it was 20 bucks on peacock I gotta tell you I gotta tell you something. I'm not no spoilers, but that movie has so many easter eggs That I can't wait to get one in particular. I want to talk about it. I can't I saw a particular one that will drive Nate crazy. I don't think he saw it because he's not going crazy yet, but You I mean, I mean, I can't talk about it I'm not game explain giving away 48 easter eggs on the day the movie comes out Let people see that for themselves, man. Come on Yeah Well, I put that in my watch later list for after I watched the movie just to see Yeah, andre's restart popped in the chat. He just got done with the movie and he's like critics are wrong My man Yeah, my man Yeah, so Uh, the last part I guess is just obviously without spoilers. What surprised us the most about the movie I got one thing for sure Uh, I mean about the mar movie. Yes I mean, I'll go because I got something. Yeah, go ahead again I was going to put it in here. So obviously I had an idea All of the voice acting was excellent And I never thought I would say that after some of the previews and the chris pratt stuff and all that like look one Um, I guess I could say because not in the movie the the the one line the line where chris pratt says says Mushroom kingdom here we come in the pre it's not in the movie. Um, and maybe it's not in the movie because of the backlash of that line I have no idea. They could have got cut out Linda Like because if we just focus on like chris pat, like he But by the time you're like 10 minutes into the movie you forget it's even chris pat He did a really damn good job And ultimately I think the casting they did ended up working out the only one that was a little bit Annoying just a smidge to me was a south rogan. I liked what he did with the character. They did the The laugh was a little too little too often The first couple times I'm like, okay. Yeah, that's cute like the fifth time. I'm like, okay, that's Seth, let's let's rain that in a little bit. But honestly the the the voice acting was excellent all throughout obviously jab bag was fantastic Anna joy taylor was great. Um, literally, I mean Keegan michael teal he did awesome every It was it was on point I don't even know who some of the voice actors were the other characters Because obviously they weren't the ones being going on the tour, but they did really great What they did with charles martin a was really just yeah, it was epic what they did with charles martin a was epic If you don't you know charles martin a you will recognize it Characters, you'll recognize it. Oh They they did such a good job So to me like it wasn't all the references. It wasn't the fun story It wasn't all the voice acting How much I ended up like going into it expecting garbage and coming out of it going, you know what? I actually think they got it right Yeah So that's the most surprising part to me. I agree at the end of the movie. I'm like damn I was totally wrong on this voice cast Yeah, and they did it with a list as well. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah hardly ever works out to me completely Yeah, like whenever I'm like I'm watching the trailers and stuff I'm like, I don't know of anybody else who I'd like pick to be bowser Like maybe mario just have like charles dude, but like Yeah, I don't know. Who else could do better like straight up and how was the personality they gave bowser in this one? Out of the park man, it was it was hilarious The song is also But anyway, anyway, um, I think I think my my surprise Was how they handled The chris proud voice like how they handled the the the difference between the exaggerated italic accent and the the the brook the brooklyn accent that get a bit into spoilers here, buddy No, I mean, I mean, it's not really It's this was not shown in it and any of the in any of the previews what you're talking about They handled it well Well, they did handle it. They did handle it well, but how do they know there was something to be handled? What Yeah, it was great That for for people out there you can read easily because they handled it well, you'll like the way that they did it That's that's that's how i'm saying. Yeah, I know what you guys are making me real excited to watch this friday You have artist restarted the chat who is critical of the cold chris pratt thing He's like dude, his voice is perfect. I that's what's crazy about it to me. That's what's so shocking. Yeah, this shouldn't work And it did I remember the controversy when that came out. It was going to be chris pratt. Everyone was like, oh my god, are you serious? But yeah, and I was like To me in the cinematic universe, that's the voice of mario. No offense charles mornay This is the voice. Let's let's get it going for another 10 movies Chris pratt got rains when we're saying Yeah, he does he does who knew chris pratt can can connect a little he's got range. He's funny He'd be serious Dude, I never died of the guy. I'm a very big fan of him. So I always liked him in his normal movies, but like it is not he just plays chris pratt I'm like, you're really good. You're like a good typecast role. I like it But it was different for him and i'm duty nail and did they all did it was just it was really really good Um, and I I kind of feel for keegan michael Howard his voice was like after some of those sessions Oh, man Yeah, that surprised me is that I and I haven't seen the movie but I've seen interviews where I thought they Like artificially modulated his voice to make it I see interviews where he just did the voice and i'm like, dude That's range. That's nuts. Yeah, dude He's done a lot of crazy voices over the years and like he that's talent He worked with like a boy a voice artist like six months to nail this voice down and he's like Yeah, it really does strain my voice, but it's the perfect voice. So I wasn't going to go away from it I'm like, that's it's shocking. It's shockingly good. That's great I can't wait to watch this movie, man Yeah, man. Yeah, it's great now. Maybe maybe there'll be a time guys Well, we'll go into a bit of a spoiler channel It will give the movie a month or two to salivate out there. We can kind of reminisce on Everything maybe maybe around the time that we're starting to get released on streaming services DVD Maybe that's the time to go into because by then Look if you're watching a show that says we're talking about the dog is a mario movie, right? And you don't expect spoilers months months later That's kind of on you at this point you've had a long time as a grand curco All right, now we get into our second and last topic of the show Uh, we don't really we have three topics later. We were just going with two because every time we get to zelda It's zelda, but I guess before we go that I take her 610 with another super chat pops And let's remind us for a couple bucks. So many people are saying bowser is a simp. Look. I can't tell you what happens I don't know what it means Yeah, let's get the urban dictionary of simp. Can we hear this? But do not read it out loud and do not say anything about it mike. You're good That's true I mean in the games he kind of is too, let's be honest in the most recent game he definitely is Bowser is one of the characters in the movie. One of the best you'll laugh a lot. That's that's what I was saying The whole plot of mario odyssey is that he wants to marry peach so bad that he will resort to all kinds of villainy So, I mean, that's this is not a surprise. This is this is on brand for bowser. Yeah, let's be honest with ourselves I'm gonna leave it in that Um You watch the cast play mario. I'm so happy that jeblinsky won that If you haven't watched that video, I'm like, yeah, it's of course. You're acting like he's gonna win that game Of course. He's probably the only one that actually plays it. Yeah I love you watch it. You like you could tell he do what he was doing the other one's like, oh, yeah We played before but it's been a long time now. He's like actively. I'm still playing this like don't worry about it Because I got my switch right here All right I would say this is the most we've talked about mario I think in podcast history because we haven't had a new Right, we haven't had a new mario game. But are you want to see too, please? Like 2017 hasn't existed in the history of the last two seasons of this podcast either So it's kind of like oh when it brings up, it's usually a sports game and we're like, yeah, that was disappointing moving on Oh mario strikers existed. Yeah We talked about the mario card adlc, but even that we don't really stick on that much But you look when they do when mario's great, we're gonna talk even if we can't really talk Exactly what we would like to talk about but you know what another time another time Zelda all right First off a couple of neat facts next week's episode is exactly one month from when the game comes out April we have an episode on april 12th. That is one month out. So we're we're a month in a week Oh Yeah, that reminds me. I'm pre-ordered. No, I did. I just gonna take the day off I gotta come over here. I gotta set up for a dual stream I I could do it. I could do two I can have two people play a game at the same time. Oh snap rare dual stream I can do it. It's a very I got the double. I got the I got the setup He can't stream I can't I can't Anyways, so that's just a fun little fact is that our podcast just happens to line up with the exact one month out So we're you know a little over a week from when they had the gameplay showcase last week tuesday and A lot's I guess maybe happened since then more so in terms of hey, we've watched it now like I don't know. I probably let me tell you I put more time into this than the mario movie Um, so I've watched this 10 minutes 11 minutes or so on repeat many many times pausing frame by frame Literally hitting the arrow keys. Just yeah cool. Oh see that that might be a video idea uh, so What are we thinking man like this? This is the next big zelda game haven't had one since 2017. It's real like what are we doing? We finally have gameplay now Are they doing enough? Low but after this 10 minutes my expectations are now high. I can't contain it anymore You know, I mean breath of the wild is one of my favorite games of all time And I've been excited for a sequel for a while But I've just been trying to You know keep my emotions level and we saw a couple trailers and you know, I got a little excited but After this little bit of gameplay we saw it just gave me a glimpse into okay Like there are going to be some major changes that I'm going to love And you know, it's going to be the game I'm playing for the next three years You know what I mean? I my hype levels just went through the roof And that's all they had to do we show that 10 minutes of gameplay because I was in the camp That was a little annoyed that we were so close to release day and they hadn't really showed much And that's all they had to do that's all they had to do we show that clip You know, they didn't show any of the story They didn't show any like major portions of the map outside of the new sky islands. They they didn't really show much They just showed some little details and some of the new mechanics. That's all I got to see. I'm locked in. I'm hyped This is going to be a great game No, I remember I started playing Breath of the Wild day one after that and I was just upset that I was holding a stick And I couldn't fuse it with anything I really do that's happening right now while I'm playing no my weapons about the brain. Let me fuse. Oh Wrong. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like man. I wish I could fuse this stick with a pork chop whenever Look at how fluid it's gonna feel when the game Come on. Yeah, the raw prime meat. Sorry other way. I don't know. I guess it can work either way depends on who you are Meet arrows, that's all I'm gonna say we want to know what we want to make and use meet arrows and Well, the one question I have That wasn't quite answered with the the trailers is they added that leaf to the to the arrow, right? And then they never fired that arrow and then they turned it into a I don't know if you ever got that leaf back No, I did Did it I didn't I didn't think it Yeah, but I only saw one still stay in there. I have no idea. I didn't pay close some attention to that But because that would suck if it didn't Have the clip on my yeah, I'm pretty sure Part of that presentation was when Ianuma was like, oh, yeah, we you know We don't have a lot of time today to show you a lot of things, but uh, anyway, let's shoot some more birds Oh But then he fires the second, the second shot at the bird He does get the leaf back I'm pretty sure we're doing rehearsal. He hit a lot of birds on his first shot He couldn't miss. Yeah So it was funny I was telling people like man, I suck at this game. I haven't played a long time Please forgive me for having a really crappy gameplay and all of a sudden I just have like five perfect headshot bows in a row and they're like, oh, yeah It looks like you really suck at this game. I look some things are like riding the bike. Okay. What are you? Sorry, I thought I was gonna be worse. I'm still pretty bad. Just wait. I'm about to fight thunderblight I'm gonna get my ass kicked. So don't worry about it. Um I'm about to be humbled in a hurry I still get my ass kicked on normal with that Yulia did be thunderbite though the second time on her own. So I'm GG she refused if she was like, I'm gonna Can you just help me beat him? I'm like, I guess and she goes no I must do it. You did it last night. I'm like, okay You're fighting him in master mode now. So That little health bar Look, I barely think yeah, so I I had an easier time with ganon than the thunderblight. I don't know why I just because ganon's easy that motherfucker The thunderblight's like like thunderblight And Harder than ganon That's whatever But yeah, look There's a lot of things about the gameplay. We're pretty exciting. Obviously we got to see four different abilities And also people kind of feel like two of the abilities are the same but technically they're different Ultra hand and fuse are two different abilities even though You could argue they have similar as one fuses weapons one fuses materials um What's interesting, of course, and this is something I haven't seen talked about a lot I might make a video on it when you see him go to fuse The pitchfork with the long stick it shows that you can also fuse the pitchfork with the shield Um, yes Which makes you feel like okay, then we could just use anything with either or like we saw him fuse the rock later With with with the shield So I'm sitting here like what the hell is the point of fusing random like well Is it just going to stick out from the shield and I can go shield bash with a pike? Go up and down and if there's no purpose except when I run and I hit a tree It knocks me over because I hit the hit the tree branch with it Everything will fuse With the shield. What's what are we doing? How oh what it this game just doesn't care Well, I think that's the point. That's the whole point You can do wheel pitchforks you got one in one hand and one on your shield That's how they add a dual wielding The shield with your clothes that way Attach a fan to the shield and I sat there and I'm like that sounds really cool While you're like on the glider and it gives you extra speed boost, but like do we know how fans work? I don't the attachment to the shield would actually make it not function Um, you can like push people away Push enemies back into the battery to it as well Yeah, I I know but like how wind is created. It's cut off through it. It's gotta go through It's so much technology I know i'm over thinking this but it is a physics engine. Yeah physics. Tell me that fan will not work Well as I can't No, no, it leaves it just a tiny gap just enough just enough to pull air through Oh, so it's like people. No, so what it is is so it's like a crappy pc case that has really bad air flow It doesn't really work that well So it'll just kind of splutter and Take this I can't wait to see all the the weird videos that come out on youtube and tiktok and Wherever of all the stupid things people fuse together and create with the physics engine and the new abilities I mean, it's gonna be so much great stupid content Just like the way in Breath of the Wild was it's gonna be even better with this game Imagine if there's a fuse plus and now you can fuse like six I mean Oh, that would be like I won't even do if I fuse that many to my shield. What do I do? Oh, dude, I want to be able to use a shield to a shield to a shield I want I want I want like the triple stack Three pitchforks together and then you can just Turn and this is one thing to show we've seen in a trailer that there is shield surfing right? He's grinding on the rails doing shield surfing Is this just not gonna work if we fuse like is he gonna wipe out? All right, give us more durability if we put a rock on it and then shield surf Maybe I don't know like a rock isn't that smooth. I kind of feel like surfing wise. You're just like Maybe we're smooth. It might depend on what you attach to the shield and what the Live bocoblin to the bottom of your shield People were also saying what if you could take like the goat butter and put it on the shield and go faster In breath the wild shield surfing that the smoothness or the type of shield you have already impacts how well Yes, it does. Yeah, like There there This is already something that they can that exists that they can just build upon basically like just some shields already Are better for that or better suited Yeah So I wouldn't be surprising that they went so far as to have like individual fuses can do different things Listen, the big question is can you fuse a horse with your trousers? What Mike's asking the real question No one else is brave enough The last person I'm in the trouser area Trousers that way because it's just where the trousers. He's immediately on the horse and then you just kind of you know That's not where my whatever you Trousers with horses. We have a totally different conversation. We bring up the old uh, nintendo prime, uh Uh Theme song. Oh the old theme the old intro theme song to all my live streams that I don't play anymore because I'm trying not to scare off my new audience Look There's just so much happening in in so They honestly if we think about it in the grants can be barely saw any gameplay. We we saw like Nothing Nothing. We just saw like early game Here's like four abilities that we did nothing fun with have a good day And all of us are just imagining the fun things we could do Not the fun things that he actually showed off. What would be cool if he would have showed awesome fun things But like there's so much in there like the one time he looks up at the distance and in one of the dragons is flying One the dragon looks really far away But also looks massive. It looks even bigger than the ones we had in Breath of the Wild Looks massive What is that? Why is there a dragon that large? I knew him a fashion. He he looks right at it And then it's just like moving on and just Massive dragon that's miles off but also takes up like a quarter of your view of the sky. Yeah, don't worry about it That's nothing This just exists. Don't worry about it. We can ride that thing. I have no idea um So like there's that uh Like there's a lot of unanswered questions too that they still could obviously answer here in the upcoming weeks again, they have I didn't figure we were going to get anything new this week because of the mario movie But next week that could start uh wrapping up some more new stuff new screenshots trailers Yeah, I would be surprised if we got like a drip feed of tweets Yeah, yeah, I feel like we're gonna get some drip feeds coming up I I know uh, mike are you still on that april 12th direct train or what's up with that? I'm still on it still on it until Hey, I'll tell you what if a direct happens on the 12th, that's really good for our podcast Ah yesterday It's a rumor that I want to believe it's not that I believe it a hundred percent It's a rumor that I want to believe Hope him. Yeah, I I personally don't think we're gonna get anything Zelda until like a launch trailer like the final launch trailer and that's just gd For sure. We'll get something because there'll be previews from the media Um, so like and they'll unveil stuff that nintendo didn't talk about because they'll they'll be interested in totally different things And whatever demo they get to play. Um, and then obviously their reviews Hopefully their reviews come out a few days before sometimes they come out the day before sometimes the day up No idea what nintendo is going to do with that um So we at least have some stuff coming up that way and who knows? Maybe we find out that hit may and ign has an ign first and then they got tears of the king No, no, no, no Here's the difference. So this is the game people want to play I don't think they could do anything to mess it up If I knew if I knew I can can give us 10 minutes like that. We're like, oh, this looks great I don't think ign can mess it up unless the game sucks Who's cutting their phone calls? I mean There you go This is the there's there's there's kind of a multifaceted thing first. Let's start with this. Will there be dungeons in this game? Yes, yes Yes, you're pretty definitive. Why are you? I'm the video out on this today Technically, we had dungeons in Breath of the Wild. They just weren't very good so There's that and also Nintendo and the Zelda team have been very open about How they work in fan feedback from previous zelt titles into The current game they're working on like this is something that's like well documented Uh skin like oh windbreakers 2 cartoony twilight princess. Oh scoured swords too linear breath of the wild um, the one one of the biggest things that Breath of the Wild's feedback was was people we want dungeons people want these dungeons. I should that was the biggest feedback I thought Durability was the biggest. Yeah, and we saw they changed that too But they changed it. They did not get rid of weapon durability though. It's still a thing. They didn't get rid of it But they improved it. They improved it. Yeah They could have just left it as is and the game would probably still be amazing, but they still talk the feedback It's a very nintendo thing to do is we're not going to take out weapon durability But we're going to change it to make it more interesting and very I agree. Yeah, they took that that that twig that was about to break if we used it with the rock, dude the rock The rock Johnson rock another piece um Well, Nate, you talked about it in a video today, but it depends on what we're allowed to talk about on this podcast We can talk a little bit about the art book. It's okay. Just don't go in. Okay. Well, there's things in there that it's not exactly confirmed But it pretty heavily implies to me Dungeons Oh, yeah That that like the rooms and some of the puzzle but also like we've seen some of that with shrines in the past So i'm not like I can't 100% say that like oh that is for sure a dungeon I was I think we're gonna get the best of both worlds. I think we're gonna have the I think for this game and I you guys can debate uh, you know We know your thoughts, but I think for the shrines in this game. They're just gonna be sky shrines So the the top of the world is primarily just gonna be skyline shrines And then everything down below is just dungeons and I think the same thing But with underwater exploration, it's not gonna be that much as well It's gonna be like a shrine that you have to go in there and this water water stuff But not like they were gonna spend so much time on the water On the contrary they might I can't see them implementing a mechanic as like Robust as like underwater swimming if they weren't going to put it to good use Basically like if if they were going to only use it for one thing like one shrine or something I don't think they would even bother putting it in Uh, but if it's something like something as like, okay now swimming underwater is this big thing That's takes a lot of technical programming and stuff and and sure they've done it in other games and they could probably just You know rework it into this But if they weren't going to use it like their design philosophy for breathwater enters the game seems to be Everything that we're going to put in this game has vast utility As has use across everywhere you go. So if swimming is in it, it's not going to be just for one thing It's going to be Exploration it would be They would have to tie it into the zores, right? You would have to have some sort of zores Zora tunic Yeah, yeah Yeah, but actually west he brings up the ascendability they built in so on this they build in a mechanic A whole mechanic that revolves around ceilings needing to be a thing in a huge open world game If if you have a central mechanic that requires a ceiling it means you need areas with ceilings like dungeons Ceilings there, right? I will say this like one thing about the ascendability and I didn't bring this up into my video Kind of an oversight was you know the entire ability like when he's going through the thicker portion It's a swimming animation. Yeah, it's what it is Like it's straight up a swimming animation which makes me feel like Maybe the place we use to send the most is actually underwater And we just don't know because on trace restart Made a video about swimming. Uh, so shout out to him. So I'm just going to rip him off here in this so far But Yeah, he won't he won't I shout out him my credit to him credit to andres, but the uh In the gameplay when you dive where when i'm doing my dives off the skyland or gets knocked off and then goes into skydive he lands in the water The when he's like falling the ascendability that the hud element for it is grayed out like you can't use it When he hits the water and goes into the water It pops up again saying that he can use it As soon as he hits the surface of the water and he's just floating It grays out again that you can't use it which means you have to be able to use it under the water You have to be able to ascend to the surface of the water My it's definitely got some underwater use my question there is why do you just continue to go down like sink down and then shallow And the river he's a troll. Maybe That's it No The river is too shallow. This is like this is the guy doing this dick gameplay demo that picked up an item called zonai charge Knowing what it would do to the zelda theorist community and he just and he literally said moving on and When he goes underwater, you gotta remember we're early game There's probably something we need to go underwater ascend plus Um, like we need iron rear notes There's something we need to go underwater that he doesn't have yet No, yeah, that's kind of that's kind of the one that i hear I feel like this ascendability is going to be like hitting walls and dark souls just looking for a fake wall Everyone's just going to be trying to ascend through every ceiling to find some sort of secret item chest hidden room Every ceiling for years. Yeah It's going to be like zelda one again on the nes bombing every wall and burning every bush In hopes to find a secret and i'm here for it. I'm so here for you Tager 610 wants to remind us the fan plus horse equals horsepower. I'm just yes Hey now that he could be out of something I'm gonna make a flying horse. I'm making my own my own pegasus Okay, so maybe there'll be some sort of dungeons. We'll see We we don't underwater dungeon as well. No for sure. I mean probably Like the one place that looks like it's obvious Death mountain, right? There's all this crazy malice stuff happening. Oh, we probably got to go there and do a dungeon to get rid of the malice, right? That's that's what it's that's what you think in old zelda games um Well, this also brings up this notion because there's been a few people I guess they've sort of talked about this a bit over the years since breath of the wild but Um, seriously the kingdom has sort of brought this back full circle after the gameplay came out Is there's a lot of um, when I say a lot guys, it's still a minority But it's enough that you have probably heard it somewhere at some point Some people feel like breath of the wild here's the kind of sort of killed what traditional zelda is Now I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that we just haven't had a brand new zelda game Is so long Like we had had a brand new top-down zelda game between then and then and now people might not say this because It probably would have been more traditional Uh, but Obviously breath of the wild marked a massive departure from the way zelda has been since a link to the past Like a link to the past set a formula and that's the way zelda literally was all the way through skyward sword There were some differences here some new features But the basic formula of how a zelda game works was set up with a link to the past And then breath of the wild came out and said, you know what what formula Let's throw it all out and do our own thing. Um dungeons. Oh, that was the central yet. No I mean, we got shrine sure that's cool We're not we're not going like nine different dungeons and making it just a dungeon to dungeon to dungeon to take several hours to get through Stuff no no no no no you spend a few minutes and shrine you spend maybe an hour tops inside of divine beasts All the big bosses, they're all basically going to look the same We don't have aesthetic differences, but we're going to give you exploration We're going to give you openness. We're going to give you a story through Memories we're going to do this and that and exploration like so it was very very different And obviously tears of the kingdom is following in the footsteps of breath of the wild Which isn't a surprise it is a direct sequel and obviously breath of the wild sold 30 million copies. They're they're they're not just going to ignore It's sold a lot Um, and I and I do think in some regards like a link to the past back in the day This might have set the new Standard for what zelda is going to be for a while because Nintendo likes money They're not just going to abandon stuff that makes them my say in the next game is going to be like a third game You know like a like a trilogy could be but whatever it is It's probably still going to be open world. Probably still going to be non-linear Etc etc like they're they're going to follow some of the footsteps set up here um So what do you guys feel about that sentiment that? These games kind of kill traditional zelda and there's like a segment all the fans that are just kind of upset that they're I have a hard time believing that nintendo at some point In the near future isn't going to return to a somewhat traditional zelda. Even if it is uh, sort of like a handheld style Like uh, link's awakening remake style Uh, but an original game like um a link between worlds. I think we're due for one of those I think nintendo knows that You know, I think it's going to happen. I think the focus right now obviously is on tears of the kingdom As to where they go for a third game I really have a hard time believing that they're going to create another game That's as open as breath of the wild in tears of the kingdom. They could But I feel like that they're going to try and do some sort of weird hybrid style Between the two where it's not as open, but it's not super linear I feel like they're going to try again and reinvent the wheel And keep the innovation going. I could be wrong They didn't reinvent the wheel from a link to the past until breath of the wild that was a long Right, right, but I just I don't I think there's enough of a vocal Movement from zelda fans that feel like they're being left out I would say being left out as like traditional zelda fans of the the link to the past style games. I think You know, there's enough people that enjoy those styles of games me included as someone who enjoys both That you know, they're gonna have to put something out to satiate the desires of those fans eventually Even if it's, you know, what I mean, obviously we have the switch now So it's not going to really be a handheld zelda game But you know what I mean something in that style of like like a spirit tracks or links awakening or something I think rezzal is working on one I'm I think so too already confident that we're going to get one But the main zelda team might just be working on these style of games for a while We could be right I think that what we're seeing with tears of the kingdom is a more You know true like return to form for the legend of zelda series um The first one was a lot of like letting the world building do the talking this one Is gonna, you know be the more traditional zelda story Obviously it's tears of the kingdom. So it's gonna have something to do with like the kingdom of hyrule Um, whereas like hyrule and breath of the wild was more of like this is the open world This is the world we have Explore it have fun do whatever you want to do this one's gonna be like Hey, here's all this new content in the form of traditional dungeons, but also You know, you're you're still gonna have the ability to do whatever you want to do Explore Yeah, I think I think I agree with that. I think we're seeing a sort of marriage of ideas Where they're they're gonna hybridize these elements, which is why I'm so on this dungeon train um, I mean obviously I Good point. What happens if they don't then I'll eat my words and that's fine I've been wrong about things. I'm I'm willing to be wrong about things, but I'm wrong every day. So yeah, it's like when a link between worlds came out The things people praised about it was like the basically what worked in breath of the wild Uh, and and people nobody's saying it's not a traditional zelda game, right? Like it basically it is, right? I think I think there is I think that was in in some ways a test run to see how Those could work and still be so distinctly zelda So I have no doubt that they're gonna just be They've laid the groundwork with breath of the wild. They have the foundation now They can now bring back these elements that are so beloved and and work them in and I think it's gonna be I think as the breath of the wild immediately became one of my favorite games ever when I when when it came out Despite being a lifelong zelda fan And I think that this is just gonna blow all of that out of the water and set a new standard basically so Even though people are saying right now, it's like incremental I think I think they're underestimating just what's in store for us. So six years. What have they been doing for six years? Come on now Exactly they haven't been doing nothing for six years and people have said People have said like oh, well, you do really think they started development as soon as breath of the wild released I'm like, what do you think they took three years of vacation time? It's their job their game developers Yes, of course they started developing fuse took three years, but we heard in the past. It said we're always working on what sex I'm like, yeah, because oh Nintendo doesn't do I think this is me what confuses people is a lot of companies will do temporary contract employees Rather stuff. That's not what Nintendo of japan does. They're full timers Like yeah, they're just okay. We're done with this. What are we doing tomorrow? The next thing like that's they don't really ever stop because I'm not saying that they don't ever feel overworked. I have no idea the work culture in japan Also is vastly different. There's a high respect for your job and working So like when we hear things about oh sacrifice putting in all this time probably everybody is because that's just the culture in japan Um, yeah, so around here, we'd be like, oh, they're being worked the slaves. They're like, no, this is just the expectation there um Even even if you look at like the physics engine that they built with breath of the wild like The amount of ideas that I personally had whenever that happened and you could see it in the player base as well Like the amount of crazy flying machines that people made. Yeah, they took those possibilities and they're just like, okay Let's turn up on its head. Let's bring things back to normal. You know a little bit with the traditional dungeons and then Let's go buck wild. Let's go crazy and that's that's what they did. You know what? Yeah, I think uh, and this is coming from uh Let's say let I'm still calling myself a newcomer one of you right a newcomer a newer zelda fan a breath of the wild made I did I did be zelda one. I did be licks awakening, you know, um, I Half of a great, uh, we know time. Yeah great time And then uh, I started playing um, look at that spoiled before you start. Yeah, I stopped playing But um, I I feel like nintendo Like like nade said money, you know, they they they they earned my my my purchase with breath of the wild You know, and I think because zelda is the most I mean breath of the wild The best like zelda game right now They're not gonna they're I feel like in tears of the kingdom Yes, I know that a lot of people want dungeons. I know a lot of people want this is that but I don't think that We should set our expectations that we're gonna get Dungeons in a very traditional way. They might compromise and give us dungeons, but in a different way You know, it's a dungeon. It's looks like a dungeon forms like a dungeon, but it's not The traditional one, you know what I mean So, yes, no, I agree. I agree. I made a whole video on basically that subject and I absolutely agree. I think that there's Dungeons may not be immediately recognizable. They're still gonna be fun to explore and they're still gonna be these contained areas Um, sorry As long as we get our epic and unique boss fights. I'm good. Oh for sure I mean like the amount of like, I mean we were training to be a champion in breath of the wild and now that we're You know, we're already there. So now it's time to like take on the actual threat and and go to more lower appropriate, you know Dungeons and different, you know levels Totally. Yeah Yeah Um, if j2 blue says here remember, what's the most important question? We'll be able to pet the dog. Someone's gonna mod it. It'll happen if they don't do it It's gonna be modded. Yeah. I hope so. I walked up to I walked up to a dog on pre-mistered. I was like, why can't I pet you? Hey, we said earlier that They listen to fan feedback. So, uh, you know, they better take that seriously because that was a big complaint for breath of the wild So I hope they even acknowledged that too. I think I think uh One of the higher ups said an interview that are like, we didn't know what people wanted. How could you not know? Do you know how many hours I wasted in red dead too? Just petting the dogs Before come on and toilet printers were carrying cats. You gotta let us pet the dog. All right. Come on. We pet the dog I will fuse it with the horse Live things together say If they don't let me fuse a cuckoo to my shield, I'm gonna have a problem Right. Oh my god. I'm actually genius. That's lethal weapon right there I will be so one perfect carry in that Oh, yeah I didn't know you would kill a horse for a little while. I didn't know you'd kill a horse. I actually didn't kill mine You know, I I dropped it down a cliff and he died And then and then when I met this fairy guy that just came out of nowhere ugly fairy Oh, you kill the horse. That was fun. They're like I've someone I love this game I have so many questions Example, I know yulia wants to know what the hell she asked me the other day like what happens to the yiga clan in the next game on my phone I don't know They gotta return truly If they return their leader better better actually be able to fight I don't I don't get it The most annoying thing that I found in breath of the wild was that there's this this person getting getting attacked by macabres, right? You rescue them and then they turn into a yiga clan person They're fighting you. Yeah I saved you. Oh, you're the link. I know I kill you. What? It makes me not want to help random citizens anymore for a loafer brand to give me Yeah Literally it's like, oh, thank you for saving my life. Here's the mushroom Now die All right Yeah, I can tell you if the yiga clan's done in here, they all win bananas. Oh Loves to see happen is if ganondorf's returning right? We can pretty much agree on on that And so they're all the yiga, you know, they they love their ganon So they're gonna try and be like, oh, okay. Hey man, we're gonna work for you now And then he just kills them I know They turn their sheikah symbol upside down and they you know, they join the Oh I kind of looks a little bit like Some people like the sheikah and zonai are the same thing and well, there's a whole lot of the same It is all connected. Hey, but you know I also has a tear what if those are the tears of the kingdom? Oh, yeah, the tear almost like it's part of him is um Yeah, look I'm not hyping responsibly for this game at all, which is a dangerous place to be You're a bit I've been hyping responsibly for my almost we are irresponsible I even hyped responsibly for breath of the wild until I played it myself at e3 and then I was like, oh I remember that But you think I haven't played this and I'm already like, oh Mm-hmm. Yes I love this. So I'm a little Yeah, yeah Sorry, yes Yes My first time playing the game like, hey, we record this for you. They're holding my camera. They're recording And like they're trying to explain things to me and I'm like, hey, I'm a Zelda guy. I'll figure this out I started walking over toward the storm houses. I was not knowing it because it's pretty easy in that e3 demo to get there You just walk to the left. Yeah, that's it It's like right to the left of the starting area one of the demos So I'm like, I'm walking like, oh, don't go over there. You're not supposed to go over there. You're gonna die and I was like Well, then I'm going over there All the more I'm either about to kick me off this demo or I'm about to find out what the hell is supposed to kill me over here I go over there. I killed the thing She sets my camera down in the middle of the fight getting all angry about it And I'm like, okay And like the other other person standing next to the next there's like, what are you upset about? Like I told him not to go over there. I'm like, he can do what they want. That's the whole point of the demo That's the point of the game It's like and like when we came around again and then I finally got the recording of it And that's the one that went viral on on youtube you guys ever look up like uh stone talus I believe it is what we call step. I can't remember which house first. It was step. Yeah with step. They changed the name Yeah, so if you look up the step talus like world first take that I I actually got it down right before the tree house did Alive on their stream. Uh, so I had a video that went viral for that was actually the second time I took it down The first time should have went up the day before but didn't because of that they didn't record So they were talking to the person who's recording it. He's just like What do you mean? They put the camera down and got mad at you. I'm like, yeah, I have a press badge and He's like, yeah, you're from zelda informer. Obviously you're going to go for the harder challenges Like we tell you something's hard to you. You're going to be like that's what we got to do All right. Yeah, it makes sense to me. I don't know took it out Well, by the way the second time I took it out was obviously a lot more impressive than the first time Let's figure out the mechanics the first time when you're fighting this all new thing then zelda's never worked this way Yeah, the first time you face it. It's like, okay. I can see why you think it's hard But mostly I'm just not used to fighting something like this in a zelda game I need to like get my bearings and so I ended up taking it out and then I was like, okay Now I understand how it works the next time will be easier and obviously at this point You know, you're working with very minimal gear and everything you final later that obviously hammer It's harder and I like didn't know that at the time So, you know, I'm using a lot of bombs and and a lot of stuff whatever but I took it out um And like I was sold basically from that moment onwards like just that entire demo I let my hype go and it scares me a bit that I'm doing that for tears of the kingdom already Like I know I have the rest of the wild background with it that gives me the confidence but also Igeanoma said something During the gameplay session about the game world because a lot of people are critical that this is in the same high rule He never actually said it was the same high rule Those words have never left his lips What he said is I can remember the exact quote because uh player essence brought it up on a video two days ago He actually brought up the exact words. He said it's something it's something about a new unexplored high rule and it's like Okay, I know obviously it's the same high rule Yeah, it's like if we know obviously the base the start was the same we know that But at this point of the game coming out Apparently, it's so different that we just don't even know and they're not showing us So for sure Yeah, so I kind of feel here's one of those like we just maybe I just have too much faith In really stupid words because they're not showing a lot of the game And maybe we'll see a lot more of the game by lunch. I have no idea but um I am I honestly think that I'm gonna put over a thousand hours again in this game in my first playthrough Which scares me because that means I won't Beat it in the 10 days that I said I wanted to be I'll be streaming it every day for a month or so guys. Sorry I'm sorry I came over a month for my job. Oh man. I'll add to my World's worst That's the worst We were talking about the uh No, mainly just for mainly just for the I want to see the uh the one run through a demo of how many ways can we kill like? Yeah Yeah, okay. That was one of our demo runs was okay. That wasn't that wasn't the goal I don't I originally was trying to beat all four shrines within like the 15 minute demo And then I went to the wrong hill in the I went to the the because you know, uh, the snow area of the tutorial area There is the peak hill and then the the other one the shrines on Yeah, I went to the wrong one which of course I didn't have it memorized at that point I had already done all four shrines individually, but I never actually did it one run So all right, let's do is I went to the snow one first because I wasn't like the longest one to get to So if I can get to that one I can zip over to these other ones pretty quick Well, I went to the wrong peak and then I realized I'm not gonna have enough time So what am I gonna do with the rest of this run because we're recording the whole thing So I said, all right We're gonna make this how many different ways can I kill link? Yep And I proceeded to die like 70 times. It was great. Oh, no I remember around that time that of the demo that was uh, I remember that fondly because uh, we were both a zeldin former at the time and you usually headed up the e3 coverage But you had went to e3 and left me with the reins and that was very daunting because guess what? It was the big breath of the wild blowout and demo footage trailer tree house The interviews nonstop crazy crazy stuff, dude. I took time off I was glued to my computer. I mean after day three I just had to go out and take a drive because I was so overwhelmed I was like, I got to get out of this room right now We're saving up my computer. Like how does they do this all the shit? Oh my god Yeah, I got like no sleep that trip at all. I was so busy recording content asking questions getting better You're on the shitty hotel Wi-Fi like trying to offload stuff Yeah, that Wi-Fi wasn't nearly as good as the following hotel we had the next time we went but 43 rip Yeah, probably rip forever We got some low-fi animal crossing going on I mean, look the podcast usually goes another hour, but we don't have to go another hour Well, I'm saying there's anything else you want to bring up because I just kind of wrote down things that I was I've just been kind of Spinning in my head a bit Do you think that nintendo is going to allow link to just plow rate straight in the ground coming from the sky? Yes, I think you can You can break your legs We have the glider we follow We have the glider we can pop right before we hit the ground like usual. It's gotta be graphic, but you know, yeah What we say that we say that his body just disintegrates to the joint blood spot Oh, well that probably wouldn't be about what would happen Conker's bed for a day is it? So my question for you guys is The stamina wheel from the gameplay presentation Obviously, we climbed up that entire mountain with the original game if you only had that one the stamina wheel That's not enough to climb up all the way on top of that Where the where the rock is are we gonna start with the full stamina from the last game or Are we starting with just like the very start? I think we're starting to weigh in probably just yeah, we're gonna start with like That's just the base single wheel three hearts. Yeah The climbing speed there was like a cut as well. So there was a cut there Yeah, there's a cut might have like stopped to refill or like stopped or maybe he jumped off It's nothing and flew over to part of the And there are also two I think they can reset it a little bit too because of the uh, the ascend Ability if you get the ascendability right away Well, yeah, but you have to ceiling you have to I know but that does take away a lot of a lot of Probably climb. Oh, I'll say this also. They did a cut which meant they could have just did some dev trickery That's what that's true Dev menu add stamina move on I'm just looking at the footage and it doesn't the like piece that he climbs up to at the beginning It doesn't fall at the top of the mountain. It lands like at a ledge that's pretty low down. So he doesn't Yeah, yeah I know that that cut is hiding something That it is yeah Hey, you know that rock the the there's something they showed inside the stable. They didn't want to see What do you call that? What do you call that the recall recall, right? You notice that recall has a stamina wheel too And then yeah, it's just like stasis stamina wheel only goes up so high and there's more Heals up, you know, so maybe maybe the maybe you're not maybe stamina plus weekend or the Recall plus we're able to go even higher possibly higher And the cool thing is you could pause that as well. So like Yeah, I'll hit L the stop or whatever. Yep. What objects are we gonna do that with or we're gonna need like recall plus to do it with enemies like Yeah If I can recall plus the enemies that would be hilarious It'd be great for those enemies when you kill them and then they like fall off a cliff and you're like, no, I want the loot Get over here recall I do have a one question that I just thought of Much like breath of the wild is it gonna rain every time I need to climb? That was a big thing Listen, it rained every seven minutes in the stream like like streaming it Every seven minutes like just rain rain rain none stop rains Crazy Yeah, but I feel like an all abilities like recall or like designed to like get around that Or yeah, possibly. Yeah. Yeah There's also like the revolution gale from the first game more than the champion abilities that we haven't even seen yet So I'm guessing what we saw was their first runic abilities I guess quote unquote runic but now we have to find like What's gonna allow us to traverse even more? Yeah, there could be even like in some of the more rain heavy areas like say it's a heavy forest area So it's gonna be more rain. They could have more caves and we're gonna use a send to get up And the thing is like you think about it. We had what uh, technically eight core abilities in breath of the wild Counting the champion abilities. I mean if you think they're gonna follow that script That means there's four abilities. We don't even know about yet. Exactly. I think there could even be more I could be even more like here Well, one thing people don't think think about much I brought it up in a video today was that breath of the wild was originally made to fit on eight gigabyte disc on we you In this game this game is Or 18 So more more than double the size of the original breath of the wild I know with the dlc it ended up being you know like 14 gigs, but Just it's double the size of the og release Like there's so much happening like we can have we can have 12 abilities for all we know There's so much something like maybe we are dungeons, but instead of the dungeons being like a new dungeon item It's a new core ability and we use that and now we can use that the rest of the game The part I'm excited about is like the the higher file size means more potential cutscenes Like I I love the story part in the cutscene aspect of You know the memories of breath of the wild that was like my favorite part Whoever's voice acted in this game. Just please voice act everything Right Look, I know I know they're not going to voice act the entire game. That's asking too much I shouldn't be asking too much, but it is Well, whoever does is voice acted like every line, please Not just like pick and choose every line. Yeah, I mean cast return in as well Oh, yeah, I love cast I can see like some random NPC travelers that you meet like I wouldn't care if they weren't voice acted But for sure every major character It's jarring going from the cutscene where king rome has got these big epic speeches at the beginning of the game And he tells you all this stuff and then if you're back into gameplay and cutscenes over and then it's just I'm going oh, and there's text like that's jarring, you know Yeah, so yeah It's like I was like I was loving this come on Like king rome. You don't even have that many lines Just he doesn't have them spoken You're the easiest one of all the voice acting characters to have your lines spoken You and the great daiku tree just everything we spoken But I felt that way about any character that's voice acted I feel like needs to be that way I would love if voice acting was there in the whole world because there are games that do that But look if they aren't going to do that, which again, we technically can't confirm because he hasn't actually talked to anybody And then in the gameplay that's we don't know We just have a little korak over in the corner basically begging for help or a little korak I kind of didn't even Now if that guy found him already we helped him already Oh, you're just Too many koraks back in breath of the wild We've been through this 900 times. We don't need right Yeah So Yeah, I don't know it's it's gonna be really interesting Just to see How they handle the voice acting because I know that again if they're listening to criticism That was one of the criticism the characters you had voiced still weren't fully voiced And nobody really understands why because these are key important characters in the story Why can't every land like when I talked to them they should still Physically talk to me back now Maybe I get an ability to skip it or maybe I could turn it off. I get on off toggle But it should be there because it just adds to the immersion of the world Um And and so hopefully that is something that they've learned and granted I cut them a little slack with breath of the wild Maybe I shouldn't have but I did because they hadn't really dabbled in voice acting In a in a core Zelda game. So it's kind of like, okay You know you're trying new things and I'm just happy you're trying Well, I'm actually just gonna be happy you try it this time I need more I need to see you learn and get better So we'll see with how good Ganon sounds like already like I'm expecting a nice showing of Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. That's what I'm hoping. I think we'll have more characters voice acting in this game than in Breath of the Wild At least the guy that sells stuff, right? The guy that sells stuff would be with the big guy Beedle, Beedle, Beedle, Beedle. Yes Thank you Yeah We need more than thank you voice acting. Come on. We need we need a full Beedle voice acting But I definitely want him to say thank you like he did in Wind Waker Wait, so are we gonna see Teal in the game? That'd be crazy. No, that'd be crazy. We better We better be on his islands and like, you know You know me he's gonna have a skyline phone call coming in Oh my gosh It says Nintendo contacts Yeah, Nintendo's calling in you got you're talking too much. So I Oh We're in trouble For All right, so Is there anything else you guys want to kind of touch on what you're thinking like there's other stuff too like side quests and no one's I haven't seen anyone Based building any any base building enjoyers like so are we gonna see those like there's like foundations foundations for buildings? Yeah, I'm like building materials Like I I think it's gonna happen Territown that whole side quest was like one of the best side quests in breast I can see just like that being expanded across the whole world of Hyrule and that would be incredible He's alterhand as well building Oh, yeah, because like what are they what are they gonna do with alterhand plots? Like, you know Or like let's say if there is an alterhand plus like I think that base building is just it makes sense because one of the aspects is rebuilding Hyrule in this game Um, that's what it looks like. Anyways, we don't know for sure allegedly I mean, it looks like there's a lot of building materials everywhere But technically we haven't confirmed we get to interact with any of it yet Well, we get to interact with they could in the vehicles Yeah, they could be there just for vehicles, but I hope it's not just for that Dude, if I get to build my own flying bowser island that'd be Oh, do that be I mean like I I love games of base building and just sandboxes like arc and you know recently small land That's a really solid game And I think that just having that aspect of just like because it really just creates a replayability and longevity like I spent like Thousands of hours on on Breath of the Wild So I think that if a game is is a sandbox and it's a Zelda game like I'll see you guys in 10 years like I'm I'll be I'll be good for Yeah, what's your channel no longer has videos for like a year don't worry about it He found a new passion and like makes back All right, we'll get Mike back in here What Doug Bowser had to say, what would we mess up? Give them confirm Oh Oh, well, I mean, all right. It's actually coming out. It's real guys. The rumors are true There's a new Zelda game coming It was my mama Yeah, I have to if I don't pick up the phone three times. So knock on my door and she lives like 20 minutes away. So I don't want to make her Yeah, yeah Mama Odyssey mama, honestly mama Priorities yes, sir Respective It's here that I was sick and she will call me like 10 times because of because of I'm saying like, are you feeling bad? I feel bad. I feel you don't like that all I know is I want some more Evintide island style. Yes. Yeah. Yes. That was such a brilliant idea and I want to see it expanded upon I would love also master mode to launch with the game and then have like another like even harder master mode right after Do we have like in DLC or something? Yes So awesome This is a really small nitpick, but I want just to have like I didn't like the breath while you couldn't have more than one save file Unless we're having I know I like I don't want that I'm like, I'm like I count one breath of the wild save account two breath of the wild save is like Because sometimes there's some save files that are like especially Just special and I never wanted to delete them. There's some that I'll just like cycle I'll say this like My first save file playthrough like I just I don't want to have like touched That there's just exactly I want to be able to I don't want to go on a different account To replay it. I don't want to have to reset it by the way my original save file is long gone But it makes me mad that it is long gone because I just I don't want to keep making extra accounts to play the game and just You know, like starting a save file like hurts for me Yeah, master mode runs on a second account right now because I know I'll never delete that master mode run now And it's kind of like that's dumb. I should just all be on one account And I should be able to have at least three save files like in every other it's all the game. I just yeah Three save files like master mode as well as like the normal mode. Yeah, because like I've been playing on an emulator as of lately just because like I was continued to start new runs And it's like I don't want to make another nintendo account like I just don't want to do that I'm already got like five profiles on my switch. So like I'll just play on cmu. So I you know So I don't have to continue to Yeah, that's things like my most recent playthrough of breath while I did on normal mode because My master mode save file that I had on that profile was my stream save file and I got Stupidly sentimental about it. I was like, no, this was this isn't just my save file My whole stream community like is invested in this save file even though I completed it 100% I can't delete it. It's like it's gotta I can't I can't bring myself That was one of the reasons why I wanted my switch as well Because like I did the save file like The Humber save file thing so I could keep my original save Breath of the Wild like I've got like three Humbered switches. So I was one of the things I wanted to keep is my Yeah, I gotta test them or not The only the only thing that I'm curious about right now when it comes to the save file things is Um, I was thinking about buying an Australian digital copy early, right? And just making my my switch the primary switch with them playing it on us on my normal main account And if I could then pop in the cartridge when I get it and keep that save file I've never actually tested it. I've tried it with mini games. It's free. It's hard saying But it's region free. So like I don't know. I don't I could just test it. I could I could literally just go buy some indie game quick and to see if it transfers Um, if you should yeah, as long as I don't want to test it out Because then I'll be able to play the game 12 hours early that can make a difference in my plans too. So Um, if you change your because I I do a lot of the a u stuff as well as like the japan I've got a japan job as well. I really like a japan like a switch account. Um, I'll I'll check but I I don't know if it like actually transfers Um, because like I've got like a great another account with a file and there's no real purpose to it Yeah, for sure. Mm-hmm, but I've never I've never actually tested it. I just like well, it's region free Why not as long as I have a like legal copy of the game So you're like you're playing it on well, yeah, so if the game you have to select the account if A u account then yeah, yeah, no, so so How the switch works is you set an account to be the primary account on the switch Okay And any games that primary account has any secondary accounts on there can play it on that switch So what happened is I take my switch. I'd make it my australian primary switch Oh, okay And then I would have my second my american account on there, which will be able to play it As a secondary thing But then if I switch it back to that be in my primary and I have a physical copy and I put it in Can I continue my same save file that I started before? In theory, it should work pretty sure if it's as you're using the same Profile like I'm pretty sure it works. Yeah, I just wish Nintendo made this easier I've multiple switches and like I I ended up making the switch my son plays on the primary one because Like the primary console because then any games I buy digitally then he can play on his own profile whereas You know any other if it wasn't the primary Console then he would have to use my profile and that'll affect my stats and stuff like that. I don't want he's not playing on my profile so So just Nintendo just Like I love this company, but they do some ass backwards weird shit with their online stuff And it's I just wish they would make things like that aspect of it Easier to understand for people and and just like more accessible because I should probably I don't want to like fiddle with what console and which profile is the primary one in the household Just Because I usually I've got an AU account as well Now one question that I have for you guys is this do you guys remember whenever pokemon scurland vial dropped? Do you guys remember whenever like the the actual files leaked early? And people like could play the game on on their emulator online Do you guys see that happening with uh, here's the game? It's gonna leak. It's gonna leak. Yeah, every switch game. I'm going to leak it. No I'm going to no the Nintendo ninjas are coming for you. Just remember bolson is going big time with the new terry city Just don't forget. Yes Yes, I would love to see like we talked about like you potentially having to rebuild parts of my rule like what I want to build cities man. I love that quest All my base dude. I want like, you know, we got links house in the first game I want to be able to have my own house Yeah, I want to have like my own village and I can invite like dude imagine you can invite mpcs You like to come live in your own village just like terry town. Yeah, I want to build a space All of that but more customization like links house and terry town are awesome to have in breath mob But I want to be customized They don't feel fly it out. It's yeah, it's a half baked sort of Yeah, it's like we have a good idea and here it is but like we never really did anything with it Did you guys play follow for any any follow for enjoyers? Yeah, I played it Okay, so follow for has got a system the settlement system And I'd love to see something like that in tears of the kingdom We're like, you know, if you have like just a central base then You'll have settlers that come through and they'll set up shops and I'll do basically the same thing that terry town is but it's you know, kind of automated I would love to see that That'd be that'd be cool. I got two words space cowboys. Oh, here we go. You're not giving up on this whole moon thing Are you they're going on the other space the moon thing? Wait for wait for september starfield is coming on. Yeah, he's it did under research way on the moon His boss battle is on the moon with with the mice in the moon and the moon is the crash on the earth and Yeah, we're combining Majora's mask with skyward sword. It's just We're having a blast At the end it's not the mice is you love musk and the moon All right That was that was the last strawberry All right I want to kind of go around and pick like one thing we want to see from breath of the wild be improved in tears of the kingdom Because this isn't merely being talked about anymore. Oh, we got some game. I mean, yeah, but let's just be honest There's things are gonna be better. So what do we want to see about it? I'm gonna start with eric. I'll give him the first crack for everyone says his ideas Yeah, don't give me time to think of ideas. No, you get no time. No time. No time. Oh jeepers um Just one thing you'd like to be improved. I don't know. Um I've got to go to no matter what. No, I know what you do. Of course you do. No, I didn't tell just now I just thought of it. Oh nice. Okay. I'll come back to you. We'll we'll we'll start with how darin The long lost former co-host Darin Actually showed up and why did he stop becoming co-host because he stopped showing up What he showed up showing up. I'm here now. I'm here now Uh, overworld population I want more more people more settlements I want I want it all cities. Hopefully. I don't know if that's too much to ask But I just want I just want more life in the world Not to say that it was a big gripe in the first game But now having played the first game You know, that whole situation was fine I didn't feel like it was like a super negative situation where I was wishing like oh, I wish there was more here there But now that we have a sequel coming, that's something I want to see improved on. Let's see some more life in the overworld Well, not again, it kills them all at the beginning Well, we might have less life depending on how we might we might we'll see No, all right next, uh, let's go to west Okay, so mine is it's kind of like I'm gonna I'm gonna change things up. Just small just a little bit. Okay It's actually a feature from hyrule warriors So if you guys ever played the hyrule warriors age calamity, you know, they had the weapon fusing system in that game as well So I'd love to see something very similar to that system where like you've got the fusing you can do with the with your hand I'd love to see the system in the menu or you can actually fuse weapons from there And use it to like repair based on weapons you already have And just have that feature implemented in tears of the kingdom. I think that'd be sick But you know, yeah, so one thing we haven't seen the full menu system yet. So we don't know what we can do in there Exactly. Yeah. And what was funny is like we've known about the word fuse forever with you know, hyrule warriors and like You know, whatever happened with tears of the kingdom. It's like, well, this fuse name is so cool. But like It's all we've already done, you know I would even be happy if if if that ability was like tied to an npc Who was like a blacksmith you had to like bring it to Even that would be fine. Yeah, you can repair your weapons You can create new weapons based on like you take a fuse weapon You've already made and then just like have that, you know, infuse to something else And you fuse two horses together. That's the question I think that's outside of the blacksmith's The question with horses is uh, I got what I got one that that hasn't been brought up I mean, it was brought up in a little Using horses. Yeah. No, I wasn't Um, because they're doing this in this massive world, right? We do have rain They we have too much rain We have thunderstorms But I would like to see more weather like a tornado just show up all of a sudden and just kind of Make it there like like like different types of weather snow Just all of a sudden, you know seasons more dynamic weather. That's rain. Exactly. Yeah That's so much to rain all the time But more climate change Yeah There you go Yeah, I know that was gonna come up more weather more weather more weather patterns. Sure. Well seasons We get like an Al Gore parody character like shouting in the town square Oh boy All right, um, I I got one. Oh Eric has one already. Yeah. All right Um, was inspired by that. Do you keep with the shrines? I'd like to see a little bit more variety Because there there are like some shrines in there where it kind of got a little old going into them Okay, I got to fight this little guardian. Okay. I've done this about 10 times Why can I do, you know Something different I like a different enemy. Yeah, you know variety. Yes variety nintendo if they still go the the shrine route Um, that's what I'd like to see. I'd like to see each one be almost it's an own individual Thing not repeating um I mean, I do like more of the the shrine is a reward for solving the the the puzzles I like to see more of those flesh those out a little bit more too. Um, but yeah, that's kind of what I'm looking for is Is more variety and And it's a little less repetitive of shrines if they do keep going that realm I mean, that's you can just really expand that to most of the rest of the wild. Yeah A lot of sameness with like the enemies and It's a lot of things the themes a lot of very same stuff It would be nice to have a lot more variety which we already know We got more variety with the enemies because we have all the old enemies and new enemies So we already know there's more variety. We just don't know how far that variety goes Yeah Cap what do you got? So breath a lot had a lot of side quests and and actually what got me thinking about this was daren talking about replaying majora's mask, which is a very side quest heavy game And so With the amount of side quests. I want that retained. I want there to be a lot of side quests So it's like a game world of this big needs that but I felt like a lot of the sort The rewards that those side quests offered in breath wild were rather lackluster Like you'd go you do this side quest whatever and then you get like 20 rupees and it's like, well, that's Not really fun. So I just would I think it would be cool to see more of those side quests have Rewards that were more unique or more just like worthwhile getting than just like money or You know a monster part or A diamond or something like, you know, something a little more useful. Yeah. Yeah something more helpful What I'm getting before I it make me let me decide if I want to go is this quest worth it? Yeah, if the person Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like I like it like this world of warcraft that plays so much But you get a quest and it tells you the reward at the end. So like, you know, how do I really want to go for this or not? um Yeah, you know just just give it at least a hint. I I could see that that's like a more Heart containers another way of earning heart containers. Maybe you have those little heart containers and pieces like they had You know, just you know something Expanded storage. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing is is Like previous zelda games have made it so that like side quests are usually worth doing because you'll get more hearts Or you'll get more, you know, like a bigger quiver. So you can now hold more arrows or a bigger ball bag Big bag Hold more rubies Yeah, yeah, so like And breath of the wild was so Limitless with like, okay Well, you don't need a bigger quiver because you can hold 999 arrows. So it doesn't matter but but Like core ox at least I would say were most like up to a certain point were worth collecting because then you got inventory expansion um, whereas Basically every other side quest The rewards were pretty minimal. There were very few unique items or things like that I wouldn't mind if they changed it up like instead of the core ox things and we core just throw in the game And they'll have something going on. I'm sure for collection purposes, but um like for expanded storage I'd like to see a better approach where maybe there's just like a long quest chain That you do that leads to like hey now you can expand Your weapons by five add five extra slots at the end of this chain Like just something that feels more In depth than just like I picked up a rock randomly and now I have enough core ox seeds Like because that makes you also feel connected to the world and also makes you feel like you earned it Rather than just being like hey, there's 900 of these you don't even need all 900 to get all the inventory slots and Yeah Yeah, I mean, I think that that was getting marked two weapons like that's sort of a long game quest To do that. So if you want to upgrade your weapons by five and And we feel like having similar similar side quests would be welcome. I think Yeah, one of my favorite side quests was obviously the terry tile thing But that was a really long winded quest to get that town up. Yeah a lot of Oh, yeah, that felt great A lot of a lot of wood but it was a really long winded quest chain of multiple things you had to do along the way To get the town started and obviously there were still stuff you could do to expand it a little bit But it was uh, I like that we're like it's a very in-depth complex chain of quests That leads to a really unique reward at the end. I like that So one thing that I'd like to talk about real quick is like speaking of storage and whatnot If you guys remember the first trailer the sequel trailer you saw like the big ox thing It had a slew of different stuff on top of it Are we gonna be able like You know have that fox like you know lead the fox or not the fox the ox somewhere and just like utilize its storage capabilities to like Hey, here's like a tent that I can use to sleep, you know, and here's like a pot and pan that I can use That would be cool if you had different like even just your horse had like some storage even as well Like that that would definitely be a cool concept to expand on sort of like a donkey and minecraft So actually Mike Mike whenever he said fuse something to a horse Maybe you fuse weapons or odds and pans to a horse and that's how they that's how they carry it, you know If you fuse a basket to a to the horse's butt and you can carry stuff. There you go. I mean here we go I'm always throwing things at it to get the bucket. I am I'm dreading how Mike's horse is gonna be able to tell it's a horse anymore. It's like a catamari to mossy Oh, that's my horse Listen, I'm already painter what I'm gonna do with the horse because you see that cannon that they showed The tears of kingdom like the the cannon arm that link has it at a certain point. Sure That's gonna be the horse's head In the Overzeal says tears of the kingdom should draw side quest inspiration from runescape That's interesting. I like Runescape are pretty good. Yeah My name materials I've never played runescape, so You know what I enjoyed from from the old games So some of the games that I think they should bring back is as like late like being so all celebratory when we get some new item like he goes like Well, he did whatever he feels something. He was just like, whoa So the thing I was I was gonna put out there was I kind of just want, you know More customization in general like being able to change the horseshoes on my horse to change how well it rides Um, obviously being able to add satchels and stuff to carry some that's just like the horse And we we could all all day about that but like anything like even even the gear like yeah, we could paint the gear before I want to do more. I want to do more game more. I want to like well, let's say I have a favorite gear set, but I want to increase its Um durability right or its defense. Yeah, we had the great fairy fountain stuff before but I want instead of that Hey, I'm in mining all this metal or I want to take it and make plate armor that I put underneath it Like I want like just high levels of customization in like every facet of the game Like we have some in many facets But then it feels like other things are just completely ignored like oh Yeah, you can customize all this but this no no no no no But if you see this for you, maybe that's maybe that's something that we saw in the statue I think has like separate several layers that chain mail. Maybe you can actually fuse or make your make your own Oh, yeah, I know like different layered. Yeah, you can actually put together some layered armor Yeah, so to make it, you know, so maybe you're on Yeah, and you know, I think this was brought up jokingly before we're like, hey fusing armor sets together Well, I think Yeah, trans walk. Yeah, I believe it was Assassin's Creed Odyssey where you could have any Armor set you liked because of the cosmetics, but you could basically have to have the attributes of a different armor set. Yeah, that's Yeah I think horizon also did that Yep, horizon got I don't know. Yeah, no Forbidden west not but not zero dawn. I I think yeah That would be a really cool mechanic to have because I remember in Breath of the Wild There were certain armor sets that I wanted to wear that, you know, they they looked cool But I was really wearing it for the attributes, but I really wanted to have on, you know, the green tunic and whatnot, you know what I mean Just for the aesthetic of it because there are some armor sets in Breath of the Wild that are straight up out of the way So Useful, let's straight up ugly. I was always wearing a barbarian set I wasn't a huge fan of the aesthetics of it. You know what I mean? Yeah Yeah, yeah Okay Well, I think that might be a good place to wrap things up before we get some more fusing ideas with horses from mike We fuse a horse to another horse He invested in the master sword and the horse together so How about fusing a horse with the tree that you get a limited apple as you ride? I'm going to say fuse a fishing pole to the horse's head with the apple at the end. Yeah, so it's always Ask me with the with the butt or the tail I didn't know horse ass was Added the head of rhodium. Yeah, he's a fan to the horse. I'm so glad that this is not a children's channel I hope that you cannot use fuse with NPCs or anything because mike is gonna go full Pyramid of people with the horse at the top He can make sure he's gonna go food chain. I want to be the Last Oh man, all right So thank you guys so much for tuning in to episode 15 of the tenor prime I guess let's go around the table and say what we got going on and where they can find you Let's uh, well, I guess we'll just start with darin. I don't know what he has going on. What's up, man? What are you doing? I don't have much going on. I'm on twitter at real dern Dern I'm out here. You created the original password for my twitter account back in the day I did I created the the twitter handle Uh and all that jazz nitty prime that was on me horrible handle, but uh, I did it and uh Yeah, I'm I'm not really doing anything in the video game sphere as of right now except for apparently this podcast Hey, you requested on I didn't even ask you. I did I did I did specifically Just admit you miss it The game is coming up and you're just like I miss the old days the nostalgia is How to do it and you know, I I hope to return so oh, no No, no, no, no the the comment um, brian do with the two dollars. I'll be the one to say it's horse apede Is its name? I'm just we're gonna go there. Oh boy. See anyone knows that movie reference. Yep. All right. Yep Brian thumbs up. It's a great. It's a great reference I just want to I just want to tell eric I think I remember that he's a packers fan. Oh, yeah, and your team's gonna suck this season It's possible But uh, you're missing some key players and you're receiving core So we'll see how that pans out, but I can't really say much because I'm a washington fan, so You've been waiting to talk smack about a good team. Yeah Yeah, I have Listen, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a play a page from the Cowboys playbook and say this is our year So Sam howl yeah He's a rookie. Hey, he's a rookie and he's currently undefeated in the nfl He's one and oh his first pass was a touchdown pass And uh, I'm in Washington right now one of my uh madden leagues and sam howls my guy, baby He's taken me through the championship game twice. I know like it's insuperable Well, you know, it's yeah Yeah West nemo, what's you got going on and where can they find you? Um, yeah, so it's I just look up youtube, uh west nemo on youtube covering god of oragnar I just released a new game plus update Covering some hogwarts legacies all the tears of the cane and basically just every everything gaming, you know Covered all skull vikes and uh, yeah, go check me out on the youtube's on the tubers The view that tubes you just got a subscriber milestone, right? Didn't I see that? Oh No, i'm coming for you i'm catching up. Oh, you're getting there dude. I'm catching up I'm under 10k away Social blade has me at 100k a year from now, so i'll be i'll be right So it has me at 100k in my congrats by the way, right? That being said speaking of mike Congratulations on 30k mike. Yeah, hell. Yeah Also, congrats to hundreds restart for 20k, but he's not here so I could they both hit the smile So in the last week the 20k. Yeah, we're getting some dubs around here. Uh, mike. What you got going on? Where can they find you? Uh, first of all 30k 30k, I want to say thank you guys everybody Everybody here on the on the panel. Thank you guys for your support. You guys are amazing Uh, and everybody in the chat as well 30k is crazy then and then averaging 40 48 hundred subscribers per month. I've never thought I would ever do that my life So I'm from here two months too much from now. We'll be celebrating 40k and 50k. Thank you west for your mentorship And you know that all you buddy all you buddy turn us all around Yeah, like from the last time I talked to west to now I've gained like 20 000 subscribers. Yeah Well, that's the key. He's the key to the kingdom of youtube. What I what I what I have what I have right now is um, the very ambitious 37 day well 36 day tomorrow 36 day stream Until tears of the kingdom and if you want to hear me Talk about all of my ideas of what else got confused with horses What wait what They come check me out, uh come check me out. I'm streaming every day from eight from seven from seven seven From seven from eight no from seven. I can't remember. Well, it's a seven It's a minute chat. Tell me what was it is it seven or a I can't remember Anyway, it's only a two hour stream, you know to our stream. Sure. Sure. Um, and yeah, I'm trying to stream every single day I went from streaming and not streaming at all To now you're like a full timer So streaming every day, you know streaming every night until tears of the kingdom comes out. So, yeah I mean I got a lot of ideas. I'm walking at merge with horses. You just have to come by I'll tell you a couple of them, you know I'm definitely Can happen I have concerns While I play tears of the kingdom the um, um breath of the wild and Master, but I got a feeling his ideas are much more PG on his own stream But it'll be like he saved the PG 13 stuff for here on his channel. He's too family friendly to go Hey, what can we attach to the horse's ass? I'm you know, I don't know Look, it's me just find a horse Horse's ass I'm trying to stream trying to break 100 viewers if you if you can stop by I see some of your streams are over 50 and 60. I saw For the first for some reason the first the very first one I think at one point it went to 500 viewers But I think it's because it's the whole stream room tears of kingdom. I'm like Oh, yeah, the title is that they made it solid tears of the kingdom, man I said tears of the kingdom countdown Livestream, yeah Yeah, but we're like here's the kingdom Tune it. Oh, it's just a guy playing in breath of the wild Anyway, yes, yeah, that's all You trick the algorithm for a moment. Yeah Oh, by the way, by the way the entombing podcast making a huge return Nice soon very soon. I'm gonna put on uh an announcement soon. I have to I have to uh check with the group To make sure they're all on board for that specific day. What's that confirmation the entombing podcast? So, you know, you're gonna have on Mondays you have our day's restart Wednesdays you have mp prime And fridays you'll have the entombing podcast. So you so, you know, you guys have monday wednesday fridays podcast day stuff, so That's that's what nice Nice, that's all i'm gonna say. This is nice. I'll stop talking now because i'm talking It's all right uh The good old captain. Where could they find you? What you got going on journal? Yeah, everything all social media is our capped burgerson That's capt b u r g e r s o n as in. Oh my gosh. The captain of this boat is an actual burger But it's my dad and um, yeah, I make a lot of zelda videos So if you like zelda videos if you like zelda dungeons and dungeon level design analyses and Tears of the kingdom speculation Or you just want to hang out and watch me stream and Do wacky voices for all the characters in phantom hour glass or something crazy like that. Yeah, that's what's going on on my channel You have any ideas on how to merge horses, but we're gonna combine streams and talk about that We should maybe we should But you have an upcoming video about the what what I think is going to go on with the master sword in this game So it's uh look out for that next week. It's gonna be good Hi And you guys should go check out his channel for all of his dungeon analysis videos. They are the best On the whole of you. Love me some dungeons The whole of youtube so go go check those out Uh again all channels will link down to the description if you guys can't figure any of that out Um, eric, what are you guys going on? Where can they find you here? Yes? That's it? Yes Well at emo 87 90 at twitter, but I mean yeah, he's not gonna read well. He'll read. Oh, I read He'll read He uh, it's funny how I'll mention something happened on twitter. He's like, oh, I know I read He's following all my tweets on twitter. He's a lurker Oh, I'm on camp urges's livestream. I'm gonna say hi. I'm just gonna I had no idea, but thank you eric for tuning in Anyways, you guys you guys know who I am at this point Because this is obviously the nintendo prime podcast show, but if you don't and you're new I'm not really surprised Three days. We've we've gained 2800 subscribers in the last three days. I don't know what's happening Um, but thank you for being here. I appreciate it at this rate. We read it promotion. You're getting Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure Shout out to our slash tears of the kingdom Love me there. I'm their favorite content creator. I see Pop up on that sub every day and it makes my day every time They're pretty silent when he's right though I'm right. They just say I'm a broken clock. I'm like, okay. Yeah, well clock that has a I don't know how that works, but hey, you know what got announced today that uh, I was right on again Just to pat my own back. Hey, uh, final fantasy pixel remasters coming to switch It's almost like a year ago or something pat myself on the back for that one that everyone called me a liar last year uh, anyways It's almost like when I know things I know things. I just don't always know what's gonna happen. I just know what's coming. Um Anyways Yeah, look, I don't know what's happening at this rate. We'll be at 100k by next week's podcast I I have no clue if that that the pace is gonna maintain for that But thank you guys has been absolutely incredible, uh journey One thing happened to me this week that I I didn't expect Uh, and I guess it was just the whole I'm slowly like leaving the small youtuber crowd In terms of expectations on my channel And I don't know what to do about that So I'm just gonna keep doing my thing until It doesn't work anymore. Well, you let me know when you find out get lost. Yeah It don't like it's weird because now like there's you're gonna switch up honest I'm so used to being like as dinky youtuber to do whatever he wants now It's like but now I gotta be even more careful because if I say one thing if I take like one wrong misstep It isn't just like one person that complains It becomes like a hundred people and then it becomes this big drama and I'm like Yeah, it comes a whole subreddit like I'm just not used to that because The explosion honestly happened over like the last few months Um, and I went from like a nobody that nobody listened to to now. Um People are listening and I'm getting like 30 000 views on videos and I don't know what to do with that So I'm just gonna keep doing my thing because my thing keeps working. I'm not perfect I make mistakes. I'm really sorry about the mistakes I make. I do want to be better. I do want to learn from the mistakes But uh, thank you guys for joining me on this journey. It's been incredible. The podcast is getting more views than ever You guys are awesome. Thank you to all the guests we have on all the time You know, once you guys have been on multiple times except darin. I mean I used to be on all the time used to be on Well, I don't know all that we delayed podcast for you that you didn't show There was that one podcast I showed up to drunk and then disappeared halfway through. Yeah I kind of figured you were getting late or something. I don't know. I just I'm pretty sure I just passed out In your drink You know, seriously thank you guys for all the support. It's been absolutely incredible Um, you can obviously follow our podcast everywhere podcast to her. We'll get last week's episode I think up tonight. Hopefully this week's episode up tonight, too We'll see. Um, but thank you guys so much for all the support. It's been absolutely incredible The podcast is my favorite piece of content. I do every single week. I want to continue to keep this podcast growing I would like to see this podcast one day hit 30 000 views every episode. That would be awesome Because this is one of this is literally the foundation of nintendo prime for those who don't know We were a podcast before we were anything else before we had a website before we did other youtube content It was a podcast and it's been here still to this day And we're going to keep it going for as long as i'm doing this thing So or I should say as long as I have enough friends that want to come on a show and talk with me because Kind of an asshole sometimes and i'm really sorry about that Well, I think uh, I think you're doing great. I think everyone here is doing great Mike west daniel, I think you guys are all doing great Eric is here Um, but you know, I think uh, I think you're doing good. So congratulations to everybody on all those subscribers So they're getting recently and yeah, yeah, congratulations. Yeah Absolutely You're the next you want we got to bring up We got like this thing going we keep carrying people up. We got to get the next person up So you're you're let me see the other thing if there's ever a channel that deserves more views and more attention It is cabernicus and you need to Check out his His content is so next level Why subscribe to cat It's not too kind it's the truth man. It's like One of my most high viewed videos on the my channel is one that you made back when it was zelda informer, you know, like that whole uh theory about What was the dragon rick theory? um Yes Like that that was amazing and he just makes content like that all the time on his channel um, and he's had success he does as was doing some of this platoon content a bit ago, but um, he deserves so much more attention Uh, he's the smallest creator here besides darin who doesn't create anymore. So my creator here, uh, but I'm creating here It's his content is some of the inspiration for mine and you guys should really just go If you I don't have a massive zelda audience right now because I'm spamming those zelda videos because I love talking zelda Go to his channel, man You're gonna see an in-depth look at zelda in a way I can't do anymore because I don't focus on just zelda I know it feels like I do right now But I don't do that and he focuses primarily on zelda I'm telling you like any of your favorite zelda games Just go he's got videos for you I I kid you not if cab rickerson's not at 20,000 subscribers went into this year. I'll be disappointed. I'm gonna show them on every week My goal was like five Yeah, we're getting 20 we're jumping we're jumping that way 20k by summer Oh, there you go. That's ambitious I mean my channel is pretty new because I did work on like other people's channels Yeah, but I feel like it gave me a head start that once I was gonna once I was ready to like really go all in on my own content I have the skill set to like You know to take with me. So I think yeah, man for a lot longer than you realize I you know You think that but if I like going to watch some of my old videos. I'm like, man This editing is Go go watch the first Well, hey, man, you know the fact that you that you even say that just means that You know in your own eyes your editing has come a long way, which means your channel said it So, yeah, that's great to hear. I appreciate it. Just just keep it up man. It means a lot Yeah, yeah Like you guys, you know every time we have them on you're instantly a crowd favorite I'm like and you guys better be subscribed if he's your favorite. Come on now. Yeah, man All right, guys, let's go do it for this week. Catch you guys same time next week exactly one month out from tears of the king Let's go Later guys Love you