 The families first that the current Premier has touted since day one has not applied to our families. And there are deputy ministers and other bureaucrats who demand that we work within their checklists and how to raise our children and get our children back. And as recent as Friday last week there was a meeting that many attended and one of the staff people of the deputy minister basically threatened that if you're doing this or you're doing that then we're not going to pay for your travel and we're not going to pay for this and that. And so those heavy handed approaches to how we come together to discuss our children and families is inappropriate and not appreciated and not tolerated. And I will bring this up with Doug Hughes when he's here tomorrow on behalf of the Ministry of Children and Families. The other is around the women's initiatives, the Aboriginal women and I know there's been a lot of, I guess, attention brought to the murdered and missing women but also just women in general because the first place that suffers budget cuts are women's programs initiatives and I understand through this booklet that we've got from the union that Marr had established a minister's advisory council on Aboriginal women which was absolute news to me. The first time I've heard about it was when I read this and as a member, an interim member of the BCFN women's council I think we should be a little more informed about the women's initiatives that are going on about Aboriginal women and I will raise this as well tomorrow with the chairperson when they give their report but there's the Native Women's Association of Canada and a number of others that I think provincially if we could get assistance to coordinate these efforts it would feed nicely into the national agenda for women.