 Good morning everyone and a really warm welcome to this webinar on tracking Sweden's consumption based environmental impacts. We're going to, for the next 90 minutes, look at the gaps and opportunities for measuring consumption based environmental impacts and in light of what we need to do. Not just to achieve SEG 12 on responsible consumption and production, but I would say really all the SEGs in a way. My name is Osa Pashon. I'm research director and deputy director at the Stockholm Environment Institute. We are really delighted, very pleased to host this webinar today on behalf of all the project partners of the PRINCE project. We are going to hear more about this project in a little while. I will hand over to the project lead, but let me first set the scene a little bit and share with you why we think this is really important research from an SEI perspective. Because today we are focusing on Sweden as you know, but we do think this is a really important global issue and we need to understand the global context here. So I think for most of you tuning in today, we already know why sustainable consumption is a critical issue, but just to remind ourselves, first of all, I think science has really become more assertive on the need to tackle sustainable consumption and production than previously. We have of course known about this issue for a long time, but if we look at, for example, the synthesis of big scientific assessments that UNEP launched last year making peace with nature, they looked at the IPCC reports, the IPES reports, the GEO reports, other major scientific assessments. They really concluded very clearly that we need to more fundamentally, more systematically address our consumption and production patterns. So it appears that science is becoming more assertive on this topic. And of course, looking at the scale of the challenges we're facing, again, we need to really understand consumption drivers and the economic systems within which we operate. We need to decarbonize our economies by some 7%. And we know also about the huge issues we're facing with biodiversity loss, pollution, chemicals, etc. So we feel that it's really past the point where we can address marginal changes that individual consumers can make or individual producers can make, but really to look at the bigger systems for consumption and production. Taking a global perspective, it's also very, of course, important to really integrate equity in this discussion. And this is where the consumption perspective becomes so incredibly important and useful. For example, for Sweden, we know that when we look at how we perform on the SDGs, this country is typically ranked in the top three every year. If we look at, however, our spillovers and our interactions with the rest of the world, the picture is very different. So our consumption footprints are much, much larger than what is sustainable. So the challenges are big, but we also see some opportunities on the horizon and to really sort of start shifting, bending the curves, shifting perspectives in order to achieve the SDG-12 and other important sustainable consumption and production objectives. One of these opportunities will happen in June next year in Stockholm, where Sweden and Kenya will host the Stockholm Plus 50 international UN meeting to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first ever UN conference on the human environment, which took place in 1972. In our discussions with the Swedish government from SEI, we have indeed highlighted the opportunity to really tackle sustainable consumption and production at this meeting for Sweden to really take a lead and show how we work with this issue. We have also seen that it will likely be integrated in the leadership dialogues that are now being planned, also by UNEP as the UN focal point for the conference. SEI will provide an independent scientific report to inform this meeting together with an Indian partner, the Council for Environment, Energy and Water. We will definitely mainstream the issue of consumption and lifestyles in our analysis. So these were some big words, big challenges. We need system change. We need to change the discourse and narratives around our economic systems, but for us it's also very important that this is a science-based discussion properly informed by data and measures. So this is why PRINCE is such an important project to ensure that policy is indeed based on data and best available science. So with that I would like to hand over now to I believe we go directly to Anita Lundström. We are still waiting for Nils Brown to join us. So over to you, Anita Lundström, Senior Advisor at the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency. Thank you very much, Osa. It's a pleasure to be here and it had been so nice to see you in real, but this works as well. So I just will give a short introduction to PRINCE and why we are doing this and why we had done this earlier. So please, next slide. So why PRINCE? Yes, the generational goal. We have had like 10, a little bit more than 10 years and there are very beautiful words. A society in which this major environmental problems in Sweden have been solved without increasing environmental and health problems outside Sweden's border. There are also other environmental quality objectives and again that 2030 that have been interesting in this and motivating why PRINCE. So we needed PRINCE to get a method to calculate and quantify the environmental pressure caused by Swedish consumption abroad as well as nationally to help us to better understand the patterns as well as the consequences of what we are doing. And the generational goal is intended to guide environmental action at every level of society and it indicates the sort of changes in society that need to occur within one generation to bring about a clean healthy environment. And the environmental quality objective describes the quality of the environment that Sweden strives to achieve and to achieve this knowledge is needed and we need to have a better understanding, better knowledge to build a ground for policy development which is necessary to get a better base for decision making. And when we have this base then it's also more possible to implement the environmental policy in collaboration with other organizations and to reach their objectives. So what are the environmental pressures followed exerted by Swedish consumption abroad? So we have a lot of different way to use the result from PRINCE as we can develop indicators. We can have a base for discussion on change it needed and give a base for policy development as I said before. And this helps also to point out or indicate the sort of changes that we need. So next slide please. And we have a good example of how we have worked with Swedish consumption based greenhouse gases. We had started with that already before this project but it was not good enough to use as really statistics and we needed to work more on that. So that's why it was included in the PRINCE program. And here you can see I just want to show how it looks like. Normally I also put in the consumption, I mean the territorial figures but here it's just the consumption figures for Sweden and we can see here that in the first up left you could see the difference between what we produce from what we eating and drinking and driving cars and all that and the difference between what we produce inside Sweden and what we take from outside or the pressure we put on others. And we also could divide them into groups for individuals and as you see that it looks like it's not going so much more than nearly just for the right forward but we have to think of that we have been nearly increasing with one million people. So it's actually a decrease if you look at per person per capita. So that's and to follow this it helps us to see that we don't just put over all the pressure to other countries when we're succeeding in reducing it at home in Sweden. And so this is important and I think now we should have the next slide please. So in Prince II we really looked forward to find more time serious for chemicals for instance. We had to, we wanted to know more about the cultivated fish, how to form fish, what that gives for sort of pressure on the environment. And we have not succeeded to work enough with biodiversity so we wanted more of that. And we want also to develop more new indicators for the generational goal and also we want to have more possibilities to to also have policy discussion on how to do what to do so we could have a better society and better future for coming new generations. So with this I want to give over the floor to Elina Dawkins, the Research Fellow at Stockholm Environmental Institute. Thank you. Thank you very much Anita and yeah hello everyone my name is Elina Dawkins I'm a Research Fellow at SCI and I've been told that we've just been joined by the Project Lead for Prince who is joining by phone Nils Brown. I think if he's would like to jump in with a few words just to welcome everybody. Sure can everybody hear me? Yep. Excellent well of course well thanks very much I'm sorry I couldn't be connected. Everybody if we can go to the slides I think we have a great agenda today and I'm very pleased to welcome everybody on behalf of the project to the webinar today. So we will momentarily I'll pass back to Elina one of our experts in the Prince project. He'll be presenting some of the findings from both Prince I and Prince II but then we have Chris West and Martin Pression and myself will also be presenting some of the further findings. After that on the owl we're going to go back to a panel discussion where we're very very happy to welcome Jorge Lagona Celis who is head of the Secretary of the 10-year Framework Programme for Sustainable Consumption of Production at the United Nations Environment Programme also joined by Eva Arnau senior advisor at the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency and Emma Noriam who is chair of the Swedish Parliamentary Committee on the Environmental Goals. And that discussion will be chaired by a key member of the Prince team in the other Professor of Environmental Strategic Analysis at KTH Royal Institute of Technology and after that also and I will deliver some closing remarks. So without further ado and apologies for the delay I'm very happy to hand back to Elina. Thanks very much everybody it's very nice to see you all. Okay thanks very much Nils. All right so I'm going to present to you a bit about what we did in the first Prince project Prince 1. The key findings and how some of the first Prince project findings have been used in policy and this project ran from 2015 to 2019 and was the first phase of Prince and today then we'll go on to talk about the second phase the results of which you'll hear more about today but this second phase builds on the model and data development which we completed in the first phase. If we could go to the next slide. Thanks so the original aims of the Prince project were to estimate the environmental pressures exerted by Swedish consumption abroad and a development approach that could be used to accurately monitor and compare these pressures consistently over time. Go to the next slide. So to deliver on these aims what do we do? So firstly we investigated several different modelling options. The original aims of the Prince project were to... So a little bit of feedback there. Okay I'll keep going. Yep we investigated several different modelling options and we selected and developed a new approach based on input output analysis and this approach coupled the Swedish statistical data with a multi-regional input output model called ExiaBase and a key advantage of this approach was that you get good representation of the Swedish statistical data from Swedish National Statistics combined with a good representation of the pressures associated with imports to Sweden via very complex global supply chains from the ExiaBase database. So following that we collected all of the unnecessary environmental data to make all of the indicators that were interesting. So things like resource use such as materials, land and water, emissions to air and hazardous chemical products and then we developed the Prince model, calculated the Swedish footprints, the environmental pressures associated with Swedish consumption and we did this for a time series from 2008 to 2014 and analysed the results and on top of this we did several in-depth case studies which some of which we also build on in Prince 2. Next slide please. Yeah so what can the Prince model tell us overall? It can give us this macro level overview of the changes in environmental pressures due to Swedish consumption over time and no matter where in the world those pressures occur they're all allocated to the final goods consumed in Sweden. This means that we can also see the geographical hot spots of those environmental pressures and identify where in the world Swedish consumption drives environmental impacts and for which consumption items like food or textiles. So we had if we go to the next slide you can see the outputs that we had from Prince, from the first phase of the Prince project and in summary we had some the largest available footprint dataset for Sweden to date including all of these indicators for the time series that you can see here and one year for different types of chemical veterinary products and as I mentioned we made several case studies some of which you can see on the slide and all of these results publications and reports can be found on our website on our new website which you can see at the link in the bottom so you can find all of the Prince 1 results there and then we will update that with the Prince 2 findings as well when we as they come out. So if we go to the next slide I'll give you a quick overview of some of the key findings we found in the first phase of the Prince project. So we found to start with that the majority for the majority of environmental pressures the impact of Swedish consumption is far higher than production as also mentioned at the beginning and you can see here for a variety of indicators I think land use is the only one that's the exception to that rule. So yeah that's very important to show the value of consumption based accounting and understanding these impacts from consumption in the first place. And if we go to the next slide you can see that the majority of Swedish consumption based pressures fall outside of Sweden again with the exception of land use but here for a selection of a few indicators you can see where those impacts are being felt whether that's in Sweden the rest of the EU or outside of the EU and for some of these the differences is very stark so 90% of the impact of veterinary medicines for example is occurring outside of Sweden for Swedish consumption. So it's happening in other countries of the world to satisfy the consumption in Sweden. And we can even if we look on the next slide we can even see some of the global hotspots of where the impacts are happening. So for example the rest of the EU China and Russia stand out as some of the key global hotspots of pressures from Swedish consumption. And I mean this is I'm trying to generalise across many indicators but this does vary depending on indicators and you can see in the graph there for blue water use for example Spain features quite prominently as a hotspot of pressure associated with Swedish consumption. So it does vary between indicators but in general we can say something about where the pressures are occurring in the world and also for what types of products that Swedish that is consumed in the Swedish economy. So for things like food products construction and fossil fuels have higher footprints for many of the environmental pressures. So lastly on the last slide we go to the next one we can see that over time there has been a small reduction in many of the environmental pressures of Swedish consumption between 2008 and 2014 excluding material use which went up. But despite this again is clear that greater reductions are required if we are to avoid major environmental problems such as global heating and damage to ecosystems and biodiversity loss we still need to reduce these footprints quite considerably. So lastly I've got the last two slides to tell you a little bit about how the prince data and the approach have been used in policy making so far. So firstly taking Sweden we've been tracking a bit about how the data and model have been used by policy makers and we found that in Sweden policy makers have used this kind of footprint data to understand the scale of the challenge of sustainable consumption explain these concepts and challenges to others take more of a supply chain perspective in their work and recognize the importance of engaging actors along the whole supply chain. It's also been used to inform some legislation and particularly in highlighting the role of procurement in sustainable consumption and production policy. The prince data have also been used to support the ongoing inquiry into consumption based greenhouse gas emissions target in Sweden which you'll hear more about later and for this the prince team and statistics Sweden in particular have been providing detailed data deliveries and also helping to assess the GHGs embodied in Sweden's exports. The prince model was also adopted by statistics Sweden and is now used for producing the official Swedish statistics on consumption based greenhouse gas emissions which have now been updated to the latest year 2019 and the prince results have also been used for monitoring the Swedish environmental quality objectives and sustainable development goals. It's also been used further in research for mistra sustainable consumption program for example. Statistics Sweden is working further on the development of multi-regional environmental input output model for Sweden and myself and colleagues at SEI are working on breaking down the national level greenhouse gas emissions footprint data to municipal and postcode level in Sweden. So lastly I'll just give you an idea of how some of the prince data and approach have been used in policy more globally as well. Some of the prince findings have been used to support the development of the proposed EU legislation on deforestation that's coming up under consultation currently. Also to understand the impacts of UK consumption on biodiversity loss and deforestation and by several NGOs for monitoring deforestation as well informing the EU debate on carbon border adjustments and also by the Danish energy agency for consumption based greenhouse gas emissions indicator and all of this and more will be explained in our final report which will come out in March which I think Niels will tell you a bit more about at the end of the webinar. So now I'll hand over to my colleagues on the prince project who'll tell you about how we're building on this prince the first prince project developing prince one and the new indicators that we're looking at in prince two. So I'll hand over now to Chris West from SEI York who'll tell you about their team's work on biodiversity and fisheries in prince two. Thank you. Thank you Ely. So thanks Ely. My name's Chris West and I'm a senior director at the York centre of SEI in the UK and I'll just be covering two of the analyses that we've been doing for the prince two project which have aim to explore how current in the coverage of Sweden's consumption based counting might be filled. So the first day I'll be talking about the inclusion of biodiversity metrics which wasn't something we looked at at all in the first prince project and next slide please. Increasingly global biodiversity loss is being recognised now alongside climate change as one of the world's biggest challenges and during COP26 we saw international recognition of the role that international markets are playing in driving deforestation and biodiversity loss and additionally next year's Convention on Biological Diversity meeting will be vital for setting action on the 2020 agenda. However, the issue of developing mechanisms and to monitor reports on overseas biodiversity losses and one reason for this is that biodiversity is quite complex. There's no simple metric which accounts for the various aspects of biodiversity that we might wish to monitor and whilst things like land area or deforestation and land use change can provide good proxies for the pressures placed on biodiversity they don't necessarily fully align with all of the pressures that we might be experiencing globally on species. Next slide. Now the complexity in measures that have been developed to account for biodiversity in supply chain or by all consumption linked impact assessments can be quite overwhelming but many can actually just be down to a few broad categories. So for example shown here and they're not fully comprehensive and indeed there's going to be a overlap between these categories but they have to cover some of the most approaches. Now one approach that can be adopted is the explicit assessment of threats to species that can then be linked to biodiversity loss and this might for example be utilising the diversity threat categories which are then linked to sectors in the multi-region output model and these sectors that act as drivers for these threats. Just get the head of slide there Ian. One of the authors of this board, by model changes in biodiversity, can be linked to the extent or quality of habitats which can then in turn then be linked to production processes and for anyone can simply assess the risk to species by means of production as observed or model information on species abundance or species rain. Now overall Alexander Marquez has highlighted the multiple mechanisms that can be needed for biodiversity but they make the case that these measures should be adopted in impact assessments and should really refer to at least two aspects. First a measure of the species extinction risk and also the ecosystem function affected potentially by production and consumption. When deciding which consumption based accounts must consider a variety of things. Firstly what's being measured so we can't usually measure biodiversity directly itself so our measures and metrics have to be based on subjects of data and properties and these may tell us about potential pressures placed on biodiversity or may attempt to quantify impacts more accurately. We must also understand what is actually driving biodiversity impact in the metrics. Most biodiversity metrics are land use change but others are in use too such as the potential impacts associated with pollution although these are typically less well developed internationally. We must also consider how easy it is to apply and communicate the measures how easily is the data accessed is there enough documentation around it are they globally available and how easy is it for the lay person to understand what's being monitored. And finally we need to understand whether the metrics are responsive to real world changes on the ground. We need to understand how and whether the metric will actually respond to positive interventions in landscapes for example or to the further degradation of environmental conditions. Next slide please Ian. So hopefully this is on my side a bit laggy but hopefully you can now see a table and I thought it'd be very useful just to quickly illustrate the application of biodiversity metrics within consumption based accounting. This example was actually conducted within the work for the UK government that Ellie mentioned earlier but the results for Sweden is shown in this table and we integrated two simple biodiversity measures linked to agricultural production systems. The first was based on a species error relationship which quantifies the potential species associated with agricultural production and another metric used a geospatially defined crop extent to scale the hectares of agricultural land used by the species richness in those areas and we can see that although approximately half of the mass of agricultural production linked to Swedish consumption is produced domestically i.e. within Sweden the land required and the associated risks to biodiversity are disproportionately felt outside of Sweden. Next slide please. And so far a further breakdown of this data we can also observe that whilst the bulk of land required for Swedish consumption is actually distributed across the northern hemisphere the biodiversity metrics tend to put greater weight on production in the tropics so there's these differences in the in the spatial extent the spatial impact areas the hot spots that can be observed by the integration of biodiversity information. Next slide please. So overall biodiversity risks and impacts already can be linked to consumption based accounting their examples of this having been done and with this in mind we recommend that it's possible to move ahead with incorporating simple but fit for purpose metrics of biodiversity into Sweden's accounts. Given however the research landscape that surrounds this area continues to advance rapidly we feel that the research should be kept under review over time and we also recognise a need to improve upon areas of biodiversity impacts that are not so well researched for example links between pollution and species loss and the impacts of non-terrestrial environments for example. Finally support should be provided particularly for the maintenance of data sets and tools to keep them current and responsive over time. So I'm now just going to move then to the fisheries gap analysis that we've been conducting. I hope the slides are keeping up because I can't see them on my screen but hopefully it'll work for everybody else. So I'm now going to give an overview as I said of some of the work we've been doing on fisheries production and this builds upon and advances initial work that was done in the prince and the first prince project and next slide please Ian and fisheries production has received somewhat limited attention to date in consumption based accounting. This is really one of the key reasons why we're working on this area in prince two but we're also looking at fisheries because they ultimately are an important contribution to global nutritional security and are also important for global economies. Sustainable fisheries also form a key component of the sustainable development goals but they've historically been quite poorly managed. Capture fisheries for example have been associated with overfishing and environmental damage and aquaculture production which has risen dramatically in the past 20 to 30 years and is now as a result comparable to the mass produced in capture fisheries is associated with other environmental concerns and the impacts associated with fisheries very widely so they vary by the production location the species course or harvested the technologies used and so on and therefore obtaining more granular information on the linkages between consumption and those fisheries production systems can help to unpick which impacts or risks Swedish consumption might be linked to. Next slide. So here are a few of the key impacts that are associated with fisheries that we've been exploring in this gap analysis and on the left is sort of classic concern associated with capture fisheries potential damage to habitats that certain fishing gears cause and in this case it's the damage from bottom trawling which just has quite stark habitat effects. On the top right is another key concern linked to capture fisheries the by-catch or discards associated with non-selective gear types where species are effectively thrown away because they have no economic value or because they exceed quota limits and on the bottom right we have a key concern associated with aquaculture production algal blooms and eutrophication which are linked to nutrient loading from unused feed. Next slide. So with imprints too we've undertaken the construction of a new preliminary environmental extension for the consumption based account for fisheries and we're using a couple of data sets here so FAO data in the form of something called fish stat J is the core data set for this account and it provides a baseline time series of global capture and aquaculture production by country of production compiled then from official reported records which is submitted to the UN FAO. Now for marine fisheries we're also using information from a project called Sea Around Us which is a project based at the University of British Columbia in Canada and this data set provides estimates of the gear types utilized for those captures and the discards associated with those gears. We can combine those two data sets to disaggregate the capture estimates into the gear types used and also the discards that those gear types are associated with and then we can do this across the full time series of data that we have for individual countries of production for individual species or species groups targeted by those countries and these data then comprise an environmental extension to the XCO base multi-regional input output model which then provides us with a consumption based account. Next slide. So for marine captures these new data allows to understand the contribution of gear types to the Swedish fisheries footprint and also the associated discard rates. So here we show the total marine captures linked to Swedish consumption the most obvious take home here really is that marine capture fisheries have become overall less important to Swedish consumers over time but we can also see that pelagic or midwater trawling which is shown in the blue area at the bottom of the chart there seems to have decreased substantially in importance as a fishing method. We can also break this sort of data down into the individual species or species group targeted although I haven't got time actually to show this this morning. You also note here that there is a grey hatched area at the top of the chart and this is an unallocated portion of the catch where we couldn't make an initial match between the two data sets fish that j and the sea around us records because of mismatches that exist in the classification schemes used and the next step for ongoing work would be to improve our allocation methods to allow better matching between those data sets. Next slide. So just quickly then for aquaculture at this stage we have simply implemented an extension based on the FAO fish debt data that provides the breakdown of sources and species linked to consumption activities and for the total Swedish footprint we can see that the contribution of aquaculture to Swedish consumption has increased and that this is dominated by the production of Atlantic salmon again shown in the blue at the bottom of the chart there. Now we know from a review of the literature that eutrophication effects are likely to be one of the key concerns when it comes to the aquacultural fisheries but we couldn't identify a global data set that covered these impacts in enough detail to fully integrate into a consumption account at this stage so this will also be a target for future work. So that's all from me I'm now going to hand to Martin who would be taking you through the next gap analysis. Thank you Chris so we're talking we'll talk a bit about what we've done in terms of land use change primarily tropical deforestation and as Chris already indicated deforestation is one of the key drivers of terrestrial biodiversity loss it's also the accounts for about 10th of global carbon emissions and impacts livelihoods for hundreds of millions of peoples across the tropics and this deforestation we know has been increasingly driven by trade in the last couple of decades and of forest risk commodities like soybeans, beef, palm oil and so on and you can go to the next slide. So one thing we did prior to the first print project there wasn't a comprehensive data set on the extent to which deforestation was driven by agricultural commodity production trade and consumption so this was a big part of what we did in print one developing model to quantify these links so what you see here on the left hand side is an update from that model showing the amount of deforestation that is attributed to different commodities across the major tropical regions Americas Asia and Africa so you can see that we attribute about four million hectares per year to production of our agriculture commodities most of it in Latin America where beef is the main driver followed by soybeans whereas in Asia for example we see the palm oil as the biggest driver of deforestation on the right hand side you see the extent to which these commodities are traded so about a quarter of the total of deforestation we attribute to agriculture commodities is internationally traded so most of the consumption driving this deforestation is still found in the production countries but it also differs a lot as you see between regions and between commodities so some commodities like palm oil and soybeans are primarily traded while others like beef cattle are primarily consumed domestically. If you also include for all final demand in the whole world with this extra base model the amount of deforestation that is driven by external demand or international demand is raised to about 40 percent so when you get all the indirect links and so on. Next slide please so what you see here are some key results from this follow-up project in terms of deforestation carbon emissions due to Swedish consumptions time series from 2005 to 2018 so you see that for the last year of our analysis in 2018 Swedish consumption led to carbon emissions of about three million tons due to tropical deforestation so that just to give a comparison that's in the same magnitude as our methane emissions from domestic agriculture so it's a significant emission source from a Swedish perspective. You see it's divided here by food consumption and non-food consumption so if we just look at the food consumption it's about two million tons of carbon oxide per year translating to about a tenth of the carbon footprint of an average Swedish diet that is due to deforestation. Also here you see a decreasing trend especially for the food consumption part but it's sort of contrasting on the one hand you see decreases for for most commodities partly due to reduction in deforestation in production countries also to changes in Swedish consumption on the other hand for the two main commodities that cause deforestation linked to Swedish consumption polymer production in Indonesia and beef production in Brazil you actually see an increasing trend in the last 10 years or so and you can go to the next slide. So what about the potential for actually including this this data and official statistics for Sweden for example so clearly I would say the this data meets one of these criteria for for inclusion in a statistic which is relevance. There is an increasing policy focus on demand side environmental policy as I've already been mentioned and I think we'll come back to that and this data has already been used for example in the legislative proposal from the EU commission that came last week on addressing deforestation where our data was used in in the impact assessment underlying that proposal. Next slide. On accuracy one thing a key limitation to keep in mind here is that the lack of especially explicit data on both production and trade in place that implies that this indicator should be interpreted as a measure of deforestation risk but that is no different I would say from other consumption based indicators where we seldom have sort of production to specific data on emissions or and trade and so on. We've cross-checked the results against more detailed studies for key commodities like soybeans, palm oil and so on and there's a robust underlying methodology here that's been peer reviewed so overall I think the results can be viewed as fulfilling the accuracy criteria as well. Thank you very much. I'll hand over now to Nils that will talk to the on the chemicals gap analysis. Hello, yes very nice to be here. So yes I will present the results of what we've done on chemicals, we'll go to the next slide to introduce the topic. So the main starting point to explain the significance of chemicals is that every day in society we use 100,000 chemicals 100,000 different kinds of chemicals. These chemicals are included in very complex supply chains of course and it's known that these chemicals were released to the environment can have adverse effects on the environment and on human health and of course policy makers if you look at the policy landscape they're very well aware of this so I've taken up a few key areas on different levels. So internationally we have gender 2030 goals that specifically lift questions of chemicals in the EU. I can sum up with the chemical strategy for sustainability the directive on sustainable use of pesticides to give examples and of course in Sweden as a focus according to the environmental quality objective non-toxic environment. So in light of that we go to the next slide in the prince project starting in the first prince project a few years ago work was focused on trying to find macro macroscopic indicators that could really express to policy how progress is going with respect to these chemicals and on the basis of that first project three areas specifically were identified as being valuable areas for the production of time series and those are the areas that we worked further on in the prince continuation project this year. You see those on the slide there's use of pesticides use of hazardous chemical products and use of agricultural antibiotics and we've used sources of data which are freely available on the internet and which are produced and updated by a statistical office or equivalent in order to be able to produce these and those have allowed us to produce time series in each of these areas for the data and the first of those time series on the next slide. So this slide shows Sweden's consumption based use of agricultural antibiotics so it includes the agricultural antibiotics used in Swedish production and consumed in Sweden and also agricultural antibiotics used outside of Sweden for products imported into Sweden. So I've written the take home at the top you can see that there's a fairly strong decrease of about 50% between the start of the time series 2008 and 2019 and that's suddenly done in the context of active EU actions to reduce the amount of agricultural antibiotics in use. You can also see if you look at the it's the dark green bar which is third from the bottom that is the agricultural use in Swedish production that contributes to Swedish consumption. So another take home here is the fact that it's actually imported agricultural products that answer for most of the consumption based agricultural antibiotic use in Sweden. We go to the next slide I'll show you the time series that we produced for pesticide use. Here for pesticide use according to the time series there are some variation but by and large we really don't see any decrease between the start and the finish. If anything there's a slight trend towards a decrease but not very much. Again you can see Sweden in this figure is represented by the blue bar at the bottom it is the largest single contributor to the consumption based pesticide use in Sweden. At the same time it's imported production that contributes the majority. In the next slide I can show you the results that we have for hazardous chemical products and here you can see it's a little more variable time series but you can see between the start and the finish you can see a significant increase in the use of hazardous chemical products. Here Sweden is also the largest single producer country to contribute to the consumption based footprint. At the same time it is imported products by and large that dominate in the footprint as a whole. So I can go to the summary slide that I have now. So the main achievement of the work we've done in chemicals in prints too is that we've taken the work from prints one which did calculations for a single year and that Ellie showed and we showed not only methodologically it was possible to produce time series which are informative from a policy perspective and also thanks to that we could demonstrate these clear macroscopic trends that I've summarized for you here now. Amongst those macroscopic trends it's important to emphasize that consistently we see in the time series for these products that you see that it's imported products that dominate even in Sweden and from a consumption perspective and with that I'm happy to round out the round other conclusions on the chemical side of the work we've done in prints too. I'd like to remind everybody that's attending that you have the possibility of asking questions to ask experts right now and to do so you would go into the Q&A chat and then having done that one of us that is presenting will be able to pick up that question and we will aim to answer the questions just after I've finished the presentation on official statistics that I'm going into next. So we'll go to the next slide and change tax slightly. So one of the other purposes and aims of the work we've done in prints too is to investigate the possibility to use the gap analyses that we've done to be able to go in and produce official statistics. So in the next slide I address what the criteria are for official statistics. Now I emphasize that it's a multi-dimensional equality assessment that we do and in each of these bubbles I show one of the five legally required dimensions of quality that we work from. Now I will start by saying about criteria of a time-in-lesson punctuality. You need to produce statistics, a statistic of high quality when it comes out a short period of time after the last reference period for the statistic that you're producing. So as soon as possible if you're producing a yearly statistic produce it as soon as possible after the final year of the date that you're producing. Accessibility and clarity, this is something which we answer for at Statistics Sweden as an official producer of official statistics. We have the website we present in the database, we present in a number of formats etc. So that's something that is covered by Statistics Sweden as a base. In terms of coherence and comparability up in the left-hand corner one of the key criteria there is that we're producing data that is that can for example be compared with other countries and also that we're producing time series where we're aware of any potential differences that may occur in the reporting throughout the time series so that we can convey those to users. Now specific the areas that we've looked at in particular when we've looked at official statistics in the project is specifically for the relevance of the statistic and the accuracy. Now relevance talks to the fact that there is a need amongst users for the data that we're producing. So in this particular context when we're talking about guiding policies that we mentioned earlier today so showing that there are policies for which the data that we're producing and statistics can follow up on. And in terms of accuracy the question is really simply how close the data may be to a potential true value for what you're trying to express. And in the next slide I show largely how we've assessed these specific dimensions of relevance and of accuracy and as you can see with the green ticks we ultimately judge that in each of these areas we have shown that there is a potential to produce data. Of course as I said and as the previous experts presenting on land use change fisheries and biodiversity we have gone into the data in depth and in detail and we know it very well and we also so we can give a picture of where the data is. We do understand where the data is coming from and on the basis of that we can affirm that the accuracy is as Chris said earlier fit for purpose to answer the relevance and the need of policy makers. We go to the next slide where I talk more about the degree of maturity in terms of the production. Now we are Statistics Sweden. I mentioned earlier that Statistics Sweden we were working with the chemical side of things. We lived to pesticide agriculture and antibiotics and hazardous chemical products and on that basis of course in the column for institutional mandate for input I'm talking about the fact that we're getting data from for example food and agricultural organization. We're getting data from us internally and we're getting data from the European medical agency and we know those data are being updated regularly. We also have the process in place thanks to what we've done in the gap analysis here in print. That's why you see green ticks for pesticide agriculture and antibiotics and hazardous chemical products. On the side of biodiversity fisheries and land exchange we are certain that we have high-quality data. At the same time we're not giving it the same green ticks rather on the green red and orange scale. We think that there's a slightly different status for those data and of course it has been our experts at that. So we don't have the prices in place at Statistics Sweden to be able to work with it. Okay then I have one more slide. So to sum up the work we've done on chemicals we've shown that the indicators we've developed are fit for purpose. That is to say they answer a policy need and they are able to do so. In terms of practical application we've been looking at the institutional mandate for the input data. We've been looking at the processes that we have already in place at Statistics Sweden. And finally this final point which is something that I haven't mentioned maybe because it's something which suffuses all of the work that we do at Statistics Sweden. It's key that in our statistics production we have the resources to dedicate the expert time that is required to be able to produce the time series according to the quality dimensions that I've mentioned. On which point we have a few minutes before we go through to the panel discussion to address some questions. I have a few questions here. Firstly I have a question from Lynn and I believe that question is about biodiversity. So if Chris you have the opportunity to answer Lynn is wondering in what way do you want to work more with biodiversity? Thank you I'm not sure if you can hear me or not because my internet is very bad at the moment but this might be a question that is also directed for the for Annika I guess but I think the fundamental reason for looking at biodiversity in addition to some of the other metrics that are used in consumption-based accounting is the fact that we know that biodiversity is very spatially heterogeneous. So the distribution of biodiversity is very different in different parts of the world and the impacts on biodiversity are very different in different parts of the world and those aren't usually accounted for fully adequately with some of the other measures. So it's really an understanding of how these things are impacting more specifically on biodiversity as opposed to say forest loss and that we really want to grapple with I think going forward. I'm not sure if you heard that sorry. It sounded great to me and sorry much Chris. I have another question I have a question which maybe is something to do with Statistics Sweden work so the question is how does Statistics Sweden deal with the fact that XI base so far been solely EU project-based i.e. the future updates are unknown. If the consumption footprint is now part of the official statistics how will it be continued into the future? Yes indeed XI base has is a product of research. We have very good relations and contact with with the producers of XI base someone who is not presenting right now but has been actively part of the ongoing prince project is Richard Wood formerly a professor at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology and one of the key figures in the product of the XI base data. We have very good contact with them and for the past five years or so anybody that goes in to the publicly available data on Xenodo on XI base will be aware that that is that has been updated regularly and it does and they do supply documentation and they are always available to provide comment on the methods they use the methods are comprehensively documented and to which extent we have made the judgment from Statistics Sweden in light of the very high relevance of the statistics that XI base produces official statistics. We have certainly noticed in the process of the work that we've done that we need to include XI base in a slightly different way to the way that we include the source data that comes internally at Statistics Sweden that is to say data that comes from the national accounts about production and the economy and the exchanges that go on between the different industries and final demand so we are we do have processes in place there to address the specific differences that arise when using source like XI base compared to a source like those that we get internally. Just checking the time I had a very one question from an anonymous anonymous attendee is international aviation the maritime transport included in the results that presented. I'm not quite sure about the context of that question but to say broadly about the prince model I would suggest I would say I will say that yes maritime transport that arises as part of the supply chain for Swedish consumption and aviation that arises as part of the supply chain Swedish consumption are included in consumption based data that we produce on which note we're almost at the hour and I would take the opportunity to hand over to the professor of environmental strategic analysis at KTH and chair for the panel discussion Jöran Finbyen welcome to the virtual floor Jöran and thank you very much to our expert presenters. Thank you great presentations and I'm very much looking forward to this panel discussion where we have Jorge Laguna-Seles head of the 10-year framework program secretariat at the United Nations Environment. If all now see the advisor at the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency and Emma Noriam chair of the Swedish Parliamentary Committee on the Environmental Goals and I'll ask some some questions to the panel members but there are also some chances to continue asking the questions in the Q&A. I would like to start asking Jorge Laguna-Seles can you tell a little bit about the framework program and how indicators like the ones we are discussing here today fit into that work. Thank you very much Gora and at the outset let me send to all of you warm greetings from Paris and this expression that we would like very much to be there with you all physically together. Of course I will present what the One Planet Network is and what the One Planet Network does and how can One Planet Network support the work that you are doing but before I do so let me just say two very brief messages. One it is extremely relevant that we are having this conversation left by Sweden especially in this very important milestone year that we are preparing for the Stockholm Plus 50 conference. It is absolutely critical that we take all available opportunities to heighten the political visibility of sustainable consumption and production. Tools like the ones that we are discussing today such as prints and others that I will be sharing with you in the course of this panel are extremely important to make sure that we help all countries. We leave no one behind in ensuring that we can move from not being able to track our actual environmental footprint in the spirit of solidarity and this is what it's so important about prints is that the spirit of solidarity the spirit of common stewardship of this planet it is absolutely embedded and we would like to make that known in Stockholm Plus 50 but to bring the relevant players. Let's have a discussion on how we can do that by creating an open space where these and other tools can be addressed presented and highlighted so we stand ready to support that goal. What the One Planet Network is it is very simple we are the only universally adopted agreement that addresses sustainable consumption and production. We are as a matter of fact a framework that is designed to facilitate implementation of an integrated and coordinated approach to sustainability which balances the social, the economic, the environmental. We are the glue that is increasingly connected connecting the climate agendas, the biodiversity agendas and the pollution agendas by promoting a systems approach within the United Nations system and we are helping UNEP our host and the institution that provides the secretariat mainstream international action to address the triple planetary crisis on pollution, loss of biodiversity and also climate change. We are a network that is comprised not only of 193 member states and their official representatives more than 140 national focal points over 5000 institutions and individuals that are supporting a global movement towards sustainable consumption and production and we also host and provide support to six incredibly important programs that are supporting from a very concrete perspective the agenda of SCP and if you don't know them let me start with sustainable lifestyles for those that are attendees that perhaps don't know this is co-led by the Stockholm Environment Institute and it is one of these programs which is helping us advance the SCP agenda. The other programs are about sustainable construction and buildings, the consumer information which I will have the opportunity to talk a little bit more today. We also talk about lifestyles and we have a program on lifestyles, a program on tourism as well and a very important program on food systems and a lot of the findings that I heard today will be very key and we can take it to our program on sustainable food systems. So in a nutshell that is what we are a global movement that supports action at the highest political level but also connected with countries to move towards sustainable consumption and production by promoting sustainable economic policies. Thank you very much, very interesting to hear. Let me now turn to Eva Alnar, senior advisor at the Swedish environmental protection agency. You have been working with the sustainable consumption for quite some time now at the Swedish EPA. How would you describe the development so far and where are we now so to speak? Thank you Jöran and also nice to meet you all this beautiful morning in Stockholm and this very historical day with the new Swedish female prime minister. Thank you Hodge for the introduction of the One Planet Network and the Swedish EPA is the national focal point for One Planet Network in Sweden and we are also very eager to continue to work with the PRINCE program to use all the results and findings that you have shown and I recall when I listened to you that almost 10 years ago when we made a pre-study for the PRINCE program we expected that the biodiversity indicator would take the longest time to develop. I don't know if that's true but I was very encouraged with all the interesting results you showed related to biodiversity loss today. Yes I would like to take you 10 years back in time and that was the first time when the Swedish EPA declared officially that the sustained and already high and increasing consumption volumes is the major obstacle for reaching the environmental objectives and especially the generation goal which as you know in says that we should solve all the environmental problems within Sweden without increasing negative impact outside the Swedish borders. So that was very, I think that was a milestone for the, at that time the conclusion was underpinned by a pilot study made by the Swedish statistics Sweden in close collaboration with KTH and other researchers and also the Swedish EPA and that was the first step I would say for us to try to track the consumption based emissions greenhouse gas emissions over time. And after that I think that the government was responding with a governmental assignment asking the Swedish EPA to develop a policy instrument to reduce the environmental impact from Swedish consumption which we did and also in 2015 the sustainable consumption patterns was appointed a focus area in the in-depth evaluation of the Swedish environmental goal and that was the first time we discussed the need for a national consumption goal I would say. And another milestone and then of course the PRINCE program was kicked up, kicked off in 2015 and the first time we used the PRINCE results officially at the Swedish EPA was in 2019 when the greenhouse, official then greenhouse gas indicator was used in the in-evolution of the climate goal. So that was a little bit about history so where are we now as you know the government is now investigating the introduction of national consumption goals we will hear more about that in short and in 2023 the Swedish environmental agency will present the second in-depth evaluation of the generation goal. It has only been done once before and that was in 2012 10 years ago so our ambition in that work is to use the results from the PRINCE program all the findings and indicators as far as possible to be able to tell something about how is Sweden doing now in this regard. So finally I would like to say that I think we are only in the very very beginning of addressing this huge challenge we face related to consumption and production both in Sweden and globally. Thank you very much Eva it's interesting to hear this historic perspective and it takes time to drive these agendas that you have been pushing now for quite some time. I would now like to turn to Amano Rian, chair of the Swedish parliamentary committee on the environmental goals. You have been given the task to develop a strategy for for consumption environment for minimizing environmental impacts from consumption. How is the work going and what will you deliver? Yes what will we deliver that's still in a discussion but as you said I'm the chair of this committee and it's a cross-party committee and so all all parties in the Swedish parliament are represented and we have the task from the government to come up with a strategy for consumption based to lower the consumption based emissions or environmental inputs and we will prepare for or suggest goals for the consumption based emissions and also for aviation, shipping and public procurement and we got this assignment a year ago and we will be held it over to the government in February in the end of February so it's huge task and many different parts in this and the reason why you put it in this cross-party board is to make sure that you talk outside the everyday politics you can say and have a chance to have a learning process together over the parties and also try to make sure that you come up with the best solution and the one that is as many as possible can agree upon and hopefully all Swedish parties can agree upon the things that we are we will hand over to the government but it's it's tricky and we need all this data input that we have heard about today and even more and it's also always a question of do we have enough data to to make action or do we need something more and okay now we know this for for this section but what does it mean for employment or for jobs and and for the economy and so on so we wave in waited all the different policy areas with our work so it's it's a large work but it's also very fun and as Eva said here it's I think more will come this is the first early steps it's still what I know we are the first one in the world doing this so we have no one to look into because we can take small parts from different countries and and learn but I don't think anyone I've taken this big scope on this one thank you we're really looking forward to to that report in in February um but you you mentioned that yeah do we need something more are there other indicators than the ones we have discussed here that would be of relevance for for your work I mean everything is always welcome then when you got one model you say that okay but we what happens if we squeeze on this part or what happened if we include this so I think when you have statistics and models you are never ready but you have to make sure that you also can put them together and also make sure that it's overlooking other policy areas as I said we when you now we talk about the emission about the carbon footprint and we can just stop with things that's that's the easiest way but what happened with the society and that's when policy making is taking part how do we make this transition just and as our friend here from USA leave no one behind it's not only between countries it's also within a country and that's what we have to make sure that we will have a a nice society in in the forefront here and that we will make this a good and just transition to less carbon emissions thank you very much um follow a question to to Jorge do you know of other countries where there are similar policy discussions like like the ones you've just heard of that is ongoing Sweden are there other countries that have consumption-based goals or are discussing consumption-based goals absolutely each and every country with its own development path is working one way or the other to ensure that consumption is looked at from certain angles there are four areas here that I would like to to share that are common to the global debate that we are seeing and in which this experience can be extremely helpful I think that first and foremost we have the issue of absorption there is no lack of sophisticated tools out in the market that are being developed by think tanks that are being developed by research institutions what we are seeing as we are working with 193 countries and especially those that have already a sustainable consumption and production strategy it is the lack of capacities to absorb those tools so we are working with countries as diverse as uh Granada Barbados Senegal Mauritius in helping them first and foremost have an institutional framework but also have the ability to use some of the tools that are out there and that is why it's important to have baselines and common tools and methodologies one good example on this and this is my second point it's about data and comparability of data it is the hotspot analysis tool the scp hat tool this scp hat tool tracks an analysis information on environmental footprints for over 164 countries including sweden and although the data is not always up to date because some countries have a more granular way of measuring the trend does not lies and it does shows the global picture that countries need to do more so the second it is yes countries need to invest in data and in tools to monitor and to measure their progress and their transition to sustainable consumption and production and the swedish experience that we're hearing from Emma it is a debate that it's been heard in each and every country that has adopted a sustainable consumption and production strategy so far and whether this can be called circular economy green economy any label that we give it as long as it meets certain criteria and certain elements it is counted towards the achievement of SDG 12 however we are leaving behind and this is an important dimension over 80 countries or 90 that don't yet have an appropriate national framework to help them make these decisions and take these approaches the third one in one way or the other what we're hearing and it is really important to hear this national experience is the system approach when we work with countries what we are trying it's to move from the vision on sectors towards systems because then it allows to connect the impacts at their source but also to look at the connection between climate biodiversity and pollution and today we hear it this is the debate that we're seeing and last but not least the countries that we are working with are looking into the role of consumers and how can we create good public policies that do not distort consumer choices so to answer your question yes in one stage or another all countries are looking into sustainable consumption and production yet the gap it's tremendous and there is a incredible need for countries like Sweden that are taking this absolutely honest leadership through the approach of a generational goal to track their consumption and their footprint not only nationally but globally to see how can this experience be replicated and help countries advance in their own development path so yes this debate it's absolutely universal from a parliamentary perspective or from a decision maker perspective but what it's lacking in many cases is the capacity to absorb these tools and to make adequate decisions on the basis of data thank you very much can I can I follow up with the is the focus now I guess a part of the focus is whether you should have consumption based climate targets and how that should be framed will you also suggest policies to to implement these targets and to support these targets yeah we have a our job is to come up with a strategy so of course it's the implementation everything and it's also I mean how how would we achieve the goals so we will also have suggestions in different areas from building transportation food and consumption and so on so it we will try to cover all the areas that we can and see that this is what we agreed upon it we can do this and we will hopefully reach the goals that we will set up so we are looking in all the different areas and hopefully the strategy will be a path how to to make sure that we will achieve our goals thank you can I can I ask Eva you mentioned that the prince results can be used in the follow-up of the environmental quality objectives so far the discussion has been mostly on the climate related targets but can you say a few more words about how it can be used for other environmental quality objectives as well it's it's really hard for me to foresee at the moment because we just kicked off the the evaluation so but it's I don't think there are any restrictions I mean all the useful findings should be applied in in the follow-up in depth evaluation and the follow-up as you have presented today if I think about other things where the prince results can be used. Hortje was mentioning this SCP hotspot analysis tool and I think the prince results and especially the data that has been developed during the years should be it's possible to use and and to put in national data in the tool today already so that is definitely something we need to do in order to find out if if the if the figures for Sweden are accurate according to our own studies so that would be a very interesting next step and another important thing I want to raise is really this collaboration and the need for a strong evidence base in the further development of this consumption goals and the consumption strategies and I really think that the prince project and the close collaboration between statistics Sweden the Swedish EPA and the researchers in the field has been really necessary in order to take those steps and it becomes even more evident in the global at the global level in the work with a valley chain approach which is a new methodology developed the incorporation with the integrated resource panel and the one planet network where it's really really important to look further into science in in order to be able to develop these kind of policy approaches so yeah and I also think the the indicators you have developed could be further used within international indicator systems such as the 10 YFP framework or indicator framework so we should also look into that in the future so that's some thoughts I had and as also as was mentioned we need really to keep in mind that there are really different needs all over the world we are talking a lot of overconsumption but there is also a huge underconsumption globally so it's all the the basis is needed but how it is will be used is of course very dependent on the different countries and stakeholders thank you very much and we need to finish this panel now thank you very much to all three of you for for your valuable contributions personally I worked in both in prince one and prince two so I really appreciate hearing how the results can be used in different contexts so thank you all and I will now hand over to Osa Pashon again deputy director at Stockholm Environment Institute for some closing remarks thank you and really a big thank you to all the researchers presenting their findings incredibly interesting and for me as a non-expert it was particularly interesting to see and hear about all this progress on non-climate issues and footprints biodiversity air pollution chemicals because of course we know that these are problems that are killing many people today it's not just about that sort of future threat so very exciting and and also of course a very warm thank you to the panelists you raised a number of important issues there because the the data and the research is of course only the first step we heard about the need to move forward globally in solidarity of course these are huge issues for many countries that are dependent on on exports and sustainable development is really about combining the environmental social and economic pillars so a very important message we also heard that it takes time to to develop policy based on this data and we heard that it's also important to consider issues of justice and fairness among consumers here in sweden to to to really make more significant change i one take home message for me was that actually some trends are moving in the right direction this was encouraging but most likely not fast enough but also some more specific issues which i think are very interesting for us at the CI and with our partners to take forward in future research maybe a prince three or other projects first learning more about these hotspots i was surprised to hear that EU is indeed a hotspot for for sweden for example the water footprint in Spain is a is an issue for swedish consumption i think this sort of challenges that image we have that these hotspots are in china or in brazil indonesia elsewhere and this can really also have some political significance i think in the future another very important issue the absorption capacity raised by Jorge how do we make use of all this data and how can we as researchers based in sweden also support colleagues in other countries to to try to bridge the science policy gap in this field finally it was encouraging to see some more recent data because i know there has been issues around the the time lag when constructing these footprints and that we have to work with all data which is of course also a problem where we need to speed up the sustainability transition we have ahead of us but overall i think lots of food food for thought and also lots of wisdom on how to move forward in bridging the science policy gap when it comes to sustainable consumption which we indeed hope we will be discussing much more at stock on plus 50 next year thank you and i hand over to Nils Brown i believe yeah thank you very much also and thank you very much to our panelists and to the experts in the prince team and thank you to Joram for chairing the panel discussion i agree that it's been a really interesting group of people that have come together here and i think i had a look at the list of attendees last night and i think what i noticed is we have attendees from public public authorities here in sweden of course from the swiss environmental protection agency but also from public authorities far beyond this specific environmental field going into procurement going into matters of consumer issues and i think that really underlines the significance of the data that we're producing with a consumption perspective because it appeals to a broad range of stakeholders not only do we have national policy makers but we have policy makers at local levels in the swiss municipalities as well so that's fantastic and on top of that it's great to see that we've got attendees from public institutions and authorities in europe and around the world and in particular from statistical offices and it's great that you could attend to be able to keep abreast of the work that we've been we've been doing here i think the project team has also underlined a really significant value and the fact that we at Statistics Sweden in producing official statistics have had the opportunity to rely on and make use of the incredible knowledge that we get from our partners at Stockholm Environment Institute, Chalmers Institute, Technology, KTH Institute Technology and also the Norwegian University of Science and Technology and with that as it says on the slide here we will be publishing a final report which will come out in the spring alongside that i'm very happy to see that we have a link to the new website which has been updated in the autumn where you can find more information and results about the work that we've been doing and alongside the Lord's the report will also be coming out with a film which will be summarizing in a format easily communicates on youtube to the results of the work that we've been produced so on that note very warm thanks to everybody and finally thanks to Stockholm Environment Institute and their team behind the scenes who have been valuable in helping the proceedings go as smoothly as they have today so Ian Caldwell, Banyara and Ibarri Landa thank you very much and finally thank you very much for listening if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to contact me or any other member of the prince team you can you have my email address there on the slide so do send me an email and if it is a question of one of our experts i can forward it on to them so thank you very much everybody goodbye