 somebody brought up like have you ever looked at the SBIR and one of the things that kind of hold people back when it comes to the SBIR is it looks like a daunting process if you're not used to it. So when you first originally look at it the only thing you look at is the dollar sign. So the dollar sign amount overall is normally in the one million uprange but what they don't explain to you is it's done in phases. So there's your initial phase which is your phase one and your phase one is basically your proof of concept. You basically go back, you validate your idea and you create a white paper and you would actually turn that in but that's not the one million dollar deal but that's what most people think they're like hey all right I'm gonna get started it's gonna be one million it's gonna be these when I ever made. It's really not that simple of a process. You would actually complete your phase one, apply and completing the phase one if they look at it and they accept it they say okay you know all right here's your phase two and then they give you the money to actually go out and build your prototype. Once the prototype is built and they always have qualification that you have to meet no matter what SBIR it is they'll have those qualifications upon meeting those qualifications then they'll come back and say hey you know what you've met all our qualifications now let's start building you up to the commercialize whatever product that you've brought to the DOD or whatever federal agency that you're doing this SBIR with. What ends up happening is most of the people who come forward and they pursue these SBIR opportunities they are not by nature business people they're normally very smart very smart scientists very smart engineers very smart doctors so they're subject matter experts in their field but when it comes to taking that technology and turning into a business they run into a lot of speed bumps or they just get still mated or stone wall