 So, in just one week, interview 2001 in Hanova starts and live at the exhibition grounds, yes, we can meet physically live again and at the same time digitally on the platform. And with that countdown, welcome to the final interview preview talk for this special edition. We also invited special guests and industry leaders and CEOs from Autodesk, from Trimble and from Hexagon. And we are talking about the geospatial industry in transition. In fact, the geospatial industry is undergoing a process of major change. The rapid speed of digitalization is setting the pace. The keywords here are digital twins and building information modeling. Artificial intelligence and robotics will support many tasks in the future. The goal of a sustainable climate neutral economy is an additional motor and motivation for fundamental reorientation. So, sustainability is also becoming a determining factor for the industry. 40% of global carbon dioxide emissions are associated with the construction industry. In Germany, for example, the construction sector is responsible for half of all waste. So, the recycling of materials is absolutely below average. And the geospatial industry can and wants to change this. Together with my guests today, there is a huge potential for energy and materials savings. And plenty of optimization opportunities in terms of efficiency, cost savings and sustainability. So, I am really very pleased to present our three guests now to you. We have Roland Zelles, Senior Vice President, Global Territory Sales from Autodesk. Very welcome. Hi. And you can also see here on the stage, on the screen, Thomas Haring, President, Hexagon Geosystems and CEO Leica Geosystems part of Hexagon. Hello, Thomas Haring. Hello, zusammen. Hello. Hello, good afternoon, good morning, wherever you are. Because good morning is to Roland, to Ronald Pizio, Ron Pizio, Senior Vice President, Geospatial at Trimble. Hello. Good evening, good afternoon. And for those of us here in North America, good morning. Thanks for joining us. So, learn and discover how these leaders are positioning their companies on the mega topics of digitalization and sustainability and what role artificial intelligence and robotics play in their companies. Roland, Thomas, Ron, I am glad that you have time to share your experience right now with all of us. We are really excited. So, let's get started. And we said we start with Roland Zelles and Autodesk. So, just let us start. Where are you at the moment? I think you are in Munich. Yes, I am in South of Munich and I am very happy to meet you all. Perfect. And I saw on LinkedIn that you are excited about finally getting back to traveling. Are you looking forward to Intergeo? Unfortunately not. I have a different appointment. Oh, okay, okay. But perfect that you are right here with us. And I think you start your presentation now and it opens with a short impulse. And it's about transformation of the construction industry. So, the stage is yours. Thank you very much. And I am really pleased to be here with you. You know, I am kind of a veteran. I think I was at the old Geodetentag. I was embarrassed a little earlier with 1985. So, I really come from this industry. Love it. And I am really excited to be on this talk today. I want to give you a little bit of the story, I think, and what we do and why we do things. I think we currently 7.5 billion people on Earth of which 3.5 billion live in cities. And when you follow a lot of the conversation, I think this is kind of a challenge because we have a growing population to what's 10 billion. You know, there's different forecasts by 2050 and about 7 billion will be in cities. So, a lot of people who live in cities, which requires us if you want to just keep their housing available for everybody to have 13,000 buildings per day and have to build infrastructure which would actually every year would last 30, would be 30 times around the Earth on streets and railways. So, quite massive. And I think this is really causing some issues on top of what's going on. That's one of the reasons I think you saw the kind of the announcement of building and investing infrastructure in the US but also across Europe. I think we will have these big budgets coming up. And I think for me, there's two mega themes. One is the decarbonization of the industry and the second one is digitization. Actually, they are one theme and I believe they belong together. You cannot do decarbonization without digitization and here we play a key role. This was also supported by a recent study from Bitcoin. When you just look at the goals of Germany, which has to go from 805 megatons of carbon to 543 and what role the various industries can play. And as Ms. Wenzel mentioned earlier, in Germany, if you look to the balance, it's 14% of the carbon footprint is buildings. The construction industry is more than double of that and globally it's around 40%. So, there's a lot we can do. What we do on our offering, I think one of the key fundamentals, one is the openness and the second one is around standard. The openness is to make sure that we provide access to anybody and every company to the tools and also don't create kind of prisoners in the file formats, etc. Make sure that everybody can use that. On top of that, I think supporting all global standards, whether it's OGC, Building Smart or Open Design Alliance. And the reason we do that, I think if you want to move towards a digital twin and I think a digital twin is a digital replica of a built asset that has a dynamic digital reflection of the physical itself and if you want to do that, we have to be able and allow to become a data consumer from any source or also be a data feeder to any other system. And that's one way to allow and to manage a digital handover, have smarter operations and greater insight. And that's one big way to actually contribute to the reduction of the carbon. And the other one definitely is around automation. Just the post-COVID, I think how you rearrange the offices with generative design and automation, I think there will be a lot of requirements to do that well. At the same time, there's not enough experts and employees available. So we need to provide automation and we believe that automation will be a big area to contribute to that. Second one is also to allow and combine automation with machine learning. And this is especially something we doing which is a tool called Space Maker where you can do automated optimization and planning of apartments in buildings and then also using a lot of the intelligence to optimize whether it's availability of daylight and sunlight, the glassing, optimizing all of the infrastructure. In a way that you optimize the carbon footprint and you minimize the impact you have to kind of the natural surrounding. And with several of our customers, we have built something which is called like a carbon impact calculator which will allow real-time already to simulate the carbon footprint and helping directly to operate. Of course, we cannot do everything alone. So we work with partners and I think he announced a partnership with Israel, a big one. And the main driver and the motivation is really to combine the science of where was the main anything idea. While Autodesk delivers a building information modeling process for structures. Combined, it's a groundbreaking approach. Knowing architects, city planners, builders and civil engineers to collaborate more effectively than ever leading to better designs and cost savings. It's streamlines planning as multiple scenarios are easily visualized to drive better decision. In design, GIS content is quickly imported from Esri's ArcGIS platform, the most authoritative system of work. So the real idea is to combine the GIS and the serving industry with everything we do on the BIM site and then providing the best of both worlds. That's why we do the partnership and that's why I'm motivated to work in this industry and have you. Thank you. Thank you very much for sharing this presentation with us and the twins and the convergence GIS and BIM and also Autodesk's strong commitment in sustainability. That's great. And that's perfect because last week I talked about tracking climate change with due data also with Jürgen Schumacher from Esri and you just mentioned your partnership with Esri. So why did you do that and what is the benefit for your customers? I think it's relatively obvious. I think whatever infrastructure or map you build, something will be done on it. You build an infrastructure on it, a railway, you have waters, lakes, and you have buildings. Or the other way around for us it's on any building, any infrastructure has to build on something which is land. So I think a lot of customers were actually struggling and that's why I mentioned there's the openness of the file formats, there's all the standards we support, but at the same time we're also working with one specific partner and guarantee with joint products which we have available to guarantee seamless appearance of data and also a seamless workflow. So this is something we stand for and that's why we work very close together to allow customers to make this very smooth. Do you have some examples? I remember there was the Digital City of Paris where you also worked on together. Yeah, I think the rebuild of the Notre Dame is a big thing. In Paris, of course, I think we're working a lot because I think they want to make sure it's ready and can be visited when the Olympics come back. I think we did the infrastructure planning for the Flaps. I think we have some of the experience here in Germany, unfortunately, making sure we protect it and then some large customers like the German Rail or SBB or like one big project. I think if you drive on holidays for the German ones around Munich, the A99, which is the Autobahn around there with the Autobahn Direction, I think we worked there together and they did the planning of the extension of the highway together with us in this way. Yeah, that's really awesome. And you also brought the examples about saving a carbon dioxide and what exactly do you do as a company? You already mentioned some examples, but how do you support your customers to do that? We talked about in the introduction that the construction industry has such a huge ecological footprint, but how do you support your customers to do that? It's a big theme and it's actually for me personally and it's always good to start with yourself. So I think the house that I sit in here, I think it's definitely carbon negative because I have a roof, but one likes the batteries, so I think I hardly need any external energy. But I think the same thing is for Autodesk. I think where of course, and this is kind of the downside, sometimes you have to buy certificates or you have carbon neutral. I think it's important you do something yourself before you explain what others can do and should do. And then the big focus is construction industry. As you mentioned earlier, the 40%. So there's two areas. One is renovation retrofit of infrastructure and of course the new one. And I think where we work with governments a lot and try also to explain to have a BIM mandate, which for instance we have an infrastructure in Germany which says okay, but at a certain time you have to fulfill a certain BIM level, BIM level one, two or three. Level three would be the reuse and run into operations use the data by what project volume. So if you do that for new buildings, I think you can move to a carbon neutrality for new buildings. You still have the impact of delivery, bringing the goods to the construction site, etc. But you can help to calculate that and reduce it. And the same is on renovation retrofit as I mentioned earlier where you can use artificial intelligence to measure what you do, what is your impact and then use that one to continuously improve the footprint itself. And the calculators I mentioned earlier which we use to constantly improve and make them available for the customers to show that they sign alternatives between what customers want and also what implications they have. And I think this is typically very important that you can see your own implications and also what you can do to improve it despite the technical possibilities. So thank you very much Roland Zellers and Autodesk for the moment right now. So this was just our first opening session of this InterGEO CEO talk. We will also hear the presentations and the statements of Hexagon and Triple right now. And if you have questions to Roland Zellers we will do the panel talk in about 10 or 20 minutes and you can ask your questions for example at Autodesk or at Roland Zellers in the chat right now and we will answer them later because right now we are directly moving to our second guest, Thomas Haring. How do you do? Hello. Hello. Perfect. I'm doing fine, I'm doing fine. That's great, that's great. We prepared also a short introduction, a presentation and we are really interested in Thomas Haring's presentation, President Hexagon Geosystems and CEO Leica Geosystems, part of Hexagon and his topic today is the sustainable journey towards digital realities and an autonomous future gets momentum. So we're excited, please start your presentation. Thanks a lot. Hello and a good day wherever you may be joining us from. I'm speaking out of our experience center in Herbrook from our innovation factory and it's always great to be here among so much history, present and future. I'm delighted and honored to present your highlights of our journey towards digital realities and an autonomous future as said before and I'm sure you will be convinced that the journey gets a lot of momentum. Let's start the journey from the beginning. I think many of you know that many of you have been part of that journey and many of you know that this year is an extraordinary year for us because we are celebrating 100 years of innovation at Herbrook, our powerful innovation factory here in the eastern part of Switzerland and with that we celebrate thousands of people all around the world who have been with us over the years. And if I have the correct information which most likely I have, then the first exhibition at the Deutsche Geodetag took place 100 years ago in Stuttgart and I'm sure and of course our development from Wild Herbrook to Leica Geosystems and thus part of Hexagon went hand in hand with increased relevance of the intergear over all these years. I've been joining the intergear only for 18 years but for me it became much more than a conference or exhibition. It's an annual highlight. It's great to meet the geospatial community of people interested in increasing the geospatial future this year in Hannover as well. This picture does not show our retro booth which we have prepared for Hannover, it's not but it's roughly 100 years ago and with that I would like to show you a short video about the impressive development and our journey that goes on and on. Since its inception Leica Geosystems has defined and continues to revolutionise measurement and positioning technologies. This remarkable history of pioneering solutions for a whole spectrum of industries has been launched 100 years ago in Switzerland by an experienced surveyor, a talented entrepreneur and a skilled engineer. It's their fledgling Swiss factory that has become the beginning of Leica Geosystems the place of never ceasing thirst for innovation. The legacy of Wild Herbrook has continued throughout the 20th century claiming many worlds firsts and it's still alive in our time now as part of Hexagon and its global vision for the autonomous future powered by data. Today even 100 years since founded Leica Geosystems continues to shape the world as the leader of surveying innovation. Leica Geosystems, when it has to be right. How should I summarise these 100 years? I think the best way to do it is innovation was important 100 years ago when Wild Herbrook was established and it's essential today and that's something we are living day by day. Learning from the past means for us winning the future we have the impressible urge to spread innovation and just technology to solve customer and social problems and are firmly anchored in our corporate culture with that kind of spirit. Capturing relevant data, ensuring the highest data quality and gaining the desired geospatial information has always been part of our DNA. Last year we proudly introduced pure surveying and much more as a theme for the virtual intergeo. This year we have put together another exciting programme which offers enough space for personal interaction with our experts either virtually or hopefully live in Hanover. Please do me a favour and let our experts and solutions inspire you. Our pure purpose is to support you in putting your data to work in all the different industries you are working in. We have countless great examples highly differentiated innovations on our journey. One example is Leica GS8 and I a GNSS rover with inclination and imaging technology. Many might remember the Forget to Bubble Challenge which we had back in the intergeo 2017 with the Leica GS8 and T the world's first GNSS with inclination and tilt technology at that time. By the way, the Leica GS8 and I is nominated for the Wichmann Award please vote for it and challenge our experts to talk about all the use cases you can do with this. But now let me talk about another important chapter of our journey which started back in 2017. In 2017 we announced the disruptive and design-driven Leica BRK360. Since then we have continued our disruption with the Leica BRK3D the Leica BRK247 and the Leica BRK2Go. The first mobile BRK product with Grand Slam technology. All these products have received countless awards from all over the world and I'm sure many of you have asked yourself what will be next. Hopefully you have seen our nice keynote which we have launched on September 7th and September 7th was an excellent day for us a significant day. We have shifted from technology to opportunity. The journey towards autonomous solutions and digital realities got an accelerator and a real boost because the new BRK2Fly and the new BRK Arc coupled with HXDR represent an unimaginable leap forward. Experience digital so we experience real autonomous reality capture within your grasp. Visit our booth and hold on for a join us digitally and look at the products the BRK2Fly or the BRK Arc and I'm sure you won't regret it talking to our experts about that. Sustainability is a huge topic was mentioned before. Let me briefly talk about that. It should take up much more space and I would be very happy to have discussions with you about that. We in Hexagon believe that our sustainability journey is determined both by the role of our products in the market as well as our own processes. Our solutions contribute to environmental and social sustainability by improving efficiency, quality and safety in a broad area of industries. But we did not talk so much about that. So that's why we have that slogan do good, help others do good, talk about it, let others talk about it. We firmly believe that's the only way that we can take our responsibility and harmonize planet, people and prosperity and accelerate sustainability developments. Our customer magazine Report Issue 89 which will be available at the Intergeo has a lot of content on why we are placing sustainability at the core of our business. A lot of customer success stories. Please enjoy the read. Beyond enabling other sustainable journeys we have heard that before we are also committed to lowering our impact on the environment and that of our supply chain and value chain. We are doing that constantly because driving a culture of sustainability within our company is going to be accelerated. To summarize join us in the journey towards autonomous solutions. There's plenty of more things which I have not shown you at HXDR, digital realities what we can do with airborne and geospatial data in hexagon content program, many other things. Let us support you in putting your data to work whatever needs you have and whatever problems you need to solve on a daily basis. Despite the challenges with the pandemic we have decided to participate at the Intergeo physically and digitally with a strong team. If you have the chance to come in person our roughly 100 colleagues will be very happy to serve you there. If you are not able to attend in person please connect with us on all the different channels. We believe in the future. We will aspire to live by example and challenge us on that. Enjoy the time with us. We are always saying coming together is only the beginning. Working together is progress, of course. But delivering performance together that's a real success. And we are really looking forward to many joint successes with all our customers from all around the world. So we would like to thank you for the trust in us and for the ones who have not been yet to Hanover please do me a favor. If you get offered a virtual garden trust me be careful with that. Thank you very much. We really look forward to meet you in Hanover showing you our innovation and all the different things and it would be really a pleasure to see you there and I'm happy of course to meet you all there but it's much more important that you meet our strong team which can answer all your questions maybe much better than I could do. Thanks a lot. Thank you very much. Thank you Thomas Harrowing and thank you for these insights and hexagons ideas and innovations also these two new innovations you have brought with you the BLK ARC and the BLK TO FLY perfect we could see them actually and also for taking us in the past within the last 100 years of your story your history. But let's talk about the autonomous systems you also mentioned and the digital realities which will complement our reality and processes and will become more and more autonomous and how exactly do you think will digital twins affect the world of engineers and surveyors? I think it will affect in the construction industry and similar industries as it has impacted in the manufacturing space or in the plant space where we have a lot of experience it starts with capturing the data accurately, processing them ensuring the quality that's what we are all very good at and then of course visualizing them sharing them, collaborating with them and keeping them alive and that's something which is in our DNA that we try to really then put the data to work how we call that because one thing is to have the data captured but it's more important to use the digital twin the digital realities or whatever we want to call it to really get insights out of that via artificial intelligence and with this data so for us it's about different platforms which we have in place like HXDR which you have seen as well in the presentation shortly which we are launching right now or many other things like our content program where you can have nice digital replicas of the world and based on that you can create your insights or we help you on creating that via our own solutions so a plenty of work to do for surveyors and engineers and many other disciplines yes there is and Thomas you also showed or also mentioned that you will be present with a large booth at Intergeo which will be also outside I already heard about it and yeah you already announced some word firsts that you will present at Intergeo and what actually the visitors see so these are the two things you brought with you what studio is that? I'm sure there is much more to see first of all I would not call it a large booth because compared to the past it's still not so impressive but of course we are all facing the challenges of the pandemic but we are there and I think what you can see is our people, you can talk to our people our experts, that's important you see the solutions which we have announced over the last couple of years you can see these two new friends here the BLK art and the BLK to fly you can see a new city map how you can collect much faster airborne data, you can see software solutions around HXDR and many other software solutions and you can see some of the evolution as well from the last 100 years because I'm sure I have emotions to some of the products from the past many of you have emotions to that as well and it's always good to sometimes reflect some years back and to see how technology has evolved and what we have done over all these years and that's something which you can see and much more because come to visit our booth and then you might be surprised what else you might see that's great and we are really looking forward to see you in Henova and even to everybody who cannot travel to Henova everything will be available via the digital platform via the hexagon platform but also at Intergeo's platform so thank you very much for the moment Thomas we will talk about artificial intelligence robotics and so on later we will also ask our audience for some questions so if you have questions to hexagon please ask them right now in the chat via at hexagon and we will answer them in about 10 minutes because right now it's time for Trimble and Ron Beasio he is Senior Vice President Geospatial welcome Ron thank you so much let me share my screen yes that would be perfect because you also prepared a presentation a short presentation to bring us into that topic right now and I guess it's about connecting the physical Earth to the digital world so we would like to learn more about this so please start right now Ron Beasio great just confirming you can see my presentation perfect great thanks first off I would like to thank the organizers of Intergeo I would really like to thank them for their perseverance over the past couple of years this has been difficult for all of us I can't imagine what it's like to be organizers of an event prestigious with such a long history as Intergeo but I actually think it's really interesting that this has actually given us an opportunity to move into a whole new dimension of hybrid events I was just looking at the participants that are on this session with us I noticed that our distribution partner from Minnesota and from Southern California are both in the participants list I pretty much guarantee I would have never met the two of them together in Hanover so it's nice for them to be here I'm really thrilled that this year we're going to be able to have our booth in Hanover and our team is excited to welcome everybody there and we're going to be able to participate with the global audience for geospatial via the hybrid event so again appreciate the perseverance of Intergeo and I think your format is great moving forward so obviously COVID's been a difficult situation for everybody what's been interesting is we've had one of our strongest years ever in the history of Trimble in the middle of this and I've been asked repeatedly why is the industry so strong and I think what it is is that our customers our surveying and engineering customers are serving some of the key industries that are driving the global economy you think about road transportation rail transportation utilities residential construction these are all industries that are under incredible pressure through COVID and the need the very obvious need that we're seeing on a daily basis to improve sustainability and address climate change our what's driving our customers to be so busy and what I think is great about that is the amazing technology that is showcased every year at Intergeo from Hexagon from Autodesk from Esri from Trimble all of us the technology we're showcasing are helping our surveying and engineering customers so if I look here I love images of our customers my 16 year old son asked me why I spent so much time on LinkedIn and I just love seeing what our customers are doing with the technology and if you look across road construction we're making it safer to work on the side of the road by introducing things like inertial technology and tilt that can make it easier mobile mapping that keeps people out of the right of way safety is a key component of all the technology that where we and the other companies at Intergeo are launching and I think this is so so important on the rail side it's interesting you know we have dedicated track surveying and scanning systems that are making it more precise for railways across Europe and North America Asia to measure their track and to improve it so that people can commute to work when they get back to the offices and so we can move goods across countries in a more efficient manner I think these things are all really important that image in the upper right I love I'm not sure that's a recommended configuration but our mobile mapping system has been installed on a shunting locomotive and you can see that mobile mapping is done with any platform possible monitoring down in the lower left so important we've seen so much work underground with tunneling using the scanning total stations so again I think it's really important that all of the technology that we are developing and we showcase year after year Intergeo is being used to help our surveying and engineering customers do their jobs and I think this is so important and I applaud my colleagues that are on the call and all of our employees for focusing on that so then the question is what comes next what are the technology trends we're excited about that was sort of the theme of this session and I want to talk about that back in I remember when we were in Hamburg we launched the world's first scanning total station the SX-10 we've really focused on bringing scanning into the traditional surveying and engineering workflow and it's been incredibly well received around the globe so the question is what comes after that what are we going to be focusing on now and there's really four key areas we're going to continue that theme of sensor fusion because there is so much benefit to our surveying and engineering customers when we put IMU and GNSS together and allow them to work in new areas under denser and denser canopy to be more productive and keep them out of the right of way when we put a scanner and a total station together in a single instrument and make it so the workflow is easier to incorporate I think those things are so important mass data collection both the gentleman from Autodesk actually kind of talked about how we're going to be gathering so much more data our mobile mapping systems are actually the nice thing is they're going in two different directions they're getting easier to use and we're really focused on ease of use of our systems but at the same time we're driving the cost down which makes it so that our mobile mapping systems are more approachable for more customers around the globe we're seeing far more use of our mobile mapping systems in Asia, Middle East Latin America as the price points come down and the ease of use goes up I think that's something all of us in the industry are really focused on and I think that's important data integration surveying and engineering customers are often not the end users of the data the data needs to flow into Autodesk needs to flow into Bentley needs to flow into Esri so we as an industry are really focused on improving that workflow the cloud is going to make it so make that better the autonomous feature extraction is going to improve that so we can more quickly move from point clouds imagery to answers that customers demand to help solve their problems for the global industries that I talked about and finally survey automation making it so that all of our systems are easier to use our monitoring systems for example making it so that they can be remotely monitored remotely used and improving that automation across the board so again, Intugeo is all about technology and customers and future trends and bringing them all together so the great news for our customers and for all of us is our industry is incredibly robust there's so much innovation going on at all the companies that you're going to be seeing in Intugeo and I think that's really important and finally I think the gentleman from Modernist did such a nice job of talking about sustainability and I think it's important that we all look at what we're doing for on that I don't want to do our efforts around sustainability from the Trimble Foundation Justice I would encourage you to go out and take a look at our website on the Trimble Foundation you can see the areas that we're focusing on around natural disaster relief and this is goes from how we operate our company to where we make donations to how we develop our system so again, I encourage you to go take a look at that and finally what I would like to do is I would like to thank all of our customers our partners and our employees for being incredibly resilient through this difficult past two years and as we as we move into Hanover and we look forward to seeing you in Hall 20 and as well as in our session so thank you very much Thank you very much Ron Beasio for this presentation thank you very much for your kind words because as an organizer it was really a tough year for all of us to keep that industry dialogue that still going so that we can meet this year again and you just mentioned it, we're talking about the geospatial industry in transition and where do you think the geospatial industry will face the most transition within the next three to five years I think the industry is facing some similar changes to what we face every day I would have worked years ago with software for doing my email that's now all out on the cloud we're seeing the same trend in our industry as well I think the cloud is going to change things and I think the acceleration is growing dramatically again I mentioned somebody begins a surveying job, they don't intend for it to stay in Trimble Technology, it needs to go out to Autodesk it needs to go out to Bentley Esri the cloud is going to make facilitate that and accelerate that it's going to allow for better data fidelity to downstream users it's going to allow better visibility to allow better speed now with that comes a lot of responsibility for companies like ours and all of our other companies we have cybersecurity we have to worry about we have GDPR we have to worry about so these are all things that we have to be incredibly vigilant about and we as a company are really focused on those things so how can you help customers to stay in front of these changes that they are really well informed about the transition and how it's going on one of the things I always remark as I walk around the multiple halls of intergeo every year is we throw a lot of technology at our customers and I think it's really really important that we always focus on the tasks that they're trying to do and how our technology benefits the surveying engineering community if we stay focused on what they need to do and how they need to operate how we keep them safer how we make the data more accurate how we ensure that they reliably bring the data home and how they're interoperable throughout the workflow I think if we do all those things we'll really improve our customers their lives and their work and allow them to focus on driving the global economy and improving sustainability thanks a lot Ron so we have some more questions to all of you and we would like to open up our panel talk now and use the time and your expertise to go deeper into the discussion and maybe our chat partner our editor Monika Rech can also share her screen right now with us hello Monika hello from Cologne for all of you this is Monika she's our editor and she also prepared this talk and she will also be in charge right now of the chat so if you have questions I see Bruno Krensky is also saying hello and has something to say so Monika give us an overview of what's going on in the chat yeah there's George Alhalla B he says augmented reality is great for visuals so it's a statement so I think the question is what are you doing with augmented reality do you integrate it in your tools in your products maybe to all of you we start with A I can start if you want I can go I think it's also to the earlier point Ron made I think there's a lot of technology available and I think the key is also to not get overwhelmed with augmented reality it's just another piece of technology we throw at people is to think about your business process and which are the most critical ones and try to digitize them I think that's probably the easiest way also to capture and finding the right balance between technology and you know buzzwords etc so I think for us I think it's quite keen to integrate virtual reality, augmented reality and this kind of bread and butter business because I think one thing we do as a company a lot of people don't know but I think a lot of the Hollywood studios actually all use our tools for these virtual effects you see probably one of the most famous firms I am personally proud we did is like Avatar so I think we do a lot of this kind of mix between reality and virtual we have a hard time to figure that out so we use it for all the 3D visualizations so a basic thing is like having an architect to provide actually to the client a virtual insight on the augmented reality is like having the real product combined with the virtual improvements and I think this is just helping but as I think it's a buzzword people jump on I really recommend everybody in the audience think about less the buzzwords, more like where do you have a direct commercial or regulation benefit and do that part first and then add all the other nice things any other statements or not augmented reality maybe if I could add a concrete use case we see for augmented reality and that's linked to a technology we have a company joined us recently, Immersal is basically asset performance management if you really capture your assets with reality capture and you want to make predictive maintenance you can go with a smartphone and have the information directly at location so all these kind of things like indoor mapping, indoor location, indoor navigation is something which is coming because that's a huge trend and that's something we can't do with GNSS insight as we all know so how do we do with that, how do we ensure that and that's where technology comes together with the domain expertise as mentioned from the colleagues as well and finally I think I'll just add Trimble's been focused on augmented reality through our relationship with Microsoft and integrating HoloLens into our industry and help is almost kind of that next generation of when it's no longer just kind of a cool thing on the side it becomes integrated into the workflows and our field software and other things so that people actually have more situational awareness of the information around them my surveying I'll actually be able to see the underground assets beneath me through a virtual reality augmented reality solution so again I think there is a problem with the connection Ron you were just interrupted at the end but I think we will go on, I don't know Monica, should we go on with the next question or should we switch over to the artificial intelligence part? There is one other question from Lisa Higgins a question to the panel to all of you if you as business leaders could ask governments one thing regarding how we can embrace tech advancements what would it be so one question how we could embrace tech advancements to the governments Okay I go first again I would give every kid when they join school a tablet and move the education system digital to make sure the next generation and that's the future is completely tech savvy This is especially for Germany a big theme with the federated system and I think a lot of slow development in this area So I think we have to start with the youngest Sure I see continue with the alphabetic order maybe then I'm next Yes, thank you Thomas So clearly education is something important and then I think for us as an industry it would be nice if regulations would be there where they help people and that we can overcome some of these things which maybe stop us in implementing the technologies which are really good for solving customer solutions customer problems and I think that's something where sometimes it's maybe faster we have a lot of innovation as we said how can we apply it maybe faster with of course taking care of compliance and many other topics which are of key importance to all of us was not one sentence sorry for that Ron Hopefully you can hear me now The subatlantic lines are working again So yeah just expanding on what Roland said I think the government could really just help us make geospatial technology cool for the next generation The Dutch Cadastra years ago loaded their Cadastra into a children's video game and it was just really incredible that kids were able to walk in and do design work inside the application and I think that's just a great way to get the next generation of geospatial technologies into being via Minecraft something that we as parents all struggle with but it's great to see that that tool can be used to help them get the kids into our technology and into our industry Can I add something? Yeah, sure Because I think Thomas triggered a thought on me and I think I'm interested in what my esteemed colleagues think I was last week in Berlin there was an economic forum and I think it's quite interesting when you talk to the politicians on this side I think politics is the rule maker and as an industry we are the rule taker but there is an issue with regulation I think they think a lot about what needs to be done and I think they're responsible and ideally I like them to think why and get either a political alignment or a society alignment and let the industry actually develop the innovation and how we solve these problems In a lot of cases regulation gets in the way because they think about the what and a lot on how because they kind of try to dictate the solution and why it gets completely forgotten and I think this is just a mental shift I think on doing that I think would help to be much more open to technology and innovation and also allow companies to not be able to slow down on unnecessary battles What do the other things then I would like to continue with our topic of artificial intelligence if this is okay for you because I was wondering so when we are looking at our industry at the geospatial industry surveying engineers in this regard so what does artificial intelligence integrating autonomous systems robotic systems what does this mean integrating this in the fields of work and which fields of work will use this new technology this AI or robotic the most in your point of view and I would like to start maybe with Trimble and Ron Yeah so I think artificial intelligence is an incredibly exciting area I was recently meeting with some people from the nature conservancy one of the largest organizations helping helping the earth and improving sustainability and they were talking about how they were using geospatial and artificial intelligence to help take large amounts of data about coral reef health and then condense it down to an assessment and a management plan to help with that and I think artificial intelligence has a great role in taking all this incredible data we're connecting and condensing it down to something that people can actually help to to monitor and manage the assets around the world important areas like coral reefs palm oil plantations or forests and other areas that need that management Thomas Herring what's the role of artificial intelligence and which fields of work will use the AI the most Clearly following the lines of Ron that geospatial data are then really taken like I said captured from LiDAR imaging sensors and you can look at vegetation you can do simulations for potential or whatever and do simulations on that flat fire or whatever you think about that's one but maybe concrete use cases would be in construction as well I'm not sure whether you know we are market leader in construction insights meaning that this web technology in the US we can drive this artificial intelligence automated information about activity on the construction site so we get additional information which would have been not able without this technology we can get safety information whether somebody wears a helmet or not directly from the system by imaging technology so these are additional information which have not been there which provide additional insights and provide additional benefits in terms of productivity safety and then of course sustainability as well and there is much more to come much more concrete use cases which we are working with our customers on that's really fantastic to see that what artificial intelligence can do I'm always surprised and astonished thank you Roland Selles to be honest I think I'm struggling with the word artificial intelligence because I question the intelligence in the machine this maybe you saw in my presentation I was using the word machine learning a lot and I think that's really when you step back what do we want we don't want the intelligence of the computer I think what we want is insight to drive actually better insights and automation and I think you know there's multiple good applications you can do like in the construction progress I think Thomas used an example I think where we track automatically the construction site for safety regulations water like the typical problems in helping actually an early morning system for the project manager to make sure you know no accidents happen I think but as you have to train the system the system is only as good as it's trained and we have to constantly make sure you have human input to make sure the system gets better and gets let's continuous learning so I think it's it's a lot of benefit because it can work with a huge amount of data human cannot compute and consume at the same time and then you have to distill it down to insights but I think this is it needs human intelligence to make the machine learning output intelligent thank you Monica do you have another question from the chat or anything else you prepared in advance of this talk you'd like to ask right now there are there are several hellos from Brazil to all of you and they say that they are using drones in their work which makes also a big part at the intergeal so I don't know if drones is also a good topic for you to tell anything about it what is going on in your companies yeah we already see one there next to Thomas Herring yeah I am not allowed to let it fly inside the building here sorry for that so that maybe for us it's not a drone it's not a UAV it's a flying sensor so it's a flying relative capture sensor which really captures autonomously the relative capture where the mission planning is done automatically and where you really once you have captured all the information you can stream that point cloud and that imaging data then into whatever ecosystem you're using and whatever software suit you need so it's not a UAV it's not a UAV workflow we have many others as well it's really complimenting our reality capture our scanning technology which we have first we went mobile with our world's first BLK to go then we had now the flying sensor and of course with the BLK arc the first real autonomous reality capture device for a robot with our partnership with Boston Dynamics for example and that's something which we see really driving these kind of things and for us as that flying is important these kind of things with all the regulations but it's much more important that the whole workflow works end-to-end towards HXDR and I'm hopeful that I can come to Brazil I love to be there it's on my list as many countries let's hope that soon we can meet and we can discuss whether we can use such devices underground in mines or an open pit mines or whatever application to have we should look at together with our teams down there how can we solve your problems or not if the technology is not ready let's find that out I just saw that Lisa Higgins just questions another I cannot read it do you see the whole question yeah just curious how are each of your panelists our personal level embracing sustainability yeah the question of sustainability statements how much do you embrace that clearly not enough but I have a lot of people around me which remind me quite often to do that and then I do it and try to do it but surely it starts as we said before with us it starts with me it's much more I could do and I will do and I'm trying to do but I'm always willing to take the feedback from what I can do differently and that's the same in our company that we have this kind of culture that we really take the input from all the employees from all the different level and make sustainability as part of the regular decision making process and not an additional process so it's part of our DNA just to add to that I'm actually really proud of us as an industry because I think we do so much for sustainability I think we're almost kind of one of the best kept secrets in all that we can do and I think our companies are getting better about telling the story as well as improving our solutions to help with sustainability and help our customers in their role for that and then at a personal level I think every day we make decisions should I get on that airplane should I commute to the office those are all kind of things I think we're all making on a personal level so I think it's everything from the career choices many of us made to get into this great industry to you know am I going to get on that airplane or will I get on a zoom call so I think I mentioned also earlier I'm quite passionate sometimes I sound like a Friday for future kid I'm really passionate about that and also what we can do with everybody itself and I think if I can encourage people on the audience you can calculate your own carbon footprint relatively simple I think there's enough tools on the web and you get an idea of what you what you can do or want to do to actually reduce your footprint and I think there are certain things you cannot avoid and I think you have to be just realistic of what's possible and I think I guess the three of us I think we also contribute badly in some area with the flights I think like having a global role and being around the world I think this is definitely at least for me personally while everything is great until I start to enter my flights and I think that's something I think where we learned in the pandemic that actually not every flight is needed and I think just making sure that you do more than just compensating I think you can compensate every flight but that's not the only solution I think there's less is more problem in that case Just one last question to the three of you because the team of interview 2021 is inspiration for a smarter world that means the expo and the conference and so we're just talking about those inspirations like sustainability like machine learning and what do you think what what do you think what inspiration for a smarter world can you provide or want to bring as a message to interview and your customers and the audience at this year's interview maybe I'll start since I'll go reverse order and I'll end off I just want to thank our customers for their incredible role in it and ask them to come to the booth and tell us what we can do to help them because they're doing really great work out there I'm always impressed and amazed at what everyone's doing and I look forward to and our team look forward to seeing them and finding out what we can do to help them Thomas what's your message for inspiration for a smarter world continue to innovate for a sustainable future by using our collective intelligence in our company in the whole industry having dialogues working together with the peers the other market players on solutions and sharing ideas working towards that and then really trying to push the technology pair it with domain expertise as we do in so many industries and then I'm sure we've become all of us much smarter what we all want to achieve for me I think that actually decarbonization and digitization belong to each other and I think as I mentioned earlier I was in Berlin last week I think there's a lot it was nice with the colleagues to talk because I think we're not here as competitors or enemies or anything I think we try to move the industry forward together and there's a lot of collective knowledge I think where we can influence to actually be in a better world thank you very much I guess our time is up and Monika is there anything you'd like to mention there is one question but very precise about a suitable product for landslide monitoring I don't know if there is a short answer where we short answer radar technology we have the best radar technology total station technology and if you combine that you have a total monitoring solution for installations in Brazil so contact our team there or talk to me and you will move to Brazil as you already said I'm always welcome there you will travel there thank you so thank you is there anybody's raising his or her hand I don't know thank you very much thank you for your insight thank you for organizing it and the motivation and the gratidies of your companies and please I hope to see you all next week in Hanova or digitally via the platform and this was the Intergeo see you talk and see you next week thank you goodbye