 The celebrations continue for West Indies cricket following their shock victory over Australia in the second and final test which ended at the Gabba in Brisbane on Sunday. There are not enough flow rates that can be given to Shamar Joseph who claimed 13 wickets in the series including 7 for 68 in the second test victory. He also scored 57 runs in the series at an average of 28.70. Now following Joseph's stunning debut series the conversation now shifts to his future and how to best manage his workload for the best interest of West Indies cricket. Joseph has already signaled his dedication to the maroon colors but one day after doing so signed for Darren Sammi's former Pakistan Super League franchise Peshwar Zalmi. The question is how should the 24 year old be managed going forward? Former West Indies fastballer turn commentator Ian Bishop believes the Ghana cricket board, the Ghana government and corporate Caribbean all have a role to play in managing Shamar going forward. Bishop on the social media platform X formerly known as Twitter posted this. Important for the board he said Ghana government and corporate bodies to find a way to allocate funds to compensate Shamar Joseph and one or two other fastballers to keep them in the Caribbean and control how much cricket they play. Their pace is everything don't allow burnout. Now Ian Bishop joins us now to discuss this story. Ian Raphael Bishop great to have you on the Sportsmax zone sir and I'm sure you're still celebrating the success of this West Indies team here and the emergence of this terrific young fastballer. Hello Lance I'm filled with repetition because I'm hoping that you can hear me clearly you know how technology messes up some points in time but yeah it's been a phenomenon against witnessing not just Shamar but the commitment of the entire West Indies team on that tour and the joy that they have brought to so many people. Yeah well the issue we're talking about now is Shamar Joseph and how he should be managed. We just presented your ex publication there on your recommendations about what route should be taken to ensure that this young fastballer doesn't suffer from burnout. I know your career Bish was stalled by a back injury which many feel many feel prevented you from you know achieving even further heights in the game. Was the memory of that or is the memory of that a part of why you're feeling so close to this story. That's very kind of you Lance I'll let you down softly and say no it had nothing to do with me and everything to do with the modern landscape of the game Shamar Joseph but I want to clear up or I want to stress that my social media posting was not only about Shamar Joseph I said a couple of fastballers including Alzari Joseph and James Seales are primary objectives for me because Cricket West Indies cannot afford to pay or remunerate Shamar Joseph let's take that individual case compared to what he can get out there playing in T20 leagues I understand that if you understand where he came from you will not begrudge him going there to make as much money as possible but what I've seen Lance is a number of fastballers around the world who are playing all formats and then still going to play in the leagues because they have to secure a financial future and I've seen the pace drop in several of what we call the premier fastballers in the world because of so much activity across formats and I believe that in fastballing yes quality is important skill but your pace allied with your skill is very important and what the Australians do is that they protect Mitch Maash a lot of them to go and play elsewhere I remember having a discussion with the iconic Wesley Winfield Hall some time ago Ian and he did suggest that fastballing as a sport as as you know is is effected is one of the most unnatural things in all of sport in the way that a fastballer has to twist his body and and and go through the motion of delivering delivering balls at you know one hundred and forty case per hour and I'm pretty certain that West Hall would agree with the point that you're making because of what fastballing really is and how indreprone you can be if you're not careful in in in how you execute and the workload you give yourself I'm sure you can speak on that as a former fastballer yourself yeah when my heavenly father I we always joke that when God made us he didn't have fastballing in mind it's right so it's the very you're right it's very strenuous it's a very unnatural act but more than the injuries yes injury prevention is part of my decision but particularly as we're speaking about Shamar it about is about him being able to retain his pace because he's got great skill people are talking about his pace but look at the length that Shamar has consistently bowl from the first game in Adelaide top of off is something that we've talked about and he is displayed that from his first ball in test cricket which nicked off Steve Smith so he's got the skill but what you want him to do and that's Ari Joseph and to a lesser extent Jaden Seals is to be able to blend that skill of swinging the ball and seeming the ball with the pace that they have to unsettle batters and if you are playing high volume cricket across the world that piece is going to drop you're going to drop it either deliberately or it is going to come through wear and tear and we have a great opportunity lands are great the number of people that have messaged me to say that two days ago they were in tears grown men and women and not just West Indians but Australians Englishmen people from all corners of the world Asia that they cried watching West Indies and watching Shamar Joseph put a team on his shoulders with one leg 12 overs on the truck and each over was faster than the other one with excellent control we cannot allow that to go by the way side you're a man who is really respected around the cricket fields and just in the cricket circles right you also luckily got the opportunity to interact with Shamar Joseph during these test series he's somebody that has just announced himself on the scene and of course everybody's excited about him based on your interactions with him do you think that he is of the personality and he's one of the players that would be open for protection and yes I heard him in the press conference saying he will always be available for test cricket but you know better than everybody once these players get a taste of the franchise money and how quick it happens it's easy to of course be misleading or it's easy to want that sort of money and recognition based on your interaction what do you think will it be difficult to protect him I'll preface my answer by saying I'm not here to claim ownership of Shamar Joseph Shamar's family back in Barakara his small community those in New Amsterdam and those in Ghana's coaches guys like Mario who he's been friends with from childhood those are some of the people around Griffith and Lea and Johnson who are gonna deserve him through and allowing him to express himself right let's get that clear I'm not here to take ownership but I've known Shamar before all of this that we saw in Australia and I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna talk about it that's for Shamar to talk about if he chooses to do so but I've known Shamar before that when people didn't see the glory and they didn't know the story and we talk about the possibility of Shamar going to earn a living as though it's a bad thing it's not a bad thing Shamar has come from very very humble beginnings like Kevin Sinclair like Romario Shepherd like Rockman Powell and my heart is filled with joy when I see these guys have the opportunity to go and secure their financial future because we can talk about West Indies colours which is great to be loyal because that's the platform you started on but at the end of the day Shamar has two little kids he has a partner in Trish and they need to secure their home they need to secure future schooling for those little ones so and we see what's going on in England and England have a lot more resources and wealth than West Indies do right Australia and India and England are talking about giving players multi-year central contracts and their central contracts are so much bigger than ours but they are very aware that people will come now and offer these players huge sums of money and so we also in the Caribbean and that was the central part of my tweet forgive me for prolonging it we need to offer our players some sort of remuneration whether it's multi-year contracts and that is not falling on West Indies Cricket alone Cricket West Indies Johnny Grave gave a wonderful interview a few days ago about the challenges I am saying his Excellency President Irfan Ali is a lover of Cricket and he's done so much for Cricket as Corporate Ghana Corporate West Indies Corporate Trinidad have to protect Shamar Al-Zari Jain Seals and no people will say there are a few others those are the three guys that I've identified multi-year contracts and only allow them to go let's say to play in a league if we feel they need to supplement that a little bit in Shamar's case and Shade's case need to learn more about bowling and then come back to us this time of leaving it to other people outside West Indies Cricket Canada for them yeah and Bish I'm quoting you here the pace is everything don't allow burnout from your experience can you just give us give us some insight into where maybe you allowed yourself to burn out and if things were done differently back in your days we would have seen an even better Bish which I don't know if it's possible but let's just think about it no I mean I don't want to make this about me this is my time came and went I chose to go to play chronic cricket I had some imperfections in my bowling technique and look I have no regrets my time is gone my focus right now is in what I put out on social media let us attach mentors they have correctly Ambrose we have Courtney Waltz you have Kima Roach you have guys you can attach two Shamar two Jaden Seals that will because there are going to be some potholes in the road ahead of these young men this journey will not be smooth and when they reach those bumps in the road who will be there to guide to encourage and to nurture them through to fulfill their to reach their full potential I didn't reach my full potential that's on me I don't want to see the same thing happen to these guys do not leave it to check yeah Bish you make an excellent point and you speak about the multi-year contracts of course we had the MOU signing in this studio just last week with cricket West Indies and the West Indies Players Association and as part of that memorandum of understanding is a clause for multi-year contracts so clearly both cricket West Indies and the West Indies Players Association realize that this is where the game is going and this is what needs to happen to protect many of our players I want to get a better understanding from you though in terms of how you see your recommendation going who takes the lead is it cricket West Indies is it the guy in a government if we're talking specifically in the case of Ashamara hold Ashamara Joseph it is if it is another player then we would talk about another local board or another government but who do you see or who do you think should take the lead on this I would assume I would say and I don't operate at that level but from where I said cricket West Indies would be the ones taking the lead in this scenario but it's time for you know our leaders and heads of the various territories discuss a lot they're good people very very good people I am sure but now is a time and let us strike while the iron is hot 27 years it took us from 97 when myself and Karl Hooper and Brian Lara by the way this win I have never seen Karl Hooper and Brian Lara so excited and we've been through some battles together I've never seen two gentlemen who are the epitome of cool so excited and emotionally moved by this victory I just want to get that out of the way so that's what it means it's time for leaders and again I'll say for example his Excellency President of the Republic People's Corporate Republic of Ghana loves cricket he loves those cricketers he helps them a lot this is another time where they need to contribute the corporate entities around the Caribbean need to put their hand up because you see what this game means the Caribbean people were reminded once again like no other time that we need to partner with cricket West Indies and get these young men to reach epitome of their potential and that's a cross-formance that's not just test cricket I love test cricket yeah but I also understand test cricket is not sacrosanct there's a generation that were born after 1995 most of them only know T20 cricket as the epitome so let's not sideline them and think T20 cricket is not cricket I disagree with but we're talking test cricket and its resurgence yeah very much the case we've been discussing a lot about franchise cricket and how it could potentially impact someone like a Shamar Joseph of course news coming through today that he has withdrawn from the ILT20 tournament which he had signed for late last year and no he will not be involved in that because of the toe injury but I want to discuss about his West Indies future and his future outside of test cricket and in colored clothing would you Ian Bishop recommend Shamar Joseph for limited overs cricket both the 50 over and the T20 format definitely I don't I don't even need to deliver that at some point he's going to play white ball cricket for the West Indies just his sheer pace his control and he will learn about the different skills required I don't know how Shamar Joseph was not selected for a CPLT and I've known Shamar before the CPL took place I really don't know so that's another thing I was counting a wrong certain teams in the Caribbean needs to be better there's a young when I first saw Shamar bowling there was a young lad bowling alongside him called Silas Tyndall he is also from the beast he cannot get into a guy on a team but I know that watching Silas there's talent but he's a porky he comes from humble backgrounds but who is dragging the net to put Silas on a fast bowling program for example I'm just calling that name there are others around the region right are we serious about maximizing talent um Mariah asked me a question and I forgot to answer it Shamar is the most humble hardworking youth that you could ever come across and his batting in that first test match Mariah yeah his bravery in coming out and charging the job of diesel wood and Pat Cummins after he was struck on the helmet tells you something about his character he is afraid of no one and he will back down from no one and so when that young man put the team on his shoulders and ran in on one leg and won the test match for the West Indies that is who Shamar is and those are the things that we have to protect but at Genel City that the young man that I call who is going to I called around one or two teams in the Caribbean and asked for that young kid to show his way to them I called the people running the academy those running the CCC to give try to give this young kid a break and there was always some roadblock for example he's a friend of Kevin Sinclair Kevin is trying his best to help him but you know what we won't help him until he reaches somewhere in the spotlight and then everybody will pile it on to try to help him we need to be better in the Caribbean until people reach a stage and become Silas Timnall we can't wait for people to become superstars and then jump on the bottom I'm not saying that for example that kid is going to play for West Indies but at least we need to find out whether he has a chance to play for example for Ghana hmm I mean Lance this these things get me a little emotional yeah right yeah again I thank Johnny Gray for putting what he put out there all right bitch we're going to leave it there but I just want to get a confirmation from you quickly before we go it is my understanding that Shamar Joseph's agent is an Australian woman can you confirm that and is that is is there any way that you know discussions with her would would would address some of the issues that we have I don't know her origin Lance I know of her I know of the company but that's again the agent has own scope that they look after and the best agents look after that financial business but also the players welfare so everything here has to be as our regent and working in collaboration between their agents and the board for the good of the individual first and then for West Indies cricket all right bitch great talking to you here getting some insight from you as someone not only close to the game because of your history of playing the game but as a top commentator at the moment and clearly um maintaining a close association with these players which is very important let us from the sportsmax zone congratulate you bitch on the fabulous job that you've been doing and we hope to talk again soon I think a bit of a delay here on on the conversation with it but it was worth it we'll be back with more on the zone after this yeah