 And yeah. Hopefully John will join us. So hi everyone, again, Becky Bash from Pioneer Valley Planning Commission. And this is a working group meeting of the agent dementia friendly community. Project for Amherst. And so today we're just mostly going to touch base on the status of the survey and the responses that we've been getting. Nicole's going to present a little bit of analysis on who has responded and how people got the survey. And then we're going to talk more about listening sessions or public forums, other ways to engage older adults in the community and people who care for them. And, yeah. And then if any outreach that we're going to do about those listening sessions. So, so far, Nicole did an analysis of the survey that responses that we got last week, but we've already gotten more. So we're at about 600 responses, which is really great. Right. So we're going to talk a little bit more about the response rate of people over 65. So that's a really great response rate. And we'll look, Nicole will present a little bit. More on the people that we are hearing from. I still don't see John on here. So I was going to check in with him because he was going to talk to you. I'll give John a call. Okay, great. So I guess, Nicole, you can go ahead and start. I think John seen the data that you have. But if you want to go ahead and present what you have so far, that'd be great. I'm going to share my screen. Can you see it? Yeah. Okay. So I looked at the survey engagement by race and ethnicity, and then by gender identity as well. I looked at the data this morning. And we were at 587 surveys. So over a hundred in the last week. And when I just looked now, we're at 616. So like another, like 30, so surveys have been entered since then on the English convenience. But for this data, I didn't include those from today. So we've had a lot of English. Only one Spanish survey has been submitted online. And we haven't had anyone that speaks Portuguese that shows that as their preferred language yet. So that's something to keep in mind. And then from the 2018 Massachusetts healthy aging community, the population of 60 plus was around 4,000. And the population of 65 plus was almost 3000. So I'm assuming that the numbers have grown a little bit in both categories, but that's a good sample size when we look at our survey data. So on the healthy aging profile, we have about 91.9% of our population is white. And based on our survey collection, we're at about 89%. And all of the other percentages for race and ethnicity are pretty similar. So I do believe we're like hitting those targets. I feel comfortable about those based on this data. And then even for Hispanics as Latino, we've hit 2.24%. We're in 2018, we're at 1.8. So I think it's shown some change in the community as well that we can look into more when we write the report. And then just looking at survey distribution by site. As you can see across the top out of the 15 options to get your survey, wider Caucasian residents got it from 14 of those sites. And then that number slowly drops when you look at different ethnicities. So, um, and then another thing that I've noticed is that Star Rose has yet to reach anyone. So I'm not sure if our surveys have gone out there or if the people there got them from somewhere else and chose not to indicate that as their place from receiving the survey. And then another thing that is noted is that only one person who identified as American Indian or Alaska native was reached by mail and no one who identified as native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander was reached by mail. I think John knows more about how the mailing was done, but I thought this was an interesting point. And then Craig's place, senior spirit, Amherst Survival Center, the League of Women's Voters of Amherst, Engage Amherst and the Racial Equity Task Force, Facebook site, and other groups that haven't reached any groups other than wider Caucasian residents. So that's something I think is interesting. And then, and then by gender, looking at the 2018 community profile, it's about 56% female, 43% male. And our current, our survey is about 30% male and 67% female. And then gender non-binary and prefer not to say come in a little under 1%. And we haven't, no one's identified as transgender intersex yet on our survey. So that's a perspective that we might be missing. And then this data is pretty interesting based on who has and hasn't gotten the survey based on gender. So the gender non-binary respondent was only reached to the Amherst newsletter, which has been one of our most popular sources from people to taking the survey. And since, unlike the race and ethnicity, SurveyMonkey can spot statistical significance because there's over 100, I believe, respondents in each group for male versus female. So you can see the darker colored squares are where it's statistically significant. So more males received it in the, more males received it in the male. Only males received it from Craig's place. There were no women or any other gender identity that got it there. And then it goes on. And what was interesting about this is when I look through some of the survey data, there was a lot of statistically significant differences between males versus females and their responses. So for example, more males rated Amherst as an excellent place to age compared to females. Significantly more females felt unsafe in the community compared to males. And then significantly more females were concerned with paying for utilities. And lastly, significantly more females live alone compared to males. So it was about 34% females lived alone and 20% of males. And then lastly, just on the mass healthy aging in 2019, they predicted about 30% of 65 plus do live alone. So I think that looking at this data, it's important to get more male outreach. I think just to balance it a little bit more. And that is all I have. Thanks. Yeah, the male female split is pretty typical. I think when we do these surveys, it's generally females are more likely to respond. And there's a lot in the other category. And we were just talking, I was just talking with Haley and worrying before the meeting. So I think that those may be people that the Amherst, the ambassadors or you call them Haley are calling people. And I think you said about 60 were contacted through that, through phone calls. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a big portion of our other group. A lot of items mentioned the ambassador. Or females from like town officials of some sort. They're not very specific others though. Okay. Does anyone have any questions on this? Maybe you could stop sharing. Yeah. Any questions or comments? I actually apologize. I thought I had sent out an email from Amherst neighbors again to go out at the end of last week. And it was sitting there and on my mailbox this morning. So anyway, I sent it and it will get it sent again in three days for everybody who doesn't open it. So. Okay. Anyway, I'm sure we will get a response. And I included the information of how many of us had responded and how many hadn't. Looks like Chad has raised his hand. Yeah. Two or three questions. Some probably been answered. I'm looking forward to the report. I'm wondering if the raw data will be available. The more. Folks that we have analyzed the data, the more. Information will get out of it. So that was one. Also. When does it actually close? I assume it's going to close before the in-person interviews. Those two, those, those are my two questions right now. So in-person interviews. Is that. Cause we hadn't planned those yet right now. The Amherst. The senior center ambassadors are calling people and going over the survey on over the phone. So I think that's sort of what we were thinking of in terms of interviews. Unless you think we should do more. Interviews. And then, yeah. We haven't set an end date yet. I was hoping John would be on because I think a lot of it was. You wanted to analyze the. The mailed data. For the housing. Information. And yes, the, the data we can. We can make it available to, to, if you, if you want to make it available to the public. So I think John was going to work with some students and maybe Mila. On some of that analysis, but we're happy to have any help. I'm doing that. And any suggestions too. If there's specific data that you want us to look at. We'd be happy to look at that. So yeah, I think. Yeah. I think that's a good question because we were talking about that. Yeah. Hailey. Could you speak to that? Yeah, we did about 400 letters. So only about a hundred people had returned their survey from the initial. Initial 500 mailing. So that went out last Wednesday. And, you know, we'll start to see hopefully some responses triple in from that. But I think John had said that they were already up to about 25, 25,000 letter of the first mailing. And really, they were already up to about 25,000 letter of the first mailing. From the mailing. Okay. Do you happen to know if those ones, the second mailing was included the link. The same length the first mailing did, or did you do that? I had a, I had a cover letter that did have the links on it, but it was just the English version of the survey that we mailed out. But it, and it had a links to the. Spanish and Portuguese. Okay. And Mila, did you have a question or comment? Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Just a comment. I was hoping to get some of the data from. John, but I haven't gotten any. The other comment. The other comment I want to make is that I'm not surprised at the response rate. The non English speaking. Potential respondents. Latinos and the Portuguese. I'm not surprised at the very low. Returns. They don't usually. I shouldn't say this as a researcher. I shouldn't say they don't. But based on experience. Male questionnaires. Is usually very low. And I wonder whether. We could do it. By in person. Is that too much to be. To reach them. Or would that be too much work? If we did some personal interviewing or even group interviewing, if they came to the senior center. Here's a suggestion. There are several. Pentecostal church churches in Amherst. I don't know. My thought was leave a handful. In the church, but. Also first interface with the pastor. Five minutes talk about. What is it about? Why it's important for his specific parishioners. And they're. And I'm willing to do that. If there's no one here with Spanish. I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to chip on the Spanish. I wanted to chip on the Spanish end. Is one. I was going to be helping Haley and I do some cold calling last week. Targeting some certain bilingual Spanish speakers or even just Spanish speakers. And she was out sick. Unfortunately. That was unexpected, but she's going to be back in this Wednesday. She does attend the Spanish mass at St. Bridges on Sunday. So I have a feeling she can probably just handpick five or six speakers and call them and maybe get four or five surveys completed. Or 10. Much larger number. I was thinking of a much more larger number, a whole congregation. I'm willing to take it to the two Korean churches. North. And East. Amherst. But that's, that's just some ideas. Right. Well, one is only here two hours a week. So I was trying to make it manageable for her. In one day. I don't know when we're stopping doing these interviews, but if she works on it for a few weeks, I was just wanting to give her manageable chunk once a week. Yeah, I think if someone could, um, you know, if Chad, do you speak Spanish or, or are you thinking you speak with the pastor and have them. No, I don't speak Spanish or Korean, but there's two Korean churches as well. I can do a lot more than a staff person because I'm a volunteer. Right. Right. There is a Spanish mass at 1230, I believe. Uh, the priest does not speak Spanish, but there's always a translator that translate all the prayers. Okay. We would say it in English and somebody who is the Spanish speaker and English speaker would tell us say the prayers in Spanish. Maybe we can talk to him. We can talk to him. This is the Paris priest. Sam Bridget that probably can, uh, can tell the, uh, during the Spanish mass at 1230 to cooperate with responding to the questionnaire. I can talk to make a point of talking to one on Wednesday, because I know she goes to that mass. Yeah. So she could probably link up with that minister. Yeah. She could probably link up with that minister. Yeah. She could probably link up with the Spanish surveys and if anyone needs help, she could possibly help out with those. Yeah. That would be great. Do you, how many copies do you have left? I'm wearing of the Spanish, you know. Or Bailey. Oh, I have at least 20 here on site. So I think we have, I think we should just talk about what, when we want to have the end date for the survey. Right. That makes sense. Yeah. Well, I want to give time if, if we want to have the end date for the survey. I would say, I would say in April, if you think that. And even if one, it doesn't get to the mass. I don't know if she's going to the mass regularly, but she knows a lot of people in that congregation. Yeah. Yeah. People. I'm sure we could reach out to people. Yeah. And it doesn't seem like we have. You know, a big sort of restriction on the end date. So, you know, I think we should turn to Becky if, if you, if it's like, we could go to the end of May or even into June. So I think it, I think it's really going to be based on ball, you know, Becky's timeline with PVPC, as well as if there's surveys that are coming back in hard copy, we need volunteers to help input it into the survey monkey. I think those are the two key pieces to, to consider. Yeah. Well, I liked Becky's idea of doing through the end of April. That gives us more time to do this special outreach, but without extending it too long, right? Cause I don't think we want to have it out in the air for. You know, too long. And I appreciate Chad, your offer to bring surveys to the Korean churches are only problem there is we don't have a Korean translator. I don't think unless you guys know of one. We don't have the surveys translated into Korean. So that's unfortunately a barrier. Is there, is there any money back here for a translator? Yeah, has a translator program and I do know someone over there who speaks Korean. Yeah. So we reached out to you mass translation services. And they, in their response, email response, they said that they can translate, you know, word documents, but they do not have the capacity to provide, you know, over the phone or in person translation services. The town does have money for translation services. So if, if, if there was a need for that, we could certainly look into that. Yeah, it's worth, I mean, it's probably going to be $500 or something to translate this survey into Korean. But if, you know, if you think that would, we would get responses. It's worthwhile. Or is it more worth it to pay the translator to just do the English survey with someone over the phone in Korean? Yeah, they won't do that. Okay. Yeah, I'm thinking there's an online program you can plug it into and it'll spit it out. Sometimes it's not accurate though. Well, with an eye check after, that's not $500. Yeah. It's worth, Chad, if you want to reach out to someone at the Korean churches and see if, you know, if, if there's interest there, you know, we can try to get those translated. It just might be, it might be a bit of a lift. Well, we've got the two black churches, the two Korean churches, and there's more than that in Spanish. Yeah, I could take the Korean and see if there's an online translator that can plug these, you know, digitize the survey and plug it into the online translator. And you can eyeball it and correct it after it's done. I'm not sure where the translator is in the cloud or where there's going to be money to print them out in the different language. So all this can be done, you know, offline after the meeting if there's somebody that you can plug them into. Yeah. If we had a sense of how many people at the Korean churches would take the survey, I think them to try the expense and then ensure that the information was accurate. I'm a little wary to plug it in online if we don't know how reliable the results are going to be because some translator services are definitely better than others. But if we could demonstrate that there was a need and a desire for this community to get it, then I think we could have a much more easy time to present that, you know, for funding. Yeah. Yeah, and another option would be to see if there's some kind of a focus group meeting with an interpreter at the Korean church. Yeah. Because that would be one way to, you know, hear from that community. That might be a good way to do it. Yeah. And think in the translated surveys might be a lot of work and not get many results. I can dig around. And I just don't know who to contact in this body with my results. You could contact me and just let me know what you find out from them. But yeah, in terms of doing the survey and survey monkey, it just gets messy because we don't speak Korean. And so it would mean, you know, having to translate the results and, you know, it just, yeah, I haven't done that before. I think that would probably be the best way to go. Okay. I'll get back to you. Okay. Great. I just have a question for Helen and the Spanish translating. I don't know. But I would certainly, if you can find a contact at the Korean church and make, make them aware of this initiative and see if they would be interested in doing some kind of a forum. I think that would probably be the best. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if we could send out a message to our volunteers and members to see who speaks Spanish. And who could possibly then go. To the services to be available to help people. If it was kind of, you know, if the pastor or the translator could make an announcement. Then the volunteers could be available to help people. Go through the paper piece of it. Would that be a helpful thing? Helen? I could be with in touch with, I could send out an email requesting Spanish speaking, people who speak Spanish. Helping. And then what I could do is I could talk to one tomorrow. Try to reach to one before her Wednesday. She comes once a morning, but I could try to reach her. Before Wednesday. And get a sense of what, because she goes at service. What would work? Yeah. And also, are there other services that she doesn't go to? Right. To cover that more completely. Or as completely as we can. Right. So I'll, I'll reach out to her and I'll let you know, Liz. Okay. Maybe I'll send out something. What I find out from her, what, what she suggests. Okay. That'd be great. I'll wait for you then. Cause she knows that whole setup. And she can probably tell me whether it would work or not. And the priest. I'm sure it's just a visiting priest. And also if there's other congregations in town. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Well, I'm thinking about other Spanish speaking congregations. I'm thinking about other Spanish speaking congregations. Yeah. Well, I'm thinking about other Spanish speaking congregations. Right. Not to exclude others, but it's, I'm just thinking we're going to have. We could have luck. Getting people who could help with that. Right. So I could ask really. That's a better, it's an easier language to access translators for. I could ask about other languages. So. Okay. Yeah. I mean, this is all, you know, doing, doing surveys and engagement and other languages as the whole, you know, it's, it's a whole challenge that's present in a lot of the communities in the area. And I think Amherst is doing a great job, you know, with the engage Amherst site, which. You know, translations aren't necessarily really good, but I think that's a great way to get people to know that. Anything we can do. I think it'll be great. I know Nicole said you had only one response to Spanish so far. Yeah. So, and I know I actually. Sent someone a link to the survey online. So if it's an online Spanish was probably the one I reached out to, but if we get five more or 10 more Spanish, that's better than one. So yeah. Also, maybe people, somebody at the, at the health center would be helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Which health center. You're talking about. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And I just wanted to add that, you know, this project has, has done a really wonderful, beautiful job of, of offering the surveys in multiple languages, both in print and online. So, you know, perhaps this might be one of the few times that a town project has sort of incorporated other languages and, you know, Jen moist and said it wonderfully that this is just the beginning of. Opening up the conversation to non. You know, we would hope that over time with other surveys, that the town is initiating that, you know, over the next, you know, Months, years will be opening the door and making these communities feel more welcome and engaged to communicate with the town. And to be feel more connected. So this is, you know, not just a. Aspiration of this project. This is a long-term goal of reaching out to non-English speakers. Yeah. Thanks. So moving on to the community engagement plan. Just share my screen here. So we were, we had talked about having the first forum on April 25th and having that one be online and then going forward, possibly having them in person. But the town manager still has not made a decision on when meetings can start. In person. And Haley was also had a concern about, you know, since transportation is such a big need for many older adults that it would be important to have something in person as well. So. We, we did have a really good turnout for the first meeting, the first online meeting with 40 people there. So I think we'll get good turnout regardless of what we do. But we may have to, in terms of advertising, you know, when these forums are, we may have to just do the April one and then wait. Or we can advertise the other ones and say, you know, we're not going to be able to do that. So it will either be online or in person. But I think, I think Haley was concerned that we should maybe wait until we can have meetings in person. Yeah, that's definitely my preference. I think we'll get the folks who aren't as proficient with technology. And certainly like I said, for something with transportation related, we don't have a really concrete transportation program here at the senior center. And generally, so. When I've done these sort of topic-based discussions, we usually invite experts from, you know, that, that area. So for the transportation, when we invite someone from PBTA, who does the bus service in town, someone from public works and planning, just in terms of, you know, what's being planned for walkability and, and bike and pedestrian sort of access, safe crosswalks and that kind of thing. So usually I present like what's, you know, what's the best practices for an age-friendly community. And then some of what we are hearing on the survey. And there, I'll tell you a lot of comments on being, feeling safe walking around town. So that's, that's coming out of the survey. And yeah, and then we, we just open it up for comments. And, and we'll probably just write down comments. Sometimes we couldn't, if we're in person, we can do dot voting on what people's priorities are. And we'll talk about how, how we could do that online. I just wanted to see any thoughts on this on the outreach plan. Can I just ask a clarifying question? Is the idea that we would go with the 25th online and everything after that would be in person and perhaps delayed or delaying the one on the 25th? I think we were thinking the 25th would be online. Okay. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to clarify. If you think that's enough time to get the word out. I mean, this engage Amish is really good about. You know, getting a lot of people, we can put it something in the paper. I don't know, Haley, for your newsletter, if that's enough time. No, well, the March and April edition has already gone out. So I can only advertise for May and beyond. Okay. So perhaps maybe we should just post start the first one in May. Yeah, that's the case. That would be helpful as a good starting off point. And then the farmer's market starts up in what mid to late April. Something like that. And then tabling. Yeah. And then maybe we could. Maybe there would be a better chance of knowing whether. That's a good start. I think that's a good start. I think that's a good start. I think things can be in person by the beginning of May. So perhaps the first one would be, I think it was like May 23rd, May 23rd. And what is your deadline for the senior spirit for. Advertising. So I'm trying to finish that up by the end of next week. I'm going to print and to fix another week to package them ready for distribution to the post office. Wow. It takes two weeks after we finalize. So in a lot of ways by, by the end of next week. You would, you would need to know if, if the May 23rd one would be in person or virtual. Is that what you're kind of saying? I can leave it open ended. You know, we can say to be determined in person or virtual. We can say to be determined in person or virtual. We can ask people to RSVP. For the event. So advertise. So is that newsletter going to be for May and June? Yes. Okay. So maybe we should advertise both of them and say, you know, May and June one. Yeah. At this point, the May one. We'll likely be online. Do you think. And then likely unless I can use the housing. We can see people with. In charge of public housing and see if we can use their community space. Then we could conceivably do that in person. Okay. Perhaps Haley, maybe you, you and I can meet with Mr. Backelman. By the end of next week. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Be good to be able to advertise at least those two. We could do the dates and the times and. Yeah. But yeah, if you can get that. Get a better idea of that, that would be helpful. What does everyone think about, I mean, we had talked about having at least one online. To accommodate people who, you know, for whom that's actually easier. Stop sharing this. I look like Rosemary. Rosemary. And I'm right in hearing that you're going to postpone the first one on April 25th since the senior spirit can't advertise that one. I think that would be a good idea. I do too. And I think that it would be wise to have. The transportation one in person. Okay. So do you want to just do housing on May 23rd? Yeah, we could do housing. Yeah. I was saying May 23rd. And in June. We thought it would be nice to have. What was the last session that was. Participation. Community safety. So we could just play around with the order. That. That would not matter on your end, Becky, or would it. No, I think housing and transportation. And health. We'll probably draw the most people. Social participation, not as much, but that one would be. We were talking about having that one in June after Juneteenth. Because it had inclusion. Chad, do you have a comment? Go ahead. Yeah, it was just, um, if you're having an online one for accommodation. It would be a combination of all five. And that would push up all your times. Unfortunately some. Will there be a. Formal presentation. A facilitator. A note taker. That sort of thing is this well structured or is it. Just. Gather what can be gathered. Yeah, I've done it a couple of different ways. If we do it online. I'm at the end person. In person. Yeah. So usually I do a presentation. And. I've done it a couple of different ways. If it's. You know, we, I can take notes and show them on the screen, just in the PowerPoint slide, or we can write it on big pads. As people talk and then people can vote. If it's a big group, we might want to split into a few smaller groups and have each one. You know, it generally what we ask is what are your main, you know, what do you think are the assets of. In the community and what are the challenges and then. You know, you know, you can vote on what you think are the most important. So just with dots, you know, we'll give people everyone three dots and they can go up and it's just sort of more interactive. But we can, you know, we're going to. Talk about logistics. Definitely before the meeting. And if, if anyone wants to lead a breakout group, they can do it. So. Yeah, it's just another way to get people to speak and to engage people in person. So, yeah, I guess if we did all. All of the topics together in an online forum. I'm not sure when to do. Are you thinking that would be in May. Start with online in May. I mean, somebody said it was the reason you're doing online is for accessibility. If you just one of those, such as transportation, buildings and outdoors, then they missed the others. Right. That's all. Yeah. Well, it sounds like we'll have another working group meeting. In April and hopefully there will be a more solidified plan. For the listening sessions and clarity from. From the town manager and the health director. About in person and virtual. And also we would need to speak to our IT direct department about, you know, in person meetings and projectors and all these little. Details will need to be fleshed out. Yeah, but it'll be good to, I guess, make a decision about if we're going to do transportation as the first one or do an online on in May. And online and I'm, I'm open to either. It might make sense to do just an online open, open forum in May. And then do transportation in June. I think we wanted to keep the social one in June for the June to the complement, but we could do transportation in July. You know, or August. Yeah. July might be a little nicer because, you know, we'll have a break from the UMass crowd, you know, so it should be a little quieter around here. And then unless we, I'd be in favor of doing the housing as the first one, unless we wanted to just do a catch all virtual at the beginning. Yeah. Or we could do the catch all at the end too. True. Yeah. Yeah, why don't we do housing first? And then so housing in May. We'll do June will be. The social participation and inclusion. And then July transportation. But we'll just advertise the first two for now, just the June and July. Or May and June, I guess. Okay. I think housing is a good choice for the first. Okay. Yeah, that's a big topic. Let's make sure that John Hornix available. For that. Right. Of all of them. And so that would be a May 23rd. Yes. And when does the housing, when are, when is he starting work on the housing production plan? Do you know in the fall? Okay. Okay. So we'll come friend with them. If he, if he can't do that one, then. Maybe we do the catch all and. Well, I think we should just adjust the date. Oh, right. Okay. Okay. That sounds good. Okay. So I guess that puts us at, we can do another working group meeting on April 25th. When we're going to do. The first. April 28. What was it April 25th? Yeah. Yeah. And hopefully by then we'll have. A more solidified plan. And then we'll be able to, we'll be able to. Like logistically of all the logistics. Or at least for the first few listening sessions, if not for the whole. Series. Yeah. And I guess we could talk a little bit about. He mentioned the farmer's market and some in-person events. And. What would be useful to have at those? And I guess we can also advertise for the forums, but anything else. I mean, we could have like a comments board. If people could add to. Let me just see if you had. Yeah, you said one to two working group members attend in-person community events to distribute surveys, promote listening sessions, and take general questions and answers. And so you have the farmer's market on Saturdays, the Juneteenth celebration on the 19th. And then the summer concert series. Hailey, do you have folks in mind or is anyone from this group interested in doing some of those in-person outreach events? I can definitely do some of the farmers markets. I know that I have a couple of people I can ask to volunteer. There are folks on the council who would be willing to help out. Okay. The fire department was interested. They had offered also Cress really wants to get involved with this project. So I think Earl will be down to do some farmers markets. Hailey. Great. So yeah, maybe we can, if you have a few volunteers, we can just talk about, you know, have a little sort of organizational meeting to talk about. What they should present and how to get some feedback during those events. Let me round up some people, then I can email you. Okay. Yeah, and that'll be really perfectly timed, particularly like if, if there was one like the end of April, the beginning of May, that would help promote the whole listening series in general, and would capture, you know, the tail end of the survey. You know, you could, you know, talk about other, you know, whatever other topics. But the, but the big goal would be the completion. Any last minute surveys and then getting people to the listening sessions. Yes, exactly. Yep. Yeah. And also, you know, we can gather, see if we can. Put up a poster or something gather comments. Or put a. A link for where people can add comments online. Yeah. Now this is great. I think, I think you guys are getting a lot of, a lot of input and engagement, which is great. And one of the challenges going forward and I imagine this is a challenge for the senior centers is getting people with other languages involved in activities and services and just making sure that it's out there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any other thoughts or comments? I mean, it's just a wild idea of tabling in front of stop and shop and big lie or, or that sort of thing. Yeah. If folks are interested in doing that. That's fine. I could hand out surveys. It's just a, it's a time commitment. So. Is that something you're interested in doing chat or. Well, so it depends on where it goes in the timeline with the rest of the project. Yeah. You know, I mean, I, if, if I knew I had. I would say. 20 surveys I take them by hand to the two black churches, 10 at each. I could have 30, you know, I don't know where in the, in this process it would go, but I could, I could sit at a. Card table in front of, you know, the chamber of commerce or whatever. Is that like the information center? I don't know if the survey itself. I don't know if that would be worthwhile. And when to do it in this whole process. I still don't know when the, when the tabulation is going to be closed. Yeah. No longer accept surveys. Well, we talked about end of April. I think most important is those, the Spanish churches. I think that would be really great to get other language speakers. You have a really good turnout so far. So I don't know how much more. Effort we really need to put in at this point. I have off the top of my head at 6% of Amherst is African-American and we have nowhere near that on, on the responses. We're getting it from what I've been hearing. All these systems that we've designed have been getting the same response from the same people somewhat. Yeah, it would be interesting. It's too bad that John Hornick was unavailable to meet today. I know that him and another. Affordable housing trust member. Sid Ferrara, I think this is his last name. They were going to, they've been providing canvassing. And targeting towards like a Portuguese. African-American residents. So it'll be interesting to hear an update from him. At the next meeting. To provide comments on that. So I know that they're actively. Canvassing those demographics. Yeah, I'm like. As Nicole said, the, the percentage of. You know, the race, ethnicity percentages for people over 65. Are not quite the same as the community as a whole. And it looks like we have 4.3% black or African-American. Overall. Yeah. So it's close. I think it's, it's, it's. It's not too bad for. For these types of surveys. But we can always do better. And it's always good to hear from communities that are generally, you know, marginalized or underrepresented. So. That's a good point. Okay. Well, we'll follow up with John on that too. And see what, where he is with, with his survey stuff. And Mila. We can get you data we have so far. I don't know if you want to start looking at it. If we're still getting results in. I don't know that. I don't want you to spend too much time on it. No, I, I can, I, I can start looking at the data. If we have them tabulated already. Make some kind of preliminary. Or yeah, preliminary analysis of what we have so far. Okay. Yeah. Survey monkey will either. Can spit out the tables. Or we can also, I think, save it as a Excel document. If that would be preferable. Either way. Yeah. Okay. So we only have a few minutes left. I just wanted to point that out. Yeah, I think we're all set unless anyone has any other comments. It looks like we don't have anyone from the public. So. Great. Thank you all for your efforts. It's been great. Thank you. Yeah. See you April 25th at 2 30. We'll be the next meeting. Okay. Thank you. Bye.