 The residents are required to report to their designated quarantines. Rights have continued for a third consecutive day and winter rations are at an all time limit. We curfews and isolating people from others to prevent them getting sick. Now is this an effective way of keeping populations safe? And it's kind of the opposite of maybe a TB hospital. It's the other way around. We try to keep the healthy people in and the sick people out rather than the sick people in and the healthy people out. Certainly in terms of like throughout history there's been lots of isolation you know right back to the 1600s when ships would come to Europe bringing cargo they would have to go through health authorities and be checked for plague and for other infectious diseases and you know even right through to kind of you know the Ebola outbreak in the last few years isolating infected people you know is a way of managing a situation like that. So you know there's certainly room for elements of that in kind of the management of situations like this in terms of something as dramatic as that you know when you start looking at kind of imposing quarantine zones and putting people into areas and you know just imposing rules and like forcing people into situations you know that's when it's obviously going to get a lot more kind of ethically challenging. I think it's weird to describe as a quarantine zone. I know they do it in the game but it seems more the equivalent of in the olden days when you built a wall around the town to try and keep sort of marauding outsiders out but there's a sense in which they can see it isn't fully effective because it's an infectious disease and you know whether the spores can move across or we get a sense there that the disease can survive in sort of damp housing which I thought raised an interesting issue which you get in a lot with infectious diseases there's often people who are poorest who live in the worst housing who are most affected there's a sense in which you see some health inequalities and social inequalities show through in the structure who gets infected and by. So inequality and poverty. But let's think about rationing as well maybe there's no food here obviously presumably there's difficulty with infrastructure for getting food to people how do we find that in let's use the word quarantine and the quarantine zone is getting people what they need and the help they require. So how would that go about do you think? I think it would be very difficult because a lot of that is going to be informed by surveillance and depending on what societal infrastructure is available to you there may be some degree or no degree of surveillance so it's not very clear as to how you would be able to detect kind of you know if there was a pocket of people with a particular illness or whether it was spreading very quickly and obviously there's lots of things to consider like how virulent the disease is and how kind of how much how quickly it spreads does it spread from person to person is it direct contact do you have to you know do someone need to sneeze on you or is it in the air can it be you know suspended in the air so I think you know there's lots of things to consider in terms of finding out more about the disease and finding out more about its spread and its transmission before you're able to really adequately kind of allocate a response plan to that if there's even any infrastructure to be able to do that really so I think a lot of it is about kind of that surveillance element and finding out the information and managing with the resources that you do have I mean how would we cope then how would the government cope if we had to lock everything down is there plans in place for that is that sort of thing does it exist Well I guess we did it for the Second World War but maybe the world has changed so much since then that maybe the underlying sense of solidarity that people had or that was generated by the Second World War which enabled the rationing to carry on afterwards people some grumbling but sort of seeing that that was something fair I'm not quite sure what would happen if there was a big disaster and you know somebody tried to institute rationing and you could imagine you know a successor of Cameron saying we're all in this together and they'd be really quite believing anymore and it's only to have any sort of system of rationing it depends on a really strong social solidarity the idea that despite the fact that nobody has enough that somehow people see that it's fair and people aren't gaming with this system He comes over here? Half hour ago he went back to the wharf he's there now