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And from the get go, that's why I thought of that is because from our first Irfan film, namesake. Yeah, namesake. Yeah, this gentleman has been, um, obsessed with us reviewing this, but I'd say Mira Nar, uh, Nar, right? Niar? Yeah. Uh, film. And it's, I think it was mostly in English. Yeah, because it's a Fox, it's a Fox Searchlight Pictures, which is a US-based, they may have a UK studio as well, but it's, um, I think it was designed and released as an American film. Yeah, I think so. But she's done a bunch, uh, this director. She's done monsoon wedding, wedding, uh, salam, uh, Bombay, and a bunch of other stuff. I believe she's a really well-known director, but obviously starring the amazing Irfan and Petra, and then also starring Cal Penn, uh, in the role as their son. Correct. So it came out a while ago, obviously it would be hundreds of pins for all of you, if you haven't watched it, go watch it, come back, I think it's on HBO, that's how, first HBO thing was ever seen. It's on Amazon Prime. Oh, it is on HBO. You can rent it there, yeah, it's not for free, but I did find it over there as well as on HBO. But, uh, Rick, your initial thoughts, I feel good. A beautiful film of subtle profundities and deeply personal expressions without words. As easy and effortless a film as Irfan and Tabuara's artists, and for those of us connected to India in any way, a perfectly genuine and tremendously honest depiction of the differences between East and West and how still to this day there's so much the West can learn from the East and vice versa. Okay. Yeah, that was my, that was my take on it. So you liked it? I'm a lot. Interesting. Yeah, I liked it a lot. I liked it until a point. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, no, I liked it a lot. It basically was like this, and then it was... Oh, really? Uh, real bad. Uh, really? Okay. So what part went... Basically, right after he died, and it was more focused on Kalpen. Okay. First of all, I've never had liked Kalpen. I think that's how you pronounce his name, right? I believe that's correct. Obviously, we've seen him a lot in America. I liked him in Harold and Kumar, but because I was high as shit. Made it a lot better. Well, why not? You should have done that. Yeah, I should have been. Yeah. But it fell into a lot of the categories similar to English-Vinglish, with a lot of supporting people were just terrible. I did not... I could... It was hard for me to watch. More than just him. Like other people around him? Like the one... Okay. I really enjoyed most of the film. Three-fourths of the film. Okay. I really enjoyed it. We'll get into that. Obviously. Trust me, we'll get into that. They are phenomenal. They are wonderful. I enjoyed every second they were on screen. It actually pissed me off when they weren't on screen. I was like, please just focus on them. That's what I wanted. But yeah, he did his best. I was gonna share, but... And the thing that really bothered me was the one with him and the girl he got married to. Mm-hmm. Their whole relationship, one lasted five minutes. Mm-hmm. Like, so they got... They set them up. They had sex. Right. They got a relationship. Got married. She's having an affair. Right. It's over. Real fast. I didn't think she was particularly good. I didn't care about the relationship very much. I didn't care about almost any of the sporting characters. I thought weren't very good at all. Okay. But... Up until the point here... I really enjoyed this film. Because this is gonna sound like I really hated it. But it did take it steep right after that when it focused more on Cal. It took a steep decline because there wasn't that stability in it for me. So it was more than just... Because I had a feeling you would hate the character. Yeah. But it was more than hating the character. It was hard to watch. Okay. In terms of his acting. I just... I never... I think I said it in the trailer reaction. I was like, that would be my concern. And that's essentially what happened. But it was actually more so the supporting people around him. Like any of his love interests I did not believe. I did not like. Wow, really? Yeah. It was quite strange. Interesting. Yeah. Because I didn't have... You didn't have that problem? No. I... He wasn't... His... As is most things I've seen in men. He's not somebody that I necessarily gravitate toward. But doesn't bother me. Example. Like I'm not a Nick Cage fan. But Nick Cage doesn't bother me. I don't watch Nick doing his thing. No, Nick bothers me. Yes, Nick Cage bothers me. Except in kick ass. He was really good in kick ass. I... Even national treasure? It's fine. See, yeah. See. So I... Yeah, this wasn't as fun as a national treasure. But the supporting... And the supporting characters for me. Like I felt like everything that was going on with Gogol was really ancillary to the larger thing. That relationship with the father. Everything he was doing, whatever relationship he was in, he wasn't trying to find himself. He was running away from himself. That's true. And I felt like every relationship that he had that was connected to him in some way was written in order to not get him into deep in this thing he was running away from. So it didn't bother me at all. It wasn't so much just outside of the fact that their whole relationship lasted a total of five minutes. But you didn't like her the actress. No. It was mostly the acting. She was bothering your fun past. Which was incredibly sad. We're going to talk about that. It actually made me want to read the book. Because I've heard this is based off a book. Right. And apparently it's a fantastic, well-known book. Yeah. So I would actually be very interested in reading. Because I'm sure that relationship actually goes obviously more in depth and all the kind of stuff. So I would be very interested. But yes, my favorite parts in terms of the whole part that I would say I like this film a lot more than I dislike it because it's the parts I dislike for mostly at the end. Yeah. See, I liked it. I liked it always through part. But it was a pretty steep decline. But did you like how it ended? Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. Was this fun? Yeah, it was fun. I actually sat at the end. I was like, well, it kind of ruined a great film for me. Really? It was mostly the acting. But like I said, I don't want to harp on that. Okay. I'm done. That was my issues with it. Let's talk about what we enjoyed. One of the rare occasions where I like a film more than you had liked it. So yeah, let's talk about my favorite parts. So let me tell you the part that you tell me how this struck you. Now, I'm glad we waited to watch this. Yeah. Because seeing Irfan on a slab was really, really hard to watch. Yeah. Very hard. And to have watched that any sooner, I don't know that I could have really seen the film for what it is. It just would have been that. It was hard enough as it is. And to watch a funeral ceremony, knowing that not just this character with her husband are so close, knowing how much taboo and Irfan worked together and what his passing probably meant for her. Yeah. Personally, that just freaking sucked. Yeah. That was just awful. Yeah. His character in this though was so good. Obviously, I never expected character of his do event ever. It would be a shock. A shock. It would be an absolute shock. If he put in a bad performance, I would be flabbergasted. You'd have to have some of the worst writing and directing and him having had an awful, awful, awful, awful week. And same with taboo. Yeah. Yeah, same with taboo. Same level. And I think actually if I was, because I do this all the time with the actors that I love, I will tell them which films I think they should see and in which order. Yeah. Right now, sitting in the after effect of the namesake, I would, I think this is a fitting film to watch of his as like the last. Now, we haven't seen all of his films. Yeah. But if you really want to weigh the impact, because as a metaphor or analogy really, his impact on this family is, Irfan's impact on the acting world in India and his passing being such a shock and such a loss and his imprint on acting. And again, an effortless, easy play. One of my favorite performances of his actually. Me too. It was so beautiful. Me too. Like I love the character that was written for him. Me too. The father type that he was, even though he obviously was an arranged marriage. He was such a sweet man and the one time he was, you know, annoyed with his wife because she did something he was like, oh, that's my bad. Yeah. That's my fault. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So he was such a sweet, wonderful husband. The opposite of who he was in the Priyanka film. Remember that? That was awful. That was like the antithesis of this guy. And then, okay. I already love Tabu and she's already my favorite Indian actress, but like, not a false moment. No, she's beautiful. Her character. I was so sad for her so often. And there were so many little things like just her being in the laundromat and the weird guy taking the shirt off. For us, that would be New York. That's New York. But for her, the culture shock and what we've learned about, you know, I could feel that, you know, what family means and what it meant to leave family and trying to create a family. Similar to how I felt about Shredevi in English of English when she was taken out of her culture and then brought into America. Yeah, but this one, I wrote another thing on here. The subtleties of this. Like the subtlety of the massive cultural adjustments, everything from the man in the laundromat to the way, this gets me emotional saying it, to the way the nurse couldn't fold her sari. Yeah. And really didn't seem to give a crap. Yeah. She was just like, wow, this thing's complicated, huh? And she's like, that's really important to me. And that's pretty much the way we Indians are treated over here. Like the things that are the most precious to us. You're just like, can't fold it. Yeah. Right? I did really. And I wonder how... And that baby was not a newborn. I'm sorry. Right when it came on screen. My wife's like, that kid's like a girl. That's bigger than Leland. Exactly. What were you just going to say? When... What was I going to say? I had mentioned the folding of a sari and making... Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Folding of a sari. And then I forget. So say something. I might remember it. Okay. I'll reread what I read. That the nurse couldn't fold the sari. And the way that she folded it was like, yeah, anything that's going on with you guys here in America that's really important to you, we kind of just throw off to the side. And I told her... Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm wondering how it would be... If this... How accurate this is to a... American Indian born here to Indian parents. So I guess that wouldn't technically be a non-resident Indian, right? But I guess it could apply to non-resident Indians. It could apply. But how the kids felt about going back to India. Being in American culture. How accurate is that to their life now? Because it seemed obviously... Because I don't think that would be most Americans, but obviously they grew up going back and forth and they like America better. But going to another culture and experiencing all that they would just seem to be annoyed by being there. Yeah. And so I wonder how accurate that is for a lot of people. I think it really would depend. I think it would depend on your family. You know what I loved? I loved the sweetness where both Tabu and Irfan's characters definitely cherished their lineage. Both as Indians and as Bengalis. Yeah. And they wanted their son to do that. Like they refused to call him Nicky. They always called him Gobo. Yeah, I actually had no idea about this whole name. Yeah. Well, you knew about the Bengali thing. No. We hadn't talked about that? I don't. We might have and I might have forgotten. I thought we did with Kahani. Because when she's in the taxi, she's explaining to him. No, maybe we did. She's explaining to her that Bengalis have a birth name. Yeah. But then they have a nickname. It's just Bengalis? It's very... There may be other regions that do it, but like every Bengali, like Indrani, people around her, where she grew up and all of her friends and family called her Tunia. Tunia. She's Tunia. That's her nickname. But her birth name is Indrani. Gotcha. And all of them have this second name. I remember that in Kahani, the taxi driver explaining, his name badge was one thing, but he was called something else. Okay. So that... The Google, but see, the thing for him was that besides the two name thing, what I loved was they were... They had, I felt, a really good balance of demanding to be connected to their heritage and their people and their culture and wanting their son to be that, but also letting him go do what he's going to do. The moments where he forgot his mom. That was, I was so mad at him. He was a dick. He was a dick. And she was... Similar to a poo. I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. Another Bengali. What is it with Bengali? Hey, but I'm bonked. But Tabu has, she doesn't disappoint. She's never been more beautiful. Yeah, we will watch everything she's done. I love that woman's acting. I love her screen presence. I love the ease. Watching, I cannot think of another screen couple. And I'm talking about the classics like Humphrey Bovart and Catherine Hepburn or Robert Redford and Barbara Streisand and these names where you put two actors together throughout history, there's no one. No one who surpasses the chemistry, the ease and the beauty of watching acting genius like Irfan and Tabu. Absolutely. It is sheer perfection. 100%. Yeah, it was my absolute favorite part of this film because any time they were on screen because they're just so wonderful. And I have a friend who just watched his first Hindi film and it was a near fond one. And so he'll probably really enjoy this one even though I had issues with it but I think he really enjoys romantic comedies and stuff like that. He even was able to sit through Twilight with his wife at one point. Wow. And so obviously he doesn't have as big of issues as I have with certain things. Wow. But this is something, especially for Irfan's and Tabu's performance I want to, like I said, end the story. Yeah, end the story. Like I would very much be interested if you guys say it's a really good book which I think it is. The namesake book I hear is really good. I would actually be really interested in reading that because I really did enjoy the story. There were parts that I just wish they would have done better. Similar to the English-English most of it was acting wise. So what do you think ultimately he does at the end? I think it's pretty self-evident but I love that they didn't spoon-feed us the ending. Do you think he did come full circle and that he did reach the place that his dad said one day he'll understand? Do you think when he's reading the words at the end that he finally embraced his name? Or do you think he still was going by Nicky with his American friends and keeping his Indian and American souls separated? No, I think he definitely had a change when his dad did. Yeah, I think he reaches the place his dad said he would reach and he amalgamates it and actually becomes even more proud of his Indian and Bengali identity than he does his American identity. I thought it was actually a really sweet moment when he did shave his head and I like that I got that. I was like, okay, so the eldest always shaves their head or I think eldest male, I think, or I don't know if it's all the males or if it's just the eldest male. Shaves their head and then they don't have a shirt on when the ceremony is going on and a whole bunch of other stuff but I thought it was a really sweet moment especially when Tabu saw him for the first time. Yeah, and I think that was a cathartic and definitive turning point for him where it was not just the mourning aspect which I think it's a beautiful, I think it's a beautiful way to mourn somebody because it's very common in many cultures to do that and to put on sackcloth and ashes on your head but the shaving of the head is a definitive point of that which was in the past is gone and I can never reclaim it. It's the permanence of it and then that this is going to take me time before I'm back to normal and everybody being accepting and recognizing I don't know how long it's going to take for me to be back to normal and when I am back to normal I'll never be the same because it's not the same hair and I felt it was also not just that aspect of it but it was also him reaching that point of the regret he had and saying, you know what, the old, the nicky who was so obsessed with being an American that I was not paying attention to my Bengali and my Indian-ness that I'm dying to that too but when my dad, that unfortunately it took the death of my father for me to finally see who my father named me to be may that rhyme So, there you have it I hope those of you who have been calling for this film are happy let us know what's the next Irfan Ain't Taboo film I want to see everything they've ever done Yeah, absolutely, you know when we love an actor we will explore everything they've ever done in their life we've seen more of Irfans than we have of Taboo so we do need to get into her way more of hers so let us know which of those we should watch next and the next film we should watch it's not a specific region so this is an English film what's the next film we should watch next down below