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Yo, can we start by wishing a happy birthday to Martin Luther King, the third's wife, Lunen. What? Wait, what do you mean? You don't know Martin Luther King, the third's wife? No, I never heard her. Who's... Well, that's her name. I mean, that's what Joe Biden called her, so I figured that must be her name. Play the clip. Including your wife, who I understand, is birthday today? Well, look, my wife has a role in her family. When somebody's birthday, sing happy birthday. You ready? Happy birthday to you. So sweet. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Lylin. Happy birthday to you. Well, you know what's so terrible about this? Not only did he not know her name, this is the National Action Network conference on MLK Day, and you sing the white version of happy birthday, but you couldn't even let the Stevie Wonder version fly. The Stevie Wonder version that even has a remix that is dedicated to Martin Luther King Jr. Wait a minute, does that one not even have the name? What? The black happy birthday. Happy birthday. I think it's called happy birthday. No, no, but it doesn't have the person that you're singing's name. No. So you would have been fine. You won. That's right. All you got is right. And the whole crowd would have got into it. Whole crowd would have been clapping their hands. You know what I'm saying? And that happy birthday is actually dedicated to Martin Luther King Jr. There's a whole verse about Martin Luther King Jr. and his dream and everything else. This is why you need representation. Happy birthday. What are we doing? This is why you need representation. This is why you need representation. Where is Kamala? Is she? Where is she? I know for a fact Vice President Kamala Harris probably does not know the Stevie Wonder version. Wait a while. I just feel it in my bones that she does not know the Stevie Wonder version of happy birthday. I just feel it. Isn't it? What does it say to you that I'm so fluent in the Stevie Wonder happy birthday? You know it? You are. Come on. I just sang it. Bro, you know how happy birthday to ya. No, that's not it. Happy birthday to ya. Happy birthday. Oh, that is it. Happy birthday to ya. Happy birthday. But that's all you need. You in a black room and you white and you singing in that. The crowd will sing it for you because the song never starts and never finishes. That's right. And then when you don't know the words, you can just go. Nobody even know it. But when you do white happy birthday, you got to know at least a person's name. God damn. Nobody in that room know it. How fucked up is that? He thought they were going to bail him out because he went. Do you feel like President Biden is not getting the smoke he deserves for all the classified documents that are being found? No. I mean, yeah, no. No, what? I think they all got. Me too, bro. Do you think he's getting the smoke he deserves? I don't. I don't think he deserves smoke. Really? Yeah. Talk to me. I just think that, one, you don't do your own moving when you're like a president. I know your lawyer doesn't do it for you. That's facts. I know your lawyer not helping you move. What's going on over there? Taylor, Taylor, Taylor drunk. We get to her later. Yeah, we got to figure it out. But yeah, it's like you don't do your own moving. So you don't know what's being moved. Your lawyers aren't doing the moving for you. We can say that also that. And also if we're going to be like kind of nuanced about it, like now all the documents and shit that you look at are on like iPads and stuff. The documents back in a day with Biden were when he was a vice president and they're printing shit out. Trump had printed ones out. That was from last year. But that's a problem. They had moved to a digital system and he was still printing them out. No, I thought that they had classified documents and Trump just took the classified documents home from the White House. Well, no, I guess what I was told is that they've moved to a digital system. So then printing out the documents that should just be viewed digitally. So in other words, hey, we're going to brief you on this. Read the document and then we take it away and then it's gone. Yeah. But what he was doing, I guess, is printing these things out. Is that how classified documents weren't though? Because I was recently they transitioned to this new system back in the day with Biden. That was when he was vice president. They weren't doing it. Wasn't throwing out ground documents and iPads. I just like consistency. You know what I'm saying? But do you see the I guess the difference? It's rare that I'm coming for the Biden administration, but it is a difference in that they transition from a printing out paper system to a digital system. That's the first I'm hearing of that. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. I mean, I didn't I thought everything was kept, you know, but here's why I don't even care, dude. Like there's no way they're going to print out anything that's that important. They don't do it. Well, here's the thing and I'm not coming to leave for Trump because it's not about Trump. It's just about consistency. When it happened to Trump, it was all about the documents. It was we don't know what's on them. It could be nuclear codes. It could be personal information that he's selling the foreign governments. They don't do that. But my point is that's what the media was saying. Yeah, they use it as it is. Now with Biden, it's oh, well, it's not really about the documents. Classified documents slip up and leak all the time. Now it's about the obstruction that Trump did. Like, no, that's not what y'all said when it was Trump. Are we finding out that the media is not fair? I know the media is not fair. There's a liberal slant to the media. I've always known that, you know what I mean? But it's just the principle, like, let's at least try to have consistency. Let's not make the hypocrisy be so, so blatant. They don't care. Nobody fucking cares. And that's the reality is nobody really cares right now about just anything. Life is good. We're not close enough to election where we've got to pretend to care about the issues and that kind of stuff. So this type of hypocrisy comes out and we're like, I don't really care that much about it, especially since it feels as if the momentum for the Trump campaign is waning. I don't know about that, bro. I don't. It feels it feels rough out there for Trump. I tell you why I tell you why it's good for any Republican who will become the presidential nominee. Because the Republican Party is going to stick together no matter what. That's facts. So it doesn't even matter. That's fact. You know what I mean? Republicans are like Mexicans in prison. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's push up time, guys. Let's go. They're going to be together. Organize. No, you're right. Do it, Calisthenics. You're right. They're going to all be on the same page. So high socks. When people say Trump's campaign is waning, it's just like, all he got to do is get there and win, and then everybody's going to get in line. I just don't know if he got the same juice that he had in the past. Like, in the past, that motherfucker was charged up. And now I don't even hear him talking. But we never seen anything like it before. Fair enough. You know what I'm saying? Now we know all the tricks. There's nothing new. I will say what happens with this Biden situation that makes it harder to hold the GOP accountable. Because the GOP are the kings of what about it. You know what I mean? So it's like, well, you did XYZ, so did y'all. Trump ran a whole campaign on what about it. I feel like that's, yeah, this is the best thing for Trump. Yeah, that's what his whole career was. Best thing for the GOP, period. Yeah. And that's the problem when you try to stand on moral issues, when you try to have a moral high ground. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, knock it off. Biden literally was on 60 minutes saying, how irresponsible can someone be? They just have classified documents lying around. 95 classified documents at three different locations. Right, right, right. President Biden. Yeah. And your administration has no nothing for it. Just like, oh, we'll leave it up to the DOJ. Really? Yeah. Really? How that could possibly happen. How it wasn't anyone could be that irresponsible. And I thought, what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods? And by that, I mean, names of people who helped or et cetera. And it's just totally irresponsible. Come on. So my thing is like, what's, I don't be wanting to know what's right and what's wrong. Yeah. But I thought it was wrong to bring classified documents home. That's what y'all told me when Trump got called. But now you're saying it happens all the time and it was the obstruction. But I said the same thing with Trump. Like, there's levels to classify it. Like, if there's some real important shit, like nuclear codes or like geopolitical secrets or like names of operatives, they're abroad, like some actual real important shit, they're not printing that out ever. That said, in a closed-door room with no audio leaking, et cetera. That is private information with this kind of stuff that they're actually printing out. Right? This is bullshit. It's like, OK, what are we going to do with the lawn? I feel like digital would be more easy to hack that kind of shit now, then. You think? You think? You see what just happened last week, that goddamn cyber attack of the fucking FAA. Oh, when they tried to make Pete Buttigieg not run for president? I don't care what. You think that's what it was? Sometimes you got to, you know what I mean? Sometimes you got to let them know. I just think America got their jaw tapped a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Somebody wanted to know whether it was Russia and China. But we had to take it. Exactly. Somebody wanted to let them know, hey, we out here. Yeah. You know what I mean? But yeah, that's happened all the time. But I love how, like, if you're not going to do anything back to the country that did the attack to you, you say it was on you. Some people say that about JFK getting killed. They're like, that could have been a Russian operative or that could have been Russia that actually did it. And what America did was covered it up because we didn't want to actually go to full-on war with Russia. Because if you kill a sitting president, like, that's war. You got to get to fucking, right? Luke, baby. Yeah, that's Luke Warby. So it's easier to go, we did it. And then that takes all the smoke out of Russia's or it takes all the wind out of Russia's sails. Because Russia's pumping their chest, like, yeah, we just took out a president. And then you look at the news and it's like, we took out our own president. Yeah, it's crazy that whoever did that really thought that Pete Buttigieg would ever be a threat to be president of the United States. I mean, he's the only one that's like, can, I don't know, can hold a conversation. Whatever country did that, don't buy into the propaganda. What do you mean? America is not electing a gay president. I don't think he's gay, bro. What? I think we got to start pulling receipts, bro. I think we got to start pulling receipts. It's a lot of people claiming gay out here, bro. The secretary of transportation. That's different. No. That's different. Oh, I was going to say, because you know what he's riding. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Oh. Secretary Pete is gay. And I don't think America's ready. A mustang. I don't think America's ready to elect a gay president. I don't. I think we need to see receipts on the gay. It's so easy to claim gay. It's so easy to claim bi. I think we need to see, gays might have to start pulling up and pulling out on these guys claiming gay. What would be the benefit of faking gay? I'm just saying, come on, show us, come on. There was a time where there was so much, and the homophobia still is way too present. That's why I don't think way too present. I don't think this country will ever elect a gay president. And I think that that's a reasonable position to take. But, and you're not yet, you're saying it because of how homophobic people are. Absolutely. But there was a time where the homophobia is so present that if anybody said they were gay, you were like, well, they must be. Yeah. Because, oh my God, there's so much homophobia and so much backlash, and there's so many people are going to hate you because of that. So you would never lie about that shit. Right? Maybe we've come to a time where there isn't as much of it and there are advantages to claiming gay. I think there's more homophobia now. And I think that if there's one thing that- I think it's white people's way out of like white responsibility. I don't even think it's just white people who are homophobic though. No, no, no. I'm saying like when like, these like white like singers or actresses or that kind of shit are like, I'm gender neutral or I'm bi. It's just their way of like tapping into an oppressed thing. You know what I mean? So it's like, you're not a straight white person. So now you're not responsible for all the fuck shit straight white people have done. So you're part of the oppressed class. So now you got some victim currency without doing nothing. If you claim bi, you get to fuck the people that you want to, you get to be straight. I believe- Still. I believe anybody who's of the LGBTQ plus community is really a member of the LGBTQ plus community. I believe you have to check the receipts. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Pull up, pull out. Pull up and pull out. I just don't see the benefit in pretending- Don't take advantage of gay people's actual gay people struggle. That's what I'm saying. Don't co-op their struggle for your career, to have success, to remove whatever you're trying to do, to remove your privilege or whatever it is, because people really went through it. No, they're still going through it. And still going through it. And going through it. And going through it. No, you're right. So we pulling up and asking for receipts. I need to see some DM. The only reason I say that's not fair is because I do think we live in an era where people have more confidence to come out now. Yes. Because of how many people that have come out. You know what I'm saying? So I think a lot of times when we see these people, we be like, you don't really, it's because they never had the confidence to come out. So yeah, they might have to wait until 30, 40 years old. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody in his brain is the youngsters. These youngsters will let you know straight up. Like, we flew it, baby. And then come back. And word up. Like they'll be like, I'm a girl. And then like a year later, be like, I was playing. Is it right? Yeah. I was playing. I was curious. I was curious. Yeah, for real. No, you're right. You're right, you're right. Salute to the LGBTQ community. You know, I wanted to talk to you about. Talk to me, man. This is something that I've been seeing. Can we talk about the video you showed? Oh, yes. Let's play this clip because it's all about comedy. This clip, we're going to insert this clip. It's this clip of the Jefferson. People may not realize that all in the family was a spinoff of the Jefferson. The few of a certain age, you remember that. You know what I'm saying? So Archie Bunker was on an episode of the Jefferson, the Good Sister comedian, Ms. Pat. She posted a clip of this and she said, this is what sitcoms used to be before y'all got soft. What's your thoughts on that? I actually think this is incredibly progressive. Talk to me. Now we look back at it and we see all these incredibly racist jokes, and we go, wow, this is racist. But I think what the show is exposing is, one, racism of all races and cultures. But also, like, here are the mistakes that white people that don't know black people or enough black people often make with black people. They don't realize a thing. They're not coming from a hateful place. But the thing that they're saying is, races are hateful. So we're going to show you, in the funniest fucking way, why you don't do that. And I bet you there is a whole bunch of white people that grew up watching that show going, oh shit, we can't say Mammy or whatever. Or you can't say, I didn't even know that term was racist. Yeah, Mammy is a term used to degrade black women. But to your point, that's why TV is art, and that's why they call TV programming, right? I can think of an episode of Girlfriends when Lynn, who's biracial on the show, her white sister, is in the hair salon singing JZH to the Izo, and she says the N-word, whole hair salon stops, and now they spend the next 20 minutes of the show having a discussion about it. So you see what happened? That was wrong. You see people react to it, and then there's a solution by the end of the show. We need more of that. But what I liked about this was it was like medicine and the candy. You don't even know there's medicine. Like we're putting the medicine in it because we're basically going, oh wow, you kind of teaching people what you can and can't say at a time where white people did not have probably as many black friends, and there are plenty of white people that had no black friends, and they don't even know what you're supposed to say and not say. And but also exposing that there's might be a racist or prejudice from black people to white people. Obviously the mix called, the mix. Dr. Umar before Dr. Umar, baby. That's it, bro. That's the fucking blueprint. They don't want the interracial relationship. Anyway, I thought it was just really cool, and there is a way to use racism in characters to teach, I don't want to say teach a lesson, but. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, it is kind of cool. So it's very easy to look back at this and be like, oh, this is some racist bullshit. Is it, though? Or is it exposing what does happen in life and why it could be wrong? It's art reflecting life. Whose phone keeps going off? Taylor really going through it today, huh? She wants to have a baby. It's, no, we don't talk about it. But like, is that what she does when we don't talk to her? And she said it to you because she wants us to talk about it on the podcast clearly. I could tell. She wants to have a baby. What did I do when I walked in? I gave her a hug, right? Because I was like, you are fucking going through it. Yeah, you could tell. And now she just wants attention. She leaves her phone ringing. Nobody texts in her. You could tell. She's on her laptop texting her phone to make sounds so that we can talk about her on the podcast. I thought you told her that because of her new girl. That's what made you think she was going through it. Why did you all of a sudden want to have a baby? What's that about? Don't go because you did it on purpose. You told me and you told Andrew because you wanted to be talked about. Why? And you got the little Bronx baby fat coat on. She ready to be a little teen mother. She really done. You really are dressed up like a teenage mom right now. She got the baby fat snorkel with the fur on it. She is dressed like a teenage mom. This is definitely 16-year-old teenage mother from the Bronx. I heard Brenda got a baby. Brenda barely got a brain. A damn shame. That is definitely the teenage pregnancy coat. Yeah, it is. It really is. That is, yeah, that's a wild situation. Why do you want to have a baby, Taylor? Go ahead. Tell us real quick. Maybe somebody's listening. Maybe they want to make that mistake and get you pregnant. First of all, I'm not getting pregnant unless I have a husband and all that. OK, so you're not getting pregnant? But fuck you. But I'm just saying, seeing my nieces this weekend makes me feel with love. And I just want a daughter just like my nieces, that's all. Why not just be auntie? I love being the fun. I am the fun aunt. But I want one of them. How do you know you're the fun aunt? I definitely am the fun. Why? Compared to my sister. Because they're laughing at you? They might be laughing at you. First of all, no, no, they're not. Why is she so old in our height? How old are they? Stop. They are 9, 13, and 6. Oh, 13. You're definitely taller than you. No, she's not actually. Oh, OK. Not yet. All right. But I don't want to have this conversation. It's a deep one, right? Not really. How y'all make it? No, it's not got to be deep. You're about to get spun up. No, it's deep. You want to have a baby. It's just a beautiful thing. You're going through the life process. How old are you? Yeah. 31. 31 years old. So you got about maybe like four more eggs left or something like that? I'm not through. We need to stop that. What do you mean? Because that's just not real. Stop. What are you talking about? That's not real. Hold on. What? It's not real with what the doctor is saying. I'm doing what's not real. There's plenty of women. Tell us how science ain't real, y'all. Tell us how it's not real. Because there's plenty of women that had babies when they were old of age. I know. My mom had me when she was 35 years old. Look, that happened now. Exactly. You're fine. I'm fine, but I'm a little wonky. You know what I mean? I'm old sperm, old egg. Clearly, you see me as old. You know what I mean? My toes don't work. I got arthritis everywhere. I'm not even 40 years old because my mom and dad were fucking old. So they passed down that arthritis. So you got to get to, you know what I mean? You got to get to getting shot up. Well, tell these guys to step it up then. Step what up? Are you soliciting guys to shoot your club up? No, I'm not. I need to wrangle my finger first. And then we could talk about babies. But other than that, no. You're going to have to calm down with all these demands. You're not in the demand age. You are not. What is that supposed to mean? You know what I mean? Like, you reach a certain age. I'm not in the demand age. It's crazy. Like, demand age is like 26. You saying she had to end her contract? You say she had to end her prime. That's not real. Are you saying she should be asking for the veteran's minimum? Are you trying to get the max? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I know you should stop talking too. You should stop talking. Can Brady command the max? There ain't no way Brady get in the max. I know he's had a lot of good years. He's done a lot of good stuff and nobody paying Brady the max right now. I'm just saying, you're not in the age of I need to wrangle. Yes. Because he need to see if you work first. He's like, let's get pregnant then, I'm married. That is true, y'all. You're acting like, you know, these guys are here. But what if these guys don't want to get you pregnant? What if they talk to you and they like, I don't know if I want to breathe with her? OK. You ever thought about that? OK. Well, I don't get that, though. I get actually people wanting to. Getting one in the what? Breathe with me. Yo, just because I get, yo, yo, yo, tell it. Oh, does your uncle really have to tell you this? Don't listen to nothing a guy says when he's on top of you naked. Oh, I love you. I want to be with you. I have my babies. You believe that silly shit? No, rest of all, that never happened to me during sex. They don't hear it from the top. Them saying that that's too much talk, first of all. Oh. And then second. You don't let them talk to you? I don't like, I like grunts, not us. You don't got to talk to me. I want to breathe. I want to breathe. Just know God is saying you're all like the bedroom or out of the bedroom saying that shit. Happy birthday to you. Don't even know her name. That's exactly right. The happy daddy, happy birthday to you. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's not how you got to say it. That does not run through my family's blood. So tell us, listen, those guys that have said that to you, why aren't they viable candidates? Yeah, because I saw something that I don't like. Why don't you fuck with no white people, bro? I can't do that. Why not? I'm this age. No. Why not? Not in this age. Not in this age, bro. Why not? Not at 31? They not going to be down for that? I don't want to. I want I don't want to have baby. I want all black. I don't want to have baby. Let me ask you this question. What's the whole baby? That's fucked up. You don't want to have baby, bro. You don't want to have baby, yo. Why don't you want to have baby, man? What's wrong with it? It's going to come out easier. It's not going to fuck up your body as much. Wait, what? It's going to slide out easier. It's not as big a half baby. Says who? Yeah, it's shut up. What I'm just saying. Listen, it's a good girl. Hope you get your wish, Taylor. No, you got this. I do. I hope you get your wish. You got this. You want to be. I'm serious. I see you. Can I see you if I can lift curfew? If you want a baby, I'm down for that. I'm happy for you. But you want to find a guy. Exactly. That's the only way I'll have a baby if I have. That's the only way I work. No, it's not. As if I have a family, like building a family. She got standards, bro. Yes. Yo, the only way I'm having a baby is if a guy gets me pregnant. I hate you. That's the only way. I'm not having a baby. No other way. That's a guy. I don't want to hear shit about no stalks. Nothing. OK. No artificial insemination or whatever the fuck it is. I'm not having a baby if it's not for my man. Man gets me pregnant. I'm still here for, you know, hopefully in the future, y'all can have babies too. But, you know. What do you mean? We can have babies. No, man. I want y'all to be able to carry the baby. See, this type of shit is going to make you not get pregnant. Well, why not? Like, why do y'all not want to share that? God, God, I have a favor, yo. Yes. You know what I mean? God, God, I have a favor. God gave his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers, yo. Oh, God. Oh, God, God, bars, bro. God, no, we can't handle no having no kids. God, God, bars, bro. All you need to do is just get a C-section. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. To have a baby is better than a C-section. C-section is worse. Of course. Trust me. I've seen them all. You know what I'm saying? My second daughter was delivered C-section. C-section is worse. That's a surgery. They got to cut you open, rearrange your organs, take the baby back, and put the organs back in the right place. There's so much room for error with C-sections. Like, vaginal birth is way more safer than C-section. But I'm just saying C-section is happening, though, right? Nah, man. I'd rather have it out my butt. I would not want no C-section. Well, I hope for that, OK? Why? I just want y'all to share it. I just feel like it's not fair that we have to deal with all this shit. Y'all don't like nothing God gave y'all. Don't we should like grades and everything else? No. Also, your birth is going to be quick how short you are. Shut up. It's not. You know, God goes for it. Whoa. Yo, future baby, please don't try to bungee jump out of Taylor. You're going to smash your fucking head around. Whoa. Come on, man. Nine months down the drain. Sure do people have more babies, Asia. Oh, my God. Two billion Asians. There's like five Swedish people. Because it's so tall. It's hard to get them babies out. You don't want that, yo. You don't want that. You can have a baby. You don't even know it. I'm telling you the doctor going to be playing usher. There goes my baby. You don't want that. You don't want that. For real. For real. You don't want that. For real. You don't think you have some flatulence one day and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, boom. You think you push out of the mark. I'm very well aware of my body and what happens with it. So that's not going to be no surprise. You say that. Everybody, see, everybody got a plan that they get punched in the face. That's what giving birth is. That's what giving birth is. No joke. How do you know? Because I've seen four of them. You haven't felt it. So that's why I'm saying you have to feel it. No, see, you've never had a soulmate. You never saw a video of something that was impactful to you? And she's never had a soulmate. So being that she's never had a soulmate. Says who? Because if you had a soulmate, you'd have a baby. Because she's never felt anybody's pain. Are you cooking right now, bro? That's not true. That was your pain. I ain't have nothing to say to that one. She never felt anybody's pain. If you saw your wife, I said, I felt my wife's pain. You could feel her pain. I'm telling you, and every time was worse. Yup. There was never a time, and it was like, oh, this is easy. She did this every time. Yup. Yup. But I want you to have a baby, Taylor. Congratulations. I want you to have a baby, too. Can you wish me like a good man to have a baby with, too? I asked you for a whole lot. You asked for a whole lot. Damn, you're 40 years old. Talk about I need a good man. You know what I mean? Why don't we just start at post? Post. Yeah. I'm on post. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Didn't come. Yeah. Like, let's just chill out. Good man. Getting all picky. Damn, you're 47. You know, you're 47 years old. You know what I mean? Come on, yo. It's so funny that she says she want a baby, and she decided to break out the freaking teenage pregnancy coach. Because she's trying to lure him in. That is crazy. You're trying to lure him in. You want a 21-year-old Dominican from Queens. That's what you're going after. You're going after a 21-year-old Dominican from Washington Heights. She know how fertile Dominicans are. That's it. Done. Done. Done. I want you to have a baby. All right, let's move on. Now, explain to me. I'm going to ask you a question. Yep. And I think you're qualified to answer this. OK. But you are a comedian. OK. OK. And we don't like panda bears. We don't like panda bears. Panda bears, right? Have you ever thought Chris Rock was pandering the white people? No. Never. Where is this narrative coming from? That all of a sudden, Chris Rock, the man who gave us bigger and blacker, the man who used to get in trouble for racist jokes towards white people, where did this rhetoric come that he panders to white people in his comedy? Yeah, I don't know. I do not. Yeah, I do not know. Where do you think? I do not know. The first I saw, you know, our good sister, Ebony K. Williams, she said she saw him last year. I saw him last year. She said she felt like he was pandering. I didn't see that at all. I had a very interesting weekend. It started by me attending the Chris Rock show by myself. OK. I have been a lifelong Chris Rock comedy fan. For me, Chris Rock is done. Chris Rock was so clearly shucking and jiving. Don't tell me that. He was so clearly curtailing his bits for white claps. It was just full-on, unapologetically anti-black. Really? This black-ass man was sitting on this auditorium. Basically what he said was, I'm black, but I'm not a. He said it in front of a room full of white people. Right. And they were laughing their fucking asses off Dustin. I left halfway. I was disappointed. I was hungry. Let me just take my black-ass on the checkers. I left their thinking. He needed to be slapped one more time. I didn't like the first slap. I thought it was just whatever. But now I'm like, what the shit? Where is Big Willie when you need him? And then Jason Lee was on the See the Thing is podcast with Mandy and Bridget Kelly. And he said that Chris Rock fan is the white people. When? When did that happen? All I've ever seen Chris Rock do is that. It's challenged white people. Challenged the white supremacist system. Chris Rock is the guy who literally within two minutes I think it was a. Also explaining the black experience. I was explaining the black experience to white people. Like Chris got that great joke where he's like. He talks about his neighborhood. Yes. That joke. Yes. Is one of the best jokes. Yes. About explaining the black experience and like what whites. I don't know. What is he called? Like white mediocrity. Yeah. I think that would be the bigger and black or cute and messenger. It means it talks like what a black person needs to do to achieve like what a regular white person. Yeah. He said in his neighborhood it's only four people. It's Mary J. Blyat at the time. Yeah. He goes, he goes, my neighbor there are four black people. Yeah. It is Mary J. Blyat. It is Jay Z. Eddie Murphy. Chris Rock and. Eddie Murphy. Was it Eddie Murphy? Yeah. And he goes, he goes. Now that is the greatest R&B singer of all time. Greatest rapper of all time. Greatest comedian. The greatest comedian of all time. And then he says like in a pretty good comedian. He's like self deprecating with himself. Right. And then he goes my neighbor is a dentist. Word. White neighbor is a dentist. He didn't invent the veneer. Word. But it was brilliant. Yeah. And I don't know. I think this is really unfair. Listen, there's a essay that Chris Rock wrote on racism a while ago. And I think it was Hollywood Reporter wanted him. But go back and watch the Oscar Soul White monologue from 2016. Not just watch the monologue, watch the whole show and watch how he challenges racism and white supremacy. Like there's one part where he goes this year the in-memoriam package is going to be all the black people that were shot by cops on their way to the movies. Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying. Like maybe it's because he operates in white spaces more often. Well, he speaks about that here on this thing with Kevin Hartshaw on Kevin Hartshaw on Peacock. It's a weird thing. So I do bring the pain. And I'm on Oprah and I'm on 60 Minutes. And I'm just all I'm on the cover of every magazine or whatever in the world. But you had that Whitney Houston rumbling with like only white people like it. Too many white people like it. So when it was time to do my next special, I'm like, oh, oh, you think only white people like you. OK, well, I'm going to the Apollo. And there ain't going to be no white people nowhere. And I'm going to call the special bigot. This is the blackest special you will ever see. That's my point. It's like, yo, have you ever seen Big In Blacker? He does it in Harlem. He starts off talking about how he's scared of young white kids because all they do is shoot people. Elevator joke. Yes, he's got a whole bit about racism and how white people need to shut the fuck up about losing the country. I'm like, this is this is a tricky thing. Because I think that one of the I think that the genius of Chris Rock is that he's able to communicate things that black people know from their own experience to a way to to non-black people. It's not just white people. But it's to the masses, right? There are Indians that love Chris Rock, Asians that love Chris Rock, right? And he can communicate those things. And black people get to go, yes, I relate to this. This is it. And non-black people get to go, oh, shit, that's hilarious. I didn't see it that way. That's right. Now, and a little bit of shame, a lot of shame. Of course, a lot of shame. You're embarrassed that you didn't see it like that. Yo, they called Chris Rock racists a couple of weeks. Well, they called them racists a few times for white jokes he made about white people. And in fact, he used to use cracker. All the goddamn thing which he's back doing in this new bit, which I love. But there was a time where it was a school shooting. I forgot where it was. And Chris Rock posted on Instagram what everybody thinks when it's a school shooting or when it's a mass shooting. He put a picture of Betty White, Betty White. And they called him racists for that. Like, I'm like, Chris Rock has done his challenge racism in white supremacists. But this what happens when you're successful is they have to find a way to discredit you. And that's just a part of success. I'm sure you've experienced it. You know what I mean? I've experienced it. It's like they have to find a way to nitpick you because it's easier to tear you down than for those people who aren't as successful to just look at themselves and go, oh, shit, I don't got what he got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's what happens when you get super, super famous, successful like Chris Rock. And also there might be some Will Smith fans out there. For real, like, there might be some Will Smith fans going, OK, we got to pick sides now. And I'm going to go with Will because Will didn't ever do this. Well, listen, if that is the case and this is because of Will Smith, if you all thought that people, if you all are saying Chris Rock panders the white people with his comedy, what do you think people used to say about Will? Oh, I mean, also, they used to call Will soft. They used to say Will is just a white. He tapped the answers. Why they would that was a thing. Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah, also the. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know. I don't think Will did like an explicitly black experience ever until he got canceled. Right. Now, I'm sure this is by design. I'm sure his agents are going, well, we want you to just be the biggest superstar in the world, regardless of race. So we're not going to pick a specific movie that's tied to race. Yeah. But put it like this, Will, which also does open up other opportunities to other black actors to play roles that aren't specifically high on black guy. Will's trajectory was not that of Chris Rock. Will's there was never a time when Will was on the come up with. He was like, I'm going to go to Harlem and make a bigger and blacker. Yeah. Because that's not what you did when you was a big Hollywood superstar. Yeah. Maybe the thing with Chris Rock is when you see him in like films and when you see him just hanging out and you see his peer group, it's all white people. So you're like, oh, from the outside, that's what it looks like. From the outside, the average person's going, oh, he's hanging out with Seinfeld, or he's hanging out with Sandler, or he's hanging out with all these dudes. So it's like. But that's the New York comedy scene. That's what I'm saying. I recognize that. And I go, oh, these are his peers. These are the greats that came up at the same time. Not to mention, there are plenty of other black greats that came up at that time that I'm sure that he's close with. But when you think of him in those circles, you're like, okay, I see him as comedian. So I'm seeing him just hang out with other comedians. This is going to sound so fucking stupid. But when there are a bunch of comedians hanging out, it's not like I'm white first and then comedian. It's we're all comedian first and then race. And that allows us to talk about things in a kind of wild way. So I wonder if the perception is you not seeing him doing traditionally black cultural things as much and doing mainstream things. But what did he not do that wasn't black and cultural? Essence Fest, he didn't host. I host Essence Fest. I've done that three or four times. But he's never done that once. Here's the thing, Chris Rock has always been a black voice to me in mainstream, whatever that is, America. You know what I'm saying? He was always the black guy that was black, but still representing hip hop. You know what I'm saying? Still representing blackness on a high level. Whether it was the HBO show, the Chris Rock show. Whether it was everybody hates Chris. Whether it was him on SNL. Whether it was his stand up. He was a black guy that I saw get super success by really being black. And being militant. But militant, exactly. Yeah, like he wasn't doing it in a metaphorical way. He wasn't doing it in a more cartoonish way. He was deliberate, straight to the point. This is what I want to talk about. And never changed. You can go back and watch his last stand up, special tambourine. He starts off tambourine by saying, I want to live in a world with really quality. I want to live in a world where an equal amount of white kids are shot every month. That's wild. I want to see white mothers on TV crying. That's how he starts off tambourine. This was two years ago. Now, y'all trying to tell me that Chris Rock panders to white people in this comedy. Now, Taylor bought up a good point because I always like to ask the young and not so young like Taylor, you know what I'm saying? Middle-aged, middle-aged. I like to ask middle-aged people. Middle-aged women what they're thinking. Exactly, you know what I mean? And she bought up the... Taylor having a midlife crisis now that we think about. Absolutely, 100%. Absolutely. That's what like men we buy cars, she's like, I need to get pregnant right now. But she was saying that video of Chris Rock, Seinfeld, Louis C.K., Ricky Gervais, Talking Funny, I believe is the name of the show. Yes, she said that segment where he's allowing, I don't know if I can say allowing, but they were using the N-word, you know, in his presence. She said a lot of people see that clip and she said that's why she thinks people have that. That's a really tough clip outside of context. And again, not outside the context of the show, outside the context of being comedians. What this was done, this was done in a time where there was a real curiosity about comics and we kind of accepted that comics were gonna say wild things that other people did not. And there were a lot of comics, some of our friends' contemporaries that have jokes with the N-word. Yeah. Like you look at... Louis C.K. was one of them. Louis C.K., George Carlin. Yeah. Like the goats, the people that would call the goats. Barbara Walters would bring it up in interviews. That's what she was a wild girl. You know what I'm saying? Babs was a wild girl, bro. Go pull up the Barbara Walters' Richard Fry interview. She lets two of them fly. Yeah. Big. See, it's hard for me to say. You talk about niggas. You can say it. I can't say it. You just say it. Yeah, but I do. You said it very good. No, I'm comfortable. No, you say it. I don't like the nigga period. As I can see, I don't say it. I don't like the nigga period. So I think this is what this was, is they're like, hey, we're gonna be comedians, kind of like workshopping, talking shit. Yeah. Right? And then Seinfeld comes along and nerds it up. Only can you say that, right? And the reality is, is if they were actually at a table, at a comedy club in private without the cameras rolling, they would, everybody would be saying that shit. Well, I think this was interesting, because to your point, yes, I think Seinfeld, Seinfeld is the one who recognized like, I don't know if y'all should be saying this. On camera. Probably. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Or he's a member of an oppressed group, right? You and people. Yeah. And so he wouldn't want nobody using Jewish slurs. Seinfeld also said on a late night show, he's like, I can separate the art from the artists with Cosby. And then they went to commercial, he was like, I kind of regret that. I don't know if that was the smartest thing that I should have said, but the knee-jump reaction was to separate the art from the artist. But you know why? Because that's such a cliche thing to say. Yeah. Until you realize, well, wait a minute now. Now you know what it really is. The artist really jumped out the window. That he went out the window. But what it really is, is he's a comedian, so he's looking at the comedy and he values comedy more than anything. And I think when you're with people who value the art more than anything, they can put these other things aside. And that's just for dudes that really value the art. And by the way, you can critique this moment with Chris, Louis C.K., Ricky Gervais, and Seinfeld. But the call Chris a supercoon or to say Chris panders to white people with his comedy, you ain't watched enough Chris Rock. Well, that's also a bunch of kids on the internet that aren't old enough to know fucking Chris Rock. Well, Jason and Ebony are, well, Ebony's younger, you know what I mean? But Jason's, huh? Oh, you want to do an ad? Can I use that from real quick? All right, let's pay some bills. Y'all stop disrespecting the goat Chris Rock, please. Today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform for building your brand and growing your business online. 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Yo, this movie I might be in, I think it's coming out. Oh, the joint with Jonah Hill. I'm seeing the previews everywhere. Yeah, so. Jonah Hill and Lauren London, the most unrealistic couple ever in the history of cinema. It's called movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Eddie Murphy, Julia, Louise, Dreyfus, David DeCovney, Kenya Barris directing, like. Big Lauren London. Big Lauren London. I mean, so many people in it. It was crazy. It was crazy. So that's at Mike Apps. You know what I mean? Mike Apps is in it? Young Miami, right? Young Miami was out there. I don't see Young Miami in none of the trailers, but I know she's in there. Nah, she was in there. The wagon's stupid. La La also. Is he La La in the trailer or leave him? No, no, no, no. There's a trailer for sure. Well, they play Lauren's Friends. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. And then, I mean, so many people in it, it was crazy. So hopefully I got a little something in there. Hopefully they kept the liner to a mind. That'd be really cool. So that's going to come out on Netflix. Make sure you check out that. And also, I'm a fashion icon now. Did you know that? No, man. I tried to get you to come with me. Shoates hits me up. He's like, yo, you want to go to Paris this weekend? And walk in, what's my man's name? Kitsuper. Kitsuper's fashion show? Like, enjoy being childless shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when you're childless, you can just... I'm going to call Taylor. Yeah, you can just up... Holy shit, holy shit. Because when you're childless, you can just up and do stuff like that. Yeah. He's like, yo, the PJ leaving Thursday. It'll be back Sunday. You and your wife will go. I'm like, how are you just going to bite my wife? Who going to wash the kids? We got cheerleading competitions. We got school to take people to. Like, I don't know, I don't know. I get it. If yo, by the way, it sounds amazing. It would have been fun. Would love to do it. Run around. I don't think I'd have got on the jet though. Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough. But I'd have got to. Yeah. Anyway, so that's going to be fun. I'm going to walk in Kitsuper's show. Kitsuper's fucking brilliant. And real true New York creative genius. He's also the men's designer for Louis Vuitton. Wow. So yeah, he's just absolutely crushing it. So it's been great to see what happened with him and or what's been happened with him. So I'm going to go walk his show. And he's like, all in white lives. Madness shirt come out. Run, bro. You think I should? Yeah. Don't get caught in those pictures, bro. That's a good ass fucking point, bro. That's a good ass fucking point, bro. If he really wants to kill, talk to me. He had people come out in black live. Madness shirts. Oh, just to. Yo, what should I win? That's actually fun. What should I wear? Black live shirt. Black lives matter. Yes. Whoa. I'm telling you. Whoa. You changed the game. Whoa. OK, well, that's another one, too. How do you shake it up? I think that's it. Because it's a. Black lives matter feels so antiquated. But you're making fun of Yay. Well, there's got to be a better way to make fun of Yay. But then you give him attention. What I love right now is nobody gives a flying fuck. Nobody, no matter what he does. Bro, he's trying so hard. He's like, I'll marry a white woman. And we're still like, we don't care. I'm waiting for him to announce she's Jewish. Oh, is she? No. I don't know if she is or not. Oh, that would be a genius way. No, it would not. That would be so corny. That's the type of stuff he does. Oh, I'm married to a Jewish woman. How could I be anti-Semitic? Shut the fuck up. That's a good ass point you make. That's a good ass point. You've got to have some Jewish kids. Then. No, not even then. That's like that's so typical, Yay. Like that's some predictable shit he would do. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I mean. But it's just so funny to see people not care because never in his like professional life of people not giving a fuck this much. You know why? Why? Because there's another white woman. If he'd have got with a sister. Which I'm trying to tell you, Black Lives Matter. If he would have got with a black woman and say he got married. I got you. Everybody would have been like, whoa. I got you. Ready? Ready? Black wives matter. Ooh. You don't have a black wife? You don't know that about me, bro. You don't know that about me. I don't know what your queen I do to find that. You don't know about me. You don't know if I got a fresh Nubian in the crib. You don't know that about me. No, but for real, Black Wives Matter, man. That's dope. You should get that off. That's fire. Black Wives Matter. Now, how do I pull it off? What do I say when people go, why do you have a Black Wives Matter shirt and your wife is white? Say because I love Charlotte's wife. She's my people. See, you know, and say I want to encourage black men to be with white women. Shout out, Michael B. Jordan. Yo. I mean, I want to encourage black men to be with black women. To be with black women. I don't know what the fuck I said. What did I say? Yeah. I think I said it the other way around. I think you told me to be like, yo, stay away from our white women. I think that's how you told me. That's what essentially you would be doing. So I want black men to be with black women. Shout out, Michael B. Jordan. Whoa! No, but still, but Michael B. Jordan is Dr. Umar. Yo, where did Dr. Umar? Oh, that's what I'm gonna do. Black Wives Matter. Why are you wearing the Black Wives Matter shirt? Paying homage to the goat. Paying homage to the goat right there. But seriously, yo. But can we talk about Michael B. Jordan's new milk? Because that shit is, she is on point. Hold on, let me do one treasure announcement. Oh, OK. Wednesday, February, at 7 p.m. to 8 30 p.m., a special one-time in-person event in Brooklyn is myself, Anita Kopex, Tamika D. Mallory. It's an event that the Brooklyn Public Library is doing with Atria Books and Simon and Schuster about my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing. So join us, 7 p.m. to 8 30 p.m., Anita Kopex will be out there signing copies of Sheldon Waters. Tamika Mallory will be out there signing copies of State of Emergency. State of Emergency. I'll be out there signing copies of Black Privilege, the book that started it all, and Shook One's Anxiety, playing tricks on me. And maybe, just maybe, we might have some announcements about some other releases that are coming out on Black Privilege Publishing because this is going to be a busy year for Black Privilege Publishing. We got a couple of releases dropping, so. Black Wives Matter, bro. Yeah, yeah. What can we do? What else is funny? What else is there? That's it! The Black Wives Matter shirt, when they come to you and they say, why you wearing a Black Wives Matter shirt? You say, because I'm paying homage to the goat, Dr. Umar, and I want Black men to be with Black women. Shout out to Michael B. John, but I'm not going to lie. Michael B. Jordan really stepped it up with some fucking milk right here, dude. Why do you think this is a step up? Nah, she don't look better than Lori. She look way better than Lori. I think Lori looks better, but, you know, to each his own. Lori's a beautiful girl. I just feel sorry, and I said this, man. I said that, you know, the way y'all coming at Michael B. Jordan after Lori broke up with him, he was going to run back to the Caucus Mountains, bro. Yo. He was going to run back and find him a little snow to play with. I mean, look at it, bro. You telling me you don't want some of that milk? Nah. She don't do it for me, man. I don't believe you. I don't believe you when I said, when you say that. Nah, this is a different track of white women, but yeah. You saying that girl right there? Nothing. I mean, personally, I mean, she's not ugly about any means. Yeah, we know that. She's a professional model. Oh, she is? Paid for looking good. Oh, yeah. She just, I mean, she don't do it for me. Like, I like, I like, I like melanin, bro, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't get me wrong. Let me see another picture. There we go. That's the only, let me see. There we go. There we go. It don't look factory to you, bro. Like, you know what I mean? These guys are crazy, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Y'all are crazy, crazy hate. That's not it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She's pretty. She's pretty. She a pretty girl. She, what do you mean, pretty white girl? She's just a pretty girl, man. You don't think that's the Kardashian model, bro? I don't see color. I see milk. That is a color. Is it? Is it? Sean Penn did a whole movie about it. Yeah, man. Yo, shout out to Sean Penn. You know what I'm saying? But salute to Michael B. Jordan, man. The B stands for Bunny, you know what I mean? Michael told y'all a long time ago that, you know, he, everything's on the plate. But what type of Bunny, like snow or chocolate Easter? I mean, he goes either way. He said he's, when we had Michael on the breakfast club a long time ago, Michael said, yo, it's all on the table, B. That was the easy part. Mentally kind of going to that lonely place and willing to do whatever it takes to kind of free his people was the, not the most challenging part, you know what I'm saying? But it was a lot of fun, too. What about white women? Did you cut off white women during that time? Oh, man. Why was that go back there? I like women period, all women. Everybody's on the table. OK. Everybody's on the table, man. Everybody's on the table, man. Everybody. Good for him. I'm with him. The world's your oyster. Yes, they, you know what I mean? I was thinking that the other day when I was thinking about, like, I guess bisexual people, like people that date, like, not even just bisexual. I don't know what the word is, but people that date women, men, and, like, trans women and trans men. Breeding? Bro, if you're single, you put all those options. I think it's you. That's you. God did everything he could. God did everything he could to help you get a partner and still nothing, bro. You ain't shit. If you got all those options on the menu and you single, it is you. You suck. You suck. Maybe you don't. That is a problem. Selfish. Selfish ass. You know what I mean? No way. Uh-uh. Oh, man. Salute to Michael B. George. No, salute to Lori Harvey, man. Lori Harvey, they say she's out here with Jampson. And you're being bi and being lonely. You got 7 billion people. But when you got, when you check, when you check up all boxes, when you do men, women, trans men and trans women, that's all the people, bro. That's everybody. 7 billion. There's an option everywhere. Wow. And you can't find nothing. Nah, that's on you, though. Nah. Jampson Idris, Lori Harvey, salute to Lori. I like how Lori is moving out here simply because when we talk equality, you know, people will be like having these conversations about equality and, you know, women that are like, I guess, liberated, sexually liberated, whatever, whatever. Lori's able to do all of this and not get called out her name. Well, we'll see. I haven't seen nobody do it yet. We'll see. They're trying to? I don't know. I don't pay no attention. I don't think the, we'll see. We'll see who, you know, how it ends up. I think that there is a limit to the. What do you mean how it ends up? We know how it's going to end up. I think there's a limit to the amount of, here's the thing. It's one thing to sleep with people. It's another one to do it publicly. And that is the problem with being famous, is that all of your relationships are public. Like, people will go call Kim Kardashian like a hoe and we've only known like five people she's been with. Public. And inform her husband. It's kind of unfair. Inform her husband. Inform her husband, right? Designing the whole behavior. They're girls. They've slept with 40, 50 dudes. Yeah, it's not, yeah. But nobody knows. So I think the reality is, is when more people know how many people you slept with, you become a little bit less desirable. But you know what you're doing right now? I'm just telling you the reality. No, that is the reality, but we don't know if she's sleeping with these people. The assumption is by being with them, you have. That's right. That's ridiculous. And we work off assumptions. To me, that's just, all I see is a young woman out here having fun in these streets. Well, you blind. You know what I mean? You're a blind person. Well, you're a blind person. Is that what you did with your girlfriends? You just walked around in these streets? I'm just saying, how do we know these guys are sleeping with her? I think it's a fair assumption that two consenting adults that have said they're in a relationship are just getting. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Look at it from the guy's perspective. Yeah. Would you wife up a woman? Yeah. That you knew your guys had ran through? Would I personally do that? Yeah, no. So I'm just, I'm just, just a linar, hypothetical here. You know what I mean? This is my theory. All of these guys have conversations with each other. Yeah. How do we know she's not giving it up to none of them? It's all of them are trying. It's very possible that she's not giving up to anyone. This is 100 percent possible. It's also very possible that like the lines get blurred between like love and clout. And I think that when you're in entertainment, there's no, nothing more addictive. There's no drug more addictive than attention. Great point. And dating a very famous woman who has also dated other famous people can give you an immense amount of clout. And that's what I mean. It don't have to be sex involved. It could just be dating. Exactly. Because you know you're going to get this. And it's very hard to like see, like for example, you guys start dating, now there's pictures everywhere. Page six is posting it. Yeah. You actually think that you're more in love than you are because you're getting that positive attention that you crave so much. That's right. So yeah, again, she could be doing absolutely nothing. But there's no way for us to prove that she actually is. But both of them could be getting the thing that they want, which is Klick's eyeball's attention. Yeah, I mean, you're right. And just growing up the way we grew up, we all knew that if one of your boys told you, yo, I hit that, you know what I mean? That another one of your boys be like, yo, I hit that. Yeah. You ain't going to price that. I mean, maybe it's different out here with these guys. And maybe they ain't really boys. Maybe they like Hollywood boys. Like we're friends because we're in a movie together. We're friends because we're in entertainment. That's true too. Are we not real friends? That's true too. I think that's what happens a lot of time in entertainment. It's like the circles are so small that we assume these people are close. We assume they're friends. But they ain't really hanging out like that. And you're right. And I think also too, when it comes to Lori Harvey, it makes a... I mean, didn't we see it with Saweetie? Well, what? Didn't we see it with Saweetie? Weren't there like a few gentlemen that were colleagues of one another that allegedly had intercourse with Saweetie? That's what they say. But you know, with Lori Harvey, I think some women feel better saying that about her. She's a beautiful woman. Yeah, it justifies the fact that they're not dating famous celebrities. Explain. Well, they're gone. Well, yeah, she just, you know, having sex with all these guys. She's a hoe. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's easier to hate on her because, you know, you stuck with some guy you don't even like. That's right. That's right. And what's crazy is you'll talk to the old women who don't look as good as her, who don't have the same amount of success as her. And they'll tell you, I didn't sleep with that dude. I ain't sleep with him. So why does she have to then? Because it's dancing address? No, you would give it up to dancing address. Yeah. Because it's Michael B. Jordan? No, you would give it up to Michael B. Jordan. She might not. That's regular to her? That is true. That's 100% true. I would just caution women, you know, younger women who aren't like in the spotlight to be like, hey, you don't have to share all of your exploits. You don't have to share that because, and I know that you're like, oh, this is unfair, be as guys share it and they get all this value, they get all this cloud out of it. But when girls share it, they're demonized or they're scrutinized. But this changes that, though. Well, I guess what I'm trying to say. Lori different. I think typically about that is like, there are certain things that, you know, are biological impulses and there are certain things that are societal impulses. I think that we have a biological impulse to maybe steer ourselves away from girls that we think have had tons of partners. And it's probably there because that's the only way we can be secure that the kid is ours or something like that. So it's not like, Whoa. Not for real, like, it's not like, it's not like- We get a blood test. You say what? We get a blood test. Yeah, but like, there wasn't blood tests a million years ago when we were using this method. Like blood tests is the last 50 years. Blood feeling. That's it. So the feeling still exists inside us. So it's not like this is society trying to be sexist towards you. This is some shit that has existed for millions of years. And maybe we could talk our way out of it and maybe over the next few hundred thousand years we could move away from it. But right now for a guy to judge that, that ain't my fault. That's a million years of fucking evolution's fault that makes me judge it. So I would just caution young women, don't try to change evolution in your lifetime. If you know that guys have a biological impulse to kind of look down on this and you want to be in a relationship and have a marriage and have children and you know that sharing all that shit could potentially hurt your chances of that. If you wanna do it, that's on you. Just know going into it, you could get here. If you wanna go snowboarding, know getting into it, you could break your ankle or you could break your wrist. Just know the costs of over-sharing this shit. You're right. And that's why I don't- That's not saying don't fuck people. You can fuck as many people as you want. Just don't share them with the fucking world. I don't think she's fucking none of them. Again, maybe she's fucking none of them. But I'm just saying there might be a young girl that sees Lori doing this and goes, oh, that's the way that you get clout. I'm gonna share every rapper that I've been with. The reality is you gain that attention by not sleeping with them. And by the way, that's 100% celebrity. If you're the woman that's hard to get that all these guys have tried to highlight and none of them can say they got it. Oh my God. What do you think a guy wants more? The girl who got ran through by every actor or rapper or the girl that every actor or rapper wanted to be with but she was like, I'm not dealing with some fucking actor or rapper who's just gonna use me. Who do you think the guy would rather make a family with more? Easy answer. There's more. I mean, it's not even a question. It's not an easy answer. So I just hope that young women think like this instead of thinking like the quick clout way which is like I'm gonna share a story of every time I fucking blew a guy on a bus that's gonna get me a hundred fucking thousand views on TikTok. Yeah, it's also gonna have people looking at you crazy. Blowing a celebrity on a bus is crazy. That's wild. You're blowing the wrong celebrity if you're on a bus. You on a bus? I'm not even in an Uber that he paid for. Uber? You blowing on the bus? Even a helicopter. With the little baby fat teen pregnancy jacket on with the fur on it? That baby fat behavior. Oh, he told you he was a dream chaser and you believed. They believed everything. You put a baby fat jacket on a bus she believed everything, bro. I'm gonna get you out the project. Whoa, whoa. There you are. Oh, still. Han Taylor, you got a, can you? Why do you think that all these men aren't like or not even just men just in Hollywood don't they just share women in general? Yes. And when I say share, I'm not saying like, oh, I get her next like not a pass along but I'm just saying it's a small circle. Yeah, this one is sharing and wiping. These guys be looking like this. But they do the same thing with Kim. Like guys want to be just as popping as these girls now. Yeah, but with Kim, here's the thing with Kim. But once again, everybody we talk about with Kim, she was either married to? That's not true. Who, they are in a serious relationship. Who, what's your question? Ray J was her boyfriend? No, but if you watch her show, that's all like when she was single, she was dealing with like a security guard and everything else like that. Kim has been married like four times. I know. She was married before, she married somebody before Chris Humphreys. She married Kanye. She's been married at least three times. She married, yeah. Wait, you don't hate on Kim, y'all. No, no, wait, what do you try to find somebody to have a baby with y'all? But like what you just said though too. What, what, what, what? When it comes to like dating wise, like. I don't think that there's as much scrutiny from women to men about men who have multiple partners. And I imagine that's probably some evolutionary shit too. Like if y'all hated dudes that slept with a lot of girls, we just wouldn't. If you didn't do it, if you didn't sleep with us because we slept with a lot of girls, we wouldn't as simple as that. Like, but the reality is, I think biologically it's not as bothersome to you. I just assume that. Cause y'all assume that men are gonna do that anyway. I also think it's like, yeah, I'm sure there's, if we like look at history and we look at, you know, evolution, it was a way to show status. Like, oh wow, this guy has all these girls. Well, then he must have something that allows him to have all these girls. So it's an indicator of value. Yeah. I'm just saying like, I think a lot of times what happens is like, we chalk up the inconveniences of life to society a lot of times. And sometimes they are societal, right? That, the one you're talking to definitely societal. But, well, no, I think that sometimes it's societal and sometimes it's biological. And I think that anything that's inconvenient to us, we chalk up as societal. We go, well, let's just change that. When in reality, you might be dealing with like a million years of evolution that has us feeling a certain way about this behavior. I know guys that absolutely positively would have wiped certain women, women that we know slept with a lot of the homies, if they didn't feel like they would be getting judged by society. Well, keep another thing in mind. It is the number one worst thing that can happen to a human being is being ostracized by society. That is the most terrifying thing to a human being because for fucking millions of years, if you were ostracized by your society, you died. If you didn't have the group, if you're alone in the fucking jungle, you're dead. So the last thing, that's why people want to agree. That's why people want to be part of the tribe. That's why people want to figure out what the opinions of the group are and appease the opinions of the group. It's very terrifying for a lot of people to say something that goes against the grain because we've been built in a way to go with it. Absolutely. So I think that given that certain situation, it's like if you are with a person that has done a behavior that some people think is... That's gotten around. You know what I mean? Then you're going to be more hesitant to be with that person, despite even having feelings because you're worried about the ostracization. I think if people didn't know, like let's say you wife up a young lady who's not from your state or your hometown. You got it right. But she tells you her body count. You just stay out of the city, she's from. Exactly, then you don't see nothing. You wife in Missouri. That's it. And also, if you're that girl, keep your business to yourself. That's right. And by the way... I ain't ask you. To your point, women will do that. To your point, women will do that. If a woman knows she used to be popping that thing somewhere, or she was a stripper somewhere, keep that shit to yourself. Keep that shit to yourself. Nope. I hate Miami. Why? The weather. The humidity. No. No, no, no. Why? Keep that shit to yourself. But smooth everybody living their life like it's golden, man. Do you, man? I'm married, I don't care. Iggy Azalea's OnlyFans earns $307,000 in 24 hours. How much of that do we think came from Michael B. Jordan? Well, you can't let Michael B. Jordan be great with his fucking prime milk, bro. This guy, right? Yo, Iggy Azalea. Iggy Azalea making 300K. Is that a lot? In 24 hours? Yes, you rich bastard. No, I mean this like... Okay, how much you think Beyonce would get if she dropped an OnlyFans? Come on, man. Come on, man. Yeah, come on, come on, why? I know we're comparing apples to oranges. Come on, man. But, oh, are these the videos? Well, that's big, eh? Oh, she got some birthday. She got some birthday. Yo, yo, yo. Yeah! Yo, she does. But she does, though. Look at that. But it's gotta be more than that. You said what? That's Iggy? I mean, it's got us. You know, pretty quiet. I mean, yeah. It's 25 hours of pop. 25 hours is a lot just for some ass shaking, man. That's what right there, too? Nah. Oh. Listen, man, smooth to her, man. Listen, I don't know what's on OnlyFans. I've never been on there, but if people are paying to see you and you can make $300,000 in a day? Why do you not? Some people would never make $300,000 in their life. No, listen, I guess I'm like, I don't know, the rumor was Bad Bunny or whatever. Yeah, so it was like Bad Bunny, you know who she was, catch me outside, girl. She made a million dollars in like a few hours. I don't believe that. Bad Barbie. I don't believe that. Bad baby, bad baby. No, dead ass, she did. They got receipts. She made over like something crazy, 20 million, 50 million on fucking OnlyFans. It's nuts. Now it's a bunch of creeps because they were basically counting down until she turned 18 to make it live or whatever. What? Yeah, it was disgusting, but still it's like... Did Iggy promote her OnlyFans drop? I don't know. Because we're hearing about this after the fact. I don't know, man, whether you make a million in six hours or 300,000 in 24 hours, man, that's a win. That's Big Iggy, all right? Okay, Iggy. Oh, see, now you have phantom milk. Now that lactose intolerance... Iggy, look better than the woman Michael B. Jordan with? No, I know, I know. But I'm just saying, you used to complain about the lactose. No, I don't. I think that... Now you out here. There are pretty white women out there, you know what I'm saying? But that Iggy, look better than Michael B. Jordan's wife? Oh, girl. Why? She just looked better than me. I don't know. No, it ain't because of the ass. I don't know if the other woman got ass or not. She just looked better than me. She's a better looking human. She looked like Nicki Minaj a bit. Isn't that interesting? You think Iggy Azalea looks like Nicki Minaj? Yeah, I mean, if you actually... Look at the video, watch. In the beginning of the video, it's gonna replay right now. And wait, look, watch. You think she's moving like Nicki? No, I think that... Do you think they physically look alike? I think that they maybe both went to the same guy. And that guy has a style. This guy is so crazy. I mean that. I mean, like artists have styles, right? So like, what if the plastic surgeon has a style? So, look, do you want to get dropped with some new music? That's what the Screech really wanted, though. Do they? All right. You know what I mean? Like, do they or do they want the nudes? You know what I mean? Like, if she dropped that album, she ain't selling $300,000 worth of copies in day one. Like, let's just keep it a bump. Oh, this guy is a little crazy. Little TJ arrested for gun possession. I don't understand why. I don't understand how come people just don't hire armed security, especially in New York City. There's so many off-duty police officers. Yeah. So many police officers who are retired that will hold that down for you. They have legitimate services. They are licensed. They are insured. There's absolutely no reason for you to be running around holding your own pistol. Is he like part of a gang? And like, they can't hire cops because that gets looked at as like... Yeah, we still doing that? We still the generation that's screaming no security? Like, that's insane to me. Like, if you are worth something, protect it. And you protect it by having armed security. But then you can't claim thug. Yes, you can. Why not? Why? By the way, why you still want to claim thug? That's how you get recall charges. But I thought that's what the fuck is going on. What? Like, I thought there's gangster dudes who are like, yo, we can't hire the police because you can't be rapping about how horrible the cops are and then you hiring them. I think you can. I mean, you can, but it's fraudulent. But if you're being specific about a system and things that police do, that's one thing, you know what I mean? But then your ops are gonna go, yo, you hired the cops. Like, what'd they say about Takashi? The first thing they said when he was going around Chicago, they're like, you hire police. Look at this. Who doesn't hire a police when they go to Chicago? Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? I'm just saying, this is one of the... I'm with you. You know, this is one of the troubling things about being a gangster. Or being a rapper. Or being a rapper. That's the sad part. The lines are blurred for no reason. You rap, bro. Go rap. Go make money doing shows. Yeah. I don't care about this gangsta shit. Is he affiliated with any gang? I have no idea. I just know that there's no reason whatsoever. He just got shot, what, six times? Seven times? So I might understand the trauma that may come with that. The handgun was found inside the car during a search. So it's probably his car, so he's responsible, but maybe one of his boys is essentially there to take the rap in the event that they go search the car. If that's the case, he wouldn't have got arrested. But if it's his car, the gun's in the car? Nope. If the gun's in the car, even if it's your car, if somebody says, no, that's mine, that's who gets... Really? Yeah. No, I don't think... Well, maybe he got to tell his boy, remind his boy what his position is, and to play that. You know what I'm saying? Like, isn't that the job from the homies a little bit? Listen, if it's your gun, that's your only job is to be held accountable for your shit. There we go. You know what I'm saying? I don't want you to take that charge. You know what I mean? Yeah, if somebody shoots at you and you shoot them back, but the gun that you got is illegal, do you also go to jail? Or... I don't know. You do? Ain't that great? You can't even defend yourself. Get a legal gun, get a legal firearm. But I thought New York, that's like almost impossible. I think the law's relaxing a little bit. I've been hearing stories. I don't know if I want that shit. New York is too stressful for there to be guns, motherfuckers step on your sneakers and then... Well, they got to go back to the way it was then. Which is? Like, no tolerance for it. Yeah, I like that. I like that. No tolerance for guns. I like guns in the suburbs. You might need a gun in the suburbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But in the city, where there's a cop on every fucking corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you need a gun in the city, you up to some wild shit. Yeah, there used to be a time in New York with a whole lot safer. You know what I'm saying? When I first moved up here in like 06, certain shit that is happening now, like in Times Square and stuff, you wouldn't see that shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Now it's like shit. I don't know. Who packing? You want to do some asking idiots, Taylor? Well, that's... K Monument? What, MLK Monument? Oh, and they did the embrace. They did a monument. I think that y'all need to get y'all mind out the gutter because I ain't even think of that being a dick till I saw all the memes. Oh, there was... I didn't think it was dick. I didn't know what it was. You know what I mean? But I didn't think it was penis until all of y'all started freaking... You know the big black guy that's sitting on the bed with his dick hanging? They put the monument on him. Yeah. You know what I mean? They got the white cop who got a train ran on her by all the other police officers. They got her hole in this shit. I didn't even think about that. It looks like a heart. It does look like a heart. It looks like a heart. I don't think it's bad at all. And everybody's talking about it. What I think that's bad about it is like, I don't know that's Martin and Coretta unless somebody tells me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, give me Martin and Coretta's head. Pause. Ha. Yo, man, I really can't believe that you don't like Michael B. Jordan's new milk, man. I don't see it. You don't think she's grippy? I mean, that ain't no upgrade for Lori. But do you think that she got that grip master three down? Oh, no, Griffey is. What is grippy? You don't think that she... I'm married, bro. What is grippy? You don't think that she got the, you know, the grip that stole Christmas, bro? What, because you got like a little greenish shoe? No. I'm just saying. She you don't think she's grippy You mean like the snatch Yeah, she got the grip thinking about her like that. I'm just saying do you think she got the grip master? Do you think she's blood or grip? What do you think What do you think she is? Come on, bro. He's calling her the grip repo for the grip reaper, bro She is she's a grip Bay Packers quarterback Well, I grippy pink What do you think? Calling her Scotty gripping Wow, wow Scotty gripping, wow, she might be Scotty gripping That's all I'm saying. We don't know what Michael B. Jordan is going through right now. He really might be going through a situation He really might be going through a situation I hope he gets a grip on this situation. If he doesn't I know somebody who will You know, I got a feeling I got a feeling I know somebody who just might get a grip on it Oh Come on Let's do some ask a grippy. It's right now grippy it's Taylor. Oh When is the official launch of beer and it is I can't wait mr. White of QB soon as the studio built come on when the studio I can't three months. That's right When the two studios built we will officially launch birney is how far we were from the new studio being built. I Give it. I give it a month a month. I think I give it a month Yeah We got designs in and everything like that Uh, what's the oh, let me see that scroll up Lj hablet check says I like what shawlamay said about mainstream media last pod. How do you change the data? I don't remember what I said about mainstream media So just I'm sure I explained it. I would think I don't know Uh, jco says, what are the some of the things that you're glad didn't work out for you? Oh, it's a good one shows That I'm glad didn't work out for me. What's her name? Yeah, all of them All of them except for the white exactly. I'm glad all of them didn't work out. So I'm here right now like 100% You know, yeah, yeah yeah Oh just in general Oh, I'm glad that there was like, you know certain shows I was going out for before I decided to like go all in on youtube I'm glad that didn't happen. I'm glad that I never got any like, uh, you know Early on in my career because then I would have never pursued, you know, comedy on social media youtube, etc So I'm glad that all those doors were closed to me. So I could have developed this other way of doing things It's giving me so much more freedom shout out to the grips This is a weird Question It's not a weird question. Maybe the way I'm processing it and it's different Yeah, if somebody would have asked me this five years ago, my answer would probably have been different But what I'm realizing the older I get is Everything has worked out for me. Exactly. There's nothing that What's for you will not go by you That's right. So everything that has happened that I guess you say didn't work out It it was the universe inspiring for my greater good. Yes when I say every single thing every single thing So it's like, I you know, I don't even look at it as What didn't work out for me? I everything has worked out. Yes, you know DVR 94 What do you guys think has contributed to your longevity in the podcast media world? I like questions like this and I'm gonna tell you why I salute our guy loony loony He tells me he talks to you, you know loony, right? From the it's up there podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like loony because loony, you know, he um He talks to me a lot about well, he talks a lot about wanting information and he goes to a lot of different Podcasts radio personalities people that are in the space that you know He desires to be in and he asked questions and that's how I am You know what I mean when I want to be in a space I go ask questions, you know And I think that I don't know I know you do. I don't know if I do a good enough job of Giving out information. I think you're very generous. I just think it's getting access to you But I don't think you've ever like withheld information Definitely not with me whenever I've asked you things but like maybe I don't do enough of it here on the microphone No, I think you do more here than one on one because there's not as many opportunities for you to one on one Do that with true, but I think you give away game all the time over here Huge part of this podcast. I think is giving away game. Yeah, you're right. You know, you're you're right The problem nowadays is nobody listens to the people who are actually doing it You rather people would rather listen to the person Telling you how to get things done when they themselves haven't even done what the fuck they telling you that you can Yeah, you got to pick the advisors pick the mentors. Yeah Like just because some shit sound good don't mean that it is good You know, I mean, I guess so many people out here getting paid Literally to tell you how to do things they haven't even done. That's why I know for a fact the next wave of like, um Experts are going to be the people who Can't just talk about it, but they've done it. They got to have done it They got to be living it in the moment And that's what seems to be like a lot of people blowing up on instagram right now are Our guys who became You know, like, uh, I don't want to call them influencers. What are these people called coaches the coaches life coaches? But they're people who have made like a hundred million dollars already Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's and then that that access that you now have to those people who've already sold a company That's right 200 million. It's like, oh, wow. Yeah, I'd like to know how you did these things I don't want to talk to somebody who has googled some shit and it's just regurgitating what they Google are regurgitating what they read in a book. Yeah, like tell me how you made 200 million boom And show me like I'm excited like that show me if you are if you got the company right now Are you sold the company? I want to I'm all ears for that Yeah, there's this dude who there's a clip keeps on go viral tick-tock and it's basically like listen I've asked five billionaires and a bunch of people worth, you know millions of dollars I asked them the number one uh piece of advice to the number one thing that you can do the number one Decision that you made to access this type of wealth and he said literally every single one of them said the number one Most important decision that you'll make in your life is your wife Oh, absolutely because that person's gonna build you up to that amount That person's gonna tear you the fuck that's right So it was really cool to see all those people and i'm sure some of those people had made a bad decision with their wife Early in their life and then corrected that one and then saw what a good person's supporting you can do but 100 percent I thought that was really interesting piece of advice that is business advice that has nothing to do with business I think it has everything to do with business because it's about stability You know, I mean directly or 100 but I think that is a big piece of business that we don't talk about enough Which is stability. Yep. You know what i'm saying like I saw the change in view as a businessman entrepreneur over the years And i've seen the change in you as a businessman entrepreneur since you've been married Yeah, for sure. You know, I mean the focus is different 100 it's something about having a level of stability where you can just You know Go home and know that you got a foundation that you're building on like that is the different So you're also your brain is not dedicating time to chase and pussy And that is an exhausting task looking at fucking dating apps all day See if you're gonna meet some waiting to see if somebody texts you back Or are they gonna take you back all you're preparing for some date trying to focus tail is no focus She can't even turn off the ringer on her phone Unbelievable because she's waiting to get that text back from that guy. That's right. Okay, that's right That ship will be so distracting Being able to take that 50 percent of your mental energy back during the day and also like 50 percent Isn't and i'm not being exaggerated. That's an accurate number for a single dude trying to meet girls 50 percent of their mental Yo, you think more yes So imagine that 80 percent of your mental energy is now back to you being creative back to you I mean Yeah, I mean obviously you're gonna have to dedicate some of that to your wife, of course But what i'm saying it's back to you creating things is back to you working It's back to doing all these things you it's you're unstoppable inspiration is different jay-z had a song Called the power of the p u s s y and he's like the power of the p u s s y that's what makes god get fly You know what i mean like a lot of things that men do are for women We talked about a story uh this morning the guy darrius miles who played for the university alabama, you know Got arrested for capital murder him and his friend Um shot a young lady because the young lady didn't want to highlight him, right? That's what the young lady's mother said, right? And it made me think about man when we were young and we got rejected rejection just made us want to be successful You know i'm saying rejection just made me be like i'm gonna put myself in a position where you know You're gonna regret telling me no because i'm gonna be that guy Yeah, you know i'm saying like if you watch the social network movie Mark Zuckerberg built facebook off a rejection off a rejection Yeah, i mean mike jones made a whole song about it back then they didn't want me now i'm hot day all on me Yeah, and it's just like yo damn what what what has gotten into these people let it be your fuel Let it be your fuel. How have we gotten to the point where rejection motivates you to murder is the male ego that fragile Yes, it is a lot of them. Yeah, yeah, it's fucked up brothers need therapy. Please Yeah, that's how i just go sit with the therapist do some work on yourself because You know i come from the era of you got rejected Now i'm a i'm a grind it out and i'm gonna end up being that dude You know i'm saying so yeah, i feel so hopefully you'll want me in the future because i'm I feel like we're detached from like what younger dudes are going through right now. I think that like Like i got out i got out of the online dating game and the dating game right at the peak like when i was I was kind of popping a little bit Like i had a little cloud or whatever like that and then i'm fortunate to meet my wife I'm out the game, but before that My life as someone who had cloud and had like fans and had people DM it My dating life was not that dissimilar to some of my friends who had zero clouds at all Think about that. Yeah, like I got my friends who have no cloud at all no fame They fucking have three some four some's like they just swipe it left to right. Everybody's going after it. It was crazy So this was like the early days where online dating first enters the conversation I've been thinking about this a lot and why and I see a lot of frustration with young people right now And the reason why I wasn't relating to it is because it's completely changed from those days Right, isn't it the easiest time to get late? That's the perception that we have and why we don't have any empathy for and why We don't understand it. Here's the thing so You had a time where online dating pops up and then men and women Can contact each other with privacy So now we talk about that shame thing girls can go to a guy's house None of their friends know if it goes well, they like it They could fuck that dude then they could stop fucking them at none of their friends No, there's no shame none their community knows nobody knows and it became a little bit of a meat market Now obviously girls were upset about that because they're just being used Dudes are fucking loving it because they're just swiping left come over We'll have a fucking beer then you have sex and then it's on right. It was amazing for dudes Here's the difference and this is what the internet does it always fucking disrupts What happened was back in a day for a girl To date a rapper a basketball player an athlete You needed some shamelessness You needed to find out their hotel Stalk their table at the club Like you be outside the game waving at him not throwing your panties on stage Yeah, like you need to be like your breath and like like a quality woman isn't going to be that shameless, right? So the access that famous people had to women we thought it was that it was crazy But it really wasn't that crazy They had access to the shameless ones and then maybe the ones that they maybe bumped into but that was it So you had the groupies and then that's it and groupies didn't really get love outside of getting smashed and nothing They weren't becoming famous or nothing, right? So now with the internet and social media are on dating apps all of a sudden famous people Have access to every single girl in the world Through a dm so now regular dudes Are competing with famous people for the same girls that they never competed with them before Because those women weren't shameless enough to just wait outside their fucking hotel hoping to get chosen So what happened was initially when the when the online data came out everybody was dating whatever And I think how a transition is women are going well If i'm just gonna like go over to a guy's house and have sex Am I gonna do it with the guy who's the barista at the coffee shop? Or am I gonna get Meat marketed by the fucking point guard for the Lakers Well, shit. I'd much rather go to the Lakers house. He got a c Yeah, you know which i'm sure leads to a lot of guys lying about what they're doing with in life and a lot of frustration for the average dude and an inflated maybe sense of um I don't want to say it's not about self-worth, but inflated sentiment entitlement or opportunity for those girls, right? And all of a sudden if those girls are getting dms from all these famous people and then a regular dude's talking to them They might be like, I don't know. I'm like, my life is about famous people My life ain't about regular dudes Then they might hit an older age and start realizing. Oh, these guys were all using me. It was meat market Maybe I should give some love and give some, you know Opportunity to another guy that I might be able to but I think the the game right now Is in complete disarray And it's because of of that access So I understand the frustration of these young people and I understand where they're going But I also completely understand what women are going through which is like Oh, why would I not think that I'm going to end up with an entertainer when my dms are completely filled with entertainers? Yeah, like why would they not think that how could you not have empathy if you're if you're if you're a dm full of blue checks Then why would you not think that that's who you're going to marry me with I get it? I get it You know, so it makes it hard for the regular guy. What you're saying. I I can understand regular guys frustration I didn't see this at first because when I was leaving the game My boys who had no cloud at all weren't famous at all had a way crazier sex life than me and I'm like, oh, shit That's it. We figured it out. Everything's fine You don't even need to be famous to get laid and I think that that is Transitioned a bit now and you're seeing a little bit more frustration From men and I think that's why like the red pill community the man is fear has grown so much And I didn't understand it very fragile community though Yes, of course because listen anytime you see dudes hating women is because they're not getting pussy Is it you there's impossible to hate women and get pussy at the same time and and they know their frauds Because if if if the reality is you know, these women are being pursued by these guys who actually have something You know what I mean? No matter how much you front on social media, you know, you live with your mom in the basement But even if the young lady does want to come over where you gonna take Yeah, you know me how you gonna convince her to come to this hotel when you just lied to her about having your own Place and everything else. Yeah, you know, I think it's it's just a time thing I think it's like pendulum swinging, right? So the pendulum swung to one direction where like it was meat market Everybody was getting laid and girls just going to random dudes houses and fucking them And it was the easiest time in history to get laid So the pendulum swung over here and now we're seeing the pendulum swing all the way over here Where it's like, oh girls have all these opportunities to be with these famous celebrities, etc So they're not giving the regular dudes a look eventually they're going to realize that these people over here It's not fruitful. They're getting meat marketed They just there for there's there to get laid and they're not really building relationships So eventually the pendulum starts to swing back and that's a time thing But in this current state You can't falter to women who are seeing all this attention from these dudes that are very successful and wealthy You can't fault them for thinking that's who they're gonna be with and you can't really fault the dudes for feeling They're not getting any love on these apps anymore. They're gonna be frustrated Yeah, just don't look that frustration turn into murder. Well, that's what fucking because lord have mercy I'm seeing so much of that nowadays guys getting rejected and then they get violent against the woman and yeah killer or hurt her It's just like bro. Let that rejection motivate you to actually Do something with your life. There's only one thing that makes men angry. It's not getting pussy every up Like if you see an angry dude, he's just ain't getting pussy He could be angry about traffic. He ain't even angry about traffic. Well, if you just got to dick suck traffic It's fine. Well, that's why I say I was gonna say a nut That's it. You just need you're not you might be you might be a guy who Gay but you're in the closet So you can't get what you really want, you know what I'm saying And that right there cause it might cause frustration that might cause frustration exactly But like at least getting that off getting that accepted I'm it's hard To get laid and be angry in the same day. Whoo. That is all a difficult thing So if you see frustration for me, he just ain't got no pussy It's really what comes down to This guy faking Lyme disease for fucking 10 years I know He's faking Lyme disease for 10 years, bro. You just need a bussing nut dude. That's it. Is it Jesus Christ Chris What's that? I don't think Chris just said so Stalin's problem is he wasn't getting pussy Hillers problem was he wasn't getting pussy Didn't they say Hitler had a little dick or something? Yeah, like a goat bit off his testicle or some shit He had one ball. He had one ball or some shit. We don't know what was up with Stalin, but Man, I thought a funny also also you have to carve out Psychopaths. Yeah, psychopaths are just psychopaths. They don't feel anything. Anyway, we're talking about people who actually have feelings And those feelings are causing them to behave in a certain way I'm not saying and we're talking about people who were violent The people were talking about specifically this guy Darius Miles was violent because he got rejected by a woman Boom. I'm exactly now. Let's talk about you walking down the street You bump shoulders with somebody right if that guy wants to start a fight off a bump and he ain't get no pussy But if that guy goes if you go my bad, he goes, no, that's all good He gets pussy could be trying to get home again Why am I fighting when I could go get some pussy? I'ma fight you get shot Maybe get killed or get shot and immobilized. Now. I can't go home and get no And now now now that guy who's like but I'm worried about what my friends think if he was getting tons of pussy That's all your friends thinking about come on man You know what I mean? Come on, man. Yeah, come on. Come on. Simple as that Stop But god bless all the women out there man protect yourselves man because I don't I agree with a lot of the stuff shoulder just said and I really don't know what the fuck is going on Out here what these guys are literally killing people because of rejection. That is insane to me And then he was in he was in college playing basketball He had a future Like it's not like he was just some bum dude with no future Who you know got rejected and when you get rejected now all your other traumas that you haven't dealt with and the fact that you're a Loser who's not doing that with your life. You know what I mean? That's a psychopath god damn if you're playing basketball in college and you're carrying a gun like something's wrong Something's wrong But I'ma say allegedly because it was him and another person We don't know the whole story yet, you know, but he is charged with capital murder and the uh The the the boyfriend who was an eyewitness who actually shot back at them. That's what he he said what happened Oh, yeah, then the mother on facebook said what happened to so oh, so there might be more to this story because their boyfriend was with her Well, yeah, yeah, the boyfriend was with uh a girl. Yeah, so I yeah, he's hitting on a girl who got a boyfriend Yeah, and the boyfriend was there, you know what I mean? So I don't know where the boyfriend was in that moment So was it possible he was shooting at the dude and then hit the girl. That's what I was thinking Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking that seems a little bit more realistic. That's what I was thinking But either way it's still stupid Still fucking stupid, bro. Yeah, um, I think we did it Yo, we figured out everything man. As always. That's what we do babies on a regular basis. That's what we do Oh my god, but nothing as always if you listen to this podcast you think we're smart you think we're intelligent You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit You're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast