 all right we're live yeah yay all right so do you guys want to just start off by saying something while I do my you know how I get like everything set up yeah dog you chose this squeak your toy at the wrong time get out yeah basically there's just a lot of news that that's happened this week there's lots to really report and cover so especially after last weekend where there really wasn't much to even talk about exactly last week was like extremely dead this week it's like action packed and it's like almost like everything about it is so click-baity I think we have so all right what do you guys think about E3 so far oh I haven't been watching that why didn't I do that I haven't seen that idea why do you guys go live now I'm trying to watch the new trailer for the new fallout 76 oh my god okay let's just get it right off to the start so obviously Jake Paul and Carolyn's had a bit of a kerfuffle you're not actually showing anything Brendan yeah oh my god I'm on screen sharing Wow round of applause and currently a board of amusement insiders screen-sharing we are currently experiencing it we are currently experiencing a temporary delay am I showing something now you sure you are all right so now that we reset we set our test cycle out Jake Paul and Carolyn's had a bit of a kerfuffle from what I understand and I think fluffy knows a little more than me so I'll ask him after it looks like Jake Paul and his friends kind of just like a bunch of things we're doing a bunch of stuff causing a huge scene fluffy do you want to add on to that what happened hold on I'm getting the thing I'm getting the report up but essentially it would they I guess what happened was they were jumping around on strollers and everything and just like like they were hopping around on scooters doing tricks and everything and then and yeah basically basically just happened from there and we'll see what happens from here so I I read they got kicked out I read that part when I was searching for these pics so is this gonna happen more often with YouTube being such a huge thing now and people having to do such extra things to get views like I feel like this is almost gonna be the new norm soon so like do theme parks have to eventually kind of like just shrug it off I read it and it didn't sound that bad like it sound bad but it didn't sound that bad one time thing and yeah I feel like a lot more parts of stuff like that happens parks are gonna be like okay we're banning filming at some point but I don't think it's getting to that at all yet I mean he's only he's only being sued almost two million dollars from from prior incidents my question is was anything damaged that was park property in this or well I mean the scooters are definitely being mishandled for sure well yeah you can tell in that picture but like oh my god Anton news get off my screen does anyone have anything else to say about this I mean we all I feel like we all think this I feel like it's gonna give a bad view towards youtubers at theme parks you know what I mean we're already starting to get such a bad view I mean my camera and people look at me like I'm instantly getting something bad literally have the same thing on Saturday but I'll save that for discord discussions then yeah same thing with today for me personally but that's another story overall I just really think that at a certain point of time the impact we gonna have to put their foot down and say like hey like we know you're a big channel but like you know at the same time you're on our property and like you know like do something about it and like don't just let it go on because if they're able to get away with it the more youtubers are gonna be like oh well we can get away with the same thing too and then we see this more frequently and then this is what leads to people who are innocent and not doing anything not be able to film inside the parks so you can't hear your phone anywhere universal rides I make a point of holding my camera down now whenever I'm at Wonderland like when I'm not filming a ride my cameras pointed at the ground just for people's comfort hmm did he go on a fury oh my god I knew that was a good one that was a good one like even just standing there recording rides or whatever people still looked at me the wrong way the other day so yeah well then I'm well like cga must be a great park is that doesn't happen to me lucky all right I guess yeah I mean I did have this okay so this is I'm gonna be an ongoing discussion with amusement inside I think you talked about this a little bit before just a little bit are you sure just a little bit well yeah talking about just this word I'm talking about in a video yes yes so I wanted to now that we have a group of people because one thing I was doing with youtubers so as amusement I make most of the videos and I spit out my opinions and people either like them or don't like them I like bringing up this discussion as a group because then you guys get to share your opinions and then people get a broader like perspective of what other people are thinking about what's going on it for example so at Cedar Point so everyone knows that I think it's going to be a flyer so I'm not gonna talk about my opinions here I want to hear what you guys think what do you guys honestly think Cedar Points gonna get in 2020 well I think they I think they have two main possibilities that everyone can kind of agree on somehow and I think the two possibilities are a GCI or a flyer personally for me I could see either or I think they I feel like I could potentially see them going with the B&M flyer just because of the one that's most well known is Six Flags Magic Mountain which is also Cedar Points competitor and I'm thinking that they might want to beat them and so they give them you know that's really huge B&M flyer give it like the most inversions the longest the tallest the fastest you know break all of the like the Cedar Point records and what I mean by Cedar Point records is where they break the tallest fastest longest and all that stuff yeah I also could see them going with the GCI though because they don't have they only wouldn't consider that they have right now is Blue Streak and that's more of a moderate not as thrilling wooden coaster and they used to have Mean Streak which was a large wooden coaster but you know obviously that was a move for Steel Vengeance which is an amazing coaster by the way so giving the park a GCI would give them another great wooden coaster to add to their collection so really I could see either or but I'm kind of going with the B&M flyer more. I hear a lot of people talking about with a new coaster at Cedar Point is everyone saying polar coaster I don't think that's going to go in the park if Cedar Point gets something like that I feel like it'll be an external thing to the park yeah I said the same thing I remember that conversation off the peninsula as part of a resort yeah kind of make international drive a thing in Sandusky international drive Florida bring it down here almost but if I was to pick between these two options I think I'd be leaning more towards the flyer it seems more like Cedar Point's type of coaster if you know what I mean and the records are so easy to beat with that yeah yeah what about you Buffy um yeah it's honestly either going to be a GCI or a B&M flyer but something that could be a possibility I'm not saying that it's good it's like oh no it has a very low but it could there could be a possibility of it being an RMCT Rex I mean that's not what I thought you were going to say you know that's not that's not outrageous yeah I can see that yeah it would be obviously because obviously I think that's around the timeframe that they're trying to accomplish for an RMCT Rex and the first of its kind like the first RMCT Rex ever yeah it would be a great accomplishment to get from there from the old coaster from the like their very first ever all the way to something modern a single rail coaster and I really think that that's something that it could it could there's a possibility who knows okay awesome I'm gonna read a couple of comments from people just because a lot of people are getting involved in the discussion and then we can discuss it so gravity group wooden coaster that goes out onto the beach that sounds fantastic I'll go over all of them and then you guys flyer seems likely but I'm digging Austin's idea above so again the the gravity group world large world's largest shuttle wooden coaster switchback and STD oh Zed TDs oh my god ox what a kerfuffle this whole thing's a kerfuffle um I think I think the gravity group is really interesting I can see I can see a gravity group or GCI I don't see gravity group at all well yeah honestly I think that if they wanted a gravity group they want something they want a big gravity group because most gravity groups now there's they're very small yeah like especially like all the recent ones I mean GCI's they're they can go even higher they're faster they got they're more intense so I think that if I had to choose between GCI or gravity group it would most likely be GCI because I think something I mean it depends what kind of coaster they they actually want to look for though yeah so adding one to the GCI versus gravity group if we had to choose between those two based off of recent history I probably see GCI because we've seen Cedar Fair worked with GCI often we've seen renegade gold striker anonymous timbers we've seen them always working with GCI but we haven't really seen gravity group too much so if they were to go with the wooden coaster to your point I think they'd most likely go with gravity groups and say Cedar Fair as a whole chain has had past history with GCI so sure and and to be honest all three of those GCI coasters are phenomenal yeah all right bias oh my god all right here okay oh my god Brendan I watched it I watched it and it looks amazing it looks so much better than gatekeeper not to offend any Cedar Point fanboy but it looks like it has some good momentum to it so at this point it's made its first test run yeah yeah we're showing okay well yeah it's probably made a couple but yeah they released some footage of their first test run it looked phenomenal I this coaster looks stunning and it made me kind of wish that wonderland was getting a wing coaster again yeah I don't I don't like wing coasters I'm sorry I love them just because you've only ran gatekeeper doesn't mean you'll hate all them I'll save that for people rooting me out in discord because I don't feel like getting reamed out right does anyone have anything to really say about this project I mean it's so far away from home it looks awesome I'm not trying to insult the ride by moving on so quickly but it's just kind of like are any of us gonna really go ride this anytime soon right I think I can travel yeah I think that Phoenix looks like a really good wing coaster what I say it's the best coaster based off of solely looks because when you ride a coaster it's always different than when you view it based off of looks it actually looks like a pretty decent wing coaster it looks like it has decent forces and that airtime moment seems like it actually might give airtime unlike gatekeeper um do I think it's the best no do I think it's better than most yes awesome airtime well we'll save that for a little bit yeah these all right let's speed these dispatches up and on to the next one okay this is a good one oh track is on site track is on site for white cyclone in yeah this so let's talk about this a little bit so first of all the track is blue which goes with that whole blue whale sign they had up and then also on top of it what do you guys think do you think we're gonna lose some of the structure or do you think they're gonna build one of the biggest RMCs ever built and we're definitely losing a little bit of structure I'm not saying like a whole half of it or just even a quarter of it I'm just saying they're gonna make it a bit smaller they might even add some stuff on as well but but hashtag blue whale cyclone for the win I feel like a lot of the structure has already been taken down though I'm talking about the helix yep like at least half or even three quarters of it by now is gone yeah so are they just using the footers and rebuilding the structure from the ground there are they not gonna use it at all we don't know we don't know you um my thoughts on the entire white cyclone is I I don't know what Nakashima Spalan have in mind but if they really wanted to make this like the Beth Coaster in the world I feel like they'd try and use as much of the structure as they can like this is only one example and you know this isn't confirmed but take 2000 like the year 2000 for example they built Millennium Force and then Nakashima Spalan ended up building Steeljag in 2000 which was supposed to one up Millennium Force so if they if they have that same mind set in the sense that they wanted to beat Cedar Point like like Cedar Point's records then they probably use most of the structure now granted this is just one example so they might you know lose structure but I think if they wanted to make this the best that they could and I've seen some layout on no limits to and things like that if they really wanted to make this the best that they could they could use a lot of the structure and even going with what Fluffy said maybe adding a bit a little bit more you know they can make this like a really amazing ride that possibly could be better than steel vengeance if they really did the layout well I don't know honestly I feel like it could be the Japanese steel vengeance or it could not be it's very hard to tell at this point like there's been no predictions that I've seen personally that I found to be realistic enough and there's like not much information about the ride that we know of other than the tracks on site it's pretty much starting with how steel vengeance did basically and yeah I just don't see it I think that a lot of the structures gonna be removed and I think it's gonna be shorter it's wait like I don't know like Asian parks tend to do extremely well money wise so who really knows I mean they definitely have the money to do whatever they really want they're on a full another level compared to a North American parks yeah I mean we're seeing we're good I think because we also have RMC Robin Hood which isn't also going to be another international RMC so I think we because we're so already we're gonna be seeing two international RMCs in 2019 so how many more how many more RMCs do you think we could possibly see international international in 2019 god only knows at this point wait guys I just realized something oh this is opening in 2019 right yeah there's no way it's gonna be bigger than steel vengeance right still there's no way there's no way yeah there's no way true they haven't even started not even done taking the structure down 11 or 12 months to put the track out on steel vengeance it took them like two years so to build like it up again yeah but yeah there's no way I mean I would be shocked if they got it done but yeah just the math and all that I think that the right that it is mm-hmm I agree with KWS KW 6s theater I think 2019 is gonna be the biggest year for coasters it's gonna be even bigger than 2018 for sure I mean look at you know look at North America you're saying a dive coaster a matte coaster in North America which is huge not a small Mac either and we're seeing other small additions well not smaller but we're seeing other bigger additions and then we're seeing international RMCs white cyclone Robin Hood and you know we're not even at August yet in September so every part haven't even announced what they're getting and it already seems huge you know from what we from what we personally already know so you know 2018 definitely is a huge year and all these comments I'm agreeing with all of them like you know no matter what RMC does of this project it's gonna be amazing yes just put RMCs everywhere and inverted when coaster would be cool I don't know if the track can handle that much stress but I mean engineers can do whatever the ever they put their minds to these days so who knows and then I'm trying to read all these comments there's so many there's a lot of people watching right now just remember that sale vengeance was a slow project they didn't want anyone to know the layout that's true also yeah that's true wolf cedar point does is known for severe weather so that could have also been why a lot of rumors to the weather does turn on a dime there so all right moving on all right this is gonna be a continuous conversation though so yeah fluffy so fluffy's home park is CGA so fluffy is gonna go he's gonna release the review I believe but fluffy tell us about your experience on railblazer in a short form I guess all right airtime boy one of the best airtime filled coasters if not the most airtime filled coaster in California do not at me this is true at fluffy the best this coaster gives amazing ejector no matter what row you're in there's a lot of whiplash and everything and it's not it's not even bad whiplash it's great whiplash um like you it's such an intense ride I have yet to grayed out on it but there are two parts where you can actually gray out it may be short like flight deck but is a certainly intense ride just like like that as well and I would say that it actually has it's actually the number one coaster I gray America oh so you're welcome but yeah so basically railblazer opened yesterday for season pass orders and we'll be keep on going to Wednesday night and then media and then I'm not supposed to say that but but the actual opening date is on Thursday June 14th so just prepare yourself be sure to ride it because you do not want to miss out trust me you don't want to miss out and yeah more coming soon on that I mean it's a gorgeous ride too I haven't been on it so I'm not gonna share too much but it looks phenomenal um yeah I mean CJ really put that extra little finesse into the coaster which is nice and I love that sign I love that sign yeah I want that on my bedroom door so I look kind of like this is related to Robles but I kind of like their promo video for it I've seen a couple of their promo videos and they actually look pretty cool like someone asked how are the operations the operations were actually pretty pretty decent um there are a couple there is a couple times when it did take a couple minutes because of other reasons but um but overall some of the dispatches were great and sometimes as soon as the block break as soon as the train hit the brakes the second one would go up the lift and it was really guys people are demanding Canada's Wonderland leaks so guys I just want to interrupt for a second we don't have the leak of the layout yes we have a really good understanding of the layout at this point um and the layout is actually sitting in a patreon so for anyone that's desperate for it you can go subscribe to me on patreon and the layout is on there but the leak that we're gonna be talking about is about the themed area for next year so I don't want to I don't want anyone to sit around if they really don't want to if they're really looking forward to the layout like don't waste your time I don't want to be that person that holds you here if you really don't want to but yeah it's a leak for the themed area not the coaster so I just want to make that clear so you guys aren't sitting here like and then you feel let down when we get to it 40 people instantly leave anyways I just have one question about what how's the loading process like yes the process um it's it's actually just like any other coaster really is close into the station comes to a complete stop harnesses open next group gets on type thing yeah but the way that they do the way that they check restraints is they do the front four is is one person and the back four is as another person so the way the one person doesn't have to do the whole thing that's generally how it is yep yeah okay but it's a fast crew how many people are there generally um I don't know I was only there for one day so I can't really tell attention to the ride yeah but no I'd say that there's there's they have they always have three people doing the clears because and then obviously someone doing the actual control booth so and then they also they will always have a grouper there because reasons yeah and so there's always groupers let's see their fair well there's always gonna be a group around railblazer especially yeah all right all righty so it's moving on fluffy again fluffy is gonna release a his review on the coaster I believe right fluffy on our channel yeah okay yeah so look forward to that and a fluffy filmed a lot of content today as well for CGA and railblazer so look forward to that too there are a ton of rumors for CGA and other Cedar Fair parks and even Six Flags parks now we're getting a lot of information wink wink and rumors so we're gonna go over that soon too I know we haven't touched on Six Flags a lot but we do have Six Flags reps and we actually just sent in a Six Flags media request so there should be a lot of exciting stuff coming soon all right this is a really exciting topic so we have Hershey Park is preparing for a major expansion in 2020 the land is being developed for what looks like a front gate renovation and moving stuff around building a better front gate and adding an entertainment and stuff like that and then there's a slight little nudge nudge to a future attraction that they won't reveal yet so we're I guess we already everyone already knows the information so why don't we just talk about what we think is the next coaster coming to Hershey Park yeah that's hilarious nice hershey it screams roller coaster for sure how many that's the question well I think I thought I could do a lot in that area I think in that area we'll see like one to two coasters maybe three but if like they're gonna like just make that like a whole new area and you know give it and give it everything that in regular area would have to be an entertainment give it rides give food you know give it all that stuff but then the real question is you know what would that coaster be well going on that coaster thing that you were saying eastern mm-hmm they're really makes it missing one main category and that's a launch coaster fluffy okay um anyways back from that technical difficulty I think they need another B&M coaster because the only one that they have as of right now is repair and great bear I've been on it it's really good and we're really underrated but I don't want to talk about that too much because you're fangirling okay yeah but they need they need another B&M and you know they have a hyper but I've heard swirlings that maybe they could get a giga possibly although I don't think that's what they'll be getting I just think that they need another B&M coaster because B&M's you know as we all know B&M's are good with capacity you know and yes so I totally forgot so they definitely need a B&M anyone who knows me knows I am the biggest B&M like I am fanboy B&M but isn't this intimate playground yeah I will admit though they could use a second launch coaster um someone is actually a pretty darn good ride it's pretty underrated not so many people talk about it you hear people talking about ice speed Rita top of drag I know but you know not so many people talk about storm and the storm owner actually is a pretty good ride I think it's actually works well for the park I think actually I bring Brendan you actually bring up a pretty good point I think they also could get another intimate coaster next year based on your opinions you might think that the top three at the park is all intimants I think so my point is I could I could see another intimate coaster coming my only thing is I don't know what intimate they could potentially get you know how about first they retract Wildcat make it good well I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna be working in the 20th in their expansion land before they do anything with that and or and if anything they might arm see it okay well I'm waiting coasters near the expansion area are there any wooden coasters near the expansion area the only wooden coaster there is comment but actually you kind of brought up yeah I reminded me of something yeah go ahead they're not gonna honestly comment no no no not arms to comment but no way or well cuz like I was gonna say like if there's like if there's another wooden coaster over there then they could possibly who knows they might be able to arm see that and then they can cut back on the track or just like move it around and then that and then that can be in your whole new area right there and that's how they expand it into the new engineer well comments I'm gonna add one little thing before we move on but actually you just made me think of something what if they decided to give a coat give them a coaster that was like a front gate coaster look at rods like gatekeeper even is wonderland we have a coaster at the front of the park that really catches your attention Hershey Park you really enter the park and you see rides like skyrush and Comet and all these other coasters but there's not really one that's right in front of you as soon as you get to the entrance so maybe what if in 2020 they decided to add a you know maybe a B&M wing coaster for let's say for example and go over the front gate and they give it really nice elements or something like that that way it catches their attention right as they're entering park or you know going through the turnstiles I think they Hershey Park could potentially do something like that but just to you know make the gift happy as soon as they're entering the park you know soon so we have a comment from Brody what about one of those new Vakomas oh that works I think you're gonna be proud of me I was about to say they can use a wing coaster but before I said that I thought a skyrush all right I guess we're moving on yep okay so I'm gonna say something here so I made a video on Kenny Woods project 2019 and I screwed it up I completely screwed it up I read too much into things I definitely overlooked other things and I missed one of the key aspects being the footers so we will be redoing a video on Kenny Woods 2019 project with updated rumors and after talking to some people that this is actually their home park I'm gonna definitely make a updated video on that because I definitely screwed up my Kenny would 2019 video so I just wanted to say that so thank you for not hating on me by the way in the comments I'm really shocked that it ain't gonna hate so what do you guys think is coming in 2019 to Kenny would and what do you think about this teaser and what does 197 I've heard that's a girl flower I've heard that's a girl flower coaster with a hundred ninety seven foot drop that is what I've heard I don't know if that's actually what it's gonna be but that's just all I heard well if I if I can ask the question has anyone actually viewed the land that this area like is in yes it's very large yeah um is it to rain does it have a lot of terrain kind of like Phantom's revenge where you're kind of diving to a like a ravine type thing or is it just completely flat it's pretty flat there are some like there's the old water the logger jam log jam I don't know what it's called yeah yeah um so if they if they did that do we think that if if it's flat and it doesn't have terrain do we think that it go with a hundred ninety seven foot drop and if so what type would it be because I'm thinking like I'm thinking one of two things I'm thinking either it's like footers or some type of coaster now at the coaster popular rumors used to be a steeple chase but you know after this teaser I feel like a lot that got a lot of us confused and now some of us aren't really thinking people chase so that either could be the amount of footers that they are using or it could be a junior Dyson got it right a hundred ninety seven foot wacky worm sweet yeah I don't know if that's the height guys like why would you scratch the height of the ride first I don't know if they'd go with a hundred ninety seven foot tall ride just because I feel like Kenny Woods more like a family park well yeah I feel like the more of a family park you know yeah but I don't I mean what if I'm not saying it's going to be a hundred ninety seven feet but if it was a hundred ninety seven feet what kind of coaster would have that height or have that drop a hyper can have that drop but not so hyper because think about it's only feet off of the actual hyper yeah I'm just thinking about project 412 what could that mean area code I'm searching that up right now wait wait wait wait oh wait wait wait wait wait is 412 backwards is it going to be a 214 foot drop with like a trench or could be two hundred and two hundred and fourteen feet high with the 212 foot drop no maybe maybe the height of the lift hill is a hundred and ninety seven maybe that's why they revealed at first thinking no one would clue in that 412 reversed is 214 feet which is close to a hundred and ninety seven area code forward to is Pittsburgh no people are looking into the area code too much because that one thing with carol wins yeah area code 214 is Dallas I reversed it around one thing I just thought about is there's only one of them but a macarons big dipper coaster would fit that pretty well for that park the only one at this point is lost gravity by the way that will be holding yeah which I want to ride it looks pretty good yeah but I feel like that would fit Kennywood pretty well yeah I don't I don't know if I can see the hyper rumor just because they have fans revenge I mean but well hold on just because they have fans of revenge doesn't mean that they can't get another hyper everyone's saying free space is fake wait what's free space what's fake because it's free space I'm so confused wait free space what I need to look at these comments now why would they choose the middle one first super loop yeah yeah yeah I'm starting to think it's I'm starting to actually question myself I think it's a hundred 97 foot tall lift hill with a 214 foot drop hmm and I think it's going to be a hyper because it's a very own back layout true but then what so are we thinking manufacturer B&M can they afford a B&M well I mean what are their other options and to men uh Vakoma Vakoma you're not wrong you know Vakoma did release that model for Hyperion oh my god Rage Bob that's so relatable anyone going to the buffet tomorrow I don't want to go on my life story literally my life story in a comment Wolf of has actually a good question is this a bingo card or a lottery card lottery bingo scratchers so it's a scratcher it's definitely a lottery yeah yeah um they said that we're going to get a new teaser every Thursday so we'll see well I can check that because I'll be out of school but I actually had a really interesting idea not saying this would happen but remember that layout that Vakoma made uh for energy landia oh yeah what if they made a what what if they made a watered down version of that that was uh that was like two like 214 feet tall 197 foot drop or vice versa and they put that in Kennywood like what if they did that because they never said they never said that they weren't going to do it it was still open for parks to buy so what if they're using that layout and they uh give that to Kennywood I don't think they would give something like uh no it doesn't work that way well not give not give but like they uh Kennywood would like buy like the layout like that yeah I feel like the thing that Brendan said project 412 and 197 it could be a Vakoma tilt coaster why no I don't I think they're done making tilt coasters I don't know yeah I don't those numbers wouldn't correlate really if it was you would lose a lot of height with a tilt coaster mm-hmm yeah but you could still say that the drop would be like that I think I don't know if we're gonna see a lot of tilt coasters I don't think yeah I feel like if a park puts their mind to it it's gonna happen oh my god Austin 197 foot tall swinging mine train coaster oh my god Kevin dwarves mine train on steroids oh no all right let's move on let's move on because there's gonna be a video at least once a week with these um these teas wait uh yeah hold on Brendan yep the right image 404 what does that mean what do you mean 404 oh at the very bottom I just noticed it mm-hmm card number 404 well now well now we can consider 404 as one of the numbers if if that's part of it I don't think the numbers are much though yeah yeah probably not okay let's move it on already okay so this is cute um okay so first of all I want to say congratulations to Clint Novak um I honestly look up to that guy so much I've watched him since I was like really a lot younger um loved his content love that he's now running a place um and it looks like he's running it really well I mean the changes going on are phenomenal this is so exciting for such a a place like this to finally get a cute little coaster like this and yeah watching every bit of updates that he posts so um I mean there isn't much to say because it's it's a smaller park but this is such great news I couldn't be happier for him and his team um and I wish them nothing but the best he's such a great guy yeah Novaks is amazing and you know until recently I just found out that you know he was doing this and you know I think it's amazing how you know even though it's a small park it's still a nice park that you know you can go to and have fun and you know do all these wonderful things I think it's amazing hopefully the guys feel like the business he's running right now is the place I've always wanted to go to for a birthday party yeah honestly the ultimate place yeah the ultimate birthday party and even weekends right even like for a kid and like young like teenager like just anyone watching this imagine you lived like across the street or like down the street from this place would you not go here right regardless if you had I don't know much bit larger a music park an hour or so away right no it's got a lot of various things so it's definitely a play it's better than like I mean you look around where we live in Toronto we don't have anywhere like this you have wonderland and you have arcades you don't have these nice blends of like right I would love a mall or like an arcade to pick up something and be a bit of both and both so this is phenomenal yeah I've also yet to be on one of these rides so I don't know what it's like but it looks pretty good for small things like that the last the last um so yeah I guess that's everything for this also the guy was getting run over pretty much all right so what you've all been waiting for so I will give a quick um just I'm gonna talk I'm gonna go through all the slides and then we'll go back to the beginning and then we'll talk with a team but basically what's been happening is everyone knows that this idiot from amusement insiders has been reporting that um that there's a potential that the coaster coming to wonderland if it isn't that coaster is going to be a giga coaster I don't know where that idiot got it from um no but out of all seriousness um there is a lot of evidence coming forward that is pointing towards this dive coaster being extremely tall so I'll use the word extremely tall and stop using giga in in this little segment here because I use it in all my videos now but it's looking really tall so I'll go over a bit of the facts we now know that the track is thicker than val raven at the base of the drop we know that the length of the lift hill is longer we know that there is double the amount of supports than there is to val raven which would suggest it doesn't always confirm but it would suggest greatly that this coaster is going to be a lot longer and usually dive coasters lose speed um very quickly they have a lot of drag one would assume that it needs a taller lift hill at least to get through a longer layout and then there's a couple of other factors too so um I mean val raven was built in six months and Canada's wonderland is apparently taking almost two years to build their coasters so there's there's definitely a a lot of key factors and a lot of evidence at play here and um I I totally understand people that are not believers in a giga dive coaster or wonderland going taller than val raven but um I wouldn't either like as a viewer I would be a little like uh skeptical at first as well which is why I'm always trying to prevent present my evidence um instead of just saying so I always try to present my evidence and then I always tell you guys too like uh we don't know and then anything I present isn't concrete so definitely don't take what I'm saying about it being a giga dive coaster as it's going to be a giga dive coaster I'm just trying to like you know create discussion all that but I'm really glad you guys enjoy the content I mean more and more viewers each update I do come in and there's so many comments everyone's so interested so I really appreciate that so we're going to quickly go over a couple of slides before we get to somewhat of a small leak um so the the park has been teasing a what could be a giga coaster so you guys already know this from my other video that the park has somewhat dropped some teaser balls with the giga term we don't fully know if it's a teaser or not but it seems very teaser-esque um and then we also have a tweet from early in the year where they tweeted the sign of Leviathan and they said what an expensive sign but the impressions were big so like I I personally thought that was a teaser in itself if you remember my videos from back when I was Canada's Wonderland fan um so um there's a lot of things that play with the evidence oh um what are you guys nice one um there's the leak I just gave wow um personally I don't think it's going to be a giga dive at all I think it's just going to be your plain old dive machine with theming theming even though it's got double the amount of supports I think it's just going to be longer because Valerie even I noticed did not lose that much speed going into the midcourse it just slows down there because it breaks really you don't remember crawling over that last little bit because I do after the midcourse remember it's double the length in terms of supports I think that I think I think for me that alone just leads to showing that this is going to be much larger than Valerie then now no no no it just means that's going to have a longer midcourse break run okay let Eastern talk and then we'll get to you I mean obviously fluffy we know that it's not all going to be for the midcourse but we know that um for sure that the layout could definitely be longer than um now even you're not going to have double the amount of support uh or support columns for like a 255 foot dive coaster you know obviously this has to be uh that much bigger and it has to be good reason as to why it's that much bigger in order for them to you know need as many support columns so even if they don't go exactly at 300 feet uh they could still you know there's a tunnel so they could still go like somewhere like that's under 200 feet and then make the drop for that reaches 300 feet but that's my thought on it that's yeah that's what our measurements bring us to right so we did it some mathematical measurements whether they're correct or not we know that the math is correct we don't know if the measurements are entirely correct and I actually just want to point out a comment here so and we know okay we're not saying anyone that says these things is always you know spot on or they're being teased by the the company or co but the co told me it was going to be 266 feet or 276 feet I can't complete remember the weird thing about that chaos coaster kid is our measurements actually brought us exactly to 276 feet tall dive coaster with a 30 foot drop or sorry 30 30 foot tunnel deep tunnel drop which brings it to 300 and like one foot or 302 feet drop in total so that's weird that you're saying someone told you that because that's actually what our measurements brought us to um for the left helm I kept on hearing just gonna go over a few things it's a temporary themed ride oh my god um I just wanted to say like it won't necessarily be your plain old dive coaster like I feel it's gonna drop do your standard first inversion or whatever do some sort of inversion again or a bank turn after that did you see my it looks like you saw my layout I didn't see anything I'm just like babbling uh huh Easter knows my layout and that's it so I was like I just nailed that on the dot or something yeah so I'm not announcing anything about the layout yet because there are people subscribe to me on patreon and I've put the layout on patreon first and I want it to stay there for a day or two so they they have access to it sooner just because they are supporting me and this does cost a lot of money to run guys so I do appreciate anyone subscribing to me on patreon like even a dollar it means anything like it helps me do this more and more and more and more looks like a interview content um but the tunnel is a donut there's the wing more like an old B&M's preacher that's easier means height or drop giga coaster or giga coaster I agree I think you guys just hit it on the dot I'm really embarrassed I didn't even think about that so Eastern what you said Jazm agreed with and other people are agreeing with you now too so if you look at this I think we were it's giga coaster so they're saying giga coaster or giga coaster and they're playing on themselves they knew that maybe people were like this isn't a giga coaster and they put the wink face suggesting exactly you said that just because it isn't a giga height doesn't mean it's not going to be a giga coaster yeah that makes a lot of sense and you know I think even if they were to do like let's say let's say just for the sake of this uh let's say like 276 feet let's go with that um even that's like a perfect mid-tier between behemoth and leviathan leviathan as we know was 306 feet tall and behemoth at 230 feet tall this would be right in between them and then you know just give it the 300 foot drop and then bam you got to do a giga coaster and obviously none of this effort confirmed like this is all just speculation and stuff like that but you know yeah I think it's possible all right so then we're gonna go to the leak so we've known for about so I've at least known for about two weeks there was a glitch with um the fast lane plus two um at first and it's been removed I don't think this was I don't think this was fully an accidental leak I think it's there so no frontier name has been released yet by the park um but everyone's been rumored and the signs going on that frontier canada which was an idea way back in the day for canada's wonderland um is finally coming forth and this new coaster is going to be that stepping stone for them to finally launch the full out frontier land or frontier canada at canada's wonderland and this kind of like confirms that so you play this yeah you play these games at wonderland to get exit passes and if you get one in the frontier pack you get an exit pass to timber with falls mine buster um whitewater canyon and flying canoes oh really yeah so that's the area and it goes all the way to mine buster so that would suggest that there is definitely a new area coming to connect the the two rides and um I don't think it was entirely on accident I don't think it's a leak but um I think that it's great I'm real I think everyone who's a canada's wonderland fan has been waiting for frontier canada to come yeah um and this leak by the way comes from thrill spirits who's in here right now I will I don't go to the park on sundays um where's exit passes I've ever seen holy um can we expect a swish l.a it can be franchised no I don't think swish l.a is going to come to canada's wonderland I from what I've understanding they're getting a harmony all um I just want to say if I try to get this one I can't a little bit to the left I'm going to be in for some pain flight deck I would I would get it stuck like I wouldn't even get an exit pass oh okay who wants this of where's exit passes I've ever seen the look on my face when I get that I'm like yeah what a oh no Anthony pulling Anthony so um we are actually working on an amusement insider's trip to king's island in like probably four weeks max four to five weeks we'll be there max I'm gonna be there for sure yeah we're going as a team there's a group of us going um so yeah definitely we are the kind of people that want to meet up with as many people as possible and you can hang out with us all day but like we aren't restrictive we'd rather hang out with you like when I'm at canada's wonderland like people come and hang out with me all the time so if we're ever at a park and you see us like come hang out with us or at least yeah like if any of you all are at la ronde and come and ride the one good ride there with me great adventure there's a tour on night drunk in the car and yeah I have my shirt and I just don't mind all right so for anyone that's watched right there's a couple things they are not hiding anything they're not hiding it very well um so I mean it's at this point we know everyone knows that the uconn gold rush canadiana frontier canada is happening um it looks stunning this these pictures don't really do this justice whoever built this it's really nice the attention to detail is amazing it has like little like mining wires or electrical wires I guess for dynamite kind of all through it and it looks really cool um and they have literally like a hundred of these canadian barrels over there they're stored even in the little forest area almost like up to the forest tree line and they have some of them out already they started using them in the canadiana frontier area for the shop that was built there and I'm really excited so anyone that watched my latest update knows that the pathway from timbrel falls to splash works in my opinion again this isn't confirmed is definitely going to have that kind of like frontier area from cedar point it's gonna look very similar I think there's gonna be a lot of olden time uconn style buildings there's gonna be a lot of canadiana theming um I see plumbing sitting there waiting to connect to a building there's electrical waiting to connect to a building all that's done they just need to build a building so they're already ready to go on that aspect and there's a lot of stakes and a lot of markers the tree line looks like it's almost marked for removal so there's definitely a lot going in there and I'm really excited to see what it is and we're going to stay up to date even in the winter because my drone's going to be up in the air so I mean they aren't going to be able to hide anything from us which is awesome because this seems like it's going to be canada's wonderland's biggest project yeah and I think they're doing the project well I want to discuss one little thing about gold mining in general what if there's an area in that sort of path or whatever that leads to splash works which has a gold mine type thing so you could see like the coaster running through a gold mine for example like you see all the the washing rigs and whatever to clean the gold out of the sand and tractors and stuff that look like they're digging yeah coaster flying by over your heads and then you see like an air building so that you can go in there and go and pan for gold as an upcharge yeah I can see a lot of things I feel like that would bring people there to experience the whole thing and it would add another really cool attraction to wonderland on top of the coaster junior I don't even know what charado want to run to for next year like read to me I'm running for um definitely flight deck I'm I think I'm gonna run to the left and either hit behemoth or this thing I'm gonna run my favorite I'm gonna run to the back of the park and get get on whitewater canyon and then leave I'm gonna stare at the parking lot and leave yeah literally but you know I think my first ride of next year is gonna be wonder mountains guardian oh just kidding now so we've been hearing rumors at amusement insiders we get a lot of rumors about canada's wonderland a lot of people reach out to us um and there's this whole conversation of upgrading whitewater canyon and timbrough falls um with theming so maybe one could think that maybe this theming really isn't related to the coaster yet or isn't for the coaster because and it's actually for timbrough falls in whitewater canyon I could I'll just touch the island no no um I definitely could see that being a possibility like I definitely could see that happening this would look amazing yeah I just think what they're doing overall with this clondike gold rush last winter uh you know theming with the you know area I think it's just looking great and I think they're executing like everything that they've been showing us and everything that we know I think they've been executing it really well so like kudos to wonderland on that for sure okay so it's funny someone just said can we do some question time we are at question time if I can adjust one question someone said do you peep think that king violet is going to get a giga in 2019 and um I think our general answer is no I think we all we're all thinking like 2020 2021 uh around that time and uh Brendon and fluffy and co-blast you all can talk about that 2020 for sure for me yeah uh fluffy um yeah um all right any questions before we wrap up and again join us in discord if you want I was muted I'm so bad I see a couple questions do you think dive coaster is a good fit for wonderland yes yes absolutely so a couple of reasons um the media and the gp are going to eat that up like there's no tomorrow in fact cedar park just did a poll on what's better raptor or val raven and val raven won hands down from the general public and if anyone remembers val raven the media we're like making all these like false like largest coaster in the world opening up at cedar point just because like the whole idea of diving is full and canadians are going to act react even more so than they do in the states because canadians don't see a lot of these things like you guys are used to seeing in the states so it's a great fit uh we have another question uh can you guys come to california i'm lonely over here well I could but I won't um talk yeah just going to the dive coaster I think it'll be good because again marketing they're going to be able to market that really well so it's gonna like definitely do great with their uh you know attendance and stuff like that and I think it's good because it gives them a good inverting coaster uh you know and you know we all know that dive coasters are basically one-trick ponies but that being said they still are amazing rides and they're so great fates uh for park especially like wonderland and wonderland is going to do really well uh really well in my opinion with a dive coaster you know inversions to drop and all that we have so many questions we're gonna have to go a little bit quicker um what do you guys know by us uh what else does canadians wonderland need to have a perfect lineup in the future launch the gci uh they needed a good wooden coaster probably maybe another good be a long back lock but they need like a high throw launch um I'd say give them a good high throw launch coaster a wooden coaster maybe a wing coaster and they're off set launch coaster yeah and then they're all set okay yeah we need to speed up these questions there's so many questions coming in guys yeah just say answers really quickly yeah so I said gci or a looping coaster coblast said a ride a ride any coaster east instead a lot I pretty much agree with everyone too much okay so what are your thoughts on intimate not building anything for a long time um I think that they deserve it um but they will they will get back up and they will survive they're not going to go bankrupt for no issues with no too many people like uh a lot of people really love intimate I think intimate right now probably won't be working with cedar fair right now but in the future I think they will uh fix their uh you know their relationships and they'll work with each other in the future cedar fair will be like baby come back but carowins or canada's wonderland for golden ticket next year wonderland wonderland for theming carowins depending on what they do at the layout yeah um I will say if it's like icon wonderlands will win if it's yes extreme if it's got no pacing issues whatsoever it's like I thrill then it's gonna be done hands down um what's the snowflake in the great graveyard for winterfest um dude any any evidence for a second left hill for wonderland no no evidence yet and nor do I don't think it'll have a second left hill I can't see it unless they're going for a storytelling coaster like at other like parks watch they have two molding breaks um watch I have a drop check no do we think that the um no we already have one of those there would be no point do we think that um it'll have the tallest version in the world from gatekeeper I actually that's a good question and that might be a good conversation to counteract the whole idea of it being a giga because if it's a giga it will have to have the tallest inversion but would they really take two records away from cedar point for one coaster I really don't think so yeah well I feel like the spacing of the footers for what looks like an emelman does not look like wide enough to be a proper like much taller inversion it looks similar to valry evans yeah so that'd be that'd be the only thing that would really deter the entire giga thing that's that that actually brings a really good point if they had to then uh yeah if they're going to make it a giga then they have to if it's not if they're not making it a giga then they probably will what's your favorite coaster that you've ever ridden steel vengeance steel vengeance second is maverick my second is gosh i'll feed oh uh outdated comment oh okay I would not oh yeah you answered that yeah can you tell me that uh came was doing wait okay so came was doing the larry took a type thing so two or more numbers have to match did this mean a thing a kind of weird comment but still oh that's a good point to bring up well actually so I don't know who did it but someone uh so there's nine spots and we're getting one and a teaser each week uh someone uh did the math I guess it's kind of math but um they apparently it's for each of the spots every week we're going to get a new teaser until national roller coaster day I could see that I'm surprised wonder when it hasn't started their teasing campaign but don't we really really I can't believe you just said that what started that like three years ago no they haven't started it they they put up a they put up a poster um which is probably a teaser for the new area if anything um yeah that's where one's new coaster could be third best I mean it's hard to beat a bnm giga coaster and a bnm hyper coaster I actually and I I don't know you guys to answer I okay so I'm gonna trigger I don't love Leviathan I don't I I love it as a coaster it's a great coaster but because I've been on so many other gigas and well I just I love being I love behemoth better Leviathan for me is incomplete they needed one more element or two um I actually think that this dive coaster because I love Val Ray then might be my new favorite coaster at the park I can see this oh you go oh I'm just gonna say I can see that happening because you know from what we've seen the theming it actually looks like it looks like it's gonna be pretty good um I don't know if it's gonna be barren level barren 18 barren ock and ock in akington I can't say that right barren 1898 I don't know if it'll beat that theming but it does look like it'll have decent theming um and if they can do the theming well and give it a good layout and you know actually make it more than you know just the average dive coaster make it better than you know the dive coaster that we have then I do think it have potential to be the best uh coaster in the park although Leviathan does look pretty decent oh my god I can't even keep up with the comments I will say I am not the biggest fan of behemoth I don't like you this much because of the trains and Bremen's gonna slap me when I get into Wonderland next time but there you go Ben I'm turning it off like for my personal opinion to be behemoth I prefer Val Raven over behemoth are you guys ready for the weather in Ohio yes we are I actually go to Ohio at least two times a year minimum I was ready for it we got on everything uh I I had a I'm having them be uh cut off in the minute okay uh so we can start wrapping this up are we gonna lose timbrella falls um no I don't think we are anymore I feel like it's gonna get an overhaul for next season to make it look nicer and fit into the new area yeah for sure along with whitewater canyon and possibly even aspects of mine buster get rid of sledgehammer exclamation point get rid of one of these days that ride is just going to explode what is the hotel being announced um I to be honest I think something's happening I think they ran into a bit of a kerfuffle that's my favorite word by the way if you can't tell it is still showing as pending on the website and they have or they were already supposed to have dug ground it is still happening from what I can tell it's still being planned they're still talking about it like it's good to go on the stockholders calls um I was expecting an announcement already based off of the stockholders call too so I'm kind of shocked I feel like something might be something might be happening behind the scenes um I they've done some soil tests maybe something came back and they need to find something else but it's still pending it's been approved on many aspects it's just waiting final approval so the fact that it's been approved on eight different aspects shows that it's probably not going to be declined there probably something just happened and they're just figuring out what to do from there um icon has pacing issues retweet don't hate me UK people all right wait what who's saying all right me oh you can leave I thought you I think you were saying all right like because you have to go no you can leave hi what do you think is the most neglected theater fair park I think um besides it's a good adventure um I would say Dorney park because they haven't really gotten anything new really the last or the last new coaster was because y'all are hating on it well listen fluffy cga has them pretty I have the pretty bright future although that might that might be changing but we don't really know no it's not no it's not I the stockholders call they it's good to go oh well okay then um cga has a really bright future Dorney park we haven't really heard that much coaster was in 2005 or four I don't remember which year but it was Hydra and that was the last new coaster that was original and that wasn't even that big and everything else either was a clone or a relocation and you know really they need they need they needed a better coaster line because they don't really have the best and I think the park just needs a little more but let's end it here no we're not ending it oh we're not ending it oh you have to go um well I don't have to go so I want I want to I'm gonna trigger a lot of people that aren't Canada's one of the fans so Michigan's adventure is definitely the most neglected park but it's not because it doesn't need attractions it's too small of a park Canada's wonderland is the most neglected park and hear me out no this park is in the Toronto market one of the biggest markets in the world it should have already had hotels similar to cedar point it should have already had its upgrades its front gate can't handle its capacity its parking lot can't handle its capacity it had valuable land sold by didn't kill that the park needed to develop hotels and additional parking on so the park is literally like the ugly stepchild in a way and finally because some guy from Disney Matt we met came over came over and took over is getting what it needed and so now it's it's definitely in much better hands but it is not utilized in the way if it was invested under the Dick Kinzel era the way it should have been we would have been like a 5 million attendance theme park by now well your attendance is still doing pretty well though you can't deny that yeah you guys have the best attendance I need to go to comments now yeah you guys have the best uh what's it's called um attendance in North America besides like the Disney parks and like all that so you guys definitely doing well with attendance but you know okay you guys are getting you know additions and coasters that are good but what about cedar point and talk to so um Jane Jane in um so a giga is like defined as like a 300 foot tall coaster so top thrill is like above that so it's it's considered a strata coaster so when people are saying two giga coasters they're referring to two 300 foot tall coasters in the same category so I think that's what people are saying but I definitely see yours out of the story as well yeah strata dive oh um what do you think the carer ones coaster theme is going to be definitely snakes in my opinion and I'm going to think like water it looks like a lot of water is involved I know someone who doesn't like snakes it actually be pretty funny if they it actually be pretty funny if they had like a water slash snake type theme especially since the coaster is near the water park so that actually be pretty interesting if they actually went with uh what you're saying Brandon wait fluffy I didn't realize you were doing that we can answer questions if you need to go you you can like head off oh well no because I'm saying like because we're up the one hour 15 minute mark okay yeah we're going to wrap up but I can always edit out the question period to be honest actually no we'll wrap up now it's a big update um so we'll just ask these last little questions uh Brandon we I think we already answered if the dive coaster is a good fit for wonderland and I think we all agreed it's a good fit last coaster isn't sure yeah well those smaller parks are definitely neglected um in fact cedar fair is pretty renowned for neglecting some of the smaller parks on like six flags but and we're biased from the bigger parks I can't even imagine what it feels like to have your home park as one of those smaller parks yeah good to do you think the oh yeah I think that's it for questions so I guess we will wrap up then do you guys have anything else to say before we uh end this um you know just saying there's a lot going on in the coast community that you don't want to miss out on so you know always be tuned and stuff like that um definitely um hit the subscribe button if you haven't but I'm assuming everyone in here is subscribed go on over to patreon I know this 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