 I think that the way that we can see the benefits of the local finance is when the agriculture are prepared to receive them. Because when they emerge in their forest activities, they know what they need and they have to be prepared how to use it. So the benefits are going to see and they're going to feel and they're going to have it well. But if they are not prepared, they don't know how to manage the finance, well, it almost always is, it is well perceived as a benefit at the last. Well I think that it works better when they are organized, see, because when their people are together, they help each other to do their thing best. Associations, they are going to be very successful in Guatemala. We have a great number of associations that are going, that they are doing it well at their level but they are doing it well. In cooperatives, you know, we have a very big one, that name is Federico Vera, it is a federation of cooperatives, but they are doing a very good work in the central north part of Guatemala and the north in Petén, there are a lot of associations that they are working very well with the financial they receive for the forest activities. So I think that if the forest people get integrated in an association or a cooperative, they are going to use the finance in a better way than if they are doing it alone. Well in Guatemala we have different levels of the forest activity. We have a part that they are planting, we have a group, another group that are protecting and in a few years to most they are going to be harvesting. Now we have to be prepared to move those who have been planting to the next level, see. So we have to move them from the plantation to the industry and the industry to the trade and this is going to be a very, very big challenge because we have been working very hard, very hard for the last 20 years almost in the production of the wood so we have a lot to do now.