 Uzunia when we back on the SHOTね continue until 3 o'clock so keep stay tuned Family is Up about what is happening in Tokio Japan for Olympics that are ongoing so far so speak right now Karenil 10,000 so on a few minutes to the completion of the res LNO beat of course it contention to bug a gold medal or probably medal brackets for that particular case La Futura Even on this properly pri goddess her need to program it because I believe already they are her best and the way I look at things at the moment is the performance you look at that amount would be kind of till A team Kenya has not performed So to speak, but if you look at in the individual spots, athletics has somewhat delivered. Other countries who sent delegations, they sent different teams, isn't it? Athletics, boxing, stuff like that. And you look at the compliment that each sport is giving the other when it comes to the contribution to the medals. You look at some of the big teams, Japan, US, Italy, China. They have a medal in this sport, they have a medal in that other sport, then they have a medal in track and field. You see, that compliments the… It's the diversification. Yes, but you see, for Kenya it is… We are relying on athletics. Athletics, and it is not something that has been happening today and yesterday. It is something that has been happening. If the last medal outside athletics in the Olympics came, I think it came either in 88 or 92 Barcelona. I'm not quite sure about that, but I believe it was in boxing. You see, so my belief is that Kenya as a country has not done too much to contribute to the medal title, you know, as a country. I feel the investments into sports. Yesterday we were checking on some countries that were not doing so well in the Olympics. And our biggest conclusion was that a team like Poland, they are having a team or an individual in every other final. You see, and this is athletics, isn't it? You go back to these other sports, they have a thrower here, but I think the lady can't recall the name. One, the one, two in Hama. You see, I think that's what we need to come back and do as a country. Invest in that diversification, you know, and ensure that if there is somebody who wants to train for swimming, there are facilities either Kasarani, it is not only Kasarani. You can have either Kasarani or this other place or that other place, you know. If it is somebody who wants to do archery, I saw there is a lady who is doing some archery, I think it is in Gong. But there is so much into archery that in terms of equipment, she cannot do it on her own. When it comes to table tennis and these other racket games, there needs to be investment from the government, you know. But the way you look at it is either clubs, you see, like you go to a parkland sports club, I think you can play squash and some of those other events. But nationally, we don't have that. And that's without doing that, we will continue relying on athletes who are not into it because they have been sponsored but it is individual brilliance. Fantastic insights coming from you. Do you tend to read from some script with what Mugai is saying that it has to be a collective responsibility so that we doesn't overlie on one spot? That's why there has been much noise coming from social media users who believe that we are not performing well because our athletes had not started participating. Yeah, Mugai is quite clear and very right on the matter. And 100% behind what he just said, we tend to rely 100% on athletics. It's high time that we also send other disciplines to international meets or global competition. I was checking on the entry of a US team, that's American team. They have representation in every single Olympic game. Someone was asking me the same question. In athletics alone, they have entered three athletes in every discipline. So if you check all the finalists, all the finalists, you will see a US presentation. You go to swimming, there is a US presentation. You go to squash and there are always three. Athletes alone, they send 150 athletes. And how many do we send? We only send 40. And we expect to compete at the same level with this guy. It's just high time government and corporate calm and embrace sports. We have talent. You check the way Omanyala performed at going up to semifinal. Running 10-01 at the Olympics is not one of the things that is very hard. And he achieved it. Why? Because he had some training outside the country. He trained in South Africa for almost three months before coming for the trial. And he also had some meets in Nigeria, South Africa, where he got some sharpening towards the Olympics. Sprint is also very expensive, unlike long distance competition. Sprint you need diets, nutrition is needed there, gym is needed there, then speed work. All of this require money. Unlike long distance, what you find? They skip nutrition, they only do long distance training. Then you eat your local managu, local music. Then go there and perform. What do we do with those races, especially where we having veterans who are aging or probably retired? Like what happened in 3000m steeple chest? It's a race we've dominated. I think for the last three Olympic championships we've been bagging gold since Ezekiel Kempoe and even the predecessors, those who started before him. But this time round we didn't do well. I don't know what we do. We start now training the newcomers for proper replacement so that we continue with good performance in those particular respective races. I think my observation on sports, we have to embrace three things. These three things include one, the talent. That athlete must be talented. Two, that athlete must have the resources to train. A jacket here, a shoe there, a spike there. Then you need to have the third, which means science. The way I look at sport at the moment, without sport science, you're not going to go far. When it comes to training predecessors, I mean successors into some of these events, it requires a lot. I think individuals whom ran in under 17 and under 20 for the previous two championships for Kenya, I think in Tokyo we only had two. That is Merimora and Edna Gibitok. So that kind of succession is what we need. I saw a lady, I think she is called Vincente from Spain. I saw that guy from Brazil, from Santos. I saw a Cuban who ran in under 18 and under 20 championships, the previous championships. So for them it means there is succession, there is continuity. That's what we need because you look at Kenya, the guy whom we thought could come up and get crushed, that Stipoches was a guy called Leonard Bett, but he failed or he failed along the way. So it becomes really tricky for athletics to say that you can train. How do you train? How do you train somebody without these other stuff that I mentioned about? Because Bett is talented, isn't it? But does he have the science? Does he have the resources? The closure of camps and sporting facilities during the lockdown, I think it was one of the most ill-advised moves by the government. Because I think due to that we didn't have our athletes training properly and for you to train properly you have to train for something. You train for a trial. You must have something you are looking forward to. Most of these athletes were to use the word desolate to be hash, but let's use it. You ask an athlete, are you training? Yeah, today I ran five but I don't feel like I'm going for the afternoon. Why? I'm not training for anything. Because they are used to train for a race here, a race there and that contributes to what this individual is going to give at the top level. We look at the volleyball team, they are the best in Africa, isn't it? But they don't participate in circuits where some of these other teams are training. They are not in such circuits. So it becomes very difficult for them to compete with such teams. So Robert is telling me that as it looks like we are not in the middle brackets of 10,000 meters we have not managed to secure top three finish. Yes. You have been multitasking on the show and watching it in the other end. It's actually Sifan has just won the 10,000 women's race. Second is Aneldi from Bahrain, also formerly Ethiopia. And third is Gide. The one you guys were talking about and you had tipped her to be the favorite for the race. Yes, exactly. She has finished third. I'm not sure if she finished the rest. She finished, yes. She finished maybe fifth at the back. Fourth. Can we attribute her performance to exhaustion? Yes, we can. But all athletes are really blaming the heat. The heat there is too much for them and especially for long distances. And earlier I told you earlier I was chatting with Lawrence Terono. Yes, yes. Who will be running marathon. Yes. He is among the favorite for me. I would love him to win. And he was telling me that at the race which is tomorrow there, the weather will be more hotter than the way it was at the women's race. So actually they are expecting brutal, brutal weather. And Mugiwa was touching on a very critical point. Yes. That this competition is happening in the wake of a serious crisis in coronavirus. I don't know, what do you think about what the athletes themselves have done to defy the difficulties that come with this particular pandemic in order to continue performing better? This year's Olympics was more of a participation because everyone believed that it was not going to happen. So whatever. It was more of a guesswork. It was more of a guesswork. And I was here earlier and I told you that Japan had really invested heavily on this. Yes, yes. And they wanted by all means that it was going to happen. For athletes to go there and win, I think it's a plus. A plus for them. They really did very well and congratulations for them. And I've seen so many personal best coming from a short and middle distance. And I think that's quite an achievement. 1500 meters men coming up surely in the next one hour I think at 2.45 pm. What are the expectations? Timut Teriot, Abel Kipsang, of course he ran a personal best or he break his personal record? Personal record and Olympic record. Which previously was held by Noongen. What do we expect again? Let me say, Tokio has taught me how not to be speculative. Was you look at most of those races and how the Kenyans are performing and how the other athletes are performing? I would say, yes, I'm hopeful that Timothy will deliver that gold. And I also have watched how Kipsang ran the young guy and putting in an Olympic record performance in the semis. I think it was a great achievement. Now the question is, did he go too hard, too early, you know, as in in the semis? When it doesn't matter most. To mean that when it comes to the final he will not have a lot in his reserves to chase down the competitors. That is only something we can wait and watch. But I'm hopeful that we are going to have at least two medals in that race. Two medals, yes. Two medals in that race, yes. Quite unfortunate that we are missing one big man. Of course, who are his own social media roaring to come back stronger during Oregon Championship next year? Elijah Manangoi. You think his presence will have added some impetus to Kenyan performance? Elijah is a warrior. He is more of a lion the way he calls himself. He has a very strong personality, strong spirit, and he can defy anything. Missing him there was unfortunate, but he is really back in training, fully in preparation. And by November I'm pretty sure he will be competing in an indoor competition across the Europe. Because by that time his man will have come to an end. So expect him to do well. Being in constant touch with these guys, even including Timoth Kereyot, how is he looking forward to what we are about to see in the next few minutes? Is he confident that he can do it? Just before coming into the set, I just started Elijah. He is saying that if the pace is fast, he is going to win it. Sure. I think we have backed 1500 meters before Asbel Kiprok has done it in the Olympics. I think it was the one that was delayed. Is that delayed? Somebody won it, but it was banned for ARDV. So it was not automatic? It was not automatic, yes. But I feel like Dennis says, I feel if we had Timoth Kereyot and Manangoi in that championship. They would have backed each other. That would have been a race for the gold. Who amongst the two would win it. But that does not mean I am going to underestimate Kipsang. Yes. No. I know what it makes, what it takes for somebody to come through the Kenyan trials to go to a championship and make it all the way to the final. I do not know whether you saw the Cuban girls when they realized they would be in the 4 by 100 meters final for the women. Those girls celebrated like literally because making a final Yes, making a final at the Olympics is something huge. So for Kipsang, I think he can make his name, so to speak. Yes, maybe to add on, this Olympics has really produced some of the brilliant runners also. I first met the lady from Uganda who won Stipochen Stibutai. Chimtaia first met her in 2016 at secondary school games in Eldoret. Then later I met her in Finland. She has never won a race outside her country. What? Yes, she has never won a race outside Uganda. But she went there and claimed the goal at the right time. So you never know, Abel can surprise. I think to add on what Dennis talked about Peru there, I think my biggest shock of the Olympics is this guy called Jacobs from Italy. I see if there are some issues that are cropping up now, but for him the big man to win the 100 meters final and break the dominans by the US and the Jamaicans. I think it was a big thing. And to consider that this guy until 2018 he was a jumper. But then he transitioned. And it worked. I think we are going to have some more shock results. I hope it is not Kenya losing final. And countries like Jamaica have also suffered from their doing. We are suffering from continuity program. Like what they were experts in especially in 100 meters. Not doing very well. That's a very interesting question because Dennis and I were looking at the Jamaicans and their performances at this particular Olympics. I think the only veteran I saw in that Jamaican team are let's say people who have ran beyond Rio. I think it was the big man, you see, black and sherry and fresher price. So these other guys who were in the Jamaican team are relatively young. And they were in every other semifinal, every other final. The only thing is they were not winning especially for the men. But you look at the finals, all those finals, they have representation either 2 or 3. So what I'm saying is maybe Jamaica this was not their championship. But going forward they have something in their reserves that they can unleash when it matters. What are our expectations tonight? Just a word before that. The age bracket for Jamaica I saw it was around 23 years. So that people will be there beyond Paris 2024. That is good planning. Yes, tonight we are winning gold. Yes. It doesn't matter who but gold is coming to Kenya. As a country we are going to defend the gold medal. It's coming back home. I think the way you speculated we likely to get to 5. Yes. Or even if possible surpass it Mugai. Is there a possibility? No, no we can't surpass it. No, now we can't surpass because we lost the 10,000. So what are our permutations in Marathon men? And 1500 meters men. And 1500 meters men. The one that is happening at 245. So I'm pretty sure the preparation our marathon team managed to get. We have a strong strong team. Both the one that finished last night and this one coming tonight. This likelihood we are going to get 2 medals in Marathon. Gold included. I like that confidence. Yes, I'm very confident and I can go on record and say that we are going to win gold tonight and another gold in 1500 meters. It looks like a marathon race is quite intense. There are to be change of venue from where to, where it will be happening in Sapporo. I think this was the decision that was taken very early when there were those preparations for the Olympics and it was decided that the long walks, I think both all walks and the marathons would happen in Sapporo and not in Tokyo. I think the organizers felt that the weather or the temperatures and climate or whatever you call it in Sapporo would be better than it is in Tokyo. And when you talk about the intensity of a marathon, I don't know how I can put it, because I think marathon is so intense because especially in a competition level because you have to combine a lot of aspects, a lot of aspects, both bodily and outside. But like Denny says, I think even without looking at the training after the team was named, I think you can look at the championships or the road races, the marathons that these teams, the athletes in Team Kenya, how they performed in those particular races towards the naming into Team Kenya. They performed very well. And if they can keep that and bring that form from a road race or a city marathon situation into a championship, I think it would be a very, very big plus. But championships I think are the most unpredictable competitions. Just to add on top of that before Maksa, don't expect first time in this marathon. Look at the last night, the time you will find someone running I think it was 227? No, 231, around 230. And their personal best was 217. See the time. Even this one, the one who will win this championship will clock not more than 2 hours, 8 minutes. So don't expect the time mailed has been posting over 2 hours, 3 minutes. Don't expect those times. There is a viewer here by the name Tomuchel from Kitui. He is asking, your panelists can address this issue of selection of the athletes representing the country in Tokyo. Was it fair or biased? I don't know. Let me, my guy will add. All the athletes who were, they were invited according to their performance previously. You can't come out of your village and come and compete at the trial. Trial is invite only and you're invited according to the time you've been running towards that. So, first you have to be have competed. And athletes Kenya did very well, they introduced two championship, which they were called pre trials. For athletes which were open for athletes to come and gauge their time. Then they picked 1, 2, 3 according to their performance. Then they added from that list they added from the elite runners who have been competing diamond league in Europe. So to me, as someone who was there who has been there, it was fair. It was fair. There was no aspect to wild cards this time round, right? No, let me say with a pandemic I think athletics Kenya performed exemplary in ensuring that they had a team for Tokyo. Let me not talk about the rest of the teams. Let me talk about athletics which I followed religiously from the pre trials to the trials and to the team naming. You realize that athletics have this rule they have by themselves that athletes who are going to compete at the trials are invited. It's an invite only championship. But the introduction of the pre trials means that every athlete had an opportunity to make it to the trials. To make it into at least or to put them in a situation where they can qualify to be in the trials. And with that you also have to factor one of the biggest headache that this country has had in the recent times and it is endoping. Kenya is in category A. That means in terms of matters doping they can't go any further. The only thing that can happen is they go the Russian way where they get banned. So athletics Kenya they have to also look at individuals who are coming for the pre trials and the trials. And that is why you see the messed let me say the category they messed by involving a guy called Kamaretiam in the trials. Because this guy did not meet the mandatory antidoping tests. What does the rule say? You need to be tested at least three times in the last ten months. Out of competition three times in the last ten months and those three times it's not today and tomorrow. It has to be split at least 21 days apart. You see? Unannounced. And it is unannounced. Out of competition. So everybody who is considered for the trials he came out to go back to the yearbooks. And so within the antidoping agency of Kenya testing pool or the antidoping athletes integrity unit testing pool this is the body of the world athletics that is involved with ensuring the integrity and that's how antidoping rule and adherence comes in. So for me to cut a long story short is what I do professionally so the trials were clean. The trials were clean and fair. And the same if you the Kenyan follow what happened to Nigerian athletes yeah athletes from Nigeria demonstrated carrying placards in Tokyo complaining that they were denied an opportunity to compete. There's only 20 of them didn't get out of competition testing. Actually they were hearing it for the first time there. But again it's a problem with the federation so the athletes. Excellent conversation this particular afternoon these two gentlemen who are an authority when it comes to matters Kenyan sports and beyond especially athletics and specifically what's happening in Tokyo during the ongoing Olympics in Japan of course as they predicted that Kenya is looking for two other two gold medals and particularly tonight either gold or silver or bronze regardless of who is winning not necessarily Kipchoke but it's a gold. Of course we're gonna put him to question as far as that one is concerned. Thank you for coming through and thank you for sharing your insights as far as what is happening in Tokyo Olympics we're gonna take a short break then come back next with the funds and don't go away stay tuned it's the touch line.