 It was devastating. It was my whole world. At that time what I thought was my whole world just collapsed. To leave with a sense of community amongst ourselves as a cohort, with a shared understanding of why participants come to this work and of how to build trust between artists, arts presenters, health care providers, and military communities who don't often partner together. And we hope to develop clarity on best practices for practitioners working in this field. Not necessarily making things, we just found a lot of joy and community just through the practice of what people used to do or I never thought about writing, but I'm in journal in all the time is this art. Am I allowed to call myself an artist is what I'm making artistic, right? And so language, equity, and welcoming everyone into the room has been a really important part of the practice. Your eyes are closed and you're just telling it and you always start from the very same spot. The first couple of times I did it, now my eyes are closed and she asks, so where are you? And I said, I'm on my base in Afghanistan. The problem is, I think we're trying to do everything on the tail end, but you frontload all the effort and the cost and the expenditures on the front end, you only start reaching out towards the tail end right there.