 Welcome to the original gangsters podcast. I'm your host Scott Bernstein quick hitter edition. We're going to dive back into the blue wave. Pagan's outlaws. What's going on in Oklahoma. We had a conviction this summer and a sentence related to a shooting on a highway back highway six in Oklahoma back in the fall of 2021 involving three or four outlaws and a couple Pagan's outlaws have controlled Oklahoma for 45 plus years. And then there was Virgil Nelson who was the number one defendant in this case Arlo is his nickname was one of the founding fathers of the outlaws in Oklahoma I think they opened up the chapter and 77 or 78 and Nelson and about six other guys went down to Florida to be part of like a Halloween ceremony that granted them their chapter. He dropped from the case last year. All charges were dropped. And as of this summer Steve Roberts the alleged trigger man in the September 2021 murder of Pagan Danny Aaron who was a military vet US Marine and the Pagan's as part of this blue wave expansion that was launched by Conan the barbarian Richter national president in New York Long Island. He wanted to go out west and the Pagan's have never had a big presence out in the West and some of the push West ended up in Oklahoma the Pagan started a chapter around Oklahoma City in 2019 and it seemed like this you know this type of violence was probably only a matter of time. The Pagan Danny Aaron and a prospect that was with him were driving one way on this highway and the outlaws were also on that highway they saw each other and shooting broke out. Steve Roberts was convicted this summer of murdering Danny Aaron. This past week he was sentenced to 13 years in prison in state court. This wasn't a federal case. This was a state state case but you know it just really encapsulates what's going on with this blue wave expansion and going into areas that the Pagan's have never been in and running into either outlaws or or Hells Angels. And that's why there's talk of a kind of an outlaws Hells Angel peace treaty possibly to unify to try to nip in the bud. I guess that might be impossible. It's already starting to bloom but stem off this this blue wave initiative. Richter as we spoke about in the last couple weeks was supposed to come out of prison on a federal gun case but is back with the state authorities in New York having to do another year two years on a state gun case. Most in most cases it would have run concurrent because the government has such a target on Conan's head they're making him run consecutive. But just quickly Arlo Nelson who is the, you know, one of if not the most veteran and venerable outlaw shot callers in Oklahoma. You know there was he was a vice president through most of the 80s and 90s until his he did some prison time and came out of prison at some point in the last five years I believe and there's debate about what what official position he has in the in the in the club. He's been described as the godfather of the Oklahoma City outlaws. I've also had people very close to him tell me that that's that's a falsehood that he is more of like a esteemed elder statesman that the guys that are running the chapter now look look to for in council or advice, but he definitely has quite the mythology around him in Oklahoma biker circles Arlo Nelson again the og dates back to the 1970s with the outlaws when they were just becoming a national power and he was one of the seven people that planted that flag in Oklahoma for the outlaws. At first, you know he was actually wounded in in the in the gunfire. But they believe that he was either behind it or had been involved in helping Roberts shoot but it looks that that wasn't true at all and and Nelson was simply caught in, you know as collateral damage when the prospect that was riding with Danny Aaron shot back at the outlaws and they wounded Arlo Nelson, he had to face the case for about a year. It got dropped last summer. So but Steve Roberts is going to go do 13 years in prison. And only time will tell how this is going to affect pagans outlaws relations in Oklahoma City I'm guessing the temperatures aren't going to tamp down, but it has been quiet since this case came. So for Benny behind the glass and Jimmy who will be back in the long form episode later this week I'm Scott Bernstein og pod out.