 Are we oh wait a second. I think they were having a little bit of a buffer issue Hold on guys. Can you see everybody out there? Who's watching just text and see if you could see us live Normally I do this when I start this show with you. Mm-hmm, but today There we go All right, I'm sure his cards has showed his cards. We know where it's going already. Hello maniacs on January 10 2022 Judas Priest posted we are chomping at the British steel a bit to return to world touring Celebrating 50 years of Judas Priest as an even more powerful relentless Four-piece heavy metal band with Glenn coming out on stage big Thanks to Andy for all your all you've done and continue to be working in the production team on our new album See you soon head bangers then maybe a few hours later Well, hang on. Sneep sends a statement to blabbermouth Sneep said Bob called me last Monday and said they wanted to move on as a four-piece Which I find incredibly disappointing after this amount of time by risk, but I respect his decision as they obviously Have a vision how they want this to play out This always was a temporary situation and like I said before I've always helped the band Anyway, I can't and that applies going forward. Also. We continued. So there you go guys I'm gonna let Stefan. I know he's been holding it in Just the past few days. It's just it's festering and I'm gonna give the mic to Stefan Just to start things off and I know Sean peck We got to hold him back a little bit because I know he can't contain himself Stefan you have the mic go ahead Look, this is my well-worn well-traveled combat vest with this patch Of the Judas Priest's days from back when I loved them This is you know, I'm a fan. I'm a fan first Judas Priest show Verdun auditorium in 1982 and this is a band. I just couldn't stop Staring at it wasn't just Rob Alford's mean guy. You have You know Glenn Tipton KK don't donning owning the stage solo wing Like stereo speakers This is Judas Priest this will always recording in progress and record this will always be Judas Priest so the minute The band was down to to replacement to replacement I said, I'll never go watch this band again, but then I went I think they were opening for no It was I don't know if it was a deep purple tour But anyway, and I said wow they can still pull it. This is incredible Those two guitar attacks even though they're not playing like KK and Glenn did it works on a stage It works. I still get into it. I Cannot envision less than two guitarists dueling on stage What this band did is Embarrassing this is not just a musical move. This is not just a business move This is a career ending move a slap in the face to their most diehard fans who put up with you know Weird personnel changes, you know from drummers from you know Singer like replacing a Rob Hallford was dumb, but hey they wanted to survive. Okay But taking away one of the guitarists Like Chuck Norris doing fight scenes, but cut off one of his arms. No, you can't do that You can't do that. Sorry. Okay, okay, so I Maiden's adding guitarists. They're taking away guitar Sean Peck Given that you are filling in for trials here today. I will let you I will give you the mic Okay, so When I first heard it, I thought it was like sneak saying Hey, man, you know, it was fun But I've got a bunch of records to make and I'm about to get paid big cash making these records So, you know find somebody else then come to find out that they just call him up and dismiss him for an Unknown reason. This is like Manowar losing the guitar player. No Ross the boss Merciful fate getting back together. No Michael Denner completely absurd Judas Priest Losing Glenn and not getting KK in the band. It's such a It just sucks so bad For the for the metal fans that these people can't get over their own I mean, I'm in bands. I'm wanting to hear this in the band So I know what it's like to have squabbles with band members, but not when you're, you know Big money making legacy acts like this um You know Did Judas Priest has a history of just horrible horrible business decisions. I I've told the story before about You know on the firepower tour one of the artists that I work with They he was asked to prepare a bunch of t-shirt designs. He made these incredible. I have them You know, they're incredible and they wanted to give him like a hundred dollars each For these designs and he's just like what the hell why don't like I'm some little kid or something But it's just you know, it's one I'm a little bit on the inside from knowing Some of the player you're fading a little bit Shawn. You're fading in your audio Okay, can you hear me now? Yes Okay, so I'm a little bit I got a lot, you know some insider information knowing some of the people that were involved in the whole Halford band and the whole Metal god productions world and that whole thing to see how some of those decisions were made and then And then you know opening for priests a couple times dealing with their management I'll just that microcosm of a scale of what we went through with their management Just is some no-name opening band for them and and to see You know how they roll out videos they always look like they have no money They always look like they're on the cheap and you know, they're looking at this social media Right now. There's not one person that's going sweet Judas priest Well a four piece that's going to be awesome. There's no one saying that The the public backlash is so devastating right now people talking about Getting their money back for their tickets. Judas priest is my favorite band You know and I'm here on this show talking about a Judas priest four piece There is no, you know, they however, they're going to try and spin this There is no spin that can make any amount of sense unless they go Hey, k.k. Downing's coming back in the band. We did but we were trying to work it out But we didn't want to say whatever, you know, they if they got another guitar player in They they would they could find a way to salvage the situation the other thing about having a new guitar player Yeah, I don't know if they didn't want to sleep or whatever It would be something exciting for like oh, there this new guy is playing It would be there would be a there would be a buzz or be something to talk about There would be something new to see but no it's a four piece. It's a disaster All right parent and I just want to preface this before parent begins You know, we're we're speaking of this today because we love the band We love the legacy of the band and we only want The band to be successful moving forward so parent go ahead Yeah, normally there's like, you know, we're not unanimous on the panel But you know, I think in all of Judas Priest fandom I think this is going to be pretty unanimous because I haven't seen one person writer critic fan or otherwise who's come out and said this is a good deal like Sean said, you know And it's funny like yesterday. I had some, you know, real life work to do And then, you know, my phone I started getting a few messages here and there from people and I kind of cut a piece of it And I kind of thought what I was reading was kind of like some kind of a joke, you know Or some kind of a I don't know. It's not April fools And then, you know, I finished what I was doing and I go online and I read what's going on I'm like, shit, like this is really happening and being more of a business Management type and being more on that side whenever I've worked in music Uh, I'm like How could a manager Like if it was the band's idea and the band came to their manager and said, here's what we're thinking How could any manager not say Ask me you're thinking I mean, I mean, you're You're going on your 50th anniversary tour no less. You're celebrating what you have been for the last 50 years Like excuse me if I'm wrong other than maybe before rockerola, you know, they were always A two-guitar band is what they were known for It's like they were one of the pioneers of the the dueling axe attack sound I mean bands like iron maiden probably don't even exist if june's priest doesn't do what they do first so I don't really see I I'd love to be a fly on that wall. I just don't know how That decision can be arrived at Broughts to management And having it been, you know, cleared and okayed it just it just you can't Explain the inexplicable and it just makes Zero sense. I mean, it would just look weird. I've probably seen priest 15 times in my life, you know You know, so many tours twice with ripper, you know With with Richie a couple every iteration that I could have possibly seen given my age And it would just look so weird and I don't believe for a second By the way, there's not going to be a ghost player behind a curtain who they're paying peanuts or something I don't know like just Or it's going to be enhanced with tapes. It's just it's not what priest is about It's just it's so wrong on so many levels and like Sean said there is going to be Another second guitar player Maybe someone new to the fold the way Richie was new to the fold but fans came to love him You know, I wouldn't be in love with it. That's a pretty big statement to come out and say we're now a four piece It doesn't really sound like there's going to be somebody else on stage Yeah, that that's a pretty big statement It's one thing to say that Andy won't be touring with us and we're going to be looking for someone else But to say they're a four piece. That's a pretty big statement that and and I thought what Sean did at the start I thought hey, you know and he's a really in demand producer and he probably has a lot of projects going on And he just can't do it And then I thought okay, maybe he did it on the cheap a little bit It has a favor to them for the for the fire power tours And now we probably said okay guys if I'm going to put my production business kind of on hold again for the next year Whatever it is You know, I'm going to need to make a decent wage and maybe that's when that's probably when they said Well, maybe they were maybe they were paying him on salary right for a whole year and they go Well, you know, he's not a member. He's salary, that's right He's salary and they go look if you guys want to retain my services for the next year or two And we don't know if we're going to be on tour or not. You got to pay me. So That's how it kind of ended right look if he's saying no to work. I mean this guy isn't probably but uh But I'm different than you guys I'm kind of like happy Andy sneak is not there anymore because I didn't want him there in the first place Well, but here's the thing I saw them twice on the firepower tour very early and very late When I saw them early in the tour on that tour of deep purple Andy was a little stiff and it just seemed a little awkward But by the time I saw them at the end of the tour in a theater in albany Uh, you know, they they had really homogenized and I was I was thrilled at the show. I thought it was great So if Andy say stayed I would have been fine with it It's just but you know, like again, I'm guessing they didn't want to pay him and let's face it The band's probably hemorrhaging money, you know, they're they're getting there. There's no record They're not selling a lot of tickets So there's not a lot of money coming in, you know on the front end to finance things So, you know, I guess it's a lot easier to cut things four ways than it is to cut things five ways, you know Of all the ways to save money Our player out. I I can't believe that I cannot believe It's oh, we didn't want to pay another guitar player. They could get another guitar player to play for free easily He's always you know, I mean you honestly think that when Ronnie James deal hired a 17 year old kid in 1986 That he didn't know he wouldn't have to pay more than 300 bucks a week. We're in the same situation here talented journalist talented guitarists or musicians in general who are looking at You know a crack at at major venues They will work for cheap until they establish their name as viable names I find it. I've always been against paying people below scale But look, I don't know what the union scale is right now for the musician Union, but I'm sure it can be had relatively Cheap, you know the tickets for the show Uh That's something else. I want to talk about the tickets for the show are still what 75 bucks Sure, it's not iron maidens 200 dollar ticket But for a band that essentially is a shadow of what it once was It remains a fair amount of money. They're not a club band. They like to claim. They're still a theater small arena band and And this is the other thing that really upsets me is that they're announcing this while people have already paid their tickets for the current tour Those tickets that all all of us bought for the Laval show in may that was postponed last fall We've had this ticket these tickets for for months and months and months had I known Six months ago when the tickets went on sale that I'd be seeing a quartet Maybe I would have said, you know what? I know a really really good Judas Priest cover band playing in an east hand bar that I would attend for much less money And but then you know, you know, you've lost sabotage and gained queens, right? So I mean the the tour is to me. It's still worth it I don't think I'd give up my ticket because Andy Sneep who I don't really care if he wasn't the bad or not Isn't going to be there. I don't know like that's just me and I like Andy Sneep I think he's a great producer and he's a great guitarist. I'm just saying he's not the make it or break it for me You know, it's how it sounds. I mean, I like I said, I'm the only guy that's in a band here Every band I've been in has has had two guitars. Are you saying we're not talented in our own, right? Is that what you're saying? You know, we have our own bag. We're putting the metal voice band together Like, okay, so they're either going to play a backing track of a rhythm guitar when he plays his lead Which is going to be lame as shit if they do that when you when you go You know how it is like, you know with docking when george lynch goes to do the solo The whole thing drops out and it's just the bass going do do do instead of a shin chin chin chin And the dynamics the power is so greatly diminished during the solo section not to mention How's electric eye going to sound the into the hell he ain't going to sound with one guitar So he's going to put he's going to push this even tied harmonizer and play the intro That is just it's lame on a million level. I don't know rush had one guitarist I don't know what you're talking about lame rush has one guitarist one of the greatest bands ever He was so talented. He didn't need another guitar bands But the rush band is a is the sound of a trio Yeah rush is not a trio of musicians. It's a quintet You know and this is where it doesn't work if I go see flat and scrubs playing banjo And you know what today it's only flat No, you got a problem Same thing if I go see the rolling stones and keith richard said that we decided We're just keeping one guitarist on stage says no, you can't do that You know look at anvil exciter voivod Oh, there's so many bands, you know, they have one guitarist and they're just so talented those guitars It sounds good enough the only band I would say that didn't work was accept It's except when they went with one guitar wolf. It just didn't sound great It depends what the guitar players are doing are the two guitar players doing the same thing or they doing different things It depends on the music's constructed Judas Reese is a band whose music is constructed for two guitars Like none of us have really heard what it would sound with one guitar player Could eddie van halen being two there could there be two bands with eddie van halen just playing the other side here It's it's apples and orange. I mean Every time they're you know, all the trade-off lead sections Faulkner is going to be doing every one. There's going to be no rhythm guitar Under it like I said, the only the only thing I can see is they're going to play a backing track A recorded guitar during it and that is just Cheese to the to the nth degree. I wanted to say one thing though that This is this is a boost For kks priest though because now people are going to go like four piece bail And they're going to some of those some of those People that were skeptical on the kks priest thing can go right over and go I got one of the original Priest guitar players still shredding it. I got two guitars. I got all the cool songs being performed, right? This is such a such a miscalculation I don't you know, we're we've got to really try and get into the minds like what is their perspective What are they thinking? Is this is this like a new coke blender? Like is that that level of a new coke blender? Yes The marketing people were scratching their head. I thought this would work But shan just said it guys he said, you know miscalculation mismanagement And I was having this debate with someone today online saying in the 80s in north america The priest and maiden records and tours Sold about the same they had about the same profile the same coverage and magazines Maiden and priests were on the same level They both switched singers. They both kind of went down kind of to the same degree And then they both did reunions You tell me Whose reunion has been more well strategized planned out unsuccessful maidens or priests And tell me why you think that is because there's a gentleman named rod smallwood Yeah, calculated every detail of the band. We're gonna do nostalgia tour We're gonna do osvestre and then we're gonna capitalize right after we do osvestre and we're gonna do Nostalgia tour new record tour nostalgia tour new record tour Did priests do 30th anniversary of defenders of the faith tour? No, would you have gone to that? Yeah, you probably would have you know, so maiden It was just so perfectly calculated with merch tie-ins and video game tie-ins and beer tie-ins I mean, you could like the commercial commercialization of music or not But from a management standpoint maidens return to the scene and reunion was textbook It's a business case that could be in music university on how to execute a reunion And Judas priests reunion is just the opposite They did osvestre just like maiden did and they could have capitalized on that But then they kind of walked away for too long after the tour And they didn't get any traction in the u.s. And then it was just All right, Stefan. I know you're itching to say something I want to continue on on parent's point of of roth smallwood You know maiden has It's it's essentially a A band of very very intelligent people. I mean, it's not just roth smallwood, but steve harris is not an idiot You know bruce dickinson may have a ujigo, but he's not an idiot But when you have the combination of a great manager and a great band leader Who's very intelligent? You can achieve incredible things now. What does Judas priests have glenn kipton? and his wife These are not the people who should be making decisions in this band because clearly they don't know what they're doing They're all in it for themselves. They're not in it for the fans. They're not in it for the legacy They're not in it for the future And I bet you something that their mistakes will cost them money Because the value of a Judas priest concert ticket has now dropped by 40 percent. That is my I find that hard to believe with andy sneak not being there. I don't know. I just It's not andy. It's a fact that it's a four piece. Yeah Okay, Sean give us the economics here. I mean how how much really is it digging in their pocket to not have Andy sneak Play with them. Is it really gonna? You know, are they gonna really go in the red here the last time that I went and saw priests, you know The last tour there was a freaking line of like a hundred people to buy merch So I mean the first 50 people would have paid andy sneeps weekly salary It was the the money that they made selling those lame shirts Everything they had I didn't there wasn't one thing in their merch booth out of their 20 designs that looked cool to me I mean all the decisions they make like I said, they look like they have no money This this is going to be interpreted by people as a money thing Because they're they're damage control and their press Strategy of rolling this out is completely unclear as to why People that were on this we're having this discussion trying to guess The thought process of how this makes sense one of one of our Trying to get into their heads is maybe it's on the money. Look at all their music videos They they look like they're so amateur compare the kk's priest music videos the Judas Priest video Compare the iron maiden. So when we talk about iron maiden Judas Priest Judas Priest Has even a more mainstream reach and iron maiden because they've got radio heads They've got living after midnight on the radio every day They've got you've got another thing coming on the radio every day iron maid doesn't have that and yet they're exponentially farther So much Pugel than Judas Priest because of their imagery Look how they wrote look at look at the all their designs of their t-shirts their beer It looks cool. The Judas Priest stuff does not look cool that album cover for firepower is horrible I would never buy a t-shirt that had that on it and so that's just it's just like I said It's a litany of of one thing after another no kk in the band Let's roll out a coffee table book for five hundred dollars You know like all the things Perrin you said, you know no calculation of following it up They were very very similar in iron maiden that they both put out sub par records, you know um The freaking You know priests has had sub par records except for firepower and so has maiden they followed similar paths But again, you know, it's you gotta roll that whoever's making the decisions whether it's management or the guys in the band They they the the the facts and the results It's a result oriented business and you look at where the results are now They're getting devastated in the public right now. It's not good So whatever the reasons are we are trying to figure out what the reason Well, let's let's talk about the reasons. So, uh, there was a post by management and I'll keep it at that publicly on uh, facebook and it said something like this fans need to accept this bad Sorry fans need to accept this Because it was a band's decision something all five of them discussed in depth and all five agreed This was the way forward and he was not fired. He was always been a hard musician And did a great job, but the band members made this decision trust them to have made the right choice They're all very experienced Professional guys, you know what you're doing. They know what they're doing have a little faith Say no He wasn't fired. He's not playing. How is he not fired? I mean, that's just ridiculous And it's a bad decision How much sway does do richie and scott really have in the band really like They had a meeting this do scott and richie have equal say to rob and in ian Somehow I don't think so, you know, sometimes I don't think the voting shares are exactly the same, you know, so Well, I mean it was a decision and the decision a it could have been They weren't getting along with andy or b it was a financial decision. They couldn't uh, you know, keep up with the payments I mean, there's only two ways about it, right? It can't be richie saying, you know what guys, I just want to play all by myself I don't want anybody else doing any other guitar. I mean Heart surgery it's really shouldn't be the case, you know, you're one guitarist that you have with you, you know I'm praying richie's okay. It's really horrible. What happened to him. It's such a young age But like, you know, you might want to have some backup out there too, you know, I'm like, geez, you know, it's crazy Look, I don't think it's going to affect my decision to see the band. I think I'm going to go see the band anyways I hope you guys are going to come with me, but We already have tickets. Look, I'm one of those people. I've been a priest apologist for the longest time Jimmy you still think foreigner is a band even though they don't know No, that's that's that's parent. They were great Last time I saw a foreigner was amazing. Look, look You guys not a single original guy on state guys wait, but so you guys know except maybe Sean, but I'll I'm a huge Leonard Skinner fan. Leonard Skinner is one of my favorite bands. They're not even a band anymore But you know, but they they do what they can to keep the legacy alive. The singer is the deceased singer's brother Ricky Medlock and Gary Rosenton have been involved although Gary's sick right now and Damon Johnson's like they They have competent players You know, they've always been a three-guitar band. They're still three. They don't they don't say let's just have Gary Rosenton out there And nobody else to save money Uh, you know, they have guys from gam Yankees and black crows the southern rock ilk or kind of as the fill in players It makes sense as much as it can make sense Like I've never been against bands going out there and making a living and doing what they need to do You know, I I'm as long as the product is good. Hey case priest Leonard Skinner foreigner That's fine It's it's my job as the buyer of a ticket to know what I'm getting if if I'm going to see journey or foreigner And I don't know Steve Perry's not there. I don't know that Lou Graham's not there I'm an idiot and that's my fault now promoter is putting a picture of Sebastian Bacow skid roll up in front of the club and that's what he's selling Well, that's kind of dirty business, but you know these bands it's legit My bigger problem here is Judas Priest. It's not a foursome. It's a fivesome So it could be a new young player like Richie was it could be a known named brand guy that'll make us go. Hmm. It's kind of cool You know, uh John Sykes On that note, Stefan if they were to turn around and say, you know what let's bring somebody else on stage Who would you like to see? replace Andy Sneep who replaced KK Downing In my opinion, uh, you know, I've seen all the the quiz the pose that you know the polls I don't really care at this point. I think priests Doesn't need a big name They need a competent name Somebody who will blend in with Faulkner somebody who will do Jewel lead Not just the last tour where it was rhythm plus Faulkner doing the solos. We want jewel leads, which is their sound For me I I would be okay with taking an obscure guy Right out of uh guitar academy who knows how to do it Man award then Okay, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, somebody who has who has the skills the same young presence Yes, and the talent to to you know to to perform to the level of Judas Priest No young player has ever heard the sound of a band Frank Frank says a George Lynch Richie's father-in-law What do you think about that shot this George Lynch fit into Judas Priest? Like I love George Lynch. I love the guy, right? He's a one guitarist band kind of guy I got the perfect guy who Okay The perfect guy to fit in is Hank Sherman for merciful faith Hank Sherman is a humongous Judas Priest fan his whole Every he's all about early Judas Priest. That's that's his whole why he started playing guitar. He loves Judas Priest. He's also even though I'm Not happy with Hank Sherman right now. I'm still I'm still giving him the job That's good. That's nice of you. Not only does he love Judas Priest He can play his ass off. He would be incredible writing music with them too. He's a riff He's the riff king man and He would bring some heavy metal street cred straight into the band again All those hardcore freaking merciful faith fans. I mean that that is a You know a legacy name that would be people would get totally freaking fired up About and after that I would say my boy Roy Z and after that I would say hey They've already stolen all my other band members get kasey traps from k Look at you pimping them all out. How about you parent? I'm getting like Michael shanker. I'm getting uh, let's see Yeah, that'll go. I'll make a course need a straws Michael denner. Michael denner. No, you don't think Michael denner. He's a good guitar player But he doesn't he doesn't love Judas Priest. I mean he loves Judas Priest, but not like Hank I mean Hank is all about Judas. I love Hank. Hank's great. Kai Hansen. There's no way Kai Hansen would do that But yeah guys stop building super groups. It's getting it's silly. John Sykes. Okay. Well, if he ever comes out of hiding then I guess John Sykes So so here's Here's the obvious answer. Don't give us a top 10 list here. We just need one or two But first of all, no one is what we've No one's saying it because the ship is sailed but kk. That's the obvious. That's the obvious And I'll give you another one in a second, but but here's the thing Guys, do you know how many bands that don't like each other are out there on tour? I can name you a whole bunch of bands every band. Yeah, but you know like I van Halen on their last tour David Lee Roth had his own bus and was in a different hotel and the rest of them uh, you know Poison Brent Michaels hate each other. I can you know, Tommy Lee and Molly crew hate each other Like a lot of big bands don't see each other till they get to the stage So the obvious answer if this wasn't going to happen was make the fans happy on your 50th anniversary tour Bring back kk. You don't even need to get along You just need to meet on stage for a couple hours every night Maybe and maybe for a sound check can be occasional meeting. So that's that's the obvious thing because hell even made him Guess what guys? There's a couple of camps in maiden. So I don't know that Yeah, but I don't believe that that's why I called ripper before the show. I go. Hey, man, you know KK's priest is not touring Sean Sean L which I could break some news here the drummer from you know cage and kk's priest He's jumping on the Ross the boss tour So So they're gonna be They're not doing anything and you know during that touring period. So I was asking ripper. I'm like, hey man Is there any chance that you know, and and I don't think that anybody knows but maybe that's Maybe that's still something out there. That would be a you know, a strong way to salvage This pr nightmare that they're in. I mean, that's what you know, again, I went to I went to priest Man of war and merciful fate all saying no, I would I would go to like I'd go to gus g man My friend gus g I think gus g would be like the perfect fit. I mean Then there's the howlford guys, right? There's metal mic and there's rust parish You know rush rust parish who's really satchel from steel panther has great chops and he's been touring for the longest time rust parish was in uh Was in fight. So you have metal mic. You have rust parish. There's guys who play over the years Yeah, I I you know, I don't disagree with that either. So they can easily have An interesting good, you know, they can have a cheap young gun. They could have a guy who's more high profile Who's going to want to get paid but it could really ask the chops or they can go with the george lynch john sikes route But I just don't think that would work, you know, I think us g would be the perfect fit You know, I think you could do it all. Yeah You know, he'd he'd look the part. He'd sound the part you could do it all But it's all fantasy. Unfortunately, unfortunately, and you know what I told him to send his application in I did I told us send it in They're not accepting applications. It would seem they're not accepting applications. Yeah, and I'd love a do a priest This is the opportunity do do what michael schenker did do a priest fest Where you tour with multiple singers and rotating band members, you know The michael schenker fest tour when I saw that it was amazing. Yeah, you know, you had robin mccally You had gray and bonnet. You had gary barton Uh, you had a set band, you know, this is their opportunity. It's so amazing. This is like the 50 year tour And it just it keeps diminishing Less and less guys pretty soon. It's just gonna be rob What? Rob Halford with a tambourine pretty soon. Yeah, but but imagine you had rob doing most of the show You had a ripper coming in do a couple of songs and maybe do a duet in the encore Imagine that you had kk and and richie and then glenn makes an appearance at the end doing what he can do And you have the happy story book ending that everybody would love, you know Yeah, just never there's never a happy story. That's the problem Maybe we're going to dig a little bit about this Go shine. You know what? I said man award did that for you know one show. I was there at that one where they had ross at the earth shaker Um, you know, that would have been something again It's not only is it satisfied the fans, but it's a money maker. It is a freaking It's a cash machine like who is making these decisions and what? What are they based on it's it's a freaking mind boggler man Look, there's a lot of pettiness at play too. Let's face it. I mean look look again back to mated Bruce graciously played some blaze songs that the fans like Uh, there was no pettiness. Nobody was mad at blaze. They're like, hey, yeah, sign of the cross is a pretty cool song Bruce is gonna do it clansman's pretty cool song. Bruce will do it But because of pettiness, you know priest you can barely find the ripper albums They've they've rob has never done Uh, you know, hell is home or bloodstained or whatever any, you know, just a nod Again when they did the epitaph tour and they apparently did a song from every album Oh, no, they didn't And and here you have a 50 anniversary tour. I don't know guys It's just there seems to be such a disdain for their history be it kk ripper or anyone else This was such an opportunity with the 50 year anniversary to kind of do something And end it well and I know what made it right into the sunset. They'll do it well And priest is just not gonna ride into the sunset. Well So, okay, so let's just go around the table fast fast Will you still if they remain a four piece will you still go see them live? Steph I have I have pit tickets in LA Um, I'm you know, I go mostly obviously I love the songs everything But being you know, a howlford want to be you know, I go to hear the howlford voice primarily Of course, I'm gonna go But I mean between this and merciful fate not having michael denner It's just a it's fricking sucks and these bands Somehow got me to be me to be punished By the way, I did I did rock s rob howlford I go What do you think about the the new three tremors and he said yeah, I like it I did that for you. I did that for you. I appreciate that man. That was awesome. Stefan Look, my ticket was bought six months ago Or probably more than that and the show is in another four months If it happens Could I get a refund right now? I don't think so Would I? Here's a tough part This is a show where I'm taking my daughter Her and I have been going to see a lot of metal shows in the past 10 15 years She's never seen priest. I was about to introduce her to junis priest She was more interested in sabbaton And I said stick around for priest So sabbatons off the bill And now we're left with priest and I queen's right too Yeah, I'm talking about the original show And I said there are bad news sabbatons not there But there's this band queen's rights from my days that you might enjoy but then I thought wait a second That's queen's rights with some really heavy lineup changes from the beginning too Which I never really enjoyed And then priest which is not the priest I want to introduce my daughter to Maybe just maybe I'll get my money back Todd Todd is a million times better singer than jeff tate right now Oh, I know. I know. When you're gonna go see Todd you're gonna say oh, you know what it's a good thing They change singers. That's all I'm gonna say. It was great. I went and just saw him I was like two feet from him Hardly anybody at this show in a casino. I took my hat off and he recognized me He's like Sean you can sing this queen of the rye come people people are looking at me like Who is this beauty talking stop? Does he still play queen of the rye? Yeah, sure. Yeah Right off the record my friend right off the rye Hardly make him a heavy metal band again Because my very first my very first queen's rye show Could never be beaten And that was when they opened for twisted sister in 1983 in a time For me that was the best queen's rye show I ever saw and I saw them half a dozen time after that So it's hard to beat that first You know But okay, I've never watched Todd so maybe I'll be impressed pleasantly surprised pleasantly surprised parent Let me guess you're going. Whoa. Look, you're the Leonard Skinner guy I would whoever there's nobody left and you're still going. So we know We have tickets. So yes, I'm going. Yeah, but look even let's say I didn't have tickets I would have a hard time knowing that Judas Priest is playing like 10 minutes from my house And I'm not there. So just like just like we all drive by a car crash and we kind of have to look at it Although we probably shouldn't I would have a hard time not going. There's probably a limit to what I would pay But I already have tickets. I love queen strike. I love the Todd version of queen strike and they're opening this show So, yeah, I go to hear the songs And I it'll probably be the last time I would see rob live and any chance I can get to see queen strike I'll take so yeah, I'm a metal fan. Call me a sucker I'm not happy. You know, I'm kind of holding my nose and doing it a little bit But yeah, I'm gonna be there you guys I'm gonna go because I think I want to go see Judas Priest and you know I couldn't care less if Andy was there or not and I think there's gonna be a fifth member They're gonna put another guitarist on stage. I really do feel that No, it's gonna be a computer playing That's gonna be the fifth member of the computer playing at crack I think they're gonna after all this not the show, but just all the outrage from all the fans I think they're gonna have to revisit it. It's still a few months away. I'm not sure when it starts exactly in April, I believe I think I have to revisit it I'm temp. I'm going 50 50 on this. I think the fan outrage Will eventually reach the band and and smarter head will prevail Maybe maybe what if what if promoters start saying? Yeah, about that show. I'm not really too sure anymore about the reserve about the uh, the guarantee you're asking for Because fans are not reacting well. I'm not sure this show will sell this time And when they start seeing this Watch them find that little kid willing to play for cheap All right, so I'm gonna ask everybody out there now you text us If you've bought tickets, are you still going or do you plan on going and buying tickets? So We'll see what the survey says You can't get a refund because of a change in a band member It's not it's not something that's in the fine print that you could do I think the fan thought that was in the fine print. You can't call up ticket master and say hey Uh, you know mille left mille vanilli. So now it's only vanilli. So I I want my money back All right queen bodisha saying if they replace the guitarist, he better be just as good as richie But richie will still be there. But yes, I guess same caliber I'm out Not going that's lossefer's words They cannot do a four piece that scott. Yes going but they need a fifth member. That's bf gs Merrick is saying not going. Cheryl is saying I bought mine six months ago. I am still going So it's you could see a 50 50 split there And here's the problem and why they were stupid from a business standpoint again The advanced sales for the tour are soft if you go on ticket master and look at any other shows There's a lot of dark blue dots that show the available seats. So the advanced sales are not good Mostly to do of the world that we live in and a lot of other things But if they thought announcing this now Was gonna make their advanced sales go better or or the walk up for that matter like again I'm a management guy This this this the management of this is just maddening. It makes no sense to me It's it's gonna hurt your advanced sales. It's gonna make promoters say Shit just walk away with half the guarantee and maybe we'll just Some people were thinking oh, it's because it's it's a big plan. They're gonna bring kk out That's why they've announced it this way And I don't their tour starts in six weeks. I'm pretty sure they would have announced it already if that was happening Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe they're shutting down the canadian leg of the tour or the canadian part of the tour I there's only four canadian dates at the end if they happen they happen if they don't they don't You know, I guess they're looking at the bottom line right now All right guys, that's pretty much it. You have anything else dad Sean was nice meeting you. I just sent two friends request on facebook Okay, I'll have to I'll eliminate some friends to get down below the pipe They'll see who needs to go to get you under the limit just just eliminate those guys from Nigeria there One of those are two of those guys Yeah, I gotta I gotta wait to make you really rich overnight I just wanted to say um The only way this will get remedied again is like parents said, you know with the pocket If you look at the threads, I've looked at you know hundreds of comments and you know 20% of them 100% of them are all negative or at least 99% But 20% of them are saying i'm not going or I want to refund I mean that's that's where people are at with this that even if it was 10% It's not it's not good. Especially parents saying ticket sales are already soft the venues the la one They moved the la one from the microsoft to this freaking place I'm never even heard of and it looks like a movie. It looks like a small imax movie theater. So So so again, I think that the the whole premise of this show was to uh, I guess Explain our frustrations And the fans frustrations to emphasize that and hopefully by this and everybody's reaction and their comments and all their feedback You know, they will get another guitarist and hopefully that guitarist will be a frank uh, not frank uh hank scherman People would go people would freak over that. I love hank scherman. That's the move right there. You know what? They're not gonna do it or gusty or gusty. It's gonna be no guitar player It's gonna be some backing track And you know, we don't know that we don't know that yet. I'm I'm telling you And what about the the extra freaking stress and work that richie's got to do? I mean, he just came off a heart reconstruction And you know, I'm sure he's feeling great and everything but now he's playing twice the leads and to your point Again a public post made by management Why not wait to see them live and decide they aren't recording any backing tracks or any of the other things That are being said here They know exactly what they are doing. So try And trust them. So to your point I don't really are they rehearsing right now? Are they rehearsing as a four piece because they're so I'm just giving the other side here. I'm just giving the other side. They all live in different places There's a lot. I just don't see that they're even together yet rehearsing for the tour So how are they even working out these parts right now? How are they working? So I mean again, man, sorry jane You know, I don't say it was jane I don't manage Judas Priest But you know, I've been around this a while and I can put two and two together I'm pretty sure they're not even rehearsing yet. So I don't know Again, we love Judas Priest We're doing this show because we love the band and we want to see them prevail And make some great music perform great live And give us that one last tour that we'll always remember and we get passed down to our children and our grandchildren In great memories and on on on another note, you know Stefan it's strange enough. I want to tell you this before like when my son you wanted to go see kiss when he was younger He didn't even know who was in the band You know, he didn't know that ace was replaced and peter chris was replaced He just wanted to go see kiss like he just to him kiss is just kiss So even for your daughter Judas Priest will still be Judas Priest because there's no sort of attachment to KK or glen or anyone else, right? It's just That right if kiss went on stage as a trio without makeup Your son would know well, I mean you can't have kisses a trio though Eddie trunk talks about that all the time though bands, you know It's just it's all about the name and people don't even you know know or care who's in the band they just see foreigner and they hear the songs and 90 percent of the of the people that are there Are not tuned in enough, you know, they're still selling out just like you said Leonard skinner I remember seeing a skid row open for somebody and johnny solinger with his long blonde hair Nobody there didn't even know it that it wasn't sebastian pop Casual fans casual fans don't know I think that like the younger generation There are not us because like guys like us we've sort of followed it from the start We know who the members are we know who's changed and who hasn't changed But the younger generation they care less about that because they don't have that history with the bands that we did So on that note guys, thank you so much for all your input Appreciate it so much. Thank you for jumping on Sean always a pleasure. It's the fan parent. Thank you so much. We'll see you guys I'll talk to you guys again very very soon. So this is sunday on a tuesday Thank you