 Welcome to the breakfast and plus CV Africa time for us to check out the front pages of a national dailies We have tundee Kuala Walee who's a standby. He'd definitely be making his imputes on some of the top stories this morning Good morning tundee Kuala. Well, it's good to have you join us. Happy new year once again. Yes, please All right I like to set up with the daily independent newspaper this morning and we'll be looking at the top stories on the daily independent newspaper The banner caption says 2023 elections APC presidential battle revs up as governor my joints raised That's the caption. So you have different persons probably you saw again I just be joining the race that we can tell just might I would join the fray if ticket to zone to Southeast says or G ozo Kahlu. That's what you find. Well banks is Nigeria's economy growing 2.5% in 2022 quite interesting Buhari Jonathan IBB article the ones are key wiki. Who's a dimmer? Mons, Sean a car and as a Sean a car The head of former head of state president direct flags to be fly at half mast for three days and Away from that. Buhari. Okay is creation of diaspora investment trust fund. It's also captioned on the daily independent PDP act security agencies to invite APC leaders for questioning Those enforcing sit at home are criminals. I mean, I'm really shocked by statement from the Indigenous people of Biafra. That's I pop quite interesting 2023 presidency white to noble this declaration won't stop vice-president Yama Siba and Joe That's what the VPA is quoted to say no aspirant is better place to succeed. Buhari Dan Yeah, I'm your super joy supporters are saying all of that shake up in Nigerian army The details will be available if you check it and COVID-19 Fcta to shut out on vaccinated staff and visitors from January 17 That's going to be a lot of drama But that's the much we can take this morning on the daily independent newspaper now to the punch newspapers Big story do need Malami move to block convention Governors rise against interim party chair Three governors justice minister push consensus agenda to block tinuble Someone is manipulating convention not to hold says pervert a progressive governor's DG And also Malami doesn't hold any position in the APC plays no role says media aid Umari umahi rather meets Buhari declares 2023 presidential ambition Again suspected headsmen strike in on doq you to on a farm gone down three rescuers Still on the punch workers union fears job losses as standard chartered closes Nigerian branches 2248 megawatts of power stranded monthly in 2021 Despite blackouts and also subsidy mobilized for protests NLC directs affiliates and CSOs Buhari jennathan o'basson Joe governors mourn as ex ING head Shona Khan dies at 85 We can also find on the punch federal government overshoots dead servicing by 1.15 trillion Naira in 11 months Says a document. Those are the major stories on the punch this morning all right away from the punch newspaper, let's check out the nation and The caption says convention Divided APC governor sick Buhari's help and Underneath the PGF meeting shifted Catech a committee can't be stampeded That's also another one underneath the board caption. Why businesses are shrinking by World Bank and super egos so above ferros in the afghan tie and Excitement over to nubu's declaration presidential be declaration Cosclere for le con ballo goon allubado. That's also another one and Flags fly at half mast for ex head of state Shona Khan my joint 2023 presidential race These are the headlines on the nation and now to the Guardian newspapers just a few here 2023 like to know boo my informs Buhari of interest in presidency Suggests political solution to Southeast insecurity want to an asset to stay of politics Oshimba Joe not threatened by tinnaboo's declaration says support group national convention Cots may run affairs of APC stakeholders one And APC poses no threat to PDP in 2023 we K boasts National flag to fly at half mast as Nigerians pay tributes to Shona Khan Also on the guardian this morning Buhari okay's investment trust fund to promote foreign remittances Bandit skill man kidnapped pregnant wife and children others in kaduna IPOB disowns and forces of Citadum order condemned shooting in Inugu 15 women 20 children rescued and 50 others fear trapped as church collapses in Delta Think those are the stories that we can share on the guardian this morning To Nicole hourly. Good morning. Once again. Thanks for joining us Good morning, my brother. There's a couple of interesting stories. I'm not sure which you would like to kick off from right Let me start from the passage of the system as a Shona Khan We Is a former head of state You will recall as a women's junior was in spirit crisis It regards to transition from the military to civilians And the then military update Didn't want to remove this power All sorts of programs all sorts of initiatives All sorts of pressure certain to air at the end of it all National come and mark that head of state Even though it wasn't a military man but the truth is that Whether it is constitutional or constitutional Because if you recollect the matter went to court and I think Honourable justice the law for the clear the government of the national come as nearly gas For the truth of the matter is that That period of our history cannot be agreed and so for that reason he's been treated as a former head of state And we also want to remember him as a great business man to remember at the time He was the chairman and the manager director of UAC of Nigeria And only miss worship of german and mc cap company which has a lot of prosperity It was in fact I remember it was underlying that a mr. Biggs An entry business started And it was during the left so many of it all is that chief and shoneka was also a very great friend of the military because if he wasn't He couldn't have been nominated or allowed to become a military head of state Furthermore He appears to me to be somebody who places politics like that of the kaduna mafia He hardly addresses press conference You hardly see him in public but he knows what's bought him to press when it comes to power articulation He also has friends in the high places who have regard for him and for whom he also has a very good regard We win at this time Treat him as a former head of state Look at him as a successful businessman and to that extent give him all the respect that he deserves even though we may not agree with the way and manner he has undoed the country for example and then some of the things the public did when he was the chairman and mg of the usa My condolence to his family My condolence to the entire Nigerian people All right That's all right let's move away from the shanakons case and look at the daily independence where a lot of peasants might just be joining the race You have governor mai joining the race and odd use or kalu saying that he probably would join if you know the ticket has been zoned to the sadist What are your thoughts on the 2023 elections and the candidacy we're already having What I hope is if it holds it should be great for Nigerians at the hold What do you mean when you say if it holds you hope it holds Well what I am saying this is that when you look at them they are a number of insecurity both of them are rural insecurity it's a very great threat to the successful conduct of that election if you also look at the economic situation of the country the bankruptcy of the country where the money will come from to finance that election you see a mystery to me all the more all the different political parties that we have in the country to pay they are all in this array look at the front page of one of the papers the APC have found it difficult to hold this convention even though they have been planning it for almost 2 years now then you also look at what is happening internationally with regards to when you are getting funding to alternate some of these elections as we used to do before and it's out with the COVID pandemic that we are up in our hands and the whole world has this hand that we will get the kind of support that we usually get for the conduct of that election furthermore chances are that not many people want to turn out to either vote or to register from 2023 if the whole world has not contacted COVID 19 before that time those are my fears why I think it might be difficult if not impossible to hold that election as regards to the candidates let us be fair to them any Nigerians according to constitution who are to head up to this coup d'etat level and who is the Nigerian by part of that whatever is allowed under our law to aspire to become the president of the federal public of Nigeria we cannot take that away from anybody who aspires whether it be Umari or Kado whether it be Asimov but the truth of the matter is that we have to look at the precarious situation in which the country is to take and take the time to look at those things that we want to see the qualities that we want to see in the presidential or in the presidential candidates or in the sense that he is going to lead Nigeria and express that the all these people who are steadfast now or who are silent or do they miss that benchmark do they have those qualifications my answer is no most of them age is not on their side their health are not good they are also businessmen who have been stressed in the different sectors of the Nigerian economy and most time and all over the world businessmen don't make good positions they don't make good leaders simply because the possibilities are there that their better interests will always clash with their political interests and the country and the economy will be the one to suffer for it well I want to get your thoughts on the idea of going to inform the president of your intentions to run because we've seen that from David Umahi also the airborne state governor I've also seen a reaction from Kingsley Mogalu I think I believe that is sarcasm saying that he forgot to inform the president that he is going to be running or he plans to contest for president but of course the president did the same thing so let's get your thoughts on the idea of going to Aso Rock to inform the president under our law nobody supplies to give this to the president when he has a presidential ambition all the criteria that the president cares to do is under the Nigerian constitution it is also in the electoral act once you have met this condition once you have met this condition go to Mr. President to seek his consent or to inform him to come to the highway to Fablos what you see meeting Mr. President has become a tradition or a custom in Nigeria well not necessarily I don't think we saw a lot of this before this administration I don't remember anybody approaching Mr. President you will tell them that they will be running for president they too they may not do openly it was pretty much the same thing as we have seen it being done now the reason being that you find out if you don't have the parking of somebody like Mr. President it might be difficult for you to achieve your ambition to become the president of the country because the president of the federation of Nigeria with enormous power materially security-wise political-wise and even within the sphere of influence of who votes for who so it is better for anyone who has that kind of ambition and think it's a support because in politics when you have one number of nutrition to what you already have it's a plus-plus for you other more don't forget that most of these people who are the scientific officers like the presidency like the governor like a local government they do my head go they might see it as a slide that you want to become a local government in Tiana you want to become a governor you want to become a president without seeking their consent without consulting them I think that is the reason why some of these people go to the president sometimes don't go to the governor to tell them that they would like to contest one of these people or the other please collect that Chiba Baribe has gone to the city governor in I think is it more obvious to inform him that he would like to contest the governorship of the state come 2023 and the city governor has said that his ambition would not in any way affect the completion of his performance in office well to Nikola Wali also share your thoughts on the what do you feel might turn out because there's also comments with regards Vice President Yamio Shimbaju's camp you know and of course his followers saying that Volame Tinibu's ambition would not determine the president's own ambitions you know if he chooses to run for president and of course David Umahi also of the APC so it seems like there's going to be a couple of options at the APC you know well a couple of people who will want to run under the platform of the APC how do you see this playing out the ambition of the APC Professor Yamio Shimbaju and that of Achiwaju for example is a very big issue simply because the two of them are coming from the same camp and we remember that Achiwaju and his supporters have times it has to number third that it was Achiwaju and Nikola Tinibu that nominated the VP to be the running Mr. President so if the president you nominated to be the running who eventually became the vice president is contented to be the vice president and you are also interested there is no change there is a class of interest in that area and that takes us back to what we are doing around this course as to why people go to visit his professor to inform him to seek his content and then asking for support it is because of this like this wherever the president supports between Professor Yamio Shimbaju and the Achiwaju and Nikola Tinibu is likely to have an image over the other but looking at Professor Yamio Shimbaju he appears to be playing the game right and lives up to this point he has never tried to be counter-carried to be too outlawed he is very diplomatic and cautious in pushing his certain ambition to become the president of the country unlike for example, with zero respect Achiwaju and Nikola Tinibu have put to his own personal ambition for me, the modern the modern area because if we have this many people contested for the presidency now we will be able to have the choice we can assess to discriminate in a very critical manner and then go for the test of them but for me even between Professor Shimbaju and Achiwaju and Nikola Tinibu and Umari I haven't seen any person among them in the criteria I would like to speak in the coming presidency from 2033 all of them Achiwaju not to be on their side the Umari may have been a goblin there is not a spectacular about his achievement as goblin in the south Professor Yamio Shimbaju he is in charge of the economy the economy has been worthless under him of course for Achiwaju and Nikola Tinibu Achiwaju not on his side he has been in so many areas of our economy and the next place he has not been enjoying the life of us if you look at one of your experience under Yara Dua if you look at what the country is experiencing under President Boali no one who want to support the affiliations of Achiwaju and Nikola Tinibu on the grant of some of the issues of our nation which and his best business interest all over the place and of course there are other consumer packages that you would have to explain to the Nigerian people during the course of campaign I would prefer to be a more younger person alright I think that has been made as regards the candidacy for the 2023 presidential election fingers crossed and we look forward to some other persons joining the race making their intention known but we would like to share your thoughts on this other one the I-POP is saying that those enforcing sit at home order are criminals please repeat that again those enforcing sit at home orders are criminals this is according to I-POP Aisha a lot of things are happening in the south east that is very difficult to explain this time there are issues with regard to feeling the friction of digital bodily harm on people the government will point an accuser finger on I-POP and when the government does this I-POP itself will say that they have no hands in this check for example the killing of to Akin Yuli a very noble man the I-POP people who are net or were killed to have had a hand in the set but the I-POP people have also come out and said look that is a noble man that is a I-M-A respected people person is a community leader a community leader that will not have wished any wrong thing to happen to him we did not have anything to do with his death so and this controversy will keep going on until we are there the fundamental issues in the south east which is the agitation of I-POP and that agitation is not difficult to attract all we require to do is to conduct a referendum in the south east with regard to whether they want to be independent of Nigeria or they want to remain Nigeria whoever carries the case so the question is aren't you surprised that at this point I-POP is saying that those who are enforcing sit at home order I mean those people are criminals and we have over time seen the I-POP enforcing the sit at home order was that second letter you had surprising so they came that I-POPers are known that they have stopped the campaign for a sit at home order that it does not go well for their people but somehow some other person continue to enforce that sit at home order the truth is that there are so many discrimination groups in the south east today that it is difficult to point a finger accurately that this is the first thing who is enforcing the sit at home order or the no sit at home order these people started this that they have called it off and the sit at home order is still being enforced then something is wrong somewhere that's the reason why I said let's concentrate our effort on resolving the fundamental issues in the south east not that I have cut the problem on the head not that I have cut the problem on the topic not who knows all the problems any civil minded person who realize that the sit at home thing doesn't go well for the people of the south east it's like weakening yourself before the enemy comes for you look at also the directives which it has been a nice high pop game that no cow come from the south east I mean come from the north to be slaughtered or eaten in the south east anymore they've also banned some groceries and all that for God's sake if you remember what happened on the Nigerian civil war is it a cutting off for food supply for the south east the change of currency and some other programs and activities that were carried out that weakened the agitation the fight for the upper man at that period in time so if I pop or any of the sexes and religious groups were to be learning from east east they will not be carrying out the sit at home order but they are carrying out now they won't be finding cows from the north they will also not be finding groceries from the north they also don't require to begin to ask people to start to reciting the Siafra ancient in place of the Nigerian ancient ancient at this period in time the time is all right for that continue the agitation for a friend of then when that is done whatever is your desire will follow suit okay well on the punch also there is some controversy concerning the APC's convention it says here Bounie and Malamie move to block convention governors rise against interim party chair it also says here it says three governors justice minister push consensus agenda to block tenable someone is manipulating convention not to hold progressive governors DG and also Malamie doesn't hold any position in the APC so I mean there is some confusion with regard to the APC's convention that was of course a rumor to be going on or to be taking place in February Mr. Kolawale what would you describe this as and why do you think all of this is playing out what we are seeing the APC can be changed to the ISP we are now we remember that that party didn't grow organically rather what happened was that a conglomerate of different political parties came together they called the assembly a negative party they formed the APC and with the APC they use it they use the APC as a type to capture political power at state level and at the federal level now that a nation is coming and different people different individuals from the original different political parties have the ambition to become president to become governor then the truth is whoever is in control of the party structure is likely to get whatever ticket or flag is desired that is why we are having all these challenges with regards to holding the APC convention so as to the convention would determine the respective flag bearers at different times or in the nearest future because without the convention and without you choosing the aim of affairs of the party you at least can realize your political ambition whether you want to be president or you want to become governor and with regards to manami you might say that it's not a member of the executive committee of the APC but with enormous power at the commission at the afternoon of the presentation you and I would know that when the electoral act was referred to Mr. President for his accent it is not impossible that Mr. President would also have referred it to the afternoon of the presentation Mr. Manami to advise him on causes that concerns this like direct on issues that concern a national commission of resource and some of these other future items and if you whatever advice he gives that the president is likely to follow also remember that when the supreme court said that the city's governor shouldn't be the chairman or shouldn't be running the political party that they cannot be the executive of their state and also be the executive of the party it was Manami that intervened and said no that decision of the supreme court is not binding or will not affect the APC as a political party whereas the decision of the supreme court is very clear if the president would challenge the who took the case of the supreme court adjoined that is the president chairman of the APC in that suit whatever action that has been taken by the party especially with regards to the president became governor whose election was tonight it would have been nullified it was on technical grounds that the chairman of the APC was not joining that suit when it was instituted by the APC and the governor I think the governor of understate escaped being asked by the supreme court so it is a question for the control of the center of the party that is at the root of the inability of the APC to hold its convention each time he has planned to do it alright to Nicola Wally interesting speaking with you thank you so much for your time this morning and we of course as always wish you a very interesting day ahead thanks for joining us once again you too, thanks for coming Thoreau alright we'll take a short break and of course be sharing with you what happened on this day in history back in 2015 right after that my first major conversation comes up again this morning the biggest conversation in politics in Nigeria today political ambitions three and two hundred million Nigerians we'll be back