 I would like to get out as soon as possible like this all because I get a lot of stuff going on. So let's call the meeting order. It is Monday, May 7th. Oh, I'm working on a slipboard. Looks like we have a full board. We've got Katrina and Cheryl and a no-public comment. So one of the things that we have going on later is Cheryl Lynn's coming in for her review of the salaries. And I've wanted a little time prior to that to go into a productive session. So I think because there's no one here, I think this would be the best time to do that. So we don't get behind schedule. So I'll move to go into executive session and discuss employee matters. Any further discussion? All in favor? Would I? Aye. Okay, and that would be Justin. Well, thank you. How are you? Good thank you. How are you? Well, thank you. Thanks, everyone, for, sorry, I forgot mine. So why don't you guys roll forward, everybody? I'm trying to hold the motion now. Ray. And Kelly. Okay. There will be no action taken at this point. Okay. We'll be meeting the employee that was under discussion. Okay. Luke. Okay. So we're here to bribe you. I was wondering. Yeah. The booze is somewhere. Thank you so much. Is this your daughter? Yes. All right. So have you. Thanks guys for coming. I know there have been a lot of questions and we are hoping that tonight we can answer any questions, concerns that you folks have as far as the easement goes. You know, hopefully we at some point can put it to bed sooner than later, but we want to make sure that you guys, we understand it's your property. It's your baby. You know, I'm a property owner, so I know where you're coming from. So what can we do to help you out or questions answered or such? You know, I'll speak for myself certainly and thank you. We'll jump in wherever. We, a while in the sidewalk project, we never had any objections to that part of it. The only objections that we ever had were to the specific wording of the easement. And that primarily that it never had a termination date. Yep. And also probably a start date so that there could be a termination date that was a fixed amount of time. So, you know, that was really just the main concern. And it sounds like the HCCA transportation doesn't really like to tell you. Or commit, I guess, to a fixed end date. And it seems like Charlie Merriman was able to get them to agree to a five-year window. Yep. I guess that's, you know, that sounds okay to me. As long as we can have a, and the language in there can state that it will start ideally within the calendar year this year or some other very clear time. So that the five years can then be calculated. And... Sure. We have some, and so I was looking, say, and Charlie actually came up with kind of what you've talked about. But also it puts it on an agreement with the select board. So that way we can give you, actually we can give you a better agreement than I think the state can. As far as, like, guarantee that at the conclusion of the project that the easement is taken is concluded at that part. So it's not a five-year, it's at the end of that project in the states here. That's just, that's the end of the easement that day when we close it out. It's very different language than any original contract. Yeah. So, I don't know, you guys can take a look at that. But I think that should, and Charlie thought that that would answer your concerns. Because again, it's coming from the town you're getting it. And it's got some definite easement close dates on it for you. So you don't have to concern that someone's going to be coming across your line. I mean, no one would have any intention of doing any of those things. But, you know, you don't know. And it wasn't even so much ever that, you know, Pat and I were talking outside. I guess the state has a six-foot right of way anyway. That's not really our concern. But what if, you know, following the scope of the project we decide to sell our house and there's this easement on the property, that's alarming to, you know, a future home. I mean, that's the way the language of the original contract is, you know, that the easement applies to, you know, inheritors or purchasers or, you know. I know when you, those initial, when you start reading them, it does kind of sound like this is in perpetuity and how deep does it go. But I think this should make you comfortable in that it's, you know, we certainly can take that. It's, you know, it'll be concluded. There'll be ones that the project is concluded. The easement is concluded as well. Which is great. Yeah, I mean, it's made the whole time I thought that would seem like such an obvious thing for the state just to say. But, you know, and there are probably reasons maybe Pat can share some of the reasons behind that. I don't know. Well, the reason why B-Trans never likes to put a termination down in their easement agreements is because they never know how long the project is going to drag out. And we've seen it here with this really denying sidewalk project. And I've been managing this since 2014. So I've been at four years and sometimes they take longer than that sort of. Yeah. Right up, and we've had delays. Yeah. We've already had, we've had two or three significant delays on this project for various reasons. And there's also a whole deal with handling federal money, which is a lot of strings attached. So B-Trans, when they start a project, never knows when it will actually be built. So they don't like putting termination dates on easements because if there is a delay, let's say we want to be on the date of the expiration of the easement agreement, then they'd have to procure all new easements from all the property owners. Yeah. Because the delay in the projects, that's the reason. It's just the way they operate. So I know he sent you a couple of letters. Did you guys get a chance to see this here? Have we seen it? I believe that, yes. I believe that's what we were discussing. Oh, the attachments. It says, they may have revised one of those. Is this a short one here that I got from Charlie? They said the town would release the lien with the completion of the project. It sounds similar. It sounds similar? Yeah, I haven't seen the language of the one that we were talking about. So would this be, so would this and the, is this the five-year language? No, this is just the, or the town rule. The town agrees to probably complete the town rule. Yeah. So this, these, these documents would get attached to the original easement? That's my understanding, right? Yes. Yes. I understand that. I'm not expecting you to sign it right now, unless you'd like to. But if you want to take that with you, and as long as we, I guess we have an understanding that says what we're talking about. Yeah. You know, we just want to make sure that, you know, questions from you guys, because it is time sensitive. I mean, we're, to get it started this year, we're just waiting actually on your easement, and then we can get that to the state, and then we can do our, the bid process. The bid, so we probably have the bid ready. Yeah. So. Okay. So do we, with these two documents, Charles, we have everything that we need with the original easement, and the, is it now two attachments? One of the five-year horizon, and the other with the town where they see an easement? It would be the same easement. It would be all included in the same one. The easement that you're going to sign with that paperwork means that that easement is five years. Okay. So I don't, the thing that we originally looked at, it's not something that we also, right. I think, Charles, we'll just update this. Yeah. That language would be incorporated into the original easement agreement that you saw. Okay. Okay. Yeah, not so much as an attachment, but just that's what we agreed on. Right. I need to save these, but just have to pipe your end. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And I understand, I mean, you people are community members, something happened and there was a delay. Yeah. I understand that if we had to put another year on it to finish the project, that wouldn't be, it wouldn't be a problem with you so long as there's not an easement in the files so that like you say, if you wanted to close, you know, sell your property or whatever, that easement didn't follow with your property that had an end. Right. Those are my concerns. Yeah. I mean, it was never any concern of ours that you were against the project or anything. No. Yeah. Totally understand. Very much a big one. Right. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So you don't see any problem with them saying that the project will officially start at this time this calendar year and then we'll terminate the later than five years, then the easement will terminate five years after that. The only thing that would hold up the project starting this year because we're getting started late in the season would be if the bids came in all wacky, you know, all high, higher than what our grant is, higher than anything, because we're bidding at this time of year and contractors can't bid on it when they're giving you, you know, as long as they've got work. So that might be the whole thing. Yes. That might be the only thing that might hold it up for like six months or something. So how do we, how do we thread that needle? So I guess we can talk, if this is agreeable, we'll talk to Charlie in the morning to have that, this language incorporated into that original. Pat can do that. Pat can incorporate that language into the easement and have it ready tomorrow. Yes, I could. Yes, I could. I think we should take those ones so we can look at them. We're close to that, taking up too much more of your meeting time. And then we'll work on it today. So if we're not 100% sure this thing's going to go this calendar year, this official start date, how do we sort of set some kind of verbiage within the easement that makes it clear that the start date can't suddenly happen in 2030? Yep. But we can just, can we just state that in the easement? Well, I think your end date, we'll go, we'll go, the easement won't end five years from whatever date that you plan on signing it. Right. Five, five years. And if we have a problem with that, then I'll come back to you folks and say we can give us another. I would think that we could assume. That's going to be done. Yeah. Well, that's what we can also assume that the five year easement would start the day that the easement is, the easement deed is recorded here in the town records, I think. We should be the same date of signing. Okay. Yeah. So if you sign it and it gets reported soon, then I'd say it's a five year limit from the date you signed. So we're out of it in 2023. Yeah. Like I said, the only thing that would hold it up would be that Bidzen. Everyone's too busy in the summer and can't use things. Right. And he's going to put those. As soon as we do this time, Doug Henson is going to do the site visit and get this ball rolling within the next week or so. I would say because we need to contact him back tomorrow as to what do you have? What your decision was today. Yeah. Yes. Super. So I'm going to just show that I just have a really quick thing. Is there anything more about this that you want to talk about? Nope. I think we're good. Okay. Pat's just going to write it up then. Put an end date on it. Put an end date. Yes. Put the five year language in it. Yeah. They agreed to that. And I don't know if I could throw this one into you but you look at me like that. I know I should. On this one here, it says the town will release the lien with the completion of the project. If you would feel more comfortable with an end date inserted into that, we could put something in there like December 31st, 2019. The town is promising to release the lien at the completion of the project, which can be. We said five years. Well, I thought this letter here was from the town. The town. Is this still an offer that's documented? Yeah. That's the latest one then. The town would release the lien in the records. So officially, how is that determined? How that date, does the agency of transportation say this thing is officially done as of today or how does that work? Okay. I'm not able to decide when it's done. You are. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I tell V-transits done. When we pay to make the last payment the contractor and warranty period starts. We should put five years in the language what we talked about tonight. Okay. If the project is done and we get notified from the state that the project is done then the town will release it beforehand. Yeah. The maximum date would be five years. Okay. I believe this says here that the town would release it to date. That project is declared complete. Yeah. If you're okay with that. That's good too. All right. Okay. Becky had a question. Quick thing. So, you know, we've lived there since 1995 and we've always had dogs and at some point the no dogs allowed signs went up around here. And, you know, it feels to me like, I mean, I understand what the concern is. You know, the concern about unsafe or unsupervised dogs interacting with the school kids, dog mess, all that stuff. Like I get it about irresponsible dog ownership and what a challenge that can be to the public. At the same time, I think almost everybody in the houses that border this property have dogs and we don't have a lot of other options about where to go or how to exercise our dogs and ourselves. And in my experience of living there all these years with dogs, there's no enforcement of the no dogs allowed provision. And I'm not asking for enforcement. What I want to suggest is, and I don't know if there will be some kind of process in this, is maybe make the signage more specific to what the actual need is, you know, like around the issues of public safety. Like, you know, keep your dog within your control or keep your dog on your leash or something like that. Also, you know, providing the pet cleanup materials that we see all over the place. The little pull-down bags. There's, I think, at least three garbage cans right now in here in the tennis court where people had a bag. I mean, we always go out with bags because this, we don't want to go walking around a dog either. But if somebody had forgotten a bag, I think that would help with the cleanliness issue. So... That was basically the problem. Cleanliness. Yeah. Yeah. Great. So... To point to, I think, there are a lot of dogs in there. The enforcement is, lacks a day's goal at best. So perhaps more, I better define to your point what was the use and how do we make this work for both. Maybe you're here in the village. Maybe you can come up with some ideas where I know there's an awful lot going on and wait till that. I don't read too much about it. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. They supposed to have opened their private property box, I guess, in the bobbin mill. Yes. And then they posted on the front porch form that they were distressed because of being on a dog waste. And I guess a woman had gone and cleaned up and collected something like 20 pounds of dog waste or something. And so the owners stated that if the dog waste cleanup wasn't happening more regularly, then we're going to close the property to dogs. And then people started vandalizing their property with dog waste, like putting bags on their porch, throwing it up in their trees, and then with mailboxes. Yeah, it's just a bad thing. So we don't certainly need that in this town. It is. Yeah. So maybe, I think, but there is a need. Let's get the dogs and people want to do that beautiful trails out here to walk your animals. And if it's done responsibly. And safely, right? Exactly. We would need some ideas on that and how to do that and how to enforce it and what type of things you would need, those little boxes, you know, with the bags or something. I mean, there's even, I think, in some places, there's even these really low-tech solutions of a PVC tube, have you ever seen them? They're open at the top and at the bottom. And people can put recycled bags in the top and then they feed out the bottom. Oh, yeah. And people can use those for collecting dog waste. That would be, I think, pretty low cost to the town and might... You might want to check with the Recreation Committee. That might be something that they might... Dwayne. They might have some insight on there. I know they're talking about signs for the trails and stuff. So maybe that might be something to think about. Yes. Okay. So would it be their authority then to remove the existing signs and replace them? No, it would be ours. But I mean, just to get some feedback from them, maybe what they might be thinking all matter. Because on that committee, there are a number of outdoorsy people. People that do recreation things, who put some policy together. Okay. Great. And are we going to have any Finance Committee meetings in 2018? Let's say yes. Are you on the committee too, John? Yes. Okay. I was putting Jason in a hot seat. He was the only one. So I will talk about, I'll push them to have something going on that. So I know you had some ideas. I'm not sure who the other person was. Bob Holden. You guys should get together and get something. Yeah. All right. Thank you guys for coming in. Somebody will be, one of you will be in touch about the Finance Committee meeting. Super. Thank you. Thanks for your time. I want Tom to email me that information. Yeah. Revised. That would be great. It's pretty busy week, but it's good. I'll let you know on Friday. Appreciate it. Nice meeting you. Thanks. Thank you. All right. So we are a little bit behind. Charlotte, do you mind if we just look right in at seven so we can stay on that schedule? I think you'll be a little bit quicker than you may. If you want to stop. Thank you. How are things going? Very good. Thanks. Thank you so much for those for the more festive Mexican dinner thing they had going on the other night. They were very good. Thanks for coming in Craig. We wanted to, there were a number of delinquent taxes if you have an attack sale. And it's, I guess it was unusual. It was kind of quick we thought this year. So I'm sure you all have read at some point the collection policy which is in the town report and I send out to every delinquent tax collector. And every year I get a little more offended personally when I do not get a reply to any notification regarding the delinquent tax. So you're correct it maybe has come quicker than it has in the past because there are repeat offenders on this list. And I don't know if they feel like because I give them a long leash without any kind of reply that they can get away with it. But this year I said I'm not going to play that game. Every person on that list has been notified November, December, January with a final notice to say if nothing comes back to me by the end of January it's going to go further. Then I gave them the whole month of March as leeway to respond and when that didn't happen I finally engaged David Sunshine to send his letters. Typically when you get a letter from a lawyer as opposed to the delinquent collector you pay attention, one person pay attention. And it was a repeat offender. And that just sort of confirms the fact that they don't care I hate to say it but they just don't care and as a right position as delinquent collector I'm not going to put up with that. If they can't even respond, literally respond in any way, they could respond however they want. You don't respond. It's ridiculous that some of the amounts are really small. They're totally ridiculous. Glassworks is they're going out of business or whatever is going on. So that one we can all understand. Muska I think we probably all know the circumstances. And beyond that, a couple hundred bucks one guy is 26 bucks. It's just like come on. And they all know the moment they don't respond or that the attorney responds the price goes up. So I have no other way to make the message clear. Absolutely and if these people get in touch with you totally. So whoever is not on the list if you want me to go through the names they reach out right away and say, what can I do? How can we set this? Roughly how many are on that list there? Of the people that you've got agreements with? It's about half. I think that answers my question that I had as far as he's doing it. Like I said, you're frustrated. No one's going to get back to you. What are you left to? I could send letters till the end of time and they will disregard every letter I send without even a bug off or whatever. I get nothing. I totally agree on all these. But I think we wanted to ask that question because it came up quicker than we've seen. But I think you're justified in your thinking with it. Because if people can't get back to you you can walk that horse right over to the water, is that what they say? But you can only do so much. The other part is I feel bad that they do get back to me because I know they're struggling to do what they're doing but they're doing it and they stick right with it and I don't have to get in their face for any reason. They're doing what they've got to do. So that makes me feel doubly bad for the people that I think I hope have the means to pay their taxes but they're just disregarding it. Because everyone really wants to pay their bills. And so you see that. Any questions for Craig? But I wouldn't welcome any suggestions. I agree. I just wanted to show we were... You mentioned that the people who are going to tax sale on their property have a past history. What happened before? Well, yeah, because again, like Tom sort of noted, I waited until the end but then at the end they eventually paid. So one person in particular and I won't name names got to the point where they got the attorney's letter which ups the value and clearly says send the check for this amount. They tried to send me the balance that I had sent to them trying to side sweep the whole thing and I said no, that's not going to happen. So they eventually paid, it was probably October last year and then sure enough November comes along they're on the list again. Here we go again. So in a sense maybe their bad habit is forcing the issue on somebody who just didn't respond to a frequent flyer just the first time on the list but still. And this is an obvious question does it do any good to send anything in a signature required way? Has that been tried? I've only done that I get a return piece of mail so if it doesn't come back to me I don't go signature required. The attorneys don't on the initial notice they don't send it out with a return then on the formal notice for tax sale they send certified returners. So we have not gotten that far yet but probably tomorrow I'm going to say that's it because one person did reply they paid it in full that's great for the rest I don't know what to do with it. Any ideas on BUSCA what we should do there? Well I was going to ask you because at one point Cheryl asked me what's going on I didn't know if you guys were planning anything I mean we could I guess we could I know we've had a property up there before we've done that the old Darrell Mays property the taxes were never Just forgive it but how much condemned that property? It is condemned. So that doesn't remove it from taxes. I mean there's people still going in and out there's still people going in and out stripping crap. I wish I don't know what BUSCA is not going to do she's in a nursing home or something I mean you may have passed the law who I've spoke to many a times who initially expressed an interest in buying it just to protect that. I think he won't accept it is that Macintosh? No. I can't think of which one it's made. It's in my files. We've talked a lot he is not financially in a position to do it he's waiting for a court settlement if he gets a settlement in a day because it's a big long work cop case he can't do it until that happens. If he could come in and just buy the tax sale that would be the thing. And I keep saying something but maybe he will now that it's going that far one more time. Because the last time it went for sale nobody could show it just came and went and here we are two years later. It's very condemned property. Well it's condemned as is. So somebody would have to do a lot of mitigation. I would say that that person would talk with Dick Ballantanetti is the one who condemned it. I think it was condemned after the flood. There was no cleaning or whatever but it still looks pretty structurally sound. That's what I say too windows are broken but the roof side nothing I wanted to do. I think if someone it does because it's still square when you look at the thing and it's too bad almost because it's an old it's a beautiful or was it one point? Classic building. So I don't know. Maybe I'm hardened another year into this process that I just don't want to go to the very end have the same thing happen which would be maybe they pay me and if they don't but if they pay then it just becomes another ongoing. I think you have been reasoning and again these people have the opportunity to get back when you set up payments lands like the other eight have done then I have really no sympathy for them. That's it. I've come to realize people just become totally in denial. They avoid avoid but usually the attorney gets their attention so I'm really surprised that nobody other than the one person got the attention. That's why I was thinking of the required signature just to get them to interact with it for a moment. True. Maybe that's your property. I can't understand someone not. So good job on this one. Yeah. Thanks. I'm going to take dessert. I'll take one family. Alright. Have a good night. Alright. We're still pushing people around and I know Deb she's running outside for a moment so you have a moment. So push up. I sent Cheryl some pictures of the lake that's growing in my front yard that's destroying the fence in the front yard. I had contacted Chris Griffin to come in because the whole land is just it's wet and you know I'm really making an effort to keep the school house in good shape I feel like it's a landmark for the town and so I'm coming to ask if there can be any plan for the road crew to possibly do some ditching if you can see did you have the picture show? I have more in my iPad but I mean it's pretty explanatory you can see that it's coming from the road and I started thinking really doesn't make any sense for me to plan on my own to try to do some kind of mitigation without getting the town involved and the water's getting so deep there it's up above the ankles of my boots I don't know if I sent that picture or not but I tried to take pictures of me standing in the water. It's destroyed the fence that's there. Fortunately the shrubbery that I planted is likes water but not water containing lots of salt and all that kind of stuff so everything's kind of iffy and I just would like to work with the town to see what we can do before I start undertaking any big projects so that's why I'm here tonight. Would you be able to make an appointment with Martin to look at that? I have talked to Martin and I did call the town and asked Martin to come up and look which he did and he said he's willing to work with me with Chris or whomever but he didn't know about this year when was the last time you talked to Martin about this? Last week. Why don't you guys walk as soon as possible for both of you and then let's talk about with Martin and find out what's possible what needs to be done where our responsibilities lie and where we might be able to do something or at least put a plan together. I understand this is last minute it would be great if we could do it this year but I'm even willing to work with the town it just didn't make any sense for me to move forward with the stuff in the road we should coordinate the whole thing so that's the reason I'm here. Has this problem been around for several years from the start? I would say two years it started and then last year is really when every time I came out after a rain that's when I really really saw it and then this was just I mean all winter long every time we had so many thaws you know I'm not an engineer and I'm even I don't know they grade the road all the time they do such a wonderful job with the road that whatever they do is necessary for the good of the road and so I'm not trying to blame anybody I think it's been probably before the ditch gets filled maybe there's not much of a ditch there it's gotten less and less and it's always been down on the other across the road a little skating on exactly on that corner of House field skating where in Cobra they are just so we can work together I mean the apple trees have been somewhat compromised and I'm hoping I got Eric Potter in last year and we did some work and I'm hoping to save those I mean eventually trees die but I'm hoping not on my watch so that's all and if you can get back to me you want to call 2-2-3-2-2-8-8 2-2-8-8? yep so that's really the best way if you can do that within next week or so I'm a super early morning off and on but I'm a real early morning person if anybody else is an early morning person I'm also I don't know I'm around four so is that early enough? okay so there you go so that's what I say I'm happy to meet at 7 o'clock in the morning or 7.30 that works beautifully for me and maybe Ray can do that on the way to work yeah something like that you know 6.30 that's cool you can have Martin's account for them it's not better for acting Martin so it's not out it's up and out so we can do it we can do it early and I don't think there are a few minutes to look at this and come up with solutions I want to be in contact with Martin now excellent great thanks so much and thank you all for everything thank you for listening as well keep listening alright thank you Deb so now why don't we go ahead and bring Cheryl and Brown forward so I would move we go into executive session to discuss employee compensation raise seconds any further discussion coming out of the executive session we will take action on that so we will we want to make a motion now I would like to make a motion that we have 2375 per hour starting in the first take area any further discussion on favor go right can you come forward to come out of the executive session John and Calvin thank you Cheryl alright so now we can get back on to the executive or back to town we've actually got a lot of stuff reminder this Wednesday 9am the town office of the weekends of the year bridge number 2 project this Wednesday and Monday 514 6 o'clock to the town hall for the ICS 402 training and I think that would be fine even with problems with the downstairs because everything is all closed off Monday 514 at 6 o'clock but I have to register before you're all ready that's a way to do it I know I said this would be good but some problems would you need a password reset or something do you want us to do it if you can since I have an account there both of those meetings here Monday 514 is at the town hall upstairs the one this Wednesday is here I need to get the lack along the next week if you're in there but we don't know about that it's all closed off the downstairs is all closed off for that training for you all the town hall did any of you stop so you know what we've got for you I've got a couple problems with the town hall we've got exterior walls and we've got the mold on the inside the wall right there we asked Joe Gabri to go over and see about fixing the sill see if you know what the sill was needed while he was there he found that wall he expects that repair would be for 1,500 plus or minus 1,500 unless when he tears into it he finds bigger problems and the new window that we need is 1,800 dollars and that's from Alamo Burk the cause of the problem is because there's no diverter on the roof and all of the water was diverged in there but that window and it runned the wall but it fell on the window very good yep it's just a metal diverter for ice or anything it's just a metal diverter so that it deflects it away from the window I'd say it used to be one on top of the elevator I thought that there was one there's better rockets there's better rockets too but no better so should we was there a diver that was taken down because of the department? I think it came down last time we had painted and there was never one put up because he had to do a little bit of roof repair while I was painting that was Steve the Badger back in 2009 so we need to get the diver to back up so that Joe does the work he was going to include it in what he was going to do we were asked to get a price because we're probably my idea was before all of us started that we had the diver who was going to paint put the mold on because he's going to have a lift do you have a price for him on that? for the painting or the diver? we'll get the price on the diver for Joe for Joe with the painter is Joe going to put the diver on or is the painter going to put the diver on? I was thinking that the painter should put the diver on or we'll work it out with Joe so if Joe is in there the painter goes in there but we've got big problems with mold in that building when Katrina was cleaning she found that under the cupboards is all mold and behind the cupboards is all mold I had taken out dishes one thing in the corner by the fridge and under the dishes where they sat with circles of mold when I tried to clean it you could tell it wasn't just the surface so I touched the cake plate and put my hand right through it so I tore it out just that corner she sent me some pictures of it and it's dad a mold infestation I wonder if we shouldn't have the thing next Monday there so I've been working in there for a couple of weeks and have been fine the only time I was the last three days cleaning up to the mold I was in the basement and those three days I had headaches and I haven't since I stopped working there but upstairs it was fine but that's just fine coming in to do an air quality test tomorrow we should have those results back in like four days I'll go back a little bit so I called the insurance company and I told them what was going on she told me that because the mold has been there and I'm detected for a while but they probably wouldn't cover it because it was the rains that flooded the kitchen before and that's why we had to make the repairs on the siding the drainage but I asked her to check it out and today I got an acknowledgement that they received the claim and that I would be working with the person that I would be working with so we'll see if the insurance covers it or not but when I spoke with her I said ok what should I do next so if the insurance covers it so we called she said call PuroClean we did the cleaning all of our town buildings before that's why they do a good job she said and PuroClean suggested that we hire to have an air quality test done so that's what's being done on Tuesday when PuroClean gets that report from the air quality people they won't know what's happening what we've got to do to mediate that mold whether they can spray it probably not but or whether all the covers have got to be pulled out or what so we don't really know what's going on what we do know is the painting was going to start next week painting do you still want that to go forward? I think we need to get Joe's work complete first we need that construction stuff done and then I'd like to get an idea of just what is happening inside the building and what the cost may be if it's going to be insurance we're not so concerned or if all of a sudden we're going to be set with a bill of who we're going to be with trying to mediate mold we may have to spend that money that we've got on the outside on the inside so because we can't we're not going to be we're not going to be able to get mold I think that's the highest priority we're going to be getting the only question I have on that approach is would the painting cost more more damage occurred to the outside isn't painted now or can it be put out? well I'm not saying I don't want to do it this year I just want to try to put it off a couple of weeks so we can get an idea of the mold yeah the painter was going to start on the opposite side and he did work that out with Joe so that Joe would if you approve when he fix it Joe was going to get down there like tomorrow and fix that and then the painter was going to start on the opposite side and work his way around to the front so Joe would be done but with this mold in there I didn't know what the tone if it's going to cost us a lot then do you still want to do the painting more it really needs to be done yeah it does but um I think we need to I think we need to step back and get the this address the first I think hold up on the paper you might have to rebate the job because the painter's not going to wait can we ask if the schedule is a little flexible I've been thought controlling this you know I mean possibly at the end of the season if he gets his other stuff done but I can ask yeah I mean he's been good I mean like the guys he's going to paint the whole thing you know it's just been good to work with I don't want to not I'm not trying to screw the guy I'm just concerned with this we're just being we're just I think it's something like we should mind the bullet if go forward just go forward because we really don't have the option to not paint it will probably end up costing us more if we delay it so the painting right now is at 10,000 well 5,000 yeah you have you have a contract in there with hand to sign and there's a warrant as per the contract for 25,000 dollars and then the next the second half would be due in the beginning of next next year we've been painting it all this year right think about this I mean the painting is going to be done if this whole thing is a 25,000 dollar fighting right not doing the paintings probably not doing the painting still at least make it look good don't be near the place from what I can see from what I can see to me it looks like it's only the cabinets but they're going to have to pull a set out to see if it's the wall well I don't know if we're eating out of business maybe it's a maybe it's 100,000 dollars and it's going to look really bad and all that's going to be we're going to have to shut it down until we come up with 100,000 dollars right yeah I mean that's the it will make any sense to me but I mean I don't how long do you think it might be before we come up with some answers on it at least a couple of weeks we would get the first guys tests at four to five days so that's definitely by next Monday and we have to wait for I'm more I don't care about the damage the extent of the damage I'm more concerned with the insurance they're going to pay for it or not if they tell me tomorrow they're going to take care of it it's not the question for me that's not a concern I had some I had a lot of food in the channel but she did get which maybe the day they weren't giving her so I think that's a good sign you know what it's five grand this year Jason's the point we're probably better off in terms of the mole I don't know what they can figure out exactly when it started but certainly we're reporting it as soon as we can so I chase the top it doesn't start I mean it could have been there since I read the process it could have been the result of the recent heavy rain and that's my story I think that's definitely one of the problems back then you'll be able to get it I'll do the best I can so that contracts in there we don't need to make that decision this second but 20 minutes you'll be able to get back to it so I'll give you a little bit of Katrina actually and I emailed Katrina called the state about the tree of the word access and I emailed Katrina oh yes official game Fish and Wildlife who owns that property and who maintains that property and I emailed Dick Hosking let him know about the tree and that we were getting calls about it calls about everything and I guess Tom's got some calls about it somebody who mentioned it yesterday or Saturday or whatever in here so we've let them know there's a broken tree in there it's been down a month I'm surprised no one hasn't picked that up but yeah let's hear anything Don works with you get every party at 9 o'clock decided to call on the tree there's a big tree I'm 100 B in that is it on a wire? no is it on a wire? no no I don't know so we should bring this up too we'll go ahead 100 B I can't believe it what's the big one where's that 100 B if you're hitting more time on the back side of the common road on the back side of the common road no no we're on the back side of the common road right across the street from there what happened by Bruce's no I'm just excited I'm nervous I don't know I'm surprised the wire is supporting it it's small we could have flickering power or something another thing Larry Rubbles is coming to look at the cracks and the chips and they turn off the cycle I haven't seen them coming yet but I've saved the pieces I think that little chunk should be cut out there's two cracks I let him know that this is in the same spot where he repaired the cracks last time and then we have another warranty thing you know it's right in that same area so there must be a problem with something I don't know but he's going to come up with that I'm going to try to get into the fixer on his nickel coin or whatever the last thing I have is Katrina's review before I get to that I've also made copies for each one of you of what I think will be a good review process for the road department it's a winter and summer employee review overview well that's the road work and this is the key items for safety just a review of what happens in the spring and what happens in the summer I want to wrap this up no here you go I'm just an overview for them of what happens in the spring and the summer when you convert over from winter more importantly when you convert over from summer to winter the additional dangers that they have when there are outbound roads and things like that a safety reminder that I think will be very beneficial for the town for the employees things I've got a call from Liz Hare still in the morning the dump trucks were dumping sand around to pick up something in the sand pad not our trucks but higher trucks it is different so I got those for Cheryl called me and I called Griffin they were great people to work with but they looked at their slips and they couldn't find anything where they left a pit at 7 o'clock that morning the pit is open till 7 they did because I noticed when I came through at 6.30 that morning and I got the trucks going back that they had already dumped two loads I was going to say so what they did is they loaded up the 94 to pick them home also in there at that time was our excavator moving stuff into the sand because they have to level it out or whatever so this would have probably reminded them that the sand pit was open at 7 o'clock some of the things like that I guess it's a good idea and it was a good idea no it wasn't I was able to speak with Martin and he indicated it was those guys and I actually saw Sean Chong he was there when Griffin called back I don't think it was our people but I was going to argue with Martin he got a message in a way that no one was to be there before 7 o'clock so I mean you can do what you want but I think it's a good I haven't looked at it I think we should all take a look at this there's additional things that you want on there right there may be things that you want things that you may not see any value to but it's really we owe it to our employees to do this so that they know where they sit so that they can want raises or things like that similar to that Jason asked if there was a formal here's this or you can model it to however if you want other questions on there so why don't you put this on the agenda for the next time as well for us to discuss if everyone on the board can take a look at this super questions then how will we implement this this is something that just think about it in that way how that would how we do it is Ray and I or do the road crew or is it Ray and Martin so we'll have to look at that logistics on how that may or may not work but I think that's a great idea to get something like this in place I know some years ago we talked about it but you may also want to think in your scenarios add another one and have employees I know I did the training review I gave her the form and had her fill it out when you read something like this maybe it sticks in your head more than someone reading it to you I don't like this that's a good idea it's surprising about how you come out about the same as you're in 30 usually you'll come out as a employee you'll be less than what she did but we can get to that in just a moment the training review I just want to go around and see if anyone else has any reports of you done I showed before Ray did you have anything I didn't Kelly anything from you John yeah a few things the last third that I attended the Vermont Labor Day Conference two sessions that were of interest managing urban community forest that I attended and also planning for forest of wildlife they discussed acting 71 I don't know if anybody's heard of that do you share that one what are we going to look for it requires municipalities and regions that are updating and municipal and regional plans identify areas that are important as forest blocks and habitat connectors and plan for development in those areas to minimize forest fragmentation so I spoke with Karen about that and she said that she was looking to it so that came out of BLC right back at you Karen so that was last week then next or this week Wednesday or Thursday is the Clean Water Advisory Committee from the Vermont Regional Planning Commission it's the first our first meeting I believe that everybody got an email about that so I let Pam know that I of course would do that and then the following week is for my Clean Water Network meeting at the Legislative Act we'll have a discussion we'll have a discussion back at the Echo Center and so we'll do that good Tom I just had a good question for Ray and you did you have a chance to find any black and white photos of the town hall from the historic site of the secret see what we're going to do on the lawns now that's all I think we'll do that too that's just in case you do get a paint gun is it all white or not yeah it was great it was green how green it was green trim white white and green I like the cover the cover I think it was all black in the report chat the water story right now it's all white it used to be all trim but what was it I'm not making that we have pictures around yeah any ostriches if you are you going to meet again before you decide did you decide to go through the painting we'll get signatures okay so here's some scotches and I think the section was what Jason was talking about so this is for the paint and for the trim if you want to make a note on the contract so the reason I was asking for the old photo is I'm wondering if we want the trim to be white also or not I don't know if that's traditional that was what he recommended when I showed him the photos he just did the Granibald town hall exactly that way I'm just waiting to see what was traditional for the Moorten town hall I don't know so you want to wait until I find one and I'll wait if possible well you should be able to we can pick the main right and then see what if there is a trim color trim color or not and then we can debate that amongst ourselves I like it I think that's the way most of them used to be but that's what I think too is to keep your data to support it we're not as genuine a way if you look back on old photos alright so let me the couple things I had first I wanted to compliment the fire department and the Murna group who put on the TACO dinner bar fundraiser over here at the school and the silent auction really did understanding bulk of the work well done I know I saw John there food was great there were lots of nice things to you know the silent auction about that nice spalted maple bowl there I got and I think you guys used to be raised over 3,000 just under 3,000 we served about 70 people so that was fantastic that was good well done and thank you to all those members of the town who supported him the other thing is if we could put out on front page forum or a statement all of us all of us thank you thank you to Mike Timosis and especially everyone who participated in green update I've already got that very good again it was a good I mean I saw a lot of people out a lot of green bags going down the room and the places look good did the town pick up on bags today actually I saw Mike Timosis had a truck loader he came and he said there was only like a load of tires he couldn't pick up and that was that I think Sasha was talking to Sasha wasn't that like a matter of all the days he just needed a road crew to pick up a couple mattresses there's some couches and mattresses and I know I saw Martin out actually on Saturday we had a little bit of damage with the wind but I don't think there was anything actually Kelly didn't be able to swarm that up even there were a few trees down but I think most of them were going to lead by townspeople or it was one on my road and they were like fighting over me I heard that people love to get into that so good stuff there I did get a call this evening from Mark Austin and I guess the road crew down there at some point I believe today picking up Jersey barriers that were left behind from the bridge that was left so my understanding in the town he perfectly welcomed the town was taking out but I think the town thought or Martin and those guys thought they had been left to him Mark says they were left to him from the contractor but it was more of a communication issue the way they were picked up Mark went home today and they were three of them were loading on the trailer and he was surprised about that so we felt that he was and I say it was hurt that they hadn't passed it so I just wanted to touch base with Mark and just to make sure that we were doing those things and going up people's property to get things whether it's or not we just need to make sure that we communicate with the property on our first of an acting so we were out of the round later and he didn't tell them whether they were or not I think he got his understanding whether they were on his property that's all that matters and they had been left to him but he tried to give them to a couple of people and they could take them so he was perfectly fine with the town taking them it was just the process in which they were required so I'll just touch base with Martin to when we're dealing with the hot people and their property we need to be careful just how we do that I think so I think that was all I had and so we can move on to Sasha's how Sasha's Katrina's review sorry I'm looking at these cupcakes here excuse me so we should probably turn off the cameras for that and go to the second session for personnel before we make a motion on that can I just get this before I forget that we have permission or permission to let John make the repairs on the town hall and get them in the window it's okay to go for that I'll make that just a second for the discussion all in favour of what I thank you and you know what I'm going to do shall we just go ahead I'm going to turn it off for the paint shall we just go ahead and do the paint so we'll sign that we don't need a motion on that because we already have it we'll go ahead and sign that you know it's chill we'll go on to the executive session for employee review second all in favour of what I all right thank you that's all right I want to make a motion to increase the creative brackets paint to 16 30 per hour effect in 31 1531 sorry 1531 effect build the date of one year I'll sign that thank you any further discussion all in favour of what I all right thank you everyone thank you for the you know what I'm going to do yeah we had that my leg and what's up yeah I was down on this the calories gone so there's my social media you're all back in Facebook to show you it's only email it's on Facebook and it's own page so it's not tied to anything oh you're doing that final motion on the meeting minutes from April 16th any further discussion one tiny tiny reflection personnel I know we talked about that yeah celebration is not wrong for a long time too single to mile page sailing version all right so sorry we have just that one coercion all in favour of meeting minutes for the 16th of 2018 can you say hi hi so this is not published I'm the one when I can see it and I didn't put that much information on it because I wasn't sure can you see it yeah of course I'm not sure can you see it now so right now you can make a pinned post so when you come to the pages it's always going to be at the top so it has the what's first it says no contact can be done to this page and then it gives our list of contacts and I also made it so that even if somebody tried this page doesn't accept messages at all and it'll tell them that if they try to message it so it's not going to be a place for anyone to message anybody and then also all those other pretty pictures I found right here and then this is also posted which will always be there the code of conduct which is the thing that I wrote and gave to you guys so like I said I didn't do that much on it WH okay one thing I do want to say though is that I became one of the person that controls the more fast page and that was our number one tool to get people to come every post I had I reached over 230 something people was my top one and that was where and it was, you know, Jeff shared it his wife shared it and that was just the how people knew about the event and that's all I picture this being is you know if there's a special need anything honestly any week post on front porch forum because it's just another tool and a lot of people use it so can we I don't know what's everyone thinking I mean I don't see the only thing I want I don't know how much time it's taken does it take too much time or something else oh no especially because I'm not interacting with anybody anytime someone wants to post something this email right now I can see this from my Facebook page which can be communicated at any time so on my phone it'll pop up if there's something that someone wants to post I have to approve it first so if it's slander if it's inappropriate it won't be there it'll never be seen and it really it does in a just one second if people are posting stuff otherwise as I post front porch forum stuff I copy and paste it and post it here so it's not time to continue yeah I mean everyone's got one of these things I know you had some questions more philosophy or a combination of philosophical time which is this book has been read long it shouldn't be directing or calling any attention to their business at this time it'll let them straight to the app and if everyone is happy with them we can start our Facebook page but to be associated with them right now is not a good thing that said when you do this because it's a pain to maintain more than one thing at the very top the first thing you do is direct them to our town website and front porch forum that is something that would be maintainable regularly and that would send people right there if they're interested yeah well I mean this would be maintain the same amount and that's it any great idea great work thank you and I just don't think it's the right time to do the on switch and I know what you're saying I mean I see the same as you say I don't think the town more town abstaining from Facebook is going to make a difference but that's my personal opinion right when you're there I was I was okay with it so just to be clear too having this, whoever follows this page already has Facebook so it's not like I'm encouraging and asking people I'm not subjecting them to anything they're not already subjecting themselves to the only in our ideas Facebook the only troubles I've had seen in Facebook sometimes is the criticism it may not start off as a criticism but all of a sudden a bench change things turn it gets really ugly really fast well that and that's why I put like every protection on this page there is and I can I can show you how I did it but even if I wasn't approving a post I didn't post that one on their chain and contain and like list of these million foul words that are on there and if it's nothing I can be obviously if someone someone has a bad opinion of the town they're not posted anywhere I mean it's not for us to censor what they're saying but if they're not saying it in a non-projectory way then you can't censor it you know what I would say here's what somebody does it like the way the road's being graded there's too much dust or the road crew does something they don't like the ditching whenever and all of a sudden it's critical of the road crew and it really is ugly I think if someone just writes a post that the road crew sucks and it's this way I'm not going to approve it because that's not what the page is for if somebody writes has anybody seen the grader really it looks like town or town it's graded it's broken again then that's not what I envisioned the page to be for and I was like oh yeah let's make up to somebody and I was like non-projectory and now it's oh yeah I saw that grader there and I was like can you come to your place three days but you get that it's no different the front page the court the court form there you go you know the things do get started a lot I haven't seen any no those are the things you're going to see on that you know I won't say we should do it because everyone's doing it but it seems to be where you communicate through this you know it's just as long as she's not just doing the minimal things that you're doing now you're posting on front page front court form you know please start seeing them and you're spending all your time on Facebook then we'll need to I don't know you can probably check it if you want to but it's not the intention I think it can be used as a good tool just the shared information is what I envisioned I'm just asking that we don't hit the old search for a month or so so it's not the the news being complained about we've been in California for a while I saw Facebook commercial it was on I just saw it a couple of days ago I might have been able to see in there what would be the first decision to the first beginning of June why don't we just wait and why don't we make the decision that it's June 1st we start the Facebook page it gives another three weeks okay I'm going to be on the court and now we have to do something particularly in this week between now and then we can share it down is that an opportunity to train into at least do your spell check for one month the select court as part of the court of conduct would need to approve a social media administrator part of my zone I strongly suggest that you adopt this social media policy proposal that you have so you have something in place guidelines I totally agree with you this would be the point if you write that into here and this would be the point the person on board would sign this alright so why don't we we have another meeting here coming up in a minute so let's you want to say again they're going to read it so that way we can make a decision but the idea would be to go live June 1st but we want to be sure that we agree with this contract to make a decision that's good that's good alright moving back well is that going to have a little point right now I think it is you're right I did look into mailing them and to mail them to the state that made mail to the town or tortures like a couple of them on new business a couple things one thing I asked Cheryl to do when I was looking at the town websites for information on such I came across an annual control just a checklist for our annual control officers a sheet that has Cheryl used a little bit of that and then came up with several questions but anyways it's not an opportunity for us to have a sheet I wanted a double copy so we can hand out a copy but she's gone for a minute and impressed it looks like we can get them for 50 bucks I suggest a triple copy because if it's a complaint against another homeowner or another boss then you could have to hand out one to people probably that would be a triple copy then we have we've never really had a trail paper trail of what's happening or what anyone's been carrying this way it's documented and it's something that we can do we've asked for reports it's not getting done but if there's this this is something we can put this down a little bit harder and it's not so hard to check it off and do it if you guys are willing to spend a few bucks for triple for triple for triple for triple for triple for triple so we can't just shove it it'll be it'll be a three hole punch so we can have it so if you're really going for we shouldn't have any questions on why it's not getting done it's working for the state we're not ready I don't know anything about that anything else here Cheryl this is the cost of our track what was going on they never said how much did they well I guess it's just dramatic increases well I'll tell you if it goes up too drastically we've got a container down there for mire so we'll just do away with with one trash can and we'll go up there so can we increase providing charges for public strikes you know with some funded state mandates who's going to get it when they say you've got to do this you've got to do that you're going to separate this you don't have to take it either we can just I just want to let you know it looks like we had an auditor John Conti so why don't we bring him in to the next he's coming in at 5.21 at 6.45 there's a letter here from the chair of the Dr. Barry Select Board looking to share a health officer is that correct Cheryl so I talked to Dick Ballantinetti who's our health officer he said he wouldn't mind giving him a shot on a trial basis if this would work out the problem so how would that I mean how does that affect us at all it doesn't it would affect Dick and that's it and I like it to keep communications going with Dr. Barry because they have a great ant control officer too and they help us with the road department in the winter and we help them in the road department so yeah so Steve Thassery who allows for kind of just combined health districts yeah are they going to petition to I guess the state here or from the commissioner because that has to happen then we just fill out a form they'll provide a form to the state who would call for Dr. Barry ant control just like we do we send in a form for more time yeah I don't know as long as it's not affecting us as Dick wants to do looks like we have someone this would be William Smith just looking for a job economic development advisor you know that's a thank you for your interest at this point we don't have anything going on but we will be I'm not sure especially going forward so there's a name this is the claim from the mold I'm just going to tell you about the final claim I already mentioned that yeah it's a system it's a road system and I would love to have that in our town when we lost our computer we lost the RSNS system what it does is you have to physically make your tables and create the road department already uses an activity sheet it tells me the employee how many hours they work there what equipment they're using what product they're moving on using on the road and I key that right into the system report and you can tell how much product, how much cost for each road that was so helpful during the flood that was so time-saving during the flood I didn't have to actually look through the reports and everything I just want to report off the computer it was $150 it was $150 when we bought it before you must have that budget I can't but who's gonna run it yellow one was asking for it is this a redundant question no she hasn't even asked I would love to have that it's so time consuming I mean you can come to me and say okay how much time and material and everything have we spent on half a way so is Martin gonna put that in or how how does it how does it work well that would be ideal but I think it would be us putting it into the computer you know from I may have the activity sheets already they've been using them and that's what we have to put in every two weeks we get those reports you've seen them from their time sheets and we physically put in well if we're doing that work what we did it really was a nursing business I know but right now we have to go through all the sheets so I have to physically when they had a grant and stuff I mean I had to physically go to the time sheets and see who worked on Williams Road and what they use for material and all that stuff go out it up, go fit the prices from the addresses and everything and in the tables there's the materials things say this road sand 750 cubic yard or Northeast materials the crushed rock or whatever I put it in and they tell me how many yards they use so I just run that report and I have the grant right there for reimbursement make sure that it's just is this that different from the the same thing well no it's not that much different except you have to keep it online going on an Excel sheet this one you just put in the road number the date whatever and it prints it right off you don't have to keep adding on and having a whole bunch of paperwork in front of you it's all in one system for every 67 roads $150 isn't a lot of money oh I know not probably I totally 100% love that system it is a lot of work but it saved us a lot of money I think it was very interesting to have a chance to look at all that yeah yeah and I think there's a bunch of money in there for that stuff it's all it can be incorporated into your work flows about how does that relate to the roads inventory and stuff that we have to do that's a different system that's an MDMS system and that has all the road conditions and everything this is more hands on what the guys do every single day you know it tells me someone says they haven't ready my road for three months I've gone and run reports things like that it's just maintenance this is your infrastructure it's all in one data thing is it asking us yet for how we've maintained or stopped runoff in different roads no but they will and it will help tremendously for the general permits too to show the state that Martin put in the right size culvert to sell this general permit you know we did put this much and then he grassy did it everything you did you can go back and look how these are the standards we've been using so we can replace it all the time as well. I'm just trying to get all this stuff in place that I think would be really helpful for the next one coming along. I highly recommend that. You've got the budget on it. I think that this is, as far as, aside from signing everything here. Do you want to take a call up and are we doing all the way? Why is not the way is it? Why is not the way? You know there's so many different lights, it's crazy. Okay, so we're going to go to the cleaners. Well, I think that if they start to not check. I would say. Yeah. Okay. Actually, we're going to do it the way. So this, That's John and I. Let's go. That's green trend. And the store across the street has green trend also. Yeah. I know it's probably all the way. No. That's true. The green trend kind of breaks it up a little bit. Yeah. Which, you know, I don't know why it's not. I'm just going to roll a little bit. I'm going to go for orange or white. Okay. It almost looks like a part of it. Yeah. With that trend like that would feel like you're almost in Quebec. Yeah. Seriously. That's what it, when you walk there, you notice that that's what that. Of course. Yeah. I think even the pillars on the river are too tall. Yeah. So you're saying that you want the town hall just one? Mm-hmm. No. Well, the window. The windows. The window. The windows. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. You want the windows? Just the window. The trend itself is green. The sill is green right now. It's green. Yeah. So the way it is is how you want it. The windows themselves will stay there. Yeah. So you want to get a softer green? I think green is right. I think it's just how much you want. You don't want to change that color, but do you try to pitch it out? I think, personally, I just want to think about the windows. But that's the way it is. Would it look great if you had the creeper below and the trine and stuff if you just had a window to sign with it? Mm-hmm. I'm thinking all white. Yeah. I think when we could defer, but in 1985, they pretty much duplicated exactly how it was. And how old was it in 1984? In 1985. No, 1985. Well, they had the 150th. The 100th year of celebration. The 100th year of celebration. I think I can help you with that. Yeah. So that's a good point. Somebody did some research back then. It's still down. The 100th year of celebration. Yeah. There it goes. Well, ask me why I have this. I have all kinds of stuff. I thought it used to be in 1885. Those don't look like it. Well, it was a school turned into a church turned into a town hall. Mm-hmm. What time did you come over? That's the same. That's the celebration 100 years later. So don't say it. That's not what it was. It's that term. It's that term. I thought that you were kidding. It wasn't originally. This is how it is in that picture. With a little bit of a term. No, the whole term. It goes back to windows already. You know, this is an early picture here. And if you look, you can see some of the green and the leaves here. And that's if you look at this. This person is dead. Oh, shit. What is that? Old. Old. That's something I appreciate. Did these have winding tracks? Yeah. They were winding tracks. They were winding tracks. Oh, you know what? We actually have to go close to the points of all this stuff. I have to go back and measure it. Right there? Yeah, almost a layer. So I think that you can see up in the... Yeah. All that has down there. And that's going to be as early a trouble that you're going to find. I wouldn't imagine. It's not all the trends. It's just like the architectural pieces. It's not... Yeah. No, I think you're... It's not the whole windows that you see on this picture. It's just like the top part and the top of the door with the little things right there. All right. The rain changes. Yeah. I don't think that's the same goal. It doesn't. It doesn't. What is that? The top of the... There's no... It almost looks like it. There's no... It doesn't. Or like it was. The whole... It looks like it. What's going on next to it? You don't... That's the town hall. Yeah, look at the tall... That's the town hall. And that was the carriage. That was the carriage. Yeah. It's titled the old school. So that's the town hall next to it. Okay. It was here. So we're going to come up here and see our folks there. Going through as fast as I can. Okay. So we've got all the way up here. And it does look like... And almost this is the... I think it was... I don't understand what you're saying, Jason. I understand it all. All of this earlier. That's what I always thought. How about this? Can you try to reach Denise with them? Let's go go to the side of tomorrow. So I'm going to be really busy. Tell them we're painting the town hall. And ask her. Yeah. Yeah. To further them, whatever they were. I think that's a great idea. And it gives them that... Let's ask her. Just in case they come up. Oh, we don't like that. You mean as far as trim or no trim? Yeah. We want to cure it. Yeah. We want to cure it. Which I think you have the extra weight. Yeah. So the extra weight. So why don't we defer the rest of them? Okay. I think that's a one. Okay. Okay. Extra weight. So you want to call it Denise? Yeah. I'm pretty sure we don't want this proper area. Colored. Because it definitely wasn't. Wow. I guess I'll tell you that that's what Denise wants. And the start of the society wants. I don't think that. You don't want to choose. You don't want to say it's not our thing. Who else? The social society. Who else should make that decision? Okay. So it's like time capsule. And when you're done. Correct. I've got stuff in that time capsule. I remember that when I'm dead and gone. You know what? I'll put it in the head for. I'll put it in the sky. Geez, I'll put it in the head. Time capsule is worth the stuff. You know, you don't want to forget about it. I don't remember what's in there. Denise, I've got something to take a look at. Insurance is the contract of the painting. The stuff that I've been just signing here about. Crowds. What makes it really firm? So the list of fabricated paintings at $20,000 is $34,000. Yeah. It's not going back to reported tax. Reclosable. $25,000 for the whole thing. Because you didn't. For all expenses. For all things. So we're still going to do that. We're still looking for that. Right now, yeah. Does this need anything? No, I think we're just, we require it. That's why I just want to, if it's there in the contract. So another thing we mentioned was, when we're in the executive session, we should have a couple of signs. Yeah, come on. Yeah. I apologize about that. Yeah, we're something nice of it. So it's a professional looking sign, not like a take-up thing. It's a lot of metal. Yeah. I wasn't out front. Yeah, it's actually essential. Please stay in the room. Please stay in the room. Thank you. We're going to leave the signs for the little clock. Yeah, I remember that. All right. And this one can be signed. There is a group cut. It was faxed over to Martin's sign. He was signed in front of me. I checked it out, it's the same problem. Tom, you signed the voting call. What's that here? So it doesn't look forward to people. It's like they're in bridge union. I've got a job, and I, I guess, I have one. Yeah. It's really important to put pressure on them. I think it's not, it's probably wrong concern. I don't think we have to work with them. That's all right. That's all right. Just in case. We tend to warn everything just in case. Yeah, I don't think it corrects the hope. I just saw this picture. Yeah. So I will let you know as soon as I help out the insurance. Okay. Bring it up tonight. Appreciate it. Thank you. And I will adjourn. Thank you.