 You know many K through 12 schools are making changes that are against Jesus's kingdom and there's there's and there's lots of different topics that could be hit with this. So how do you decide what's the what's the limit what how do you decide if we should keep our kids in public school or put them in a private school or a Christian school or home school them ourselves. You want me to go. Okay. Jane and I talked about this question this morning when we were driving into church and our culture is shifting and changing so quickly. Here's this is a blanket answer and then I'll micro it down whatever you choose to do with your kids education number one it is your responsibility. If you are a parent your child's education is your responsibility and you're partnering with God on that and you need to you need to seek God about the options because I don't think it's a blanket statement. You can't say oh public schools is the answer or oh home school is a situation that everybody should do or Christian schools or even charter schools. I think you need to pray through that you need to evaluate all the different options your school district may be different than other school districts and your home school opportunities. Some people aren't wired to homeschool their kids they just are not and they don't enjoy it their kids don't learn anything they're 17 years old and they can't spell their name. That's not that's not helping anybody but whatever you do in our day and age parents need to be incredibly involved no matter what the days of just putting your kids on the bus and sending them to school is over. And it probably should never been that way anyways we just you know trusted things but there we're living in a Babylonian culture and here's the confidence that I had is when you read Daniel chapter one. Daniel and the three Hebrew children Shaq Rack and Benny from Veggie Tales you know they find themselves living in Babylon and they were put into a graduate level Babylonian education system. But they did not defile themselves so is it possible to go through you know the worst of public school type of situations. I believe yes it can be if God's leading you to have your kids in a school type of environment then you're going to have to be very involved with unraveling some of the things that are being taught in schools. But just sticking your kids in a Christian school is not the answer because they're going to go to Christian schools. Jane maybe can speak to that she grew up in a Christian school and she went through Christian schools and never even knew that you had to be saved that you had to be born again. You can homeschool your kids and that can be a great option. But I think parents need to take responsibility for their parenting they need to pray and partner with the Holy Spirit and you need to be incredibly involved in whatever you do now. What do you want to know totally I think that's it that you have to be involved you know back in the day you get the Friday folder and Fridays and kind of rifle through it. And now I think you have to like ask questions and get in their business when they get in high school and all that and just younger to like just make an atmosphere where they know it's safe to come and talk to you and all that kind of stuff and that they're not going to be like are you sure you know what I mean like obviously you're not like coming against the teacher every single time but also you don't want to be like I don't think you got that right Charlie. I think you know I think you heard the teacher like set up a meeting with the teacher they want that you know what I mean that kind of a thing of just being hands on is so important. And asking your kids OK what are you talking about when you hear things helping them process through why we believe what we believe and why it might be different. Here's I will say this though I will say the scales when our kids were in high school they're they're grown now. I would have said oh it's I would say almost in 80% of the time I would recommend that you disciple your kids and put them in schools to be light in a dark place. I would say that as I've seen culture shift and curriculum shift and worldview shift I would say I'm probably 50 50 now as opposed to 80 20 on that and I'm very grateful. I know that in radiant we have lots of educators and lots of godly teachers in the public school systems and I want you to know we pray for you and we are grateful that God has positioned you where you're at. You're a gift to all of us. And we know that it's been an incredible difficult 24 months for you and we're grateful for the for the role that you play in education and we need more of that but at the same token. There are a lot of different options that are available out there and I would just encourage parents really be prayerful about don't just put them on the conveyor belt. Yeah and obviously we could I have probably 10 follow up questions that we're not going to get to or maybe we could but a few. But my my one question I would love to ask is like what would you say to the parent where that they're responding almost like they're afraid to try to have these conversations like oh my I can't have this conversation my five year old like he might learn about gender identity at five but I don't want to talk about that at five years old and so there's like fear starts to like come into play as they're trying to figure out how involved they should be so what would you say to those parents. Well I would tell you that if this is this is me and Jane we've talked about this if my kids were in a school district that was addressing those issues that early on and did not allow for parents to either pull their kids out or to have an alternative option for me because I'm not going to allow my kids to be discipled by Babylon. In a way that I can't to me I mean I remember sex education in fourth grade and you know I had my parents had to sign a slip and the whole thing for that. That's exactly it I don't know our kids are out and all that but I mean John maybe you know like do they now send home consent things like hey this week we're going to be talking about. Yes I have a five year old he's in kindergarten and so he's still learning like sight words like what's in A so hopefully we're not getting there yet but yeah we get stuff every day. And some school districts might give you an option it's like hey you don't have to be in this class but you're not going to know that unless you ask and you're getting involved and invested.