 If you don't stand with your fellow Canadians, then you are a rat! I'm not your buddy, friend. He's not your friend, guy. I'm not your guy, buddy. He's not your buddy, friend. I'm not your friend. Hello! Everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Procrastinator's Podcast, the only show on the internet about friends. I am the best guy ever, and we're joined today by Monkey Jones. Oh, look at Donkey Go! That's funny. We've got Ben Stain here. Yeah, the PCP, the only show produced by friends, for friends, and only for friends. If you're not our friend, get out of here. If you're not on the Patreon, you're literally a worthless friend. Oh, wait, Monkey's calling you out. Monkey's calling you out, listener. That's true. We've also got the DeVoo with us. Hey, everybody, I saw those pictures you posted on Facebook of you guys hanging out. I guess I didn't get the invite, I guess. Oh, no. Oh, shit. DeVoo wasn't supposed to know. And at her glorious return, it's going to be a real frenescence, everybody. Lethal Aurora Mage is back with us. Holy shit, here I am, guys. We're just delighted to have you with us once again. Yeah, I'm happy to return. Beautiful. Let's do the thing that we're doing and let's clarify what the PCP is real quick. It's a YouTube podcast where a bunch of friends from the internet who all are content creators get together and just talk about a bunch of bullshit. Any clarifications? It's also a pyramid scheme, as of very recently. Hashtag PCP Pyramid Scheme, everybody. All right, well, today's topic, everybody, is friends. Worthless friends, specifically. Those worthless fucking pieces of shit. Okay, we'll get into the exact definition. But first, okay, so there's no worthless friends on Urban Dictionary if you can believe that. But let's just see what a friend is and we'll go from there. Nobody knows about friendship better than the people of Urban Dictionary. That's very true. Okay, here we go. Here's the top definition for friends. People who are aware of how retarded you are and still manage to be seen in public with you. People who make you laugh till you pee your pants. People who cry for you once your special items disappear when you don't have enough money to get an ice cream they chip in knows all your internet passwords who would never make you cry just to be mean. I think I have a lot of friends that would fit this perfectly. What a terrible definition. If not making me cry just to be mean, it qualifies you as a friend. Then I think I have an awful lot of friends. That's true. Does anybody actually trust their friends with their internet password? That's like a recipe for disaster. You know what I remember when I think about that? You know that scene at the beginning of Full Metal Jacket where the sergeant guy calls out a private fat body or whatever his name was, Gomer Pyle, and he's like, there's nothing in this world I hate more than an unlocked footlocker. If it wasn't for worthless piece of shit like you, there'd be no thievery in this world. And he's making the larger point there that sometimes it's best not to trust everybody because everybody's better off that way. So I'm totally with you. You shouldn't share all your personal details, even with your closest friends because people don't want to know that shit and it causes temptation. You can fuck you over in the long term. Well, the problem is they do want to know it so that they can fuck me over by posting I'm gay lol on Facebook. So that's why you don't want to give them the password. Was that any different from a usual Facebook post for monkey? Like, I don't even... It's been posted so many times they wouldn't know if I got hacked or not. You guys use Facebook? You're such normies. My Facebook actually got hacked this morning and my college friends were messaging me being like, dude, thanks for notifying me about that 90% off sale of sunglasses but please keep that to your... and how ironic is it that it's sunglasses knowing that it's me? Fucking perfect. But in any case, so okay, we're talking about worthless friends. Nate, don't pretend you're not taking a little handout under the table from some unscrupulous foreign bootleg sunglasses corporation. They supply you and that's how you get your fix. They keep me in the green with these sunglasses. Keep me out of the red. Okay, so let's... I think we all probably got a different idea of what a worthless friend really is. I'm sure it'll be around the same general theme but so who's had some experience with a friend who turned out to just be of no value to you or anyone else on this earth? Oh buddy, I've got a wacky cavalcade of lovable characters to introduce you all to today. I have two. Two. Well, I think since Maige is a lady and she's also back after a long summer, I think we should let her go first. No. Agreed. Don't. Okay, let's get somebody else to give one. We've all heard the tale of Momke's great friend in high school who fucked his girlfriend and also slashed his sister. So that's a pretty worthless friend. Somebody who betrays your trust like that. Well, hang on, there is a right way to fuck your friend's girlfriend and to fuck your friend's sister. I'm just saying, you know, context matters in these situations. Sure, yeah, context the fucking his own sister. Yeah, of course. Great story. I think I've read that anime before. But the thing is though with me I think my greatest weakness is that I might be too forgiving because despite how worthless and terrible these friends are and all the bad things they've done to me like they don't even fucking say sorry but I'm just like, yeah, well, I guess live and let live, you know. I think the difference between boys and girls is that girls like really hold grudges long term and the guys are just like, ah, fuck it, let's go drink a beer. Hold on, so your biggest flaw is that you're too forgiving. I think I read about that on like page 17 of Humblebrag Compendium 2018. Oh, that's not a brag. Is being forgiving something to brag about, DeVoo? Jesus fucking did it. It's a sign of weakness. It's like quite literally messianic. In today's feminized society, I suppose it is a virtue, I suppose it is. I think being too forgiving is a sign of weakness. I think it's a humble deficit, not a humble brag because it only leads to more pain. Like, oh, I guess I'll let you walk all over me and treat me like shit all the time. But the thing is I don't have any other fucking friends so what am I supposed to do about it? I have no choice but to forgive them for all these terrible things they've done. But that's just the one example. I'll get into one so you guys haven't heard before later on. OK. Mage, can you give us one of your two? OK. But I'm leaving the last one for the last because this was super long. OK. OK, so like, there was this guy. We go way back. I think I met him when I was eight at first. And like, we have quite a history but like to summarize it, like at first he was like absolutely terrible disgusting. But to summarize it, he raped me. He was the brother of my best friend so he had to be there I guess whenever we went to hang out. Was he an older guy? Yeah, by one year. So he was, yeah. So we was around. So at first like we really disliked him but then like started to really get along with him that at one point he became the best friend rather than my best friend. That'll come up later in the second story by the way. Or should do if I don't forget. Four shadowing. Yeah, so and then we were like really, really good friends and stuff and he went to study in America for a year. Not an exchange program but like he won the privilege of studying in America for a year and was really cool. And we kept in touch and he actually sent me a manga like the death note, first volume manga for Christmas as well because he knew I was really into death note at that time. So it was wonderful. We were good friends. But then he returned and when he returned he kind of got set back a year in school because in America they were learning a different curriculum than we were learning. Sure, sure. So he ended up in my class and I was like, we can sit together during the classes we are gonna have together and like we can hang out and stuff it'll be like great. But then he never did and then he kind of started shunning me. And it's just like he got like too cool for me or something. Because I think the thing is he was always sort of... He had that American. He was an American. No, my theory is because he was always sort of like the nerd in his previous class he didn't really have much friends but then he came back and he started getting along with the other people a lot and it was like we were teens at that point I think 16 or 17 and everyone kept hanging out drinking and stuff and I'm not about that. And we went to the super special class called the Baccalaureate program so all the smart kids went there. And I got in there because I was very good at English that's the only reason I got in there. I studied everything else in the English class so I wasn't the most popular kid especially since I was into anime and stuff so I was like the weird kid. I was not popular. So I think he sort of like traded me off for popularity and I was like you know he's been a loser kind of his whole life I'm gonna let him have this one. You know mage, that's an excellent point I also want to add to the point that it is a big propagandized myth that nerds are like actually good people or nice people That is like the shitest meme of all. I hate it so much every time you see like the scrappy loser kids honestly it's like an it all the kids who are like the outcast are like the best people and everyone else is literally an evil monster all the bullies are like fucking evil freaks but the loser kids only hang out with each other because they can't do any better that's why they hang out the second you give them a drop of something beyond that they'll seize it and they'll betray you at every turn you can't trust a nerd as far as you can throw particularly with the whole like oh he's gonna be better to a girl stereotype it's like there is going to be a surplus of giving they're taking the bait of paths to get the puss that's what they're doing that's what they're doing you're going to be able to perceive a above average level of giving a shit because of the desperation if they get it the desperation goes away that's okay man and then they haven't had the experience of trial and error and how to treat a woman gentlemanly that a fucking Chad would have by it that the same way and I know this game because I played it for many many years that was my ankle in like oh I need to go back I'm not shitting on them at all they're smart there I don't know what they're doing you know what it makes me think of it makes me think of Griffith from Berserk and how he was well you know I won't no need to go into the details but you know once he got like once he had all the power and once he could do whatever he wanted with no consequences he showed his true colors you know what's interesting about that Berserk really is the story of a friendship and how like yeah like I guess even the whole thing with Charlotte and like when he was pursuing you know marrying the princess and becoming king and getting his kingdom and all that he never really like betrayed guts in any serious way until he you know like the eclipse happened and like obviously that's you know that pretty much sums up his feelings right there like these people were his tools but Berserk he was nice to them and treated them well because he needed them that's right that's right and it's a complicated thing but yes it is very interesting I think that Griffith did show himself at the very least not a true friend to those individuals no kidding yes that's my uh that's as far as I'm willing to go that's my deep analysis of that situation and manga those guys are all okay those people if they were like hot 10 out of 10s you know they'd be banging cosplay sluts they wouldn't be hanging out making this commercial for soccer or con like a bunch of bullshit that's their angle man that's their angle in life to hang around Vic Minyana make these terrible commercials and go to soccer god every year my one the one ambition okay let's let's move on to another one Ben do you have a story for us a worthless friend of yours I remember one that involves you actually wait give me a hint because I'm thinking of one I just there I remember a vague story about when you used to ride the bus with a kid and he you seem to be really have fun with him but then when the other people were around he would he would be mean he'd be mean he proved that he didn't actually like you I actually don't know remember that story I think you might be thinking of someone else maybe the guy okay so I have a guy he I don't think he's not worthless like I actually like him in a lot of ways and like I'd still consider him a friend but he did prove to be troublesome like not just to me but to other people this was like god like maybe a year and a half ago before I moved in with Digi I was living I was living in this place in Medford which is near Boston it was called Monkey House and Monk yeah we called we were we were we were the we were six little Monkeys living in the house and jumping on the bed we went and fell off and call the doctor and the doctor said no more Monkeys I have been there actually I think I think like like the first day at Monkey House we all like jumped on a bed together to seal a rhyme teach you nothing to seal oh god we didn't yeah we really didn't think that went through did we but uh could have bonked your head on the floor dude so so Monkey House was a collaborative effort basically there was we knew we knew this guy I'll just say his name his name is say his first name Vic Mannyana I'll hide his name let's say his name is Carl so Carl like he had he was friends with me and another guy locally and then he had a couple of other friends from like these internet forums that they hung out on and talked about and like it came to pass well see when I first knew Carl I thought he was like a real ironic hipster kind of guy and he'd make all these funny like ha ha um you know sure I'm suspicious of the Jews ha ha not necessarily criticizing Middle Eastern genocide or anything or it stuff like that I thought it was a joke turned out not really not entirely and a bunch of so a bunch of these other guys that he brought in and it's literally the experience I had with Paul I really thought had the exact same arc I feel like Paul was like genetically engineered out of like one of his hair locks of hair they created Paul out of that guy I don't I don't mean to I don't mean to diminish this guy or like throw all of everything he thinks under a blanket statement because I talked to him a lot and he had a lot of knowledge and he had a lot of really complicated opinions that were not just simply oh I hate Muslims or whatever but you know he was a little him and his friends proved to be if not alt-right maybe kind of alt-right adjacent so that was troubling so alt tab right yeah um what should I got something bad to tell you Ben well got some bad news but that wasn't but that wasn't really the problem the problem was that like to get out of there like he basically just said like I have a house I have a bunch of people moving in do you want to split the rent and I was like sure and I moved in but like after we've been there for months it came out and I hadn't realized this that Carl had like Carl had really like fucked the other guys over because he had told them that the house was there and we had it and we had and that he needed more money from them immediately on the spot like oh what the fuck yeah to pay the down payment on the place to pay first month's rent or else there'd be no place that they could live so they basically had no choice but to lend him money right then and there or they'd be homeless which they did brick and then for months he kept telling them like oh I'm gonna pay you back I'm gonna pay you back but he didn't work like his his dad owned a little print shop and his dad would have let him work anytime he wanted but he frequently didn't he would just kind of sit around say he was doing things when he wasn't he would the final oh I remember this guy now the final fucking straw came when we were like Carl this month we cannot be laid on rent again because we'll be kicked out like we'll just level with us will you have it yes like days before Carl okay we're serious just be straight with us we're not gonna be mad are you gonna have the money on time yes and of course the day comes and goes and no he doesn't have it and we're all like shit we've gotta cover his part so we fucking me and some of the other guys went up a new grabbed all his stuff and gathered it together and put it in the living room and he came home that day and one this other guy Matt was like Carl walks in the door and Matt's just like Carl welcome home now get the fuck out of here and we just turned him around and sent him away and it was sad but he richly deserved it that is sad I think that's the exact kind of worthless friend story I was hoping to hear that's exactly right he um yeah he he he dragged his feet about paying those guys back I think that later he eventually did I don't know how but I think how benevolent of him yeah I think it came like after much conversation with everyone involved my theory was that he was hoping to just get himself in so much debt and like fuck him his own situation to such an extent that it would be so hopeless that some like rich guy that they knew on these forums that they hung out with would just like throw him a bone and be like here I'll cover your debts for you um but it didn't happen interesting strategy um but it didn't happen you forgot to be a hot girl portion of that yeah I think this guy had gotten I think the guy had like had like spotted him before like this was yeah Carl is the kind of guy who kind of gets by on pity a lot of the time and will like spin a sad story to get people to like give him stuff and to like forgive transgressions and forgive debts and things that's just no way to run your life it's not my question is why does he have to actually go into debt why can't he just tell the guy online hey I'm in debt give me the money you know um I don't know maybe he probably it's the internet dude but I guess I don't think he's lying but I guess it didn't well maybe I'm thinking maybe because the other guys would be able to corroborate the story like yeah Carl owes me all this money and he can't pay it back so more importantly his conscious mind will be able to corroborate the story like you know there's a big difference between like people who lie and they know they're lying versus the guy that you're describing Ben if you know what I mean like it seems like a person who lies to themselves enough that they can either way up to the top of the trapeze but they can't ascend outside of the entire fucking circus into the heavens just on mental gymnastics alone they just can't break that glass ceiling to get beyond to the freedom above I want to say that like this guy never fucked me personally over like that so I don't have any like personal beef with him and like I do like him and think he's pretty fun to hang out with and he's he's not worthless he really did he really did fuck these guys over under the guys of friendship and it really sucked no one no one is truly worthless but we're here to make sweeping generalizations about people's character that we know absolutely it's understood yeah so yeah that's the tale of Carl I have a short one actually I realize I actually have two stories okay so I actually I actually don't have any that are actually my friends I just have two ones that I experienced adjacently through for shitty people I like for me the definition of liking someone is that they like me that's not you can't just get me to like you by liking me but that's like 80% of it to be completely honest like if you like me then you're probably the kind of person I want to hang out with if you don't like me if you don't value me I don't value you for the most part but you like me Davoo how do you explain that hello well got him I like you so what do you want so this one is from childhood right this is my brother you know my brother's a more sociable person he's very much that he's sort of a chivalrous outdoorsman kind of guy or at least he was a fedora tipper of the highest caliber no well he's never he used to be in the like tennis and BB guns like the entire bird population of our yard was eliminated within a summer which is great there's no more poop anywhere and now he's into like the only guy he's the only guy so was I when I was a kid yeah how do you go from guns to ballet it seems like two completely different things you watch a little anime called princess 2 the pendulum the pendulum always swings in the other direction yeah well it's like the fucking heterosexualist thing you could ever do because he just goes around grabbing the shit out of girls and touching them he's like yeah it's pretty cool so actually he's doing ballet class he's like in the class it's like this fucking like makes it a lot less dope oh no but you know who I don't know how he's because like he got into it because our youngest sister has been into dance and she was like four and I guess my brother was just like I guess I'll try it too and now that he's the only guy let alone like a six foot really strong guy he got sent like to a trip to Israel because they were gonna do some like performances there for like a whole month and they were like well we need someone to pick them up for the whole a really badly done rendition of the Pink Floyd album with the light coming out of the other side as the rainbow it's really shilling me dark side of the moon yeah dark side of the moon now it's my wallet anyway that's the kind of man this is right so he's the kind of man who trusts you even if I don't know if it's necessarily worth it so we were kids and he was like 11 my brother's name is Aaron this kid's name I think his name was Josh I don't remember and he was just a kind of like charming attractive manipulator kind of guy who would just the stakes weren't that high because we're all 11 here but you know you know how it is and the thing that was yeah his whole upbringing is you know single mom fucking will do drugs someone gets shot or whatever we didn't live in a great neighborhood we lived a few streets away from where you know there was like literally a tree growing into someone's wall and they never fixed it for some reason that part of neighborhood was where Josh was from and the thing that was really notable to me I remember specifically he fucked over my brother seven times I specifically counted the number of times he lied to him and like Aaron how long are you going to keep trusting him but the most notable thing Aaron's got to forgive him until he fucks him over seventy times seven times yeah yeah and like and the weirdest thing is that Josh had so many mannerisms that reminded me not to get political but reminded me of Bill Clinton like astonishingly he had like the same smile the same demeanor despite being like fucked a lot of secretaries probably has by now yeah hedgehog oh he's probably oh he's probably a snap and get a pussy kinda guy at this point I imagine I believe he went to Julia one point he just looks down his penis he snaps he's got a pussy he's like you know really charming and attractive and skinny and like got that boyish charm is his wife un-electable yes so yeah well that doesn't sound like Bill Clinton at all it was just a really interesting thing to me at the time cause I was probably like 13 or 14 or whatever what Bill Clinton was you know not that fucking young and yeah I guess that's really all there is to say about that so so wait what were the seven ways that he's fucked him up I don't remember it was all a bunch of dumb pre-teen bullshit but it wasn't anything too big just like I actually don't remember at all so I'm not even trying okay alright we've thrown this man out of the bus fuck that guy I condemn him to death oh I remember one short one as well well actually but before you say I just want to say that you know Josh I I never thought that it'd be so simple but I found a way I found a way when you open oh there it is see what's inside it takes you time to realize but if you look to realize actually I found out it's real life not real life I'm always I was always I was always I was always I was really glad to see your brother I was really happy your brother Aaron Drake to VU finally made up with Josh recently that's wait is to VU my last name Dva is my first name it is it is for this joke baby boy okay I'm sorry alright Mage what do you got for us yeah it'll be just quick much like the nerd in the last story I don't dislike her at the current state it just so happens the way it happened like she we met also when I was very little even younger than eight I think it was up five or six and we were friends for almost a decade I think and she maybe less she she kind of was a bit of a liar but she didn't do it I'd like to see on purpose but like I mean you know when you're lying but it's like you know little kids being little kids and she just wanted to impress so she would sometimes make up lies so I can't really hold it against her but the thing about her though she would sometimes make really stupid decisions in her life and every time she would come to me and be like hey I want to do this thing or hey I'm going to do this thing I would be like no that sounds like a bad idea you're going to regret this and she never listened to me and she got in trouble and then she would come back to me and be like I should have listened to you and it would repeat for many many years for many many occasions she never listened to me despite you know admitting that post fact she had she should have listened to me the very last thing she didn't listen to me a new girl would have moved into the neighborhood we were sort of neighbors in the same neighborhood and I could tell she was trouble she was the kind of like you know preppy long-haired bit of a skanky sort of girl and my kind of girl I think the words right out of my fucking mouth 13, 14 at the time oh that's really my kind of girl oh there we go a skanky 13 year old can I move to what Lithuania fuck you there but basically she moved in and she she was very much like a drama whore I think we've never dealt with this sort of person but I knew she was trouble the moment I met her I did give her a chance but just from interacting with her I knew that she's gonna lead people down the wrong path and my friend sort of got friends with her and I was like don't become good friends with her just like you know stay cautious please be mindful you know she's probably gonna get you into like alcohol and smoking and maybe even drugs who knows like I knew I knew she was gonna be like that because we were living in a not the best neighborhood let me tell you lots of drug people like surprisingly I kept hearing stories about people using drugs and like other stuff like all these spooky stories in our neighborhood and I never met any person that actually did that I was like where are these stories come from because they knew that you were beating up boys with your Dragon Ball Z moves and they knew to stay away from them did I tell you that story? should I not have said that? was that told to them? no I'm just I'm just surprised I was beating the people with Dragon Ball Z moves okay are we talking like Spirit Bomb or like Dragon Punch or Punching we punched each other and it was that's how we played when I was little our games was like we would punch each other until it would hurt and that was fun but we were playing Dragon Ball Z so it was okay so is this this person someone who never really became a close friend but was like a fake friend or was just a friend of low caliber she was like quite a close friend to her I was her best and sometimes on some occasions even the only friend she had so we were really close friends and yeah I told her not to get close to her because I knew she was going to be in trouble and same like the nerd guy you know she changed me for that girl and we never talked again just kind of like part ways traded up traded up can't say I heard stories about her and not very good ones about how she when like she the thing is though like I don't want to like you know stereotype or whatever but this is a story that was quite common of in in Lafayne at that time considering the time we lived in like a lot of broken families and stuff like that she she came for a very poor and a broken family and her chances of like you know getting a good life were pretty low in comparison and but everything changed upon the election of Donald Trump you follow me but yeah but yeah she yeah so like I really I really wanted to try and you know lead her on on the good path just like to give her a chance to like not fall down the same rabbit hole her mom fell down but it seemed the history repeated herself itself with her so I'm sad I did I did the best you know if she doesn't want to be my friend yeah she didn't want to be my friend anymore and she wanted to hang out with this ganky girl so you know any person who I'm getting into some sort of affiliation with and I recognize some major problem and the only the only way I'm going to have a long term affiliation with them is if that problem is rectified or addressed this individual has the social equivalent of a five second span to prove that they are self aware self deprecating about that issue and are willing on some level to deal with that problem themselves then I'm like alright bye you know like I have a very short very short patience for people who are not willing to address themselves and a pretty long patience for people who are like people who will like regularly with absolute genuineness say sorry and they don't do the same thing a second time like they're really showing a a statistical improvement chart you know oh I just remember this friend also got me okay if you say so yeah for the lesbian cast I have a story this one is actually about it's about me being a shitty friend it's about me being the worthless friend the plot twist wait is that going to be the subject because I mean that kind of needs its own episode with just me for about seven hours well that's fine I really only have this one story because I really don't have any experience of a friend proving to be shitty or worthless he just started being boring so I didn't I'm sure you've got some but that's not hell yeah Nate high taste boys we got we're very fucking selective that's how it should be done I discard what is worthless to me which is everyone I've ever known yeah basically and you all will be too in time I look forward to it immensely but let me tell you about the time where I was a terrible friend so yeah this is basically worthless I suppose I don't think I have on here so two years ago a friend of mine got married so I fly back to Massachusetts for the wedding I haven't been there in a while and so I'm at the wedding it's a good time all my old friends are there from school it's absolutely fantastic and I my one friend brings a date and this date is like I've seen her several times before when we've been hanging out they'd known each other for a while and she was clearly friend zoning this guy and man she just turned it on for me man what can I say she just turned on all the signals the touch and the extended eye contact laughing at jokes that I was not even attempting to make and what could I do what could I do you know what could a man do in this kind of situation so the extent of it was we kissed at the wedding for a while yeah and I don't want to glorify this this was a very bad thing I was doing I was simply this is an excuse I had not gotten late in quite a while so I was just like finally finally an opportunity for 22 years here we go no no more recent than that but anyway yeah so what can I say man I just made out with my friends date they had like they were not dating I was in my drunken way I was like asking her like so are you guys like an item like is this okay what are we doing right now she was like oh yeah it's fine don't worry about it don't worry about it in his mind you know I just my judgment was way fucked up I totally was a bad person at the time I don't know Nate I regret it deeply I don't think you did anything wrong I mean that woman is her own being if she's not into that guy and she's into you like why would you like he'd be fucking you over if you weren't allowed to make out with that hot shoe you know what I am perfectly willing to say that from a from a basically like moral standpoint like no no contract has really been violated in this situation but simply from possible to your friend this was not 100% cool to my friend you know so on that scale you know since we're talking about friendship specifically this is not the best way to maintain a friendship you know like probably not probably a pretty poor way to do that exactly exactly and I regret it deeply if you're listening to this friend I apologize sincerely I regret it all the time he's definitely not listening but in any case I am very sorry I will not do it again I've learned my lesson that's it that's that's that's all I got really I got well I'm gonna have to one up all of you because I've got the most worthless friend of all time and you guys are gonna your jobs are gonna drop hope you guys are ready hope you're all sitting down because this story I'm sitting man is gonna revolutionize the PCB podcast as we know it fuck yeah not too long ago I had a decently good friend of mine and we decided you know what we're gonna start a podcast together that'd be real good and you know let's try to do this consistently let's work together no and you know we decided the podcast would be reviewing each Naruto panel one at a time Oh that's a good idea that's a great idea for a show we thought it was a good one we would cry out for that one yeah so we did the first one it's a huge hit probably the most popular channel on video on that channel at the time but then the friend just like disappeared she like disappeared like to some fucking Middle Eastern European country with like no microphone and I didn't hear from her for like three or four months like what the fuck vacation without a microphone she left you hanging she left you hanging like that what the fuck yeah worthless I say how dare she horrible I'd be pretty fucking I'll never know what happens on Naruto page two now Max revived the Nauru cask I knew it you're attacking the wrong source here because like the ultimate problem is the lack of abundant fucking microphones in all the places like I'm all about I'm all about UBB universal basic blue yeti and like everyone should be entitled to one at all times or else like life cannot function we end up with all these fucking you know fan dubs and review collaborations or even interviews with some celebrity who's currently at his house that always has half shit audio this is a big issue that needs to be saved for the everyone is shit for us podcast if Bernie had just pushed the UBB platform during the primary god damn it everything would have been different fucking Hillary was mic and everybody ate that shit up yeah I know right oh god I used to have a snowball mic and I would take it along for journeys but I would get stopped every single time at the airport because of it so because of these minor moments of inconvenience that is worth it's worth ruining your your lucrative no the microphone the microphone broke so I got a new one but this one is an XLR and it plugs into what's it called those mixer thingies audio mixing yeah I know yeah so like I can't take the microphone the microphone stand the mixie thingy and all the wires all with me with just one little bag thingy where I have to make an excuse this seems irrelevant I wasn't talking about you I don't know why you're bringing up you're sorry we're talking about microphones and I mentioned my microphone power problems seemed relevant I should make it like a public thing maybe this other mystery person suffered from the same problem we should we should we should extend her the benefit of the doubt wherever she is I don't know Ben I'm ready to bury her into the fucking prison point I think I'm ready to throw away the key you know Nate when I needed a microphone help you sent me like an Amazon wish list of all the things to get like you should publish that shit publicly I was just saying that or I was just about to say that yeah like we should make that public like the PCP standard can anybody get on Amazon and like do an affiliate program things people buy things that we link them to we get some of the money you have to have like a partnership with Amazon in order to do that first or something so like you'd have to like talk to those guys I think pretty sure listeners my audio set is about 200 it's a $99 SM58 yeah sure SM58 which is like the AK47 of microphones it's the most famous one then they have an M audio M track which is $100 there might be better ones but it's really simple doesn't have that much extraneous shit I don't use so if you find my audio quality perfectly fine then do that Michael guys we're being really shit friends by derelling this podcast about shit friends right now wait okay mage if you want to finish go ahead I'm sorry no I just said my microphone was like 20 bucks so if you like this Ben and I Ben and I made world famous channel YouTube channel T-Bap we're using $130 microphone for like years and Ben still use it on the PCP for a long time and might be using it right now are you still using that mic Ben? no I'm using I'm using a blue yeti right now although I still have that one laying around somewhere yeah yeah it's a champion it's a champion the thing is like 99% of audience members don't even notice like slight differences in audio quality see that's true the thing is using that using that piece of shit microphone I never noticed a problem because I was listening to it this was back when I had my laptop I was listening to the podcast on my laptop speakers through laptop headphones right and it was only when Digi pulled me aside and was like Ben this has to stop and I was like what are you talking about dude it's fun and then he brought me up to his fucking room and played it to me on legit speakers and suddenly I was like oh my god I sound so much tinier than everyone else like the difference is palpable and like what have I done what have I done I was a real shit friend of the podcast back in those days it's true it's very true the people need to be educated on audio quality so that they'll buy our fucking affiliate like microphones or something yeah but I didn't know why don't you save yourself a week and do a why am I genius weekly on fucking microphone shit like that'd be easiest shit not a terrible idea not a I remember I put like into one of my I think it's like that last day of Mia Mathova I like just for a second I was like this is why I have to like take all this time to fix the audio sound like from the camera microphone it's just like an ear raping like you know camera mic I didn't even edit it just sounds like that but that'd be fun that's not a bad idea it would be like super helpful especially if you showed how to connect everything because I spent about three hours trying to figure it out I could put together the Amazon wish list and make it a whole big thing that's not a bad idea there you go very interesting very interesting okay back on the friendship thing anyone else have a star I mean actually a really even smaller story actually that's like someone who is my friend but like just it didn't end up being like quite worth it enough where it's like it's someone who gives very little and takes more you know it's like someone who is very emotionally like in need of people but he's already like the reason why I didn't feel bad about going into oh sorry it's been two weeks since I responded to your message mode with him is because he has other friends so it's like necessarily you know and even if he did have friends does that mean he's entitled to your time and he's just ultimately it's because he's like gone to college for like different art mediums and yet his art medium ability is like like his drawing ability is I'd say at least in half order of magnitude worse than me and it's like if you went to college and you're worse than me then I don't and you're like four years older than me then it's like you're just I don't know how many I'm pretty sure most of the PCP have the same standard of me of like if the main thing that I connect with you over is art but you are a really bad artist then you're not that valuable as a person you know Davoo I got to admit it now's a good time to launch into a portion of what I want to discuss with this and that is the idea that like you owe your friends something that your friends are like owed you your time or your energy in some way that are really valuable to me in the sense that they continue to be actually valuable to me and are a worthwhile usage of my time in some way and the second that someone isn't they can still call them your friend you can have a history or whatever but there's no point in staying involved with their lives or wasting your energy and time on maintaining that kind of relationship yeah it's all about whether it's worth it or not yeah like yeah and like there's no reason to like let an old friend like yo what's up because those people have something of value they have my history is in them and my old relationships and there's no reason to discard them but like if I have a shitty friend who I barely knew from back in high school who messages me as has happened and it's like yo dude what's going on let's catch up I'm like don't ever speak to me again you have nothing of value to offer me you are this is an act of violence you're perpetuating against me by wasting my time you are stealing my time for me by sending you this message I need you to read it never do this again that's violence that's violence go your fucking face your Nate's face that's right I need to go to my Nate's face is it just like anime posters and a Hillary Clinton cut out and that's the Nate's face and power bars and like cans of beans just like cans of beans you know how you know how fucking safe spaces on campus like official ones they're filled with videos with puppies and flowers coloring books and shit yeah mine is just like streaming girl and logging on like 10 TVs across you've got your Hillary cutouts you've got your copies of what happened lining a shelf everything you need everything you need to mentally re-energize yourself what happened trigger you even more wouldn't you rather read it takes a village no it's a brilliant alt reality story from the mind of a genius author Hillary Clinton someone else comes they grab your girl and gone coloring book and you're like oh hey but they grab the orange marker oh my god we have to delete all orange crayons cannot be allowed send them all to the gulags they can't be allowed anymore oh my god what a journey we've just taken we need to decide what everybody's safe space would look like I agree this will be its own episode I mean Ben's safe space it's just your local dumpster right behind you stop it let's do this for a bonus episode someday let's not ruin it that's a good idea that's a good idea okay we'll get all nine of us in there at the same time and just fucking go him okay but to finish my point from before it was just when I think about friends I honestly maybe this is a bad sign but I think about it the same way that Griffith articulates it oh shit in his speed it just before he did anything bad or you know really bad he did murder children Griffith was right about some things which is why there's such a hot debate about him to this day and his speech that guts over here is about like how his friends are the ones that keep up with him you know they're his peers they're not the people who just like you know I mean he frames us like like not even parasites but like his loyal soldiers are not his friends his friends are the people with their their own ambition and their own drive in life because like this is the thing nobody wants to talk about followers in this world really do drain the energy of the leaders like employees everyone the fucking Democrats for example just want to like frame workers as like these these virtuous like you know plebeian citizens of this great world that offer so much value to their leaders but without those leaders those people wouldn't have fucking jobs and wouldn't have fucking shit and the whole economy is floated up by these you know people at the top orchestrating it to be so and a rising tide lifts all boats and I'm speaking in some generalities here but I really do think about like it's not worth that way and if someone is not worth my time spent on you it's no insult to you I just don't want to waste my time which is why I fucking get messages on discord people in my fan chat and shit stop wasting my time I don't give a fuck about you tweet at me or something that at least waste less of my time but there you go here's a story about why your friends are not yeah it's about not owing friends things and it's also about why working with not always don't you mean not ever holy shit well it's up there I mean me and Nate work together on tbap and that ended up working out fine so it can work it was a struggle but you both proved to be true people not friends you proved to be actual artists in the east I'm prepared to frame us as the rare few I'm prepared to do that to be that virtuous well let me tell you about something a disappointing tale for my life I have which one I still have this friend and like years ago this guy he well he wanted to make video games and we were really we were really into roguelikes who is that you we were really into roguelikes at the time and like he said I'm gonna make a simple roguelike game and I was like you know okay this is a guy who's serious computer science and computers and video gaming and stuff and like I believe in this guy I believe that he's gonna follow through on this so I agreed to help and I did a bunch of work I did a bunch of work on this project I made like a ton of really nice sprites and I made like this sick animated intro screen for it I remember like on the plane to Poland I was like on the plane I had my laptop open and I was drawing monster sprites and I was really proud of a lot of them I was drawing like floor tiles and stuff I was really putting the energy in to like make the floor I remember I was drawing vine floor tiles and I had to draw them in such a way that they could connect and be continuous like if you were walking on like a viney jungle floor oh yeah I've gotten ooh I love mmm oh yeah yeah fuck so long story short the game never happened and so I told it against the guy like I don't he's not a worthless friend I don't hate him or anything for it but looking back I'm like I kind of wish that I had done less for a friend at that point because he hadn't like proved he hadn't like proved that he was willing to follow through on it in order to make my investment oh I feel like if being over promising under delivering in their art was a deal breaker for friendship I would have no friends yeah yeah it's something like it's something that everybody does and you like you shouldn't well I would say it doesn't make them a bad person or a bad friend like it just you have to you have to be responsible yeah you have to take the responsibility of being like I'm not I'm not going to commit to this thing I can I can smell the not that serious coming from people a mile away there's always ulterior motives there's very few people who want to do art just for art like when my brother with me which is also a motivation for me as well but it's like at some point or another the art becomes we work in separate different little sections we're not like locking arms 24-7 and when he realizes that it's like he loses interest and it's like alright you know what's you know what's fascinating about this to me I really feel like I I mean we probably all have this story but I have taken the journey from that guy to the guy I am now and a lot of it really was not to give myself too much credit is that I actually want to do and what makes me happy to be working on because you know I've talked about this before like I went to school for programming and like I got a minor in sort of the game design equivalent at my school and you know that's complete I have my degree in it and I was in the like the game development club that I helped start at that school you know my other guy really was the champion but I was like the secretary or treasure or something and like we would get together we had a team of people who were like willing to do it so it was my idea and it was good but it didn't get finished so like afterward at the game development sorry in the game club like I pitched like hey guys let's remake this game as an app like as a mobile game because I think it really works for it and would be really great and has a lot of would work with that which I think it would it was a game called monochrome I remember you could still get it in some places I had a version on my phone for a while so me and a team like were working on it and developing on it but the problem was I had like a team of people who really were willing to put in time to like make it happen and we got pretty far along but at the end of it like I just wasn't willing to invest the time to like finally finish the thing and get it done you know we needed to develop like a ton of levels we needed to do a lot of UI work and stuff and I just really didn't have the the conviction to like lead this this team to finish it you know a lot of it would be me personally programming and stuff and so it just it never got completely finished which I deeply regret to this day because I think it was a real winner yeah I mean I used to be that kind of guy it's just that it's just that I I wasn't like on board with that like one of the reasons that I even was interested in doing videos in the first place is because the turn around between deciding to make a video I mean it's ironic that for me I started making videos that took me six months to make because like my first the thing that I like about it is that a game can take like years to finish even like an indie game the first game I really made took like a full year to be finished developing and like a video can take like a day if it's fast or like a month for one that takes more work and shit and yeah like now looking back at myself there like when I was in this mode man I used to like be terrified of myself like oh my god I'm so worthless I'm never going to have the conviction to like actually get the things done in my life that I want to do and now that I sit here where I am having accomplished the things I have and you know with figured it the fuck out and to waste your time working with friends who are who are like me as I used to be is not only hurting yourself and your own time but is hurting them because it does not help to just give these people more things they have to work for it and figure out themselves what motivates them and possibly more importantly what avenues they are interested in pursuing because the personal drive factor is so essential at least in my experience to actually motivating you to do the fucking work and accomplish the things you want to accomplish yeah I was like in that I was just I think I was almost always doing some stupid shitty art thing I was just flip flopping constantly never getting anything done yeah exactly what you said and then it was just simply a matter of being forced to work a regular job that like just I'm sure I've described this a million times across different podcasts but there was just some sort of snowball at the top of my head that needed to be pushed and then it was rolled and now I've been great ever since I started making a video game very quickly realized I didn't know what I was doing but I was like I am going to finish this I ended up only finishing one half of it like the first half of the game is fully playable but she is fucking not very good you can barely see what you're doing but I just pushed through every day I had no fun for it very little passion for it I just kept doing it and now I'm fucking reliable and it's great and then the whole recently I squared away the whole actually trying to be good aspect of art which I think I might be doing so and you know what's essential to this whole process self-betterment and the desire to improve your own station which is why I want to say to all our anti-fod listeners out there and I know they're the vast majority communism guys it's not going to work it's not going to fucking work people have to motivate themselves by their own betterment you can't work for a collective good it just doesn't fucking work someone should make a video about communism you know that's if only some hero would step forward and it should be like a parody of a really old like 15 year old show on Nickelodeon that'd be really funny because it's like I still think that would work it'd be called The Truth About Communism by Stefan Molyneux yeah that'd be good I'd watch that let's pray for that let's pray for that so okay fucking I'm satisfied with that should we hear Mages big old story now her finale I'm ready for it oh I got the lube ready don't tell me will you don't don't tell me will you don't don't don't don't commit violence against Mages like that monkey that's very not acceptable when I play Yu-Gi-Oh my favorite card is Mage Power great nerd I wish I knew Yu-Gi-Oh enough to laugh more at that okay for every spell and trap card you gain 500 attack points oh my god that's pretty good Mage being here makes us all strong sounds like a real top tier threat in the OU meta game it fucking is that card should have flaming flaming a sprite you're dead if you like that card would be banned if it isn't already no it's not banned really isn't literally every card in Yu-Gi-Oh banned no around that area quite popular cards that were banned you don't remember the names Reborn the monster was banned because it was too good yeah and like the Karibo thing knock off with three eyes I think that was banned as well what's it face every gut three-eyed Karibo as much as I love to go into the Karibo but he was Yu-Gi-Oh card lore yeah let's hear your story about your shitty friend I'm really eager for it Yu-Gi-Oh is all about friends okay yeah so you're right just first disclaimer we we had some good times with this person she wasn't awful to me all the time otherwise we wouldn't have been friends for like literally a decade and I do mean at least decade we met when I think I was five or so and our friendship ended around sixteen so more than a decade and I still have sort of nightmares with her well I wouldn't say bad dreams about her just arguing with her screaming at each other she's like she's affected me quite a lot I mean when you know a person for at least ten years they're not gonna leave your subconscious anytime soon you know sure sure okay so like she was always such a very petty and stubborn person and she would be like the only friend I would have such big fights with that we would you know it's kind of like this discontinued our friendship and we're like we don't have friends anymore and then like it would take like a week later for one of us to apologize and become friends again mostly because like we lived in the same neighborhood so like it was kind of hard to play with our friends and not be there together so it was just easier on us to be friends again I think and for the most part sounds like a healthy basis for a relationship we have to be friends and for the most part we you know we didn't have fun and then we ended up going into the same class as well and that's where we meant our best friend like she was best friend to both of us the one with the brother that I mentioned the first story and yeah it's and it was just this free for the longest of times until you know the whole thing happened and just to sort of like the things she would deal with the way how petty she got there was this one argument we had that was never resolved I might have told this to a few people so like back in the day before internet was a thing or at least we didn't have it there a song came out I think by Jennifer Lopez like Jenny from the block keep in mind like English not her first language and the fact that I spoke English at that age was a miracle in itself and my friend also could speak English but not as well as me so we argued about the lyrics of the song and holy shit let me tell you how stupid and good how relatable okay so like the lyrics were like Jenny from the block and that's what I claimed you know she was saying Jenny from the block and she insisted that she said Jenny from the back as in back from you know the past that sort of term and I was like that does not make sense she means Jenny from the block but the thing is I don't think in the union we have the term for block or at least it wasn't a word as little kids at that age would know and I tried to explain to her what block meant but she would have none of it and we we got in such a big fight over it we ended our friendship for a while I would end a friendship over something like that and then like the thing is she ended it because she would have none of it and despite everything like the only way the only way we could become friends again if we both agreed that one time she sang Jenny from the block and the other time she said Jenny I knew it was wrong but that's the only way we had to keep peace and even like years later when we did have internet and I looked up the lyrics and I showed it to her and I was like hey remember this argument we had and she still was like oh well you know that's on the internet you can't trust everything with us on the internet are you telling me someone would just go on the internet and tell lies I don't fucking believe it and it's like she had none of it and we never resolved this issue she did not want to be wrong I think like she the three messy tears of us the way our friendship worked was like she was sort of like you know the badass tomboy leader sort of character and I was a bit of like the comic relief I guess and you know leaders don't take shit from the comic relief you know of course and she would not let me be right she never wanted me to be right she kept putting me down she was always right she knew best she always also mistreated me in ways that are only really recently realized that holy shit she kind of really mistreated me because like we were both like art people we draw a lot dare I say it was a slightly better than her I don't want to suit my own heart uh oh I am serious though you know she had talent of her own but I think I was just slightly a few steps ahead of her like also when talking in English as well like I think one time I sort of said oh hey you know you didn't draw the nose are you gonna put in or is that gonna be your style you know without the nose and it was like oh you know that's how I draw it she told me and then ever since then she never really showed me her drawings she would show it to every other friend not me she would never let me touch her things like I couldn't touch her pencil pencil case backpack like anything of hers she would let other people just touch and borrow sometimes even without asking I had to specifically ask and sometimes she wouldn't even let me this really reminds me of the situation in Clockwork Orange where the droogs start to challenge the leader of the droogs you know what's his name and he cannot she cannot stand for this you have to be crushed you have to be crushed to remain subservient that kind of pettiness is something that sounds in line with myself like yeah I would probably do that I call that strong I'm impressed I'm on her I'm letting you know I'm on her side right now she's a she's a powerful leader rude but I mean so now I lost my but yeah she was very petty she would also like take things very personally whenever like I would do something I was I was a tall clumsy child by the way sometimes things would drop from my hands and sometimes I would give her a flat foot just because when we were three we can all walk in a line I had to go you know I would fall behind them I would follow and sometimes my big steps would be too big and if they you know slow down I would end up giving her a flat foot not out of not on purpose but she would I think she assumed it was out of malice or something because I think the way she thought you know like because she had some sort of prejudice against me and she wished ill upon me so but the thing is I was like stupidly clueless about her ill will at that age I didn't realize she was mistreating me I was like oh we're we're all friends and okay she has a short temper that's fine you know I'll just try not to cross her path or whatever we're done with this with this summary because it segues really well into the main one I want to get to so yeah it's cool because I didn't take her shit anymore so much and I would like you know have my own opinion and I would speak that didn't go well and um yeah our fights would get more frequent and our common friend the best friend she kinda had to tolerate being in between us because we both like hang out with her and we refused to let the other one have her in a way and like at some point my the best friend she sort of realized that you know the other one she was being a bit toxic and she was like you know we should maybe stop hanging out with her so much because you know she's a bad influence on me I was surprised how self aware my friend was and I was like yeah I think you know it would be kind of for the best in a way if we just you know just kind of you know stopped because she not really like let me let me finish the story that's how she we were planning things but the thing is though around the the time oh hold on one thing one other petty thing she did at this time when we were around 16 okay let me lay into her maze just let me tell you so I got a locker I got a locker for free otherwise you have to pay for lockers but I got a locker for free because I was a really poor child and they give like really poor children I was like oh cool a locker and my friend she didn't get a locker because you know she wasn't poor enough I guess but I was like you know this locker is big for two people I could share it with you and I let her share my locker with me for free and okay so like I was doing a really nice thing I think you know because we could like put our coats in there and we could go home together and stuff like that you know like place where you put coats in and whatever so we also went to this after school activity like art club it didn't teach you art you just like kind of hang out there and be friends and you do artsy things and the teacher was really cool and we each got our own desks and the desks were like really old desks that were probably gonna be like thrown out if they weren't reused and like we could just like have fun with those desks we could paint all over those desks whatever we wanted those were really cool mine was a very edgy red and black one ooh a little Nazi propaganda on there no no there was no white and I was late nose the colors of the Nazi flag I just fucked it up as you can see clearly I'm not I wasn't tearing you down I was holding her up for knowing it oh yeah you're right yeah yeah so the thing she did I didn't know it was her because no one else disliked me that much at the time I would think and I couldn't hang out at the after school activities so much at that time it was the time I went to the like the international gallery program again so you know lots of homework what not so like I would often come back to like trash on my left on my desk usually like from snacks or like like an empty cup from like those machines that you get like coffee or hot chocolate and I knew it was her because I would sometimes see her buy these these specific items that would be left on my table so one time I decided to just take all of those things and put it on her desk and see how she would react because it's her trash and technically I'm not doing a very bad thing here I'm just returning the trash where it belongs and then the next you're committing the worst sin imaginable made just performing disrespect against your leader we'll see how that goes and then the next day after that I found my desk dragged all the way out of the class into like the hallway and almost outside of the whole school and it was like this was also in the basement so thankfully no one like really saw it other than me but it was like yeah the contrary was her because she knew where she left her trash so she knew who left the trash on her desk so yeah it was her and like so I sort of like went on non-speaking terms with her and I told her a common friend could you tell her please that you know if she doesn't knock this shit off you know I would prefer to get like the key you'll fuck her up I would prefer to get the key to the locker bag because I'm not going to share a locker with person I don't consider my friend and yeah she just sort of like threw the key at me and I guess I got the key back and we didn't share the locker anymore it was it also like the whole plan about you know not being friends with her anymore that kind of fell through because I went to the baccalaureate class while those two got stuck together in the same class because their last names were literally one letter apart so of course they were going to be stuck in the same class unlike me so you know they kind of ended up being closer friends than before and that was around the time I became best friends with the brother rather than her because she started becoming a bit of a bitch because of the influence and the theory thing she noticed that was going to happen to her and she let it happen and I was like gee thanks yeah man you can judge a lot about a person from the kind of people they hang out with it's true that's why you're all scumbags because I'm in here it's true it's true she was awful I think also I have a suspicion now I'm being like paranoid I guess like we also started our very first comic together my idea by the way initially but she jumped on the she quit after the first issue that must have really hurt no no no like we both oh no let's not drag that up again let's not open those old wounds it was like you know we both had our own comic that we worked on but it was the same idea which was my idea it was a Dragon Ball C fan comic with our self-inserts oh yeah wait a minute how is that we were at the perfect foundation for our relationship wait a minute we were eight I just remembered I just remembered I have a similar story about someone else who isn't mage who um uh oh we were doing that we were doing that pony comic we were doing that we were doing shelf deprecation about phantom and aurora and it never happened uh oh interesting interesting okay another one for the gulags I guess whoever this person is she's betrayed two of us who knows how long until she gets to the rest okay but yeah so we were both working on our own own adventure comics our very first comics and we showed it to the guys in our neighborhood and we were like oh that's so cool and we liked both of them equally and um I was really proud of that and I wish I still haven't like I even like made it into like I put paper and I sewed it together and to make little comic pages I didn't just take like a you know a notebook and join it like most of my other comics I really worked hard on this it was like my magnum opus at my eight year old could manage and like I was really happy with it I even colored it I colored it it's like that's something I didn't do since and out of all my comics of all the the two boxes full of comics that I had started and never finished and that was that was the one I think I did sort of finish but it left on a cliffhanger and so like that one comic was the only one that went missing and I have a feeling that she was the reason why because like so like the actual like omega or the alpha version of the comic itself like just disappeared yeah and got jacked yeah oh no yeah the thing is though I did lend my comics to my friends a lot to read them and you know and let them see what they think and stuff and all the comics would return to me and I knew I knew who you know who would get their hands on who and who to ask her to return them but like that one comic it just I don't remember lending it to anyone and it just disappeared but she was the only one of the few friends that had access to the comics as easily as she did so I have a feeling she might have had a hand in it I mean I could be just you know seeing malice where there wasn't it could have just gotten lost and it just so happened to be that one comic that we started to sort of together they say you should never assume malice your incompetence would explain what a yeah okay I'm never mind I'm just I know the saying and I do try to live by that saying personally right now but it just like how petty and malicious she was I wouldn't put past her to do that to me so yeah and we just and she went off to college I think she first off to college at 16 years old and I stayed in school never saw her again up until like a few years ago back when I was returning to Lafiania and I saw her and I was like you know it's been like I don't know like five years it's more than five years since we last actually saw each other and spoke and I was like you know I don't want to be friends with her anymore especially how we treated each other but I sort of want to you know just end it on a common how we're we're on good sort of terms leave it on good terms and I saw her and I was so ready to be like hi you know it's been a while but then she looked up at me and she gave me the stinkiest I yes after all these years after all these years still feeling yeah like I was like dude it's been over half a decade and you're still like holding this clutch so the fact that they had more malice for you confirmed yeah and just like I didn't I ended up not saying hello to her because I was like well if you're gonna glare at me just seeing me after so many years I'm not I'm not gonna even bother anymore if that's the kind of person you want to be he's fine is it possible in this situation when you made this eye contact that she was that was her normal you know a lot of women have resting bitch face when they're in public I say well very run to the prison another one for the gulag there you go hey I'm kinda I'm kinda eager I'm kinda eager to get to questions yo I got my business on my I'm saving one whole fucking time how many times people are gonna undercut the questions before I get to my main thesis you just gotta you just gotta get to it stick it in there I see a trend in mage's stories childhood friends like elementary school one one decade too long and my my theory on this obviously is that when you get to know someone as a kid kids get along pretty well as Louis C.K. has said before it's typically because you're the same size there for your friends if you get attached you get emotionally invested in one another and you feel obligated you're connected now if it ends up getting broken apart at some point it's gonna be painful so you stick around and as you age your actual characteristics start to emerge in meaningful ways you start becoming people and that's when conflicts happen and so yeah like you're five years old and you become a friend and you stay there a friend you're gonna end up with a friendship that nine times out of ten wouldn't have gotten started in your adolescence but it's now in your adolescence and like it's not like being siblings where because you have genetic similarities you have a lot to be united over and relate with living together you have to get along you have to reconcile but when it's just a friend someone who you can get pissed off at for twenty minutes go home and then like think about how pissed off you are proud of them and like there's no need to rectify the situation then things can get shitty and like this is what happened with my girlfriend's friend who it was like a friend of like I think 13 years and just recently sort of like came to this annoying fight that had to end the friendship and they had been fighting since before I met my girlfriend for random shit and like it was very obvious to me this friendship would not have gotten started if they had met each other today right it's just because they knew each other since they were kids now this is on the part of this girl I'm not going to name her but like like give a hint there's a certain Dr. Sue's character whose name ends with I am so not going to like anything specific but so this girl she would definitely would fit as a worthless friend and like she definitely is bitchy and annoying but it's definitely not a an unprovocated act of social violence on her part because Nikki, my girlfriend is someone who will like be confrontational if she feels that there's a problem with something and sometimes I'm like you could be less confrontational but whatever and I am someone who can be just a dick you know and it was our relationship a ticking time bomb on their friendship right because Nikki just kind of started falling away from her friends in general by spending so much time and calls with me and so you can see how that goes right so you know and so the I am girl here is was the most incensed about it from what I can gather and eventually Nikki moved away from Oregon to come live with me instead so yeah she basically visited Nikki's hometown for like a couple days and I was hanging out with all of her friends because she really wanted to introduce me to all of them and it's like okay you know but obviously I don't make good first or millions of impressions on people by and large so a lot of them were weirded out wondering why she was into me you know whatever she literally Nikki could literally grabbed my phone at one point and just started adding some of so yeah you can see how this is sort of a powder keg to piss people off right so I don't want to be too accusatory here but basically we were in the car me and Nikki sitting in the back and this you know the girl in question I'll call her acorn head because that's where her hairstyle reminds me of sick she was driving I don't even think she was driving but I think it was her car it was her CD right or she was playing I remember watching a video by Todd in the shadows about how the song has like some of the worst lyrics possible like we really analyze it lol and then she put on this like rock cover of somebody I used to know and I just muttered to Nikki like oh yeah you know man when this song is sort of isolated from its interesting instrumentality the lyrics disconnects moment of oh right not everyone is on the internet constantly shit talking opinions all the time I like had to really brain search to remember what the fuck I said because I consider myself to if I'm not on the internet reading random strangers especially friends of someone important to me I'm going to keep myself pretty tight-lipped and indeed I did just subconsciously she also put on a mixtape of like early 2000s Disney pop songs and I didn't say shit I never really thought about this as a policy until I until I was faced with this issue with Acornhead but that that I could so is the result of this situation that I can fuck okay fine we'll talk about musical taste insulting policies in another episode the point is she was like what the fuck's wrong with your boyfriend right because she was like blowing off Nikki like through texts and Nikki was like ugh I'm so mad at Acornhead I want to tell her to f off and like you know you're there for her right just be nice she wants to tell her to f off that's some pretty strong language right there right yeah I don't know why I censored that anyway so so she was like hey what's up I don't know what's going on but let me know and then Acornhead was all like ugh your boyfriend's such a dick he always corrects people and I was like wait what and so apparently an instance of me correcting people was one of her friends was like things where like the camera was like out and it was like at an angle and I'm like isometric and she was like well it was like things were at an angle and I'm like isometric that was apparently really offensive I was trying to throttle my dickishness so hard but it's still enough if it came through well you know a lot of that is just if they have a certain impression of you already like it's a straw that breaks the camera's back sort of thing I already fucking represent a tension a new tension with their friends so I get it right exactly did you guys ever see that episode of Big Bang Theory when Sheldon goes to the dinner party unrelated question just asking but yeah so their friendship was over for like a couple of weeks even though like I went back to you know back to my zone and Nikki was left you know IRL friends with Acornhead and everyone else and so I was like well how are you gonna like not be friends with someone when you're in a densely connected web of friendship but cut to a few months later now Nikki lives with me so now it's all online friends with her right oh man we do something that really offends or really disappoints Acornhead so Nikki says we're gonna get a hamster cause like me and David are gonna live up in this room we're gonna get a hamster and it's gonna be so cool so David yeah I know right fuck is David I actually hear my real name more often than my user name once now David is the hamster obviously right it's the hamster David the hamster so so fucking she even had the idea like I'm gonna name the hamster donut that's specifically what I'm gonna call it she had like she basically had visualized exactly what this hamster was going to be before we even had it and Acornhead was like great hamster ideals all you gotta do is like once you get a job you save up some money you buy all that hamster equipment you buy yourself a hamster and Nikki was like yeah Acornhead I'm totally gonna do that but then you know Nikki's laying around like before I think yeah she was about to get a job actually it was just like a couple of weeks before she got called in I think she was about to get a job but like a few weeks before that whoops I fucked it up a bit it's a few weeks before oh my god we're going back weeks sorry fuck it's no big deal seriously it was just one little clarification right she fucking she was like I wanna get the hamster stuff now I'm like okay fine so I spent like a fair bit of money to get like a hamster cage and all the stuff and Nikki said hey she take my money yeah I'm in need so she said hey Acornhead I got all this hamster equipment snap a picture and Acornhead was like oh dot dot dot and Nikki was like what's going on huh what's up she's like oh nothing I'm like what and she's like are you mad at me Acorn's like no not mad just dot dot disappointed turns out of course the classic didn't believe that she got dramatic ellipses that your boyfriend is getting you a hamster before you got a job right oh man your boyfriend is like spoiling you in shit like she's in need of a hamster right dude now that we got the hamster hamsters are great I finally realize that there is a pet that is great cause you know even cats are kind of you know they're not zero maintenance hamsters are basically zero maintenance it's just like watching my every day now every day is Hamtaro time and it's wonderful hell yeah finally I have an animal I really like cause this is a donut hell yeah man hell yeah it was definitely worth it but like you know like giving her too much stuff and like you know again Nikki wouldn't let it go she'd be like no you shouldn't but but Acornhead was just like so offended that her life advice wasn't being taken so here's where we get to the worthless part of the friendship here is that Acornhead was so like it's just a couple years older right and she sees herself as very mature and like independent and was just incensed that Nikki was not quote following all of it you know and she was just like and I even told Acornhead like I gave her my own message like hey I mean I decided to give Nikki to Hamster because it would be a responsibility like you know she has to like feed it every day and she just needs something to do while she looks for a job she's really bored really depressed waiting for a job to show up I'm giving her some more stuff to do right and what she did was the classic internet technique of like pretending to wait she said just wait until five years from now when she's still not doing anything with her life and see if you still want to be with her and I was like Jesus that's I see where she's going with that that's pretty zero to 60 yeah this person's got an agenda yeah I fucking know right and so Nikki was so mad and then like you know like she was just browsing Facebook a few days later and she saw a comic that reminded her of Acornhead where it was like of like you know certain guys went this out of a relationship and like all the responses were like oh yeah fuck those guys and fuck those relationships and Nikki was like all these goddamn people telling me how to have my relationship you know like and so she so she posted a reply to that thing saying or you could just let people have their own fucking relationships and live their own goddamn lives by their own terms so she didn't want that to be on her post so she just out of context responded to something that wasn't there which was like the weirdest shit ever but it made Acornhead think it was directed completely at her cause you know she knows that there you go so Acornhead dude this is fascinating this is like the tale of the snarky Facebook post like the origin story this is like uh yeah Facebook post redemption yeah so like Nikki was all like that Facebook post wasn't directed at her it wasn't about her although emotionally it was about her you know but it wasn't directed at her she didn't at message Acornhead you know acornhead.twitter.com she did not message her but Acornhead was like incensed about it and wasn't talking to Nikki for a couple of days and she was like why is she like blowing me off and she was like getting mad like I'm gonna say F-U Acornhead and I was like Nikki Nikki Nikki calm down just be there for her just send her a message saying what's up right and she was like okay fine message could not be sent oh shit so after about 30 attempts to call her because I don't know maybe Nikki's a little bit clingy she finds out through the grapevine she has been Facebook blocked by Acornhead Esquire the second the worst sin you can commit in today's age what a fucking trap holy shit yeah so so now Nikki kind of goes like because Nikki has this sort of this really difficult relationship of not being able to respect Acornhead for being an older girl who's gotten more accomplishments and done more things with her life and acts like a know-it-all and therefore like attains some authority you know someone who Nikki has looked up to for a long period of time so it's hard to reconcile the fact that she's actually kind of a bitch dick so it kind of tears her up you're right and it was just like eventually Acornhead responded with yeah fuck you and your stupid messages you're not you're a terrible friend I'm not gonna be anymore I don't want to see any more of you you're dumb and I thought it was pretty interesting to see to see Acornhead after all of her like posturing of like how mature she is like taking her ball and going home just the amount of spite that was like spread on to me indirectly through Nikki is palpable in my soul this is a very recent thing that's why I'm going in through too many like unnecessary details is because it's hard and I haven't had as much time to filter it out and the last message to Nikki was yeah you know you think you can live without me but when it all comes crashing down you'll be sorry and I'm like Jesus and yeah that was that so that was a friend you know we talked specifically about worthlessness it's a friend who felt that they were more worthful than they are and couldn't deal with the fact that they're fucking life advice and you know this whole like hamster thing is at the tip of the iceberg sounds like someone completely when you don't need them like if you're no longer dependent on them yeah exactly exactly it was very it was pretty manipulative and controlling in that kind of way and she was just yeah she was just getting herself into the cycle of acting more immature because she wasn't being treated like the adult in the room you know and there's a lot of ways that you can be a worthless friend and a lot of ways you can approach this from so yeah that's interesting here for that perspective try and experiment with your own ways of being a worthless friend and let us know how it goes alright what's up mate yeah just quickly while Deva was talking I remembered like the friend from my last story she told her family like she was really good friends with her like cousins and stuff she told her cousins about me and during like one time while we were friends like we you know we had the on and off thing while we were friends like her cousin came to visit in the middle of like the neighborhood I was just walking home the cousin just kind of like pointed to me and shouted across the neighborhood like you cunt like whoa whoa like my cousin says like you're a terrible person and I was she poisoned I was stunned I was like I never I never talked to you you don't know anything about me she must have said really terrible things about me for you to go out of your way to bully me like we weren't like like the same age she was much older than me she was like did you say sorry yeah did you say you cunt in Lithuanian in Lithuanian she said something of equivalence I don't remember the exact words but I knew it was like a swear word it was like approximately say something like that in Lithuanian Maja can't believe you remember the English translation better than what was actually said in your own native tongue she's living it now first things first like Lithuanians don't have swear words all their swear words that we use are Polish or Russian or even English oh cool yeah so we don't have swear words in our language that's what I like a good clean language if we wanted to insult people we would use animal words like you know pig kurva rooster that's Polish and that's a swear word I know oh I know that was fascinating I heard kurva all the time kurva was the only what was like kurva was the big was the most was the big thing over there um a medican never at me um never from me because I'm a good boy of course you didn't do nothing never but yeah just like my point is like she should talk so badly about me to her like close relatives where I while we were friends I never should talked about her behind her back like only time I would complain about her to our common friend who knew how she was I wouldn't like you know poison new people to her like by you know just you know that was like that was such a shocker and I just remembered and like there was also other ways how she mistreated me but like this podcast is long enough for me to tell all the stories but yeah she was she was terrible hey what can you do man sounds like she really was after control friends are scary they can become enemies it's it's true it's a role in life I like how like everything never have friends everybody that's the message all the friends I had like in real life just sort of like pissed off from my life all at the same time when I was 16 or 17 interesting so they all left and you were the common element here I wonder if there's a I don't know come on I don't know fuck you alright let's find out the questions I like I like to believe I was meant for greater things interesting interesting that's what all sociopaths say okay we'll move on to the next so this is the part of the show where we take questions from fans at home on Twitter and on the private PCP discord for patrons only hooray that's right and if you patron you're more likely to get your questions seen because we got a whole bunch of Twitter ones it's a more exclusive club and for the first time ever the entire the entire PCP patron lounge came together with one big question that they want us to debate oh god they they've been having a debate about this all day they wanted to get our take on it that kind of chocolate dark chocolate normal chocolate oh I have a very specific answer I like how it's called normal chocolate not milk chocolate well sure that's true of course it's dark of course it's dark milk does anyone not think it's dark chocolate it's not dark chocolate it's dark chocolate it's dark chocolate milk chocolate no okay so let hang on okay so how many people in favor of dark chocolate I I what only two is it a genetic this is for milk chocolate now I I like white chocolate what white and a white what about DeVoo are we limited only to dark white and milk no no you've got another you can suggest it the kind that you get that are chocolate chips as a bag that are meant for baking those for some reason so baking that's semi that's semi sweet that's semi sweet and it's dark chocolate are they sweet dude I don't know what to tell you you can buy any kind of fucking Hershey's it's not going to taste it's going to get out of a bag that are meant for cooking it's like it's like this weird civilization where like everyone is doing the wrong thing and I'm the main character who like looked to the side of the shelf and like found this other different path that we use to the secret society where there's the fucking completely way superior in every fucking way chocolate that people put in chocolate chips you don't need to buy it in chip form you can get it just normal no it's not it is not the taste is like a Hershey's part his favorite flavor is a shape and it's dark chocolate I'm sure if you erased all memories of chocolate from me and you blindfolded me and had me eat a regular Hershey's bar I would be like hmm kind of tastes like I'm eating like a candle or something it kind of like it almost tastes like some sort of like weird like maybe chocolate that was like inside a can that was like sitting there for two weeks mixed with like a red candle or something maybe some bugs flew into it that's what I think when I eat like Hershey's bars or Hershey's kisses every kind of Hershey's thing but even Hershey's and if you just buy the bags of chocolate chips I'd see in my mom's jelly cupboard I open it up pour that into like just a little cup and just eat those like a snack while I'm 14 and don't have to worry about getting a fat belly of beer belly yet that was the only kind of chocolate that was really worth having and I'm just like why why is the world not like understanding this weird mistake we've all made we've all made this collective mistake fair enough if we can pick random shit as our favorite chocolate then peanut M&Ms okay now we're just poisoning the well here bringing in these candy coated shit you let the food do it you fuck he's talking about specific type of pure chocolate so much but the question is the question is white milk the question is white milk or dark well in white milk or dark all the way like I would rather like fucking eat like a celery stick than any kind of any kind of chocolate other than dark people who prefer dark chocolate are also like wearing a fedora and like smoking a pipe well I'm literally I'm literally doing both I'm literally doing one of those things right now I'm gonna do the other later today like I've been dark chocolate fans also like watch Rick and Morty every week and like do a podcast about it you're not wrong my I'll always have a place in my heart for cookies and cream Hershey bars that's not white chocolate that's not pure white chocolate that's a meme candy bar it's not it doesn't taste good yeah my mom will occasionally get this like hot pepper like dark chocolate which just has like spiciness to it which is kinda good but I gotta go with dark chocolate the answer is clear the consensus here is dark chocolate there you go I disagree facts are facts you disagree with the consensus in general I like fake chocolate like Atkins chocolate more than real chocolate like even more than like fucking chocolate chip chocolate cause it doesn't make me feel like I just ate a bunch of sugar because I didn't taste better that's why I like diet soda like it might be psychosomatic but I just feel better about myself after drinking a diet soda I got super into zero water it's all the taste fucking soda without feeling like I just I'm about to fucking pass out right but yeah like fake chocolate I even like the taste it's not just the feeling afterwards it's got this like powdery texture to it that it's just so much more even and smooth cause like chocolate chips yes they have an amazing taste but they're so fucking intense that they kind of put the sauce there so like cause like like chocolate chip cookies for instance I would say are not actually enjoyable to eat in the long run because there's some good as fuck are you talking about because there's someone ever let me finish my fucking sentence they always boo me before I can complete you do there's no new people here who boo you when you eat one you like it's like so good like now that you're done eating it's life sucks now so the only logical eating them, which will become a thing you can never eat. Are you? God damn it, are you? Stop gaslighting us on the definition of good. Are you actually here to argue that because that the chocolate chip cookies are so good that it's so sad to stop eating them, that it's not worth eating them in the first place? Well, look, but he loves eating dark chocolate, so it must taste like shit. I don't know what to fucking tell you. There are things I think taste even better than chocolate chip cookies, but they're just a certain kind of good that aren't the same problem. All right, I guess Davoo's making like the heroin arguments. Like, is heroin good? I mean, kind of, it's kind of good, but when your whole life is wrecked because you've reached to high a peak of euphoria. No, hold on, it's not just simply the level, it's not a fucking DBZ power level here. That's more of a complicated thing, right? Cause like for example, like on- My P-brain can understand this. Yes, yes, fucking like tortilla chips. I have the same issue with her because it's all about the fucking salt. The beginning of every tortilla chip is great. The end of every tortilla chip is all right. And so the only way to continue the feedback loop is to keep doing more chips, right? It's a clear science. Like, potato chips even fucking advertise themselves, it can't put them down. Like, that's kind of like weird abusive marketing right there, abusive products. Is that Skinnerbox? Right, yeah. It's like every time you get the fucking shiny thing. But like, obviously with chips, the logic in science is very clear. It's salt and then the salt gets absorbed and now you're dealing with a bunch of tasteless darts. I don't know how the science works with chocolate chip cookies. I don't understand why, but I could have something like say brownies with ice cream, which I think I would write above chocolate chip cookies as in terms of taste, but I feel more sad to find out. But please stop, I'm so hungry. Okay, well, you know what? You know what? I'd say dark chocolate chip cookies are better anyway. So the question is settled. Actually guys, I just realized I made a mistake. The question actually said dark people, milk people. Oh, no, we've been racist this whole time. What are the milk people? Wait, is that like gay people? Like the guy named the milk. It's the carthine, it's the carthine or the milk people. Wouldn't a milk person be a woman? Oh, shit, you're right. That's a good point. They're the cows of people. That's not, you're not wrong. Well, I guess I'm gonna maintain my same answer from before, which is that my favorite are the kinds, the really small ones, you get in a bag. Oh, DeVu. Ben and Nate have some jungle fever over here. Well, yeah, I guess we do. Yes, we do. Should we move on to the next question? I've got it right here lined up. All right, there you go. All right, here we go. New question, at Faye88son says or asks, are you with or with not, this is how they said, are you with or with not designer babies? Designer babies. What does that mean? What do you think, everybody? What? So a designer baby is the idea of being able to genetically engineer the type of baby you want and then you just, you know. I think I gotta be against, because lately I've been thinking about, lately I've been thinking about dog breeds and about how fucked up it is that we've fucked up dogs so much with genetic engineering and turn them into mutants. And I'm pretty sure it would be a bad idea to start down that route with humans as well. So I'm gonna go. Well, Ben, let me just play devil's advocate on the obvious points here, but wouldn't it be great though, Ben, if we just engineered everyone to not have any chance of cancer and have, I don't know, be tall and strong and muscly and not be a better resisted disease. I was thinking designer as in purely aesthetic. If we're talking about like disease resistance, then I'm gonna say, yeah, but like having a foreign amendment against aesthetics is just, here's a, like talking about ideology, sure, but let's go one layer down towards a little bit more of practicality as to like what platforms, no matter how noble, cannot possibly win. Here's the thing, like, because when Ben said it would be difficult to go to start down that direction, keyword I wanna emphasize is start. Similarly to like, say cyber augmentation and how some people say that it's kind of a stupid argument because we already augment ourselves with things that we wear or like put on our wrists. It's like the same thing. You are already putting into consideration the design of your children if you make any decisions about who you're going to mate with based on what you want your children to be. And if you choose to not drink alcohol during pregnancy, you are making an effect. It's just a very simple one. It's a very simple, obvious, not complicated, not morally gray yet series of decisions that you are making. And if the decision has become really complicated, every fucking forum argument is just gonna go back down to like, well, you already weren't drinking alcohol. So like the people who are against this are hypocritical. And I just don't think people are gonna be able to like, yeah, the people who are gonna stand against it just aren't gonna be able to win. Probably cause all the people who are for it are gonna be like a lot stronger than them and just kick their ass. I agree DeVoo that to say it's just bad on its face is overly simplistic for a lot of reasons. But like, I see that the biggest concern that I would have is through the, like, how good is the actual process? Like, are we saying in this example that we magically have the ability to just, you know, wizardly control whatever kind of way we want our kids to come out and there won't be any side effects? I'm thinking like that the real issue will be the actual like tangible effects of monkeying around with like a zygote's DNA and like trying to control it. But yeah, I'm sorry. That's your word. I know that's your people's word. First PewDiePie and now you. How can you do this to me? What I did want to say was that, so Star Trek totally sidestepped this question in what I would consider a fairly cowardly way. And it's that, so the way that Star Trek addressed the question of genetic engineering is, so even in the original Star Trek, everyone knows Khan, you know, the famous Khan guy. So he is a genetically engineered like super Ubermensch. And that's like, and it just made him like think that like, okay, I am superior to everyone. So I have carte blanche to just like rule the human race. And there were a lot of guys like him and you know, it caused a lot of bad things to happen because he had that mentality. But like, and so basically, and in deep space nine, there is another character who's also genetically enhanced, but basically the whole thing is like, he's okay. He happened to turn out okay, but there's a bunch of other genetically enhanced people who like got kind of fucked up during the process, which I think is interesting and probably more realistic to what will happen because, but the reason they got fucked up is because the practice has been completely outlawed to genetically engineer children throughout the galaxy. Exactly. And so like these people were fucked up because like they had like back room geneticists, like are the ones like, it's really similar to like a back room abortion that like can fuck up the mom and stuff. Like that's the idea here. And so like, of course in that process, things get messed up. A much better conceit would simply be that like, well we tried, but it turns out we can't make people that much better than we already can because DNA is more complicated than we thought, you know, like fucking, you know. They're trying to avoid the question of like, okay, but what if we really do just start making every baby like pretty much perfect as it can be. You see the ubermanches and like they can still get fucking, I'm actually like editing a fucking Hunter-Hunter thing. I'm watching the Merrim versus Nettro fight right now. That fucking ubermanch, well that didn't work out too well for him. But it probably would have worked out okay. I mean, okay, so like he was not a bad person. He just had a big ego because everyone, you know, fed it a lot and he had to kind of sort through it. But like he did develop human emotions and an appreciation for life. He probably wouldn't have lost if he was like more than like 15 days old and had like more life experience. Yeah, like the only reason he lost is because the, you know, people assumed he was going to be a huge problem for the world, which he may or may not have eventually been. You know, the ants did kill a lot of people, but you know, he didn't really have control of that from the start. He was brought into this system. So he himself, you know, maybe he would have fixed things and like, you know, they basically just assassinated him without finding out what he would eventually become. He was only like a couple days or like a couple months old at that point, you know? Yeah. God, I love this fucking discussion we just had. Like 20, like 2% of people are gonna be like, yeah, that's good points. 20% of people would be like, you fucking spoilers. And then the other people are like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's, okay. We don't need to get into that anymore. So does anyone have like a strong stance against it on any kind of moral level or is it all practical? No. Yeah, human life is there to be toyed with in my mind. Okay. I see a good question here, pretty heady one. Porous sale. Is it on the Twitter or for a man? Yeah, it's on Twitter. Porous Sailing God asks, what does humanity deserve more? Alien friendship by solving global warming for us or punishing us with death for causing it? Oh, wow. Well, okay. By killing us because we caused global warming that only hurts us, what's? I think what she's asking is does humanity deserve to be, should aliens step in and help us solve the issue or should they destroy us? Because we've caused this issue and we're too dangerous. I think the destroy thing is a silly point. I would not be on board with that. I would be surprised if I personally was ever a huge fan of a sci-fi thing where aliens did anything other than not give a single shit. There's like, you guys are still relying on the atmosphere of the rock you grew out of, plebs. Like why would they even give a shit? They're interdimensional travels. I hope people realize the moment that we have faster than light travel, fucking no one's gonna care about climates of planets. Well, you know, we'll need to fix it. Still gotta live on them. Yeah, you gotta, sorry, you could live in a ship, I guess, but whatever, people do better on planets. Yeah, no, I mean, I wouldn't really, I mean, it'd be nice if the aliens fixed it and then just like gave us the answers of these questions, but I think humans will sort it out eventually. I mean, I think we deserve the benefit of the doubt. What's her face from horror, he said? Yeah, I could influence the weather, but like if you influence it just slightly in an artificial way, it will basically cause apocalypse for hundreds of years. So now- Wait, Haru, Haru, he said that? Oh, right. The other, the alien girl from it, whether it's fucking Nagato. Oh, Yui, no, not Yui, Nagato, yeah, Yuki, that's right, that's right. Okay, the question of like, should we be wiped out for it? It's like, I feel like that attitude is coming from this like, because we have like committed this sin against the planets. Guys, the planet is a fucking rock. It's not alive. It has no personhood. It is not deserving of moral concern outside of, it is a habitat for, and I don't even care about animals. My standard of caring about something is if it has like an intelligence that is worth preserving. Some animals might qualify for that and definitely humans do. But like, I don't feel bad for the fucking planets or like wiping out bacteria. Every day you're fucking alive. You are murdering bacteria in your fucking gut. That's no different from like, burning down a fucking rainforest and just like letting all the trees die. All I care about is our environment. That's all I care about. Yeah, for our own sake. Yeah, I mean, not to like pile on and be too much of a dick, but hearing that question, it reminds me of like my parents and their friends being like, do you think that like America deserved to be destroyed by Satan for all of its sins at this point? I'm just like, okay, yeah, I gotcha. Oh, yes it does. I mean, yes, but, you know. All right, how about this one? Jade Murrow asks, how much do you value being a jack of all trades versus specializing in one craft? Oh, immensely. So, because I feel that the one field I have proven successful in videos would not have been able to be if not for having a very specific mixture of skills. Wait, let me finish the question. She goes on to say, I mean, most crafts take more than one skill to do. Right, yeah, exactly. That's true. It's all about the very specific mixture. Like you can have people with like mediocre to pretty good skills in certain things, but if combined just right, they make something great. And I would consider James Rolfe to be kind of in that camp. Like he's pretty good at writing, he's pretty good at directing, he's pretty good at editing, he's pretty good at analysis, and he's pretty good at filmmaking. I think he's kind of like a mediocre to decent filmmaker, but he would just happen to have the idea to combine filmmaking and narrative with video game review and created an all new genre that like revolutionized everything and happens to still do it better than most people. The single most important invention of the last 100 years was the induction of the video game nerd. Yeah, the angry video game nerd. Yeah, yeah, oh, absolutely. The greatest creation of the last 100 years, I would say, of course. You know, we're like Andrew Hussey taking pretty good art skills, great writing skills, great work ethic skills and creating something that's spec'd perfectly to his abilities and he made something amazing with it, right? So, yeah, like to do videos, to do videos like all around well, you got to be pretty good at analysis, you got to like understand writing, you got to understand like visual flow, you got to understand how to talk at least decently, you got to have the privilege to afford all the equipment and yeah, you got to have like a thin array of like a little bit of skills in many different fields and if you don't have all of them, you're fucked. That's true, that's true. Yeah, this question highlights to me why it's important not to like spend time like practicing to do a thing by doing other things and why the best practice for a thing is just to do it because like yeah, whether it's videos or comics or anything you're wanting to do, like yeah, it takes a set of skills to do a task well and the only way you're gonna like practice all of them in the proportions that you need to know them to get good at the particular thing is to do that thing because anything else is gonna be imbalanced, you know? Like if you're trying to draw a comic and you just do like figure drawing, like maybe you'll get good at drawing figures, but like drawing comics is, it involves more than that, it's all about framing, about dialogue and pacing. You want to be the best artist because there's a thousand best artists. So like if you want to be the best of something, come up with an all new combination that no one's even heard of. So I would say the best thing to do is specialize, well, well, hey, is anyone? I can hear it, I can hear it. Okay, Devoop, cut out. I think I can hear it. I would think the best thing that you should, you should specialize in one thing and you should be, and thereby become good at all the things needed to do that one thing, but yeah, I think overall, like specializing in one thing is the most important because like you're only, like that's what makes you stand out. You know, they say like do one thing and be the best at it. If you're doing all kinds of different things, you will never be the best at any of them and being the best is what it takes, you know? Being the best at what you specifically are doing is what it takes to, you know, stand out. Agreed, agreed. If you're doing, if you're mediocre at a bunch of different things, this is not the case. And when you say the best of a thing, a thing doesn't mean a whole medium. It can mean a whole genre. It can mean a very specific thing, you know? Like if you are, if you have the same amount of writing skills as a bunch of other people, but you happen to know a whole lot about fucking Hepatitis B, then you could make the biggest, best Hepatitis B novella series that anyone, that all the preteens are gonna go crazy for, right? That's exactly what I mean. Being the best at specifically the thing you're doing, like even if it's like something real narrow. Go on the internet, like here's my Hepatitis B fucking OC. Do not steal. It's Hepatitis B DCI. Yeah, and you know, like the small but dedicated Hepatitis B fan base will go wild for it. And that's what you want. And your mascot, the Hepatitis B, Buzz Buzz will, you know, be on the internet and take it by storm. It'll be great. Yeah. You're like, oh man, you sure are lame. What are you, a Hepatitis C fan, lull. We're better than those people. Hey, here's a question that's totally relevant to our podcast here from the Twitter at micoolman or mecoolman says, how do I make cool internet friends like you guys? And the great thing I like about this is it's not a question of like, how do I become your friend? This man is looking to cultivate his own circle of internet friends. And I have advice for that. I would say the best thing to do is just find a community and get engaged with it and identify the people who are investing their own energy and providing value to that group and, you know, contribute to it in whatever way you can, be it like a content creator or otherwise, and identify the people who are worth your time, hang out with them, just talk with them. It's inevitable that you get to know them because you're both there investing your time in the thing that you're doing. And yeah, I'd like my people to chill with them. The procrastinators could not have been formed in any other environment but broneism. The MLP fandom specifically facilitated a sort of hypothetical social structure of people running around sort of an ecosystem. And there was this one little area where a very specific type of cream rose to a very specific type of top where it was the brone analysis scene where it was like there's just enough autism flying around, just enough creativity, and just enough people who are lazy to create this giant field of people who are idiots and bad. But like there was just enough people who were actually good that they were definitely going to find one another and hit it off really well through this highly relatable place that they're both in. So yeah, that's the only way that the PCB could have been formed. Like everything with like the kind of art that we do all sort of being synchronized. We were sort of all on the same page for a period. I mean, I wasn't in it at the time but I was following it during the pony era and doing some pony stuff myself. Like we sort of all got synchronized. We all sort of like understood one another and sort of like, yeah, we started similar projects in similar ways for similar reasons and all imbued in ourselves the extremely categorical elitism over like the people around us because that was what the brony analysis community was where there was this just giant swath of people who were other shit to make you feel better and superior about yourself. And that's the attitude that we still have basically. There's such a stigma against feeling superior to people but when you look at the landscape and you see that you really just are superior. Well, if that's not the right time to feel superior when it is. Oh yeah, believe me. If you're doing an art specifically something that you're like, it's like a new project something you've never done before and you might be really insecure about it. You don't know if you're gonna do good. You know, obviously you need to like look up to those people who have done it better than you're ever gonna do as like inspiration and like motivation and like showing what you have to do to be successful. But when you're actually in the trenches working on it, chipping away at the project, it's perfectly fine to spend 90% of your time like dwelling over and over again about all the people who are worse than you'll ever be to tell yourself, no matter how much you fuck it up, you're not gonna be as bad as them. It's a beautiful thing. I see another question I wanna answer. Sure. From at underscore swagdude underscore, favorite black fictional character and I just was excited to see this question because I definitely have an answer and it is the guy with the afro in Cromartie High. He's like, I guess he's black. He's totally black. I mean, there's a lot of indicators but he's not like that dark skin, you know, he's really not. He's just fucking looking at him. He's definitely a black guy. And he's definitely what they're going for. Well, yeah, exactly. And he's great and the fact that he's great doesn't have anything to do with him being black but he happens to be. And I fucking love Cromartie High and he is my favorite dude from that show. I might be forgetting someone else right now but the one that I really think of is Princess Teata from Princess and the Frog. I legitimately love that character. I think she's fantastic and she's also hot as hell. So there you go. My favorite is Nino. I think the best black character is Bobobobobobobo from this anime called show title. It's called Bobobobobo. It's called Bobobobobo. I believe. If Bobobobobo is black, then this guy from Cromartie High is definitely because they basically look like the same. But Bobobobobobobo has a giant blonde afro. So that's like. This guy's got a giant regular afro. Oh, yeah. If he has an afro, he's fucking black. What is Nino talking about? I cannot believe you have not seen Cromartie High. You should absolutely watch it. It's one of my favorite shows of all time. Yeah. You would love it. Mage. What about you, Mage? Mage? I was thinking. I haven't watched much of videos lately. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. We've got a guy's love, Mage T. Is it Jamal from black to dot com? No. I never finished, but I should probably get on that. What's it called again, the show? Young Justice, There We Go. Aqualad, I think? Oh, Aqualad or whatever. Yeah, he was cool. I liked him. Wait, he can swim? I never liked him. That's shitty and not cool. But I'm sorry, I don't mean to undercut your choice. OK, other questions? No, no more fucking questions. Yeah, I was on for two hours. Fair enough. Oh, I want more. Now, we're done. We don't get paid more if we make the episode longer, DeVoo. DeVoo, if you want more, talk less during the episode. OK, so thanks for listening, everybody. Remember, send us more questions. Hashtag ask PCP. 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