 seven o'clock are you supposed to use it's seven it's seven o'clock okay well let's call this February 20th 2020 meeting of the Santa Cruz City Planning Commission to order could we have a roll call vote roll call please Commissioner Maxwell here Spellman here Dawson here Nielsen here Greenberg Conley yeah Chair Schifrin here Commissioner green Greenberg is absent with notification she's now feeling that well are there any statements of disqualification so they'll move on to oral communications this is the time on our agenda where anyone can speak on items that are not on our agenda but properly before the Commission for up to three minutes does anybody want to speak on oral communication seeing no one we will move to announcements are there any announcements seeing none we'll move to the approval of the minutes is there anybody who wants to comment on the minutes or make a motion to approve them and make a motion to approve the minutes for February 6th 2020 all second any discussion on the motion to approve the minutes all in favor say aye aye opposed to pass this unanimously there's tonight on the consent calendar we have two public hearings these are the consent agenda is a part of the agenda where all the items on the consent agenda get a made get approved in one motion unless somebody wants to pull an item off the consent agenda and then we would have a separate public hearing does anybody in the Commission want to pull either of the two items we have there anybody in the audience who would like to pull either of those items okay so normally what would happen is somebody make a motion just to approve the consent agenda but since these are public hearings I'm gonna open both public hearings to just make you know belt and suspenders does anybody want to speak to the either one of these items seeing no one I'm gonna close the public hearing and ask if some of you would like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda make a motion to approve the consent agenda or second discussion all in favor say aye aye opposed the consent agenda is approved so if you were here for the consent agenda items and both approved so there's no general business may ask is there any general business does not on the agenda are there any information items just that so some upcoming agenda items that we have on March 5th we potentially have the electrification ordinance we had the City Council last Tuesday reviewed some various options some may have affected the zoning code others not and it's looking like the option that they went with is likely not gonna affect the zoning code but we're still analyzing it we did pre-notice it so in the event that it's not gonna go before you there'll just be information on the agenda indicating that it's been dropped and then for March 19th we've got inclusionary housing ordinance updates and then also we're looking at scheduling potentially a referral from the City Council involving reconciliation of the general plan and the zoning code amendments so that would be that's not coming on the 5th we had that for the 19th yeah so if there's no electrification item on the 5th well we'll make sure the public is aware that it's not gonna be heard okay so are there any other information items anybody has subcommittee advisory body oral reports are there any oral reports I can read just report that the housing subcommittee has not met since the last meeting we have with some illnesses we have a meeting scheduled for I the 4th doing is the week after next so I'll have a report after that I'll give a very brief report I didn't at the last meeting of the technical advisory committee of two contracts that the city has one for the beach adaptation and one for the West Cliff adaptation I forget the official names there was a workshop that was held recently there's been a survey and they're gonna be there the consultants are kind of getting the point of trying to narrow down the various scenarios and options in the different zones along the cliffs and the beach and so they're gonna be more input on that I think in April okay items refer to future agendas I have two items I'd like to refer to the March 5th agenda one of them has to do with the sec the proposed section 8 amendment to the inclusionary ordinance I know that schedule for action on the 19th and I hope that it will be possible for the Commission to act on it on a 19th I think it would be given the the general interest in this issue I think it would be helpful to have a just a discussion of policy options not specific ordinances maybe the subcommittee will be ready to give a you know just an update on where they are other commissioners may have ideas about what they think should be in the ordinance and I just think it would be useful to have a discussion in front of the whole Commission on what kinds of policy options there are for the section 8 amendment to the ordinance so that when we get a specific ordinance recommendation from the subcommittee on the 19th it will be possible to act without having to delay it for further work you know I actually feel like that's premature we've been as a subcommittee that was appointed to take this on for deliberation and discussion we have started our work we've consulted with attorneys and begun to draft the draft that came back wasn't didn't quite hit the mark and I feel like the 5th is premature I'm very happy to give an update on the progress the committee has done but for the purposes of deliberation it would be my preference to wait until the committee has gotten further along with its work well I guess I'm feeling would be helpful to give input to the committee based on concerns that other commissioners might have because I mean the goal is to get the commission to make a recommendation on the 19th so I think having a pre-discussion of what the options are would be helpful I disagree but okay I just like to chime in and say I think it would be helpful at at sort of the high conceptual level not getting down into the ordinance language which is going to be more which is the task of the subcommittee as you said and you guys are starting to work through but sort of approaches at a high level conceptual level I think it would be really useful to have that discussion so across the commission we can kind of see where everyone is at and then I think we would have a better a better ability on the 19th to come together and take action on that item so that we're kind of all moving in the same direction and I think just an open discussion would be really helpful for me personally okay I don't think a motion is needed or is a motion needed to do it I think we're just adding an item to the discussion item for the March 5th agenda yeah I'm looking at the bylaws I'm looking at the bylaws and I couldn't find anything specific about bylaws I know I have been looking at the handbook advisory committee handbook as well as the bylaws and the chair has the ability to put items on the agenda so I mean my intention would be to put this on either just have it through this letting the whole commission know the intention to have this on the next agenda if there's you know if commission if there's a motion not to put it on the agenda we can put on that but with that absent that I just want to let everybody know that you know I just think it will be helpful to talk about some of the policy issues enforcement issues how how many section 8 units we're talking about how I think what are you expecting in terms of a preparation and a report are you just feeling are you just wanting everyone to voice opinions because you're not looking for a staff report you're not looking for me to burn the midnight oil report which seems blatantly unfair if the if the subcommittee has an interim report they want to make fine if they don't I still think it will be useful to hear what other commissioners have and just have a discussion of the policy issues and then that will be the goal is to sort of inform the sub committee of where other commissioners are coming from so that that can be taken into consideration however you take it into consideration I mean the brown act makes it impossible for us to talk among ourselves essentially in minority and so from my perspective this is a very important decision as big implications the 20% inclusionary was very controversial I think it's it would be worthwhile to have an opportunity for the whole to talk about some options before a recommendation comes before a staff to vote I am hoping that we can vote on the 19th and get a recommendation to the count anyway that's one item for future agenda for the next agenda for the March 5th agenda the other item I think we should talk about it's just our committees we have essentially we're we have one committee at this point a housing committee I'm also repeat I'm the commission representative on this act there I think it's it would be worthwhile to talk about the city is applied for and received a grant for objectives objective standards to pay for an objective standards consultant I think it'd be worthwhile to talk about the possible commission role in that process what doesn't make sense I've had a conversation with the planning director he feels that probably what will come out of that is should be attacked I think we should talk about whether it makes sense for the attack or a subcommittee of the of the commission and kind of decide what to do the other issue is the housing subcommittee unless I'd like to hear from the housing subcommittee about the larger work program what are the other issues that the subcommittee is going to be working on and just have a discussion about inclusionary is one but there've been other issues as well as one committee going to do it what's the timeline going to be I just think it's worth having a more detailed discussion of the work program so I would like to suggest that we have a discussion so we're not going to have anything else on the agenda next time potential electrification so unless the electrification comes up or something else comes up I think we can have some time to really set a talk about these issues and try to reach out other commissioners want to weigh in on that suggestion so hearing none it's a clear to staff that we're going to have these two items on the agenda and I think we can just put them on as information items I don't think since we're not going to have a staff report and you know commissioners can submit things on writing if they want but they don't have to and we can just have a discussion on those two items okay so if there's no other business can we have a motion to adjourn sure a motion to adjourn there a second second all in favor say aye aye opposed we are now adjourned