 What's coming across here about about him as a general like what what what is the the tone or what adjectives would you use to describe? How he's being portrayed alone Well, obviously there's no one else up there with him You just see Looking straight. He's in his own thoughts his own world The battling the elements the wind is going Horses tail is swept yet. He's going to stand for that's like he's determined to have Whatever he has in his mind fulfilled There's like three or four things we could dig into there I mean first in terms of him being alone look at how separate he is from the troops that he's leading I Mean he is you know first of all he's what is that 30 feet? Maybe more when he is physically separated from them. He's also 30 feet above them I mean he's he's away from them on this axis and also on the vertical axis In one side or the other in terms of his the way that they portrayed him in his dress like all these guys You know they look I mean these guys on both sides, you know, they don't look like they're wearing like summer What you know, they look bundled up like the weather is bad. I mean the mud again rain That going on too, I mean he the the adjectives that you guys threw out of it, you know resolute But he's lonely up there and he's not interacting with the soldiers Same type of weather But he's still somehow above it all literally above it, right? I mean he's he's kind of you know Figuratively above this but he's also literally above it and that there's a kind of sense of determination You know, he's got a he's got a fist on his on his hip You get this sense of you know how resolute people wanted to imagine him as this is a guy who understood that there was not a way to win the war except You know to do a lot of fighting and an incredible amount of dying and and you can kind of see the weight of that on his shoulders sort of famously internalize a lot of the Mean and you can come in I feel like you can see that you know his shoulders He seems kind of hunched forward. He's not postured the way you see Stonewall Jackson He seems kind of you know hunched forward Now remember they had 20 years to think about this They did not you know decide to raise the money for the statue on Monday And then you know throw it together on Thursday and commission it on Friday like there were there were 20 years of planning and You know artists models they work a lot in clay on miniature before they cast something in bronze There were all sorts of different potential ways to to portray Grant They didn't have to do it the way that they did it so we and and unlike Unlike other kinds of historical texts your house and say sure you can change that. It's not written in stone Well, this is written in stone and cast another yeah, Brian Straightening me is he's also surrounded by four lines. Yeah, and typically what is a lion known as the king of the jungle? beers, yeah, I Think that's that's Well, and then there's something else we haven't talked about there's the sort of relief that's on the pedestal Can you guys make out on both sides? Cavalry again. Yeah, there's one and then infantry on this side. I mean the soldiers are present They're there and And again, that's a little more of a realistic depiction of the soldiers thinking about both sides with relief They could put they relieve any of it but look where they put it and What is the relief supporting? Grant so the the undermining message is his men supported and his decision Making on that horse right now. I mean you notice like it's it's it's got this kind of realism That I think is really unprecedented particularly for the time and it's still pretty rare, but you know I was at Brian pointed out the lions. There's the kind of marble pedestal. I mean, it's not It's not the Korean Memorial where you can actually walk around the figures It still has these nods to more traditional classical form, but it also incorporates this stuff That's new and I think that makes it just so complicated and so interesting that There's a series of choices here, and I think they tell us something about You know where the nation was at the close of the 19th century in remembering this war and figuring out where it fit into our national narrative