 here's here's an experience that I had where I knew kitty cats understood salvia that would arm the realm anyway there was a time for a year to two years I had ads out in papers and flyers out all over Vancouver offering people to introduce them to salvia de venora I had a traveling salvia de venora pack with leaf extract 5 10 maybe 15 times as well and a traveling bomb right I had a pager this is back in 2000 2001 2001 2002 maybe 2003 2 but I think I stopped at the end of 2002 had a pager right they banned that as well of course of course phony and I left my pager number on there and flyers out everywhere right and add in common if you're in Vancouver common ground magazine I took an ad out salvia de venora journey shamanistic plan for a walk on Mexico if you want to have an experience give me a call and people called me and I would go to people's homes open up the suit open up the like a traveling suitcase not suitcase but traveling it was a it was a seat it was a what do you call it a cassette tape suitcase emptied out and put foam in there and had salvia de venora in there right beautiful dear love you from it a lots of love right back to Italy I've been there I love it lots of lots of Italian friends two hours and six minutes we're going to 230 at least at least and people called me up this one time this person called me up so I went went and met them at a cafe right we had a little talk and then we went to his house right and this was in the West end in Vancouver lots of gays there he was he was full on gay right then I have a great gay darm okay for me that I get along with everyone I get along with everyone I don't give a rat's ass man as long as you believe in freedom you're my brother or sister right and he realized I was a good guy thank you very much for the follow I can't even pronounce your name the Edo Edo salute right salvia shaman canonical this might be it so I opened up the suitcase and the guy talked with me a little bit and he was willing to go on a journey to try this out and it was amazing to me right because they didn't know me people didn't know me right I didn't know them but I was I can gauge people pretty well but they didn't know me and people opened their doors to me and they were willing to go on a serious journey with me right my pleasure Edo and I opened up this this briefcase I had with salvia the one arm I said listen I asked people questions right if they're very toxic then you would need the extract to be able to cross into the realm but this guy wasn't toxic it was very natural horrible I could tell that he didn't need extract right so I set up the bomb and I loaded him up with salvia the one arm leaf and contrary to what you might read I don't know what's around now but at that time people like don't smoke the leaf you need extract to cross into the realm bullshit bullshit bullshit right so I loaded him up with the leaf right and he sat on his couch and I sat on the chair now one thing I learned how to do was basically I was able to make myself my energy dissipate disappear right basically I tried to become invisible when people were going under when they were experiencing salvia when I was introducing them to salvia because I didn't want my energy to interfere with them right because it could be extremely serious so you have me too well I got stressful few weeks me too killing a thirty three hundred dollar computer and I'm to build a bookshelf setting up a new computer it was a lot of work so I set this guy up on his couch right I sat beside I want to chair I set up the bomb loaded him up with leaf right and you need a torch lighter I had this torch lighter not this brand anyway right because salvia burns heavy hot and gave him one bowl right I told him to take it all in he felt a little bit I said okay you need to hit it again loaded up one bore leaf lit up the bowl for him and I told him take it all in and you're gonna take in as much as you can your lungs are gonna burn right you're gonna have the desire to cough do not cough let let the smoke let that sensation of the burning that desire to cough dissipate hold the smoke it will dissipate it will disappear that that that desire to cough because coughing is gonna hurt you right so the guy did it he hit the bong took the bowl down lifted up did the exhaust took it in you could see him wanted to cough he didn't cough and then you could see the realm the freight train coming right and what I did was I just quietly sat back and put my head down I didn't even look at him right I could see him on my periphery he had relaxed and all of a sudden he sunk into the couch and one thing salvia does when you cross into the realm you sweat like fucking mad right and I could see him on the periphery I wasn't looking at him totally start sweating like sweating I knew he was having extremely extremely serious journey intense right in fucking tense right and then from it was an apartment right we were sitting in a living room from the hallway a little kitty cat cat came over looked at me I looked at him and the kitty cat went came and sat about five meters away from me and then within a second he got up and walked towards me and I put down my hand and I let him smell me right and he smelled me rubbed against my hand and stuff right and then he walked to the balcony and when it sat in a balcony the guy who was having this journey he just started laughing and that's one thing salvia does you can you can laugh you might start laughing like you've never ever laughed before in your life right he just started laughing and laughing and he was sweating like sweating like I've never seen anyone sweat this hard before not in the gym not doing ten miles thing like nothing his shirt was soaked he was sweat coming down his his forehead is cheesy just started laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing and I started laughing with him because it's very intoxicating and very contagious right and he did this for five minutes or so five ten minutes and then he's like he said a few things and then after about five ten minutes he came out of the peak he came down right salvia germany last anywhere between five to fifteen minutes max right so about ten minutes he came not came out but the journey dissipated right to a level where he could talk and he just came out of it he's like oh my god he was breathing he couldn't he was like I can't believe I'm like smoking and stuff and then later on when you could make sentences he turned to me and said my kitty cat hates everyone my kitty cat hates everyone and what happened to him was when the freight train had come and he crossed into the route he got extremely nervous as you would fear kicks in if it's your first time you're scared shitless like literally I was right he was so scared he was so scared and he didn't know who he was he didn't know who I was what the hell am I do was this person doing why is he smoking something like this that he's completely incapacitated like I could have done anything I wanted to right so he was very scared but then his kitty cat that hates everyone came over to me and said I'm okay I'm okay and then walked to the balcony and just chilled there and as soon as the kitty cat did that I put out my hand he was like oh man everything's good and that's when he started laughing that's when he started laughing and he told me this and I've had other experiences with kitty cats and salvia divinorum and kitty cats understand the realm of salvia divinorum doggos dogs do not do not understand salvia divinorum from my experience okay so it was extremely beautiful and this person had a profound moment he was like wow wow wow right it was very very powerful moment for both of us really for both of us so it was an amazing journey it was an amazing journey life gives you put in situations that you didn't expect and as long as you're able to let go of the fear and deal with the fear as doon frank Herbert says fear is the mind killer right and he didn't allow the fear to annihilate him right and his kitty cat was his vessel to allow him to understand that so it was beautiful it was a beautiful moment one of the most beautiful moments in my life really and in his as well and in the kitty cats