 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DiStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews In this episode of Mind Pump for the first 21 minutes me, Adam, and Justin Have some lovely conversation. We talk about James Brown, the sexiest man of all time We talk about the true story behind the inspiration to the movie Rocky by the way Rocky one of the greatest love stories Ever told you say that you forget that Adam We talk about the local cast of characters that live and walk around the mind pump studio They inspire me every day in San Jose. There's some characters around here. They're pretty great We also talk about wearing the same thing every day It seems like brilliant people like Dr. Dre, Mark Zuckerberg, Armani, Steve Jobs, and Sal DiStefano like to do this Then I mentioned FourSigmatic, Raiishi, and Chaga Somebody asked us a question in this episode about feeling overwhelmed and I do reference those products You can get them at FourSigmatic. That's F-O-U-R-S-I-G-M-A-T-I-C dot com forward slash mind pump and if you enter the code mind pump you get 15% off and then we get into the questions the first question was What are some of our favorite strategies for dealing with being or feeling? Overwhelmed that's a crappy feeling then we talk about what the effects of digestive enzymes have on protein absorption and Muscle gain should you supplement with digestive enzymes or should you just chew your food like an adult? Then we talk about whether or not we believe Resistance training is sufficient to provide you with all of the endurance training you needs you would get from cardio Like do you even need to do cardio or is that enough then the final question? What advice would we give to a very busy college student who just can't seem to find the time to work out and eat? Right. She's too busy with social media. It's so dick. You can't say that. That's what we think And finally this month our promotion is massive Pretty much enroll in anything. You'll get something for free in this episode. We talk about maps anywhere This is our maps program. That's programmed out expertly without any exercise equipment so you can do the whole Program without touching a dumbbell or a barbell And believe me you can make this work out very hard with our patent pending Amps sessions that we put in them. It's a great work out enrolling that you'll get maps prime for free In fact, if you enroll in any maps program, you'll get maps prime for free But if you enroll in the super bundle, which is one years worth of exercise programming We'll give you prime pro for free again Pretty much enroll in any program and you'll get something for free this month only Find out about all of it at mind pump media calm I want to get us pumped up real quick. Hold on. All right, another another good song Damn it Everybody's easily easily easily the sexiest man ever Ever I'm not even look I'm not even into that kind of shit, but I'll tell you what this dude this dude love walks into a room and Women just it's just orgasms. Just yeah, just everything comes off. That is just some testosterone right there They don't make anybody like that anymore. I did. Yeah, I love I saw like one of his last concerts, too Did you really? Yeah, it was up at the Did you really man? Tavo? Yeah, he just did this like Man, when was you saw him at Montavio, too? Yeah Montavos super intimate. It was it was so rad They did the whole thing with you know taking his cape off Dancing and it was fucking. Do you know how I got introduced to James Brown? Hmm Watching Rocky for that's the first time a kid. Oh, yeah, and I watched Rocky for where he fights the Russian I think that's the first time I got and and there's that scene right where it's the Russian who's fighting What's his name Apollo Apollo creed? Yeah, and Apollo's retired coming back comes down It's an exhibition exhibition fight and frickin James Brown is singing You know you guys have you tell me you guys have seen the net please one of my family Tell me you have seen the Netflix series or a show on who the real Rocky is. Oh Well, I know who the real rock is, but I didn't see the show. Oh my god the Brockton bleeder Dude, you need all about that story. You need to why it's the story that motivated It's a Netflix documentary fuck off. What's it called you need to oh god I gotta look this up now man. I got we Katrina and I will arch it. What a compelling watching it today So we have to watch it today. You have to watch the broncton bleeder was his nickname What do you tell me what you know because I want to know so I can't okay for whatever Rocky Marshawn No, so I can't I'll remember his name in a second. It'll come up to me, but he Muhammad Ali I want to watch it with you fought this guy and it was an exhibition fight so it was for fun or whatever and This guy comes out and I don't remember what round it was in the second round or one of the early rounds He just catches Ali with a punch and knocks him on the ground So after that Ali was like I'm gonna punish this mom I'm gonna put him out like this guy trying to embarrass me Yeah, and he proceeds to put a beating down on this man for fucking like 12 rounds like beats his ass Yeah, but this guy won't go down. Yes, he just takes it takes the beating with the distance and the whole crowd is just falling in love with this guy who's taking this beating and Muhammad Ali afterwards when they interviewed him He's like I have never put a beating on a man like I put on that guy and he would not go down and he earned everybody's respect Sylvester Stallone watch that fight And turned and it that is what inspired the story for Rocky, which by the way, you know, that's awesome Great story. So Vesta Stallone poor has to sell his dog Because he has no money literally sells but kiss his dog and Rocky that was his actual dog sells his dog and Puts newspapers up on his windows in his little shitty apartment locks himself in there And I think for three days didn't do anything, but right Rocky and then he finished it And then of course he goes and sells tries to sell the script But the he had to he made he said if you buy the script I have to play Rocky and everybody said no fuck you. Yeah, but they offered him like I don't remember like $300,000 like a tremendous amount of money and he said no I have to be so he's stuck to his guns The rest assisted all it's a great story all the way around great story Well, they get into that and they kind of tell it from a different angle right there But oh my god, you got a lot. I'm trying to find the name right now It was the Bronx in brawler, right? Is that what it was? No the bleeder bleeder They call them the bleeder because every fight he got into his gift. Oh, but he wouldn't yeah He wouldn't get so it was it was the Bronxton bleeder something like that broncton or block brockton bronxton Isn't that what it's that's where he's at bronxton, right? And then that I don't know what his name was the bro God, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. You're closer. I know you're close something like that, right? I'm gonna find it man. I you know it will get it in the show notes So I will I will cuz I'm finding it right now cuz Chuck Wepner. Yes Chuck Wepner That's the guy now look at the net 1975 was the fight And he fell seconds short of the 15 rounds He went almost 15 rounds with the one of the greatest boxers of all time Okay, give me a spell his last name W E P and ER P and ER. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna find it right now Fucking great story, dude. I recommend People read up like on that on that whole story of how Rocky was no watch You know, you have to read just go right watch the series is done so well The series is done so well it will break your heart though. Mm-hmm. You'll break your frickin heart Yeah, I don't remember what is the oh no, sorry the Bayon bleeder The break Bayon bleeder Bayon bleeder. Yeah, baby a y o and an e bleeder. I'll be watching. How fucked up is that? That's your nickname. Yeah, and in this corner so tough iron Mike Tyson and in this corner You know Yeah Smith, you know, yeah, it's knocked out easily the eye-oosers Glass jaw Joe So you guys want to hear some some science It's fun, you'll see so trip off this when you guys eat asparagus Which I know you guys do because it's good smell it in your pee because it's good for you. It's got fiber. It's green Uh adam likes it because it's in the shape of a penis kind of you like those phallic symbols What happens right after when you go urinate smells you smell it, right? So trip off this I thought now some people They don't smell the you know, they don't have that smell And I thought it was because genetically speaking some people just don't produce chemistry They don't produce the whatever the chemical that probably pairs with that that makes it smell that and the smell I believe the name of the thing monion kind of smell. No, it's actually called like a sparrig gosalus Or something named after sparrig is it's some compound that makes your pee smell But so here's what trip me out. It's not just that they think that there may be a genetic variant Where people their pee still smells they just can't smell it So it's not that their pee doesn't smell just don't smell is that they maybe can't smell it There was actually a study Oh a backup here. So you mean to tell me that there it's actually a little bit of a debate I've been reading up on this because I was at a party so that the idea is that your pee smells all the time But because you had the asparagus something in the asparagus allows you to smell it now. No, no, no, no Everybody's people can't smell that it smells. Yeah, so so whatever's in your pee that makes it. Oh in other words Everybody's pee smells everybody knows it's but some people don't some people just can't smell it And then there's another theory and they've done studies on this, which is funny That some people's pee may be not smell. Why does that require a study? I feel like all I need is someone like you to deny that your pee doesn't smell asparagus and then I come smell your pee when you're No, you're wrong. No, you're wrong Study science over. Yeah. Does your guys's pee smell when you eat asparagus? Yes. Yeah, everybody I haven't met anybody who's pee doesn't smell I feel like this same study could apply to these people with bad breath that like like talk to you and they don't Realize it and you're like listen you fucking stink. I can't can you ever smell your own breath though? Yes. Yes, sometimes You can smell your own breath. I can taste you ever To your hands doesn't work. Oh my god. It works. Does it really? Yes Because then you smell you just smell your hand check yourself What if you wash your hands it smells like, uh, you know Smell your hand you're just used to your own brand smell your hand first make sure it doesn't smell like shit and then Because if your hand smells like dog shit, and then you blow in your hand You will smell don't tell them people their hand smells and I smack them Yeah, because it's like right here. You're just a mean Just a child dude. You're a fucking child. He's a big bully. Yeah all the time. I can't help it Who does that? Uh, well you're kind of a bully too. You're not as bad as Justin. You're like different levels of bullying I'm not a bully. I say what's on my mind. You you yanking me with the band until I fell That was funny is a uh, it says you are a bully. That was real funny. It was actually hilarious I think I gotta ask and then that night I lit a couple like voodoo calendar Candles, excuse me to get some karma to come back and then it's weird that you fell off the the ladder the other day Wow, I feel like I know I keep saying that he's gonna think I pushed him off Do you see uh, taylor starting to make a series on the mind pump media? Instagram of like the people that come in and do their makeup and stuff on the the mirror windows Oh, yeah, because a lot a lot of times when he's working people coming over and Somebody did you see the one he did yesterday? I'm waiting for someone to like Scratch their junk or something in front of because we have the listeners don't know our facility our media facility Is on it's like a storefront on a very busy Part of San Jose and we didn't plan it that way because we're not a public. We don't there's nobody's coming in off the streets To come into our business. It's all just for media. That's the reason why we put mirror tent windows And so but with the space was perfect So we're like fuck it. Let's get it and then we put mirror tint because we don't want people to know that We're here. Yeah, I mean people like picking their nose and scratching themselves and doing all kinds of weird stuff It's like come on. You know Have you guys seen the we have like there's like Characters that I see every single day that are around here. Yeah, so I'll name one. Let's see if you guys can name some others Okay, there's the old dude that rides his bike With the worst posture I've ever seen in my entire life. Have you seen him? Yeah, you haven't seen him He's he's like ready to like snap in half. He's so bent over. He's He's at least I'm not exaggerating 175 years old. He's super old That's what his posture says super old. He's right now. He's probably closer to like 90 He's very old guys. So, you know kudos to him for being active He rides a bike back and forth at least twice every day and he's extremely hunched over On his bike and he just he just cruises by at a decent speed Then there's my favorite, which is the homeless guy with our zero fuck shirt He found in the trash Just love it so much It's just like it's so appropriate. You know what I mean? He's just like walking around zero fucks He's actually wearing a mic pump. Yes. Where'd he get it? Yeah, he like we threw out a bunch of shit Did we yes like oh no trying to clean the closet and so I think he just like found it in the dumpster Oh, that's how he got it. I was wondering. I thought maybe that's my theory I thought maybe goodwill or something like that. I mean come on. It's a shirt We've had around for a couple years someone could have I've done a couple goodwill runs already I'm sure there's some zero fuck shirts in there. Maybe, you know, but like more than likely I think he went to our dumpster because he's local. Oh that makes way more sense now Is he the same guy that chills on the on the lawn over at the church? Maybe they man when we went over there to shoot a couple videos for axon and members They got so mad at me like I was like the homeless interrupting their like environment, you know Yeah, they got like really mad. They've got it's it's actually I almost got I told you guys a story I almost got in a freaking rumble and when I say rumble I mean, yeah, like there was one homeless dude that I had to take his boxed wine to get him to move because he was We're not he was like sitting on your backpack, right? Yeah on our backs But then he like he like went and called the the artillery like he like all of a sudden he comes back And his homies come by there's a good like seven homeless dudes and I didn't feel threatened because they're all, you know, you know, obviously they're all But yeah, they you know You don't want to tussle with a no, you know, I mean, you know, we were we were debating who's more for anybody You or I and I feel like You just stepped up you've been in a fight or almost in a fight with two homeless people I've never fought any homeless people bro. That's fucked up. I know I didn't get in a fight But I had to I mean I think that pushes you over as the big I wasn't picking a fight Dude, I was literally defending fights a homeless guy. I'm giving them shirts. You know, I mean, yeah, zero fucks Yeah, anybody else you guys recognize from the neighborhood that you see I just see uh lots of uh crossfitters running around in circles carrying stuff over their head with Tall socks. Yeah That's a lot of that Those are the ones that come and do their makeup and the hair stuff like this guy Oh, because there's a salon up on above us. Oh, that makes more sense now. Yeah, I forget that We have enough there's he's real, you know making sure like every little detail on his face is the The feminine Asian guy a bit. Yeah, that's okay. There's a regular guy. There's like this regular. I haven't seen him There's a Asian guy that's probably in his early 20s and he has really takes care of himself. He's got Feminine mannerisms and he checks his hair and his face every day in there in our mirror in our windows Yeah, oh, shit. I haven't seen him. Yeah, he's one of my favorites because he gets really expressed We've got a very eclectic neighborhood because then you've got down the street the new the restaurant that we go all the time luna Uh, they're great. They've got their the regular characters then the owner over there very very pretty older woman Um, she might be might be in love with her. I don't know. Might be trying to talk to our Our marketing dude might, you know, have a thing. We could totally put him on blast because he never listens I don't hear a lot. Hey Taylor, that's what you get for not fucking listening to him. Hey, bro, you want to be part of this company, huh? I'll just let me just a let me just give you some advice, bro. She'll wreck you You be careful. She's got to pull that long wisdom on you and then there's grabbing by his man, bud She'll grab you by your dragon by the man bun Drag him across the floor after she's done. Give him a little bottle Yeah Braided did you see the picture that Justin did of taylor because I I told him I when he was shooting What a couple days ago He had that he had a big beanie on and he had the he had the capri pants on with the then the white Kind of sure. Yeah, like just her hains plain white shirt or whatever super hollywood guy Yeah, I was like, oh god. Look at look at our artistic. He looks today Get a picture of just take a picture of him and then he put him holding a Bro, you should connect super impose the most perfect little like it looks like he was holding it Yeah, I bet you most people thought he was holding that He's holding it. You need to connect him with your your boy. Uh, walling the two of them could trade fashion Right Secrets the marriage made in heaven right there. You can start wearing it You wear some skirts and some you know other bullshit. That's a thing. I guess, huh? Or is it just walling that Where it's not a thing. It's not just a good thing. It's definitely not a thing Well, what is the thing is we are we are as in the three of us are out of style and everything We are out of style. Yeah, I'm in classic style mode hits the the fucking first t-shirt zero fucks So yeah, so what I'm doing now is I'm trying to I have a new I have a new style strategy. Hmm I'm gonna show my god. I want to hear this. Yes, please. Well, let me Let me tell you guys I can't wait. All right. First of all, I'm fit and healthy So I plan on living at least till 80. Hopefully I can live till 80 I'm gonna wear the same shit until then at some point It's gonna be in style. So there will be a period of time when I'm in style. There is a good chance. That's my gamble There's a good chance of that. It would suck if it never goes in your direction. You know, Matt I'll be when I'm 80 and yeah, but the problem is this never was like you guys like you what ends up happening as you get older Your memory, right? You sort of get these gaps where then you start blending something that was cool in the 80s Something that was cool in the 90s and then you're so you're all over the place Yeah, your shit might come around but only half your outfits put together because it's like, okay Well, it still has to be organized to that one style and you don't even have that. Yes It's like this you're you look like you the the 80s the 80s raped the 90s and then shit out the 2000s Like that's great and shit like we put that together. It wasn't even consensual It's horrible. Yeah, there's like well, I think so when I watch nightmare when I watch that series, uh The the fuck I can't remember the name but with the one with dr. Dre on netflix the uh, I'm touching one defiant ones Thank you Did you guys know dr. Dre? Well, you watched it dr. Ray. He wears the same thing every day Same shirt. I mean he wears the same shoes, but no, no, okay, but said on it. Hold on. Hold on He said on the fucking documentary. Okay. I wear the same thing every day. That's what I'm gonna do I want to like for the most part. I'm gonna get it. That's all I want to do I want to wear one fucking same pair jeans that look cool But I'll own like 15 of them same shirt same shoes looks cool Just wear them every fucking day don't have to worry about anything And you know what that's gonna work if you're dr. Dre or if you're steve jobs. Well, and it can work Oh, yeah, steve job. Okay. It's all these smart people and it can do don't let him fool you either now If you looked at his shoes his socks the pants he's wearing the belt He's got with it like that he's got the whole ensemble though Don't just because it's all black did out. So go ahead bro Be it's easy to pick all one color you can do that, but he's still in style To let it fool you there's still thought put into the suit the shoes the socks the jeans Like I guarantee don't think for a second the fucking first million I make I'm literally gonna I'm gonna hire a stylist and be like I want one outfit your wardrobe is gonna be all the same That I can wear all I guarantee that that imagine that if you wake up that black t-shirt that black t-shirt pants shoes that get up He's wearing I guarantee from everything from his his risk game his shirt That's a 20,000 to $40,000 ensemble. Yeah between the clothes the watch every is all his whole ensemble is 20 So there's nothing simple about that all black outfit. I'm off for that Yeah, you just got to figure out what that it like that one like super power You know what you do is right? You know you haven't figured it out yet. God. There's all these look I just googled it and it's like Here's an article the men powerful enough to wear the same thing every day see It's that ice cube wears the same fucking thing every day Mark Zuckerberg wears the same shit every day come on come on Zuckerberg You're gonna try to look like our money wears the same thing every day Wow, I'm I'm reading the list of people probably cost like 50 grand. What's it look like though? I don't give a fuck what it is the same thing. Well, if it's all in style, you have to give a fuck what it looks like Okay, here's what he wears. Here's what our money Is anybody gonna argue with me right now that our money doesn't know what the fuck he's doing anybody That's what I thought navy blue silk t-shirt cashmere sweater I don't give a fuck bro. Hold on navy blue drawstring pants and white sneakers. That's it. Yeah, that's it every day Every day that's how I'm gonna go swimming in that. I'm gonna hire a stylist to do one All brought to you by our money. Yeah, that's gonna be it's like half branding here I kind of do wear the same thing every day though. Let's be honest. I'm almost there Close I'm halfway there. Yeah, I think you look sharp. Thank you. I appreciate it. I think you look sharp Thank you. Doug bring on the sharp bird, please This clause brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20 off at checkout All right, our first question is from larry jansen What are your favorite strategies for dealing with being overwhelmed to both physically and in business life? I'm overwhelmed like you're taking too much on you just feel like there's just too much shit going on You know, what's funny about this is every single time I've been in a situation like this because it's happened to me in quite a bit in the you know recent past because I've dealt with um, a divorce moving to a new place, organizing Kid schedule building a business and it's just like you feel like you can't just too much shit I can't handle everything and then what happens is you feel like shutting down like I'm just not doing anything And uh, this sounds very simple, but no joke. It's it works. You just start writing a list It's actually sound stupid and I was super reluctant to do it because it sounds so simple But when I did it when I wrote a list out of the important things I need to do And then just went down the list check by check you get a feeling of like relaxation almost because that's all it is simplified Yeah, the feeling of being overwhelmed Many times just comes from the sense of being unorganized It's not necessarily that there's yes, you have a lot to do But the fact that you don't know what to do first and how to do it Is what gives you that overwhelm well, I think you guys also brought up Minimalist the minimalism like kind of documentary a long time ago And uh, me and my wife actually watched that a couple weeks ago And it really did sort of resonate and like strike a chord with me as far as like Just the organization of my house the organization of my clothes You know the the the certain things that I'm into and and then really trying to hone in On you know, what what its purpose is and in my everyday process because if there's too many things and I just even I even visually if I'm seeing too many things that are Bring this kind of like chaotic Feeling You know why why like why not just get rid of it? You know just simplify simplify everything and then once I started doing that because I mean I was doing You know, I was trying to launch this product I was trying you know Trying to do all this stuff for for mine pumping the business and and then you know The kids and schedule and in soccer and like taking all these things on And it's just like man. Yeah, you can you just feel that you feel all that just just slowly creep up creep up And and so yeah, just taking massive action to um, you know simplify things and prioritize things for sure I uh, I smoke a joint and go to the movies. There you go So and you know best advice. He had a method. Well, let's let's unpack that right? I think you're I think you're both Right, I think that uh, the feeling of being overwhelmed most times is just your perception, right? It's that you've got so much on your mind or you've got this huge project that just feels Overwhelming and that's that's your perception of it. Is it really is at the end of life? Is it a big and so so state change you laugh and you say that but I'm dead serious Like this is a something that happens in my life on a fairly regular basis So I'm not smoking getting high and going to the movies every day obviously Uh, but I mean a true feeling of overwhelm which 100 I can relate to this feeling And I think everybody in this room has felt that before if you're a grinder go getter Like somebody who's after doing a lot on in your life Like it's it's inevitable. This feeling will probably happen But when it does I I know that that's because I'm so attached to whatever it is that I'm hyper focused on That's causing this feeling of being overwhelmed And so literally I'll be overwhelmed with work. I'll have all this stress that's going on if I get it If it gets to that point where I actually think it's overwhelming and I feel that which is Rare but does happen. Uh, I would say probably Four to six times a year for me and when that happens I literally stop in my day. It could be a Tuesday at noon and I will literally stop working stop Whatever is making me feel overwhelmed. I'll go smoke a joint. I'll go watch a movie all by myself at the theater And what that is if you unpack it and you really think about why that's like magical for me Is it it allows me to detach from this thing that Is causing this or making me feel overwhelmed and it gives me a new perspective on things And I love to watch the movie so maybe it's not a movie for you And maybe you don't smoke weed so don't I'm not advocating smoking weed those two things allow me to detach from everything else I like to be entertained by something that doesn't make me have to think all time where I'm constantly reading I'm constantly watching documentaries. I'm constantly doing business stuff. I'm I'm constantly grinding and working So watching a mindless comedy or a movie that doesn't make my brain turn a million miles an hour Causes me to really detach from that and it gives me perspective on other things And I and I normally walk out of the movie laughing and enjoying and realizing. Oh my god I just had two hours of not thinking about that stuff. It's really not that big of a deal I'm allowing this thing to make me feel overwhelmed. Does that make sense? Yes, and I mean The thing you want to consider what the feeling of being overwhelmed is that it is a A symptom of anxiety It's a feeling So things that can reduce anxiety can help quite a bit with the feeling of being overwhelmed Like adam saying like for him. He found something that works that gets him to feel You know reduce that sense of anxiety and then because if you've ever suffered from any type of anxiety Which if you're human you have everybody has You know that you're far less effective So if you have 15 things you need to do today But you feel anxious about it which translates into feeling overwhelmed You become very inefficient at doing those things and you can't Get anything done. You tend to freeze up You tend to not do anything And then you go to the next day and out piles piles onto the next day So techniques to reduce anxiety Are definitely a good part of the process something I've recently been using quite a bit is The mushroom rayishi Rayishi does produce a calming effect in the body both acutely And chronically in other words if you use it on a regular basis There seems to be this cumulative effect where it just starts to work better and better But you also get a you can also get an acute effect if you were to take rayishi mushroom Now and you're feeling anxious. You're likely to feel a little bit of You know relief Passion flower is something else that you can use Chaga is another mushroom that I've used Or recommended now to clients. We have a good sponsorship with four sigmatic now So now I'm recommending more of those mainly because I see how effective they are and I'm familiar with the science but Yeah, my wife's been using the rayishi and yeah, and that's been helping because We've both kind of gone through these spells together of you know, like going through this anxiety and like It got to a point where it became really physical, you know And like I actually went to the hospital like she like had You know a physical reaction And you know, this is something that we quickly realized like we were just letting this happen based off of like Our day-to-day like habits and we were just taking everything on taking all this kind of stress on and You know, so she's been working with that. I've been working with You know my posture and the way that I'm just focused more on breathing and just opening myself So I've noticed, you know with just the way that you carry yourself A lot of times even with the posture if you're not getting a nice deep breath throughout your day I mean you just I mean that compiles and over the next day in the next day all of a sudden now I'm like I'm really like, you know tensing up and I'm keeping a lot of this this needless Stress and and it's turning into anxiety which bleeds into like Like the overwhelm feeling like all of a sudden now like all these things matter so much and I'm taking on this You know like this feeling towards it and I like what you said about the minimalist attitude like We do there's so much shit that we do and have that contributes to our anxiety that We don't need to have it is it is, you know, a wonderful of a feeling it is to Come to terms with the fact that you don't need a lot of shit And you end up not getting a lot of shit and now you're just like, well, I feel like so much better I realized that I didn't need that stuff. I don't have I have less clutter less things to worry about Things are more simple and I'm focusing on the things that are important But at the end of the day, um, there may be some root causes to this feeling of anxiety and overwhelm and overwhelm and that's just that You're fucking busy. There's a lot of shit going on the organizing Tasks and you know putting them in order Of you know priority and when to finish them and how to do them is a fantastic method of Making yourself more efficient you go to any company any business and this is the one of the basic things that they do You can't you know, you can't just go somewhere and say, okay Here's what we're going to accomplish That could be a bad thing too though kind of like tracking your food with with like what we talk about like, you know There's pluses and minuses to that, right? Do you think that becoming over Organized oh, yeah, it's called OCD right hell. Yeah, and I think there's I think you have to I think you have to Preface that a bit or give that warning with that is that you know, hey Getting more organized can help this situation, but it could also Uh, um make it worse. Yeah, you could you could if you I mean you could sit there and become OCD about everything to the point where then that creates right anxiety for you. Absolutely But like, you know, you know when I have my kids like I I know what time I wake up I know the order of things that I do in the morning so that they have their lunch ready So that I can check their homework so I have time to do my meditation my workout Then I know what time I wake them up Walk them to school and it's just the structure that I create that It alleviates a lot of that sense of anxiety and overwhelming in the morning because I know the times I'm going to accomplish these different things and what I'm going to do and it's like no problem Like everything's thought out and processed and so it really does make a big difference The hard thing is when you're in this state of mind When you're sitting there feeling like fuck, I can't finish everything. There's too much stuff to do And someone comes to you and says hey make a list like you want to punch them in the face Like that was my that was my response like what are you talking about like I don't want to do that and it's like You have to understand that your reluctance to do that is just the reflection of your anxiety Literally just relax with that whole like I don't want to make a list And just write a list because almost like you don't want to see what's on the list I know that's how I feel like I don't want to write this because then I got to look at all this shit That I got to do it's almost like I'm trying to run away from it, but you can't so you know just Calm yourself down Write that thing out write that list out start knocking things off your list after about two or three of them and you'll feel So much better write history quick commercial break you guys we keep getting asked all the time How can I support the mine pump family? 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What's the effect of digestive enzymes on protein absorption and muscle game You pick this one adam Yeah, yeah the more the more protein that you eat the the more you're gonna need That's that's something that when you have somebody who's oh like this is why You know we talk about uh protein absorption with you know the oversaturating by consuming 200 300 400 grams of protein No one really takes an account to like the the digestive enzymes play a factor in this and that that's an important Part of it and if you're consuming so much meat so much protein and you're not getting enough foods That have enough digestive enzymes. You're also hindering that whole process too. And nobody really talks about this. No, you are And the one single thing you can do to optimize your digestive enzymes More than anything else naturally Is to thoroughly chew your food that that right there will signal your first of all there's enzymes in your saliva Which start to break down food people don't realize uh that chewing your food is digesting your food You have started the digestive process if you don't chew your food properly. You're skipping a step It would be like taking my food and in skipping the stomach part and just going straight to which I don't think I would talk about this As much as I I would now that we've experienced this personally that's a fucking game changer It was something that I I never had thought ever to even try like I'm gonna try and eat a meal Uh in fact, I had a a cousin of mine who's up in Seattle who uh Messaged me that that episode where we talked about that was like a game changer for She's like I have I've never tried to eat food before without fluid like it's just it's so in our culture Yeah, it's so in our culture to to the point where how many times have you been pissed off at a restaurant? Because someone hasn't refilled your fucking soda or your drink fast enough Isn't it so crazy how the most simple things like that and like fasting and like, you know Just stepping away from food for a minute. It's like It just seems like No, that's too obvious, you know, like these are just small things But they like have such a massive impact when you implement them day after day Well, dude, it's it's crazy and I don't I don't eat every meal just so you know going forward I don't eat every meal with no fluid. It's just I did that So I it gave me a new perspective of how I was consuming my food And that was what that was the takeaway for me And so I think that is what I've been trying to teach and tell people I'm not saying like I don't tell people like hey, don't ever have fluids and whatever You know I'm saying when you're when you're eating food I say try and eat a meal without it and pay attention to the way you chew It's interesting. Yeah, because the I mean the fast food culture I mean, we've been like trying to engineer this this process to speed up and get back to work You know, like everybody has this like massive Hustle in their mentality with like their lunch breaks and all these kinds of things and they're just You know scarfing it in as quick as possible It's a very it's a very when you really think about it. It is a very interesting strange You know poor connection to food and eating and let me explain If I you know, let's say you're looking at a burger and you're like fuck I want to eat that burger so bad. It looks so delicious and I say hey Let me blend that burger up and inject it directly into your stomach so you can have it Would you want to do that? No because you didn't experience it, right? It's in your belly, but you didn't get to chew it and experience it and yet you taste it for like A second and yet what do people do when they eat something they really want to eat? They scarf it the fuck down like all they're trying to do is get it in their stomach as fast as possible That is not a natural Thing that we're doing that is something that is learned and taught compulsion. It's a compulsion Because honestly if you really want to enjoy your food You chew it and you taste it because that's the part that you enjoy It's not about getting it in your stomach. It's so don't you take a digestive enzyme. No, I only date So I have a digestive enzymes that I will take with me On trips when I'm eating Food that contain gluten or some dairy like lactase for example lactase is the enzyme that breaks down lactose In in dairy and I am not only am I do I have an issue with milk proteins? But I also don't break down lactate lactose very well So I'll take that and some of the enzymes in there will help A little bit with gluten which I tend to have a little bit of an issue with although these days It seems like I can eat gluten You know a couple times a week and I have a problem because I've done so this is why I wanted to bring this question up Too because I knew that you did use that and I do know that As far as supplementing with digestive enzymes It typically is most beneficial for people to have like irritable bowel syndrome or have coming issues like you If you have gut issues if you have acid reflux by the way acid reflux and gird and all that It's not the result of too much acid. It's the result of having too little acid In your stomach and you're as and you're also probably deficient or not producing enough enzymes again If you look at studies even people with heartburn Aside from eliminating certain foods that are triggers chewing you food thoroughly Solves that problem for a fucking big chunk of people With those problems same thing with preaching to the choir. Yeah, and you know What's funny talking about that like if you had told me five years ago to do that I was said no it's not possible because then I'll choke on my food because I have this one big tonsil That's bullshit. I don't do it anymore. I don't need fluid And I just so funny it's such an argument I see is because I totally had a problem like choking like And I didn't realize that like it was my it was it was the amount of like I just wouldn't chew enough like I would just eat and then just eat like big chunks and just swallow it And then we'll try and wash it down and the process was all about trying to like wash it down and pack it down in there Well, that you think about all of us went through that at one But we were all trying to gain weight to get build build Yeah, that was the process right and like when you think I can recall many times Shoveling shakes down and you know, I remember like having a you know 800 calorie protein shake while I had my meal and I would take a bite and wash it down with the shake and like literally just Swallowed all not even really chewy So think about what you're right, right? So it's so thick with but I know I know there's got to be younger guys And and and maybe even girls that are trying to build and build and add calories to their diet I would say unless you're on the extreme ends of the spectrum Even then I don't know if it's necessarily going to give you a benefit To supplement with digestive enzymes. See here's the thing with digestive enzymes We know what they do, right? They break down protein into amino acids so your body can now utilize the protein whatever So supplement companies taking this next step and say, oh This is going to make you utilize more protein more effectively more efficiently. You can shovel more protein for the most part Unless again, you have issues with your with your gut, especially if you have bad issues like Crohn's disease Um, uh, or you're been diagnosed with really bad acid reflux You're producing all the enzymes you need just eat properly and chew your food well and you're going to have them all Well, and most don't liver disease is another one most protein shakes and some of that ain't put digestive enzymes It sounds cool, right? No, no, I mean But I mean like you're you're already getting what you need from probably the shakes and bars What makes me laugh about that is you are when you're that's probably the a shake is probably What you would need the least amount of digestive enzymes considering That's already my process. Yeah, it's already it's fluid. It's already chewed the fuck They chewed it for you. They chewed the hell out of it. So Um, I mean that all the liver disease. I think people liver disease age related, uh deficiencies in Uh, digestive enzymes like those people might benefit, but otherwise I think it's so well I will I will say though. I've had clients that I think are on the like kind of like you're in where I've like just looked at their diet and looked at what kind of foods they were getting And they just weren't getting a lot of foods that were that were rich and digestive enzyme like bell peppers and different fruits and things like that That they never really got that in their rotation And yet they their stomach always felt backed up or weird and by me helping them just adding those foods into their diet They felt relief there. So I do think if you're somebody I don't think there's a need to supplement for it unless you have a specific issue like Like an irritable bowel syndrome or actually, you know, you've been diagnosed with tummy issues like sow Another one you could look at too for digestion is so a lot of people Um Have issues with like I like we're talking about digestive issues and they have too little. Uh, they produce too little acid One of the things you can do you can actually buy Um, uh a hcl supplement, which is uh, I believe it's hydrochloric acid if I'm not or no Betting hydrochlor chloride Um, which uh will increase the amount of hydrochloric acid in your stomach So for some people they can do this when they eat a lot of meat Because you'll see people like people with acid reflex. They'll say, oh my god, when I eat a lot of meat I just get this really bad, you know, and it's because again, they're not producing enough acid They can supplement with this and it helps Mike Salami is the one that introduced me to this and Paul checks talks about this as well that this supplement may help some people. So just a little side note Next up is glen spt Do you guys believe that resistance training is sufficient for maintaining cardiovascular health? Or that some sort of aerobic exercise should exist week to week If so, how would you incorporate aerobic exercise into a maps program? I do with a good diet Yeah, oh totally If you eat well and you train and you phase and you have like our phase four of fucking Map screen in there occasionally like you should like I mean, yeah, I think you get I think you get plenty of cardio in that phase Right, you know what I love about resistance training Is that you can you can if you know how to use weights properly you can do anything with them This is not true with other methods of exercise like I'm not going to get good strength with cardiovascular activity It's going to be very it'll be very very I'll get a little bit but very Yeah, a little bit like sprinting when you're running or something but like even then yeah The gains are minimal I could take someone and I could take two groups of people and one group's you know And the goal is to improve Cardiovascular endurance for a particular sport or activity And on the one one group over here It's okay All you get to do is cardio And then the other group I said all you get to do is use weights and then I program the weights I'll build way better cardio with the weight group by having them do things like circuits and you know High-intensity interval type training with actually we just actually me and adam filmed a whole series It's getting edited right now on youtube on that so For cardiovascular health You don't need to have extreme amounts of cardiovascular performance for health. You just need to move right move every day If you walk every single day and you stay active you're done like that's what you that's what you have Now if you want a little bit more endurance You can definitely get that through Programming your resistance training in a way that you're going to aim for visit for endurance Like like we said with circuits or you can do some cardio The way that I have people program cardio in their maps programs is typically first I tell them just increase their their knee their, you know, non-exercise You know activity thermogenesis just being active And then if they want to add cardio, I'll tell them, you know, no problem 30 minutes three days a week just if you enjoy doing it for your health Get on a machine and go forward or go outside And that's pretty much it if you want to improve. Yeah, that's just scheduled activity Yeah, you know, that's all cardio is like it waits to me feels like a lot more specific like to You know, I have totally different ways to adapt, you know to these types of loads that I'm placing on my body and my joints and so There's just so much benefit to that, you know, when I'm going to to grab something lift something like, you know Do strenuous activity like I want to be strong, you know, and that's that's like always been a Something as you know an adaptation I need to to maintain and to keep that going into, you know, as I get older especially Right, I feel like people are always finding like different ways to ask us questions about cardio because They want it so bad, right and and I feel like there's nothing wrong with doing it No, exactly. No, this is what I want to state is that listen, uh, none of us here And I joke about saying, you know, no no cardio or I don't do cardio Yeah, no sweat. I'm allergic to it blah blah blah blah At the end of the day, like if it's something you enjoy and you love and it helps you stay in shape and healthy I'm not knocking that on somebody. I'm what I'm talking to is is our experience and all the people that we've trained And I'm looking at as a whole the relationship that most people have with with cardio and training that way Is is not a healthy one and they don't fully understand One how to use it properly and then two how to really maximize it for their purpose and there's not your fat burning go to Yeah, exactly. It's and you know when when it's if your goal is to you know burn fat stay in shape There's a much better way about it and a better strategy if that's the case and I'm more in that like Okay, let me show you and teach you that and then you can you can play with it how you want But if you're somebody who really enjoys just getting on a treadmill and running or taking off for a run And that's your thing and you don't have a lot of imbalances and it's not causing pain in your body to do that Then by all means fucking run it. Here's I made this statement on another podcast and I want to say it again Because I want to hammer at home, okay Every extra amount or every all the extra time that you devote to cardio That's above and beyond improving your health just cardiovascular health. So now I'm pushing my cardio I'm pushing it a little bit every single bit of that is telling your body to become more efficient with activity and calories aka Slow down your metabolism. So the more cardio you apply That's beyond just your overall health, but you don't need much for overall health The more you apply The the more your body is going to try to become more efficient by slowing its metabolism down So if you're a six days a week, you know 45 minutes of cardio an hour of cardio A day person you are telling your body very loudly Hey, man, slow down your metabolism become more efficient because you're burning all these calories manually so that I can become better at doing the 60 minutes of cardio every single day and that's You know, again, if you just love doing it go for it. It's great. There's health benefits to moving all the time also But if you won't you don't you know, you may find yourself in a situation where Now you're stuck having to do that and you as soon as you you know You go on vacation for two weeks you don't stop doing that cardio and boom you gain a bunch of weight because your metabolism has Adapted in that direction. So that's really that's really why one of the main reasons why resistance training why we think it's so superior because the problems with the modern lifestyle have to do with over consumption and Not burning enough calories and resistance training keeps your metabolism fast or at least tells your body It's okay to burn more calories because we need muscle. So it's just directly combats Modern health problems cardio definitely a part of health definitely good for you But you overdo it and you're you're kind of pushing putting yourself down You get more than enough when you get through phase four of maps green for sure I mean in the fall the end of the question was how would we incorporate this into maps program? This is what I would do if I had all the maps programs Which is a year's worth of personal training all program and lined out for me And it's ideal for you to cycle through all of them Right if if we're looking for overall health being in shape performance everything just overall it's there, right? That's do not deviate follow it from point a point b all the way through With whatever little modifications that you like to do for exercises things here and there But for the most part you're sticking to it to a t and then I'm going to use my cardio Based off of the events throughout the year. So let's say guess what in four weeks I'm going to vegas So you know what I'm going to add some cardio into my life for the next four weeks And I'm going to do it strategically so I'm not going to go pause the wall the first week I'm going to do two or three days of the week I'm going to add some cardio in there in addition to everything else I was already doing and then The next week I'm going to add a little bit more and then maybe pick up my intensity the next week Of that maybe add a little bit more and intensity the week after that and then guess what I'm there Now I'm in vegas and I'm in the best shape and and because I added it like that My body responded and it changed and it got me in better shape Just stick into everything else that I was doing just by adding it to help lean me out or get me in shape like that or let's say I'm you know now it's october the Spartan championship races and I'm into obstacle course racing and I said you know what fucking sign me up to obstacle course racing I don't care to win. I just want to do with my buddies. I still care more about my muscle building program I'm going through right now I'm going to incorporate a cardio program to help You know train me for getting ready for that, which is I'm going to over a probably a nine week or so Intermittently build up your conditioning. Yeah, it's all scheduled out And I think it's great to have that you know applied to your programming as long as there's a specific goal in mind It and you have a healthy mentality towards it like you're you're phasing it in and you're you know, you just really like to include Um, you know having that that's sort of what a lot of people call in shape kind of feeling right because you feel like You can endure You know some of these workouts even better and you just have more stamina But um, you know, that's that's up to you. You know, that's something that uh, you know, it's a feel thing But definitely it's not the fat burning mechanism. It's not the you know the go-to like I have to Accomplish, you know my treadmill work every single day Like that that's a mentality that we're trying to combat with our message Quick commercial break. Hey people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump. Here's what you can do Uh, you can go to www.brain.fm forward slash mind pump and get 20 off brain fm for meditation or focus You can also go to audible trial.com forward slash mind pump and get a 30 day trial plus one free audio book Lastly, you can go to get nature blend.com forward slash mind pump And you will get a discount on ben greenfield's cbd product Next question is from acom. What advice would you give a very busy college student who can't find time to work out and eat Healthy, oh, I love this question. I wish you could see the face When I heard that question, but you're still eating though, right so um You know, I get to see what your instagram page looks like and uh, you have let's see a thousand followers and tons Tons of time spent posting selfies, you know the average Oh snap the average person Uh, especially in this age group spends hours a day On social media hours a day Um, this you know when I hear people say to me the average is two and a half to four hours When I yeah, so when I hear people say to me like I don't have I don't have two point five to four hours every day That is on average Waste when I hear people say I don't have the time to like work out and you know eat healthy. I have look. I've been in fitness for 20 years I've never met anybody ever who legit legit does not have time to Make, uh, you know to place health as a priority. Uh, and again, it's not about finding time It's about making time. You can make time Uh call busy college student you have more Time typically you have more available time to you Now then you will when you're 35 married with kids and working I'm gonna tell you that right now If you find it hard to fucking work out and eat right now You ain't gonna happen. Here's what I okay, and then south's beating you up I'm probably gonna sound like I'm beating you up here, too. So but I don't I don't mean to be the nice guy I well, you can't do it. Well, here's it. I I have trained he thought about it and then he's like nah I gotta go back to my comfort zone I've trained a lot a lot of 20 to 25 year old cute college girls. Oh, really? Yeah, absolutely Happens to be my wheelhouse So So, I mean, I'm assuming she's somewhere in that age She's a very pretty girl and she's in pretty good shape already And um, and this is a conversation that I normally have with it's along the lines of where sal was just going right now is that Listen, uh, it's we all and in you if you have pretty good genetics and you're cute You can get by all the way till about 26 years old So and at that there's a lot of science From 20 to because you have good genetics because you're pretty you're good looking you can drink on weekends You can occasionally go for a run or exercise every now and then or dance a lot at the club Like all these things just do Pilates like once and you can maintain a decent physique where you have no problem Attracting the opposite sex whatsoever and you're having a good time And you know, you should probably work out because everyone's telling you that you like this mind pump podcast These guys tell you to work out But it's not really a priority. So which is that's fine because two age their own I mean if you if if college time party have fun is the priority and that's all you care about that's okay but If you're asking a question on here and you really Want to get in shape and you want to eat health and you want to do then you'll fucking do it And you'll make it a priority And it's okay if you do and it's okay if you don't but I will tell you this That and this will happen if you do not Learn and you don't put like some practice or put some sort of Regimen together On what it takes to get you in whatever the best shape of your life looks like And you don't know what it takes and you've because you've never put yourself through that and you don't do You don't start exploring that until you get to the age that sal saying which is this is very common We've dealt with I've dealt with hundreds of these Where you know a a woman hires me at 32 to 35 years old And she's been married and she's had three kids now. I've had a lot of And now And now she is I get the guilt now she's finally starting to take time for herself And that's literally what they say they say that like, you know, I'm married and kids and you know Finally, I want to make time for myself and here I am to hire you My job helping her out is way Harder than helping somebody out who is who has learned all this has put themselves in good shape and has done this Before in their early 20s so they get it They know what it takes and they know what they need to do for their body Then somebody who has hammered their body let it go to shit because they're eating like shit. They're never they're never drinking Yeah, and then if they've let it because that shit's compounding. I'll tell you and it gets 10 times harder Like what sal was saying, I'll tell you what uh, maybe you have maybe she has the misperception That you need to work out seven days a week For an hour and a half because sometimes people say I don't have time And and I think in their mind they think they need to have like they need to work out every day and just just live This lifestyle. Yeah, that does sound like a lot, right? You don't actually you don't need to do all that A few days a week is all you need. Here's what I'm gonna do because I was mean to you earlier So I'm gonna do if you listen to this episode DM me and I'll hook you up with maps anywhere maps anywhere We designed to be with no way to you do the whole program without any equipment You don't need to go to a gym. You can do it in your your dorm room. You could do it wherever It's it's three foundational or two foundational workouts a week And then there's amp sessions that you can throw in whenever you want You'll get phenomenal results on it and it's not going to require Hours and hours and hours of dedicated working out. It's just expertly programmed and you just just that's it I'll hook you up. So just DM me and that's it because that that program is literally the one that we designed specifically for people who You know legitimately are like, look, it's hard for me to drive to the gym Or I can't drive the gym because I got to take care of this or and it's like here you go Here's a program that is going to give you to maximize your efficiency and Structure it in a way where if time is an issue, you know, we can we can get more effective You know with what kind of time we have to give so if you can't really necessarily drop things In replacement of it. Let's just get you know more effective with what you're doing That's it. And for me personally, like I have a very very busy life And I schedule my workout first thing in the morning I just do it that way and it ain't my favorite time to work out. It's just not a prior when I this colleague I said I've had this conversation so many times. It's like it's just not a priority right now It's and I get it. It's you're at you're 20 to 25 years old You're going to college like they know that you should be eating right because people are saying it whatever and it's like But it's and the unfortunate part and then you want to get real deep here This is where you know, we talk about your relationship with your yourself and difference between self image and body image like You know This is a lot of times if you don't figure all that piece out And then you wait until you're you feel disgusted about your body or you're unhappy or whatever it may be This is like a snowball effect of like this emotional roller coaster that becomes this huge task For me the trainer to help fix all that because you've done all this emotional damage beating yourself up over years Because you didn't take care of it when you knew you should have so you know learn it figured out right now for yourself Whether you apply it all the time or not that's up to you But you know you take someone like yourself and I would Challenge you to give three months three months of your life of following You know a program right eating correctly follow a regimen make a priority for it Doesn't have to be overwhelming like sal saying two days maybe three days a week Follow it stick to it and then when and then after that like then it's up to you when you implement it How much of it you do and how much you enjoy yourself? 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