 This is covering the spread part of the fandom podcast network. I would say the AFC playoff picture is taking shape right now But honestly It's a very weird picture because there are six separate teams that are plus 310 and eat between plus 310 The even money to make the AFC playoffs right now So a lot still have to be decided including deciding whether or not Jake Browning can actually lead the Bengals on a playoff surge Minus Joe Burrow we're gonna break down that today with Ryan Williams talking about that AFC playoff race Where is he some value in Fandall sportsbook? Which teams he's not buying into and then taking a look at the week 15 is spreads totals and money lines not lining Where am I model show value for this week? This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research Joined here as I am every Tuesday by Ryan Williams check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W and Ryan interesting games last night big comeback for the Tennessee Titans the New York Giants led by Tommy DeVito coming through once again. So two big upsets. How are you doing today? Tommy DeVito, don't forget the D He had some magic there Late in the fourth quarter looking like looking like Tom Brady looked like Patrick Mahomes run in a two minute drill Yeah, it's the Green Bay Packers defense. So yeah wild wild one. I know we had some some great hits yesterday on covering the spread, but definitely did not see the Titans money line hitting and the Giants money line hitting in that fashion. So Yeah, I mean, that's that's why they play the games, right? That's that's what they look for but but no excited to talk some futures with you because last night definitely Shapes up the market a little bit. It shakes it up a lot actually Yeah, it definitely does and there's a lot to discuss with that market And I think that last night with the Dolphins they went from trailing then suddenly five seconds later they're covering 13 and a half and then they lose the game outright in regulation To do that was bananas They get the Jets this week that that line for the Jets Dolphins game moved four points from look ahead from what it was well not the look ahead but from where it was on Monday morning we're from 12 and a half to eight and a half and honestly like you know, I get it I think that's a bit of an overreaction of Terry kill is able to go next week, but like still You know, it's very interesting to see how much of a reaction there was in the market to that game That game is thankfully for me not involved with the recommendations I'll have later on because I don't know how to read this Dolphins team right now We're gonna talk about the teams that are more in the fringes of the ASC playoff picture We're gonna talk Bengals Kind of see if Jake Brown can keep this thing going then we'll talk about the other ASC playoff contenders Who are all right now plus money and decide which ones maybe the best bets right now to advance the postseason the first A reminder to make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We were here every weekday breaking down the NFL will get some NBA NHL talk on the show for tomorrow as well Full NFL week 15 preview coming of Thursday And of course NFL player props and some EPL coming your way Friday to get all that as it is posted Make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast If you like what you hear leave us a five-star rating on Apple Podcasts or Spotify You can also find us on the Fandall YouTube page and over on Fandall TV plus Let's begin things Ryan by talking about those Bengals right now They are plus three ten to make the playoffs at Fandall Sportsbook and I get it Jake Browning has looked really good recently and that's been fun to see Zach Taylor game plan around a Back-up quarterback, but it's also Ryan just a two-game sample Have you seen enough in that sample to consider buying the Bengals at that number or is the market valuing the Bengals properly right now I Think both I think they're valuing them properly, but I do think that there's merit here when you're looking at The way, you know Lou emmerino runs the defense as well, too If if Jake Browning can keep on this pace I mean, this is kind of what we're seeing already Jim with just you know Back-up quarterbacks in these positions to you know get get teams into the playoffs. I mean, we're seeing it You know, we're seeing it with Cleveland Houston's gonna have their their chance at this like the Colts being in the mix We're gonna mention. I mean the list goes on and on with just these back-up quarterbacks who have come in I mean the Steelers with Trubisky like it's just crazy and Jake Browning has definitely looked The part I guess of being able to come in and fill in admirably and part of that is the the skilled position weapons Around him, you know if they can you know get mixed and go in they got this Chase Brown kid Who's coming in into his own tea Higgins is back healthy. You will see it's like a revolving door over there You know tea Higgins comes back Tyler Boards now on the injury report But I think it is interesting when you look at their schedule here You know, they're facing the Minnesota Vikings team who just again back-up quarterback. They can't get it, right? Josh Dobbs getting benched in in the game. So I guess that magic is over Then you got at Pittsburgh at Kansas And people home to end it out. I mean these are these are some games These are some tough matchups, but I do I do feel like they they are in the driver's seat to be able to you know Bring it home starting starting with these You know, you get you handle business at home against Minnesota Then you take care of Pittsburgh who's been reeling and I think you kind of you know You can you can have that loss against Kansas City at on the road and still be in a good position Yeah, plus 310 right now the number for the Bengals to make the playoffs They are minus 420 to miss and I think that part of the reason why you could potentially have some faith here is It's honestly not just a two-game sample because Browning came in in the middle of that Ravens game That's where Borough heard his wrist initially and then he played against the Steelers against the Jags and against the Colts And I have numbers on how a team does on early downs through the air and on the ground but I care more about through the air and It looks at what they do relative to expectations So basically a plus minus compared to expectations based on the matchup They've actually exceeded expectations through the air in all four games since the Borough wrist injury occurred They did it against the the Ravens and the Steelers They didn't put up a lot of points in those games But like they did exceed expectations now the the issue they had was if it gets to third down They're in pretty deep doo-doo because they struggled there quite a bit, but The early down stuff is is is good It's also way better than it was earlier on this year when Borough is playing for that calf injury Like they were awful those first four games in this metric so I'm I'm still hesitant because I think that I you know you mentioned the Chiefs game I still think the Chiefs are pretty feisty the Steelers make every game disgusting So like that game is kind of gross the Vikings defense is playing pretty well I'm still skeptical of the Bengals defense So I'm not sure if I might get to plus 310, but like I don't I wouldn't be shocked at the offense of stuff Maybe not being what it has been but at least well exceeding expectations that part Ryan wouldn't shock me if it does wind up sticking at least a bit Yeah, I think and it You know three three teams make the wildcard right now, so we get that we get that 17 and when we're looking More than the wildcard picture right now I just keep going back to a gym We've talked about it for weeks now and a Cleveland keeps proving me wrong But you know these three teams I'm just I'm not convinced that they'll be there at the end of the day And I know we'll talk about the rest of the AFC picture there, but Oh Like arguably better than the three teams who are in the picture right now The four teams I should say who I had seven and six I mean Houston did versus Cincinnati Buffalo like the only one I'm really not certain about is Cincinnati and they've kind of hit their stride So it's like, you know Pittsburgh Indian and Cleveland definitely have their work cut out for them And I'm excited to see how this plays out So let's talk about those other contenders you alluded to right there because right now We have four other teams that are even money between even money and plus two ten to make the playoffs a fan dual sportsbook Led by the bills actually down to even money. They were plus one ten I believe yesterday now bet down to even money There was some movement in the money line in that game against Dallas which may help explain why this occurred Broncos are plus 142 Texans plus 116 Colts plus 116 and Steelers plus 210 They're all bunched together Ryan So which of those teams do you think is the best bet relative to their fan dual sportsbook odds to make the playoffs right now? Well, I mean, okay So the best bet I feel like right now to make the playoffs based on their odds are the number Broncos Especially if they able to handle business this week against the Lions now They are I believe five or five and a half point dogs in this matchup Is in Detroit So I think the one thing that not bank on but I think the one thing that kind of excites us about this is that we should see points scored and you know have Russell Wilson get going with with that crew it Detroit and this is that it needs this win badly to have themselves feel good about where they Where they sit in the playoff picture? They're gonna be you know climbing an uphill battle, but after Detroit and looking at new Rangers at home and then Vegas on the road for Denver to close it out I mean what you know, what better way to you know wrap up your season then with the schedule like that And they've been on fire, you know, whatever it is seven out of their last eight games I believe that they've won with the only loss to Houston, which was a respectable one So I think that their odds are definitely incredible. The bills are also interesting like at plus, you know they're plus money to make the playoffs right now and They're favored this week against the Cowboys like I get it's in Buffalo I had double check this because I was like what what is happening here like That's one of the recommendations I have later Ryan is the Cowboys money line So we're on the same page there. Believe me. Well, and it's like Jim How many times have I talked about the bills on this show like I think everybody thinks that I have steak, you know in in the Buffalo bills with And you know, I do have some futures in them So I do feel great, you know if they're able to win this game against Alice and and kind of you know Get in get into the mix here for playoffs But it just really is mind-boggling to me that like the Cowboys have kind of been the cream of the crop of the NFC as of late and this is a team that like has really struggled and then they beat a struggling chiefs team and we're gonna favor them If the bills are able to win this then they do get a similar schedule like the Broncos They get the Chargers on the road New England at home and then they end with Miami a team that you know It is a playoff team, but they've been able to take care of business against the Dolphins in Josh Allen and in Dermott's career. So Yeah, I do think that there there's some merit there, but I do tend to like the bills Money line or I'm sorry the Broncos money line just a little bit better Not only with their schedule, but just because of what shapes up for them in week 15 Yeah, and I think with the Broncos you could also view this as Asking yourself how you view them this week against the Lions You think that they're undervalued against the Lions and bet them now to make the playoffs at plus 142 because if they win that game then They're gonna be in great shape and they're gonna have much shorter odds at that point If you think that the Lions are in good spot to win that game You agree at the market that the line should be favored then wait a week and kind of see Where things that allow for them after that because you can probably get a better number at that point So if you agree with the market that the Lions are decently heavily favored in that game then hold off But if you disagree and think it's situation where you know, maybe you're more on The Broncos side think that the markets undervaluing them plus 142 is a good number now with the Texans We I've been high on them all year. I finally placed my first bet against him this week Which is very sad to pull that trigger and bet against my guys, but with Stroud and percussion protocol they're on the road taking on Tennessee and I don't think that Davis Mills is Well positioned to win that game. So That's pretty tough if we assume that stroud misses and then they've got Cleveland at home the following week and then Tennessee and at Indy I had thought that this road for the Texans was pretty easy and that was why I was on their playoff odds earlier on Now I'm more skeptical because it's not only just CJ Stroud likely to miss this week, which does put Pretty big dents in their their odds to win. It's also that Cleveland's a tough out now with Flacco playing decently. Okay Tennessee again, it's a repeat match up there I think they can win that one for sure But then they go on the road to face Indy and Indy might play it for a playoff spot as well So I like the Texans earlier. I'm out for right now I wouldn't be shocked if I bet them in like individual games once stroud is healthy even with tanked L being gone But I think at least for right now. I'm okay Taking the foot off the gas on my beloved Texans for the moment now Ryan Let's take a look elsewhere and talk about other teams that got a boost for you across week 14 Which teams we have not discussed yet got a boost up or down for you based on what you saw this past week Yeah, well, I think the teams if we're talking I mean boost up like let's let's talk about the The the bills I guess I mean hey if they're you know gonna be hitting their stride and you know Taking care of business against Arrowhead with the Chiefs, you know still up at the top to be favored In the Super Bowl as far as AFC teams go then then yeah, I guess we we gotta give the bills there their their flowers Maybe I don't know. I'm still skeptical about what week 15 holds for them in the future But you know what one game at a time and and that's that's definitely what you want to see is People were not expected them to go into Arrowhead and be able to handle business You know, the Jaguars are kind of that middling team for me You you love to see Trevor Lawrence come back and kind of battle it out there For this team as they they kind of go as he goes and they got a great matchup this week On primetime Sunday night football against the Ravens, you know at home And you know, this is one of those games too for me where the Ravens they got to come out and show something like they have such a great path To be the number one seed in in the AFC right now that like this is where I need them to come out and handle business You know, it's been a tough sledding It's been tough sledding for them over the past two years with Lamar being heard and you know I think not even able to finish our games in December come recent years and you know I think that their window is kind of it's opened Jokes have been playing so really need to see something from the Ravens this week As far as stock down goes, you know, I think the Green Bay Packers last night Not able to handle business against the Giants is is definitely a tough luck. You know, they I think that the the magic for them is kind of running out but It's like Christian and then Owns aren't there, you know from an offensive standpoint, they're just a very young team and that definitely shows Still plus money for them to make the playoffs and they still have like a decent road to be able to get in there The Vikings, you know winning that 3-0 game definitely hurt them Because now they have to play catch up and they will have to play the I believe they have to play the Vikings again reasons so That's definitely a stock down one that I was looking at And yeah, I mean, I think you know some of these like in the NFC the NFC picture Jim is just Absolutely brutal, you know, I can't trust Seattle like I have no idea what's going on NFC South I've talked about that week over week like I mean the Falcons and Buccaneers and Saints just all belong with each other without their playing so It and you know still some like the Giants and Bears are still mathematically in it Like that's just how crazy it is with five and eight record at at week 15 still being able to make the playoffs So I guess the Vikings would be one too like I don't see the an outlook for them Looking good if they can't figure out the quarterback position Sitting at seven and six, but you know Justin Jefferson being banged up not being able to come back like they're gonna have some tough Sledding to make the playoffs Bears are plus 1260 Ryan. You still got a chance. You never know could happen. They're facing the Browns this week You know, it's a three-point spread. It's pretty tight. It's it's not over yet It's it's definitely not over Jim, but it's it's it's a crazy thing happening in that NFC picture Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Any other futures you're eyeing entering week number 15 Ryan Yeah, I think this this is kind of where you know, the wind totals is where I'm gonna live this week Just with how things played out. It really just shook up the picture and not in a fun way I am looking at the Cowboys just at 850 to win the Super Bowl now You know, you're looking at them kind of being you know taking care of business against Philly in in great fashion And you know sitting at 850 there like right under the Dolphins. I think that's a little bit wrong I would expect to see them a little bit higher at this point You know, they're they're definitely going to want to play for that one seed But again, I don't I don't know if they'll catch Philly or San Fran with the way that they're playing But still still makes it interesting there and how the team that we've been able to trust and play one that we So I'm Jim. I'm not gonna talk about them because they're not in the playoffs, but like brand-new daily What is going on are the Chargers talked about them a couple times? You know year over year and and I just really am just depressed when I look at the Chargers and think about what their Outlook is and their future is and you know, Herbert hasn't been able to get going Austin Eckler is probably You know an afterthought now in that offense And it looks like they got the wide receiver wrong when four were picked in a row and they you know They probably made the wrong pick there with Clinton Johnson. So I Digress It's sad man. It's tough to see that the Chargers where they're at That Thursday night game totals 33 and a half but Ryan I did in fact take the over once again What could possibly go wrong for that Thursday night game to the Chargers and the Raiders? Aiden O'Connell gets Easton stick. Yeah, gotta love that. That is Ryan Williams Make sure you check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscored W Ryan will be back with us once again next week to preview a much better game on Monday nights in the Eagles and the Seahawks Ryan looking forward to that have a fantastic week until then. We'll talk to you once again Monday Yeah, enjoy week 15 Jim. 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Let's begin things with one of those saturday games between the stealers and the colts right now at fandall's sportsbook Colts are favored by two and a half minus 115 on their side of things and i do show value on that number Lay in the two and a half with the colts and a lot of this is because of the stealers injuries where It's a pretty big downgrade for them both on offense and on defense. Kenny picket is likely still out Following his tightrope surgery tough to come back from that in two weeks So he's likely out and now tj watt is in concussion protocol What does have nine days to clear and we've seen More players recently clear concussion protocol In less than a week than we had for a very long time previously so That rate has gone up, but I don't think that'll be true with watt given he had symptoms When he came in friday, I think that probably pushes back his timeline and makes it less likely watt is able to go in this game Even if I assume watt is in like if I keep this this stealers defense stagnant My numbers do show value on the colts here They sputtered badly against the bangles thanks to A very poor defense of showing and they're they're a bad defense. So that makes a lot of sense but That won't be as big of a concern against the stealers as it would have been Against that that bangles offense We know the colts limitations gardener men choose the lobs like quarterback their defense is pretty bad But we also know the stealers too, especially With mitch trabisky at quarterback I thought trabisky was a pretty lateral move from picket and I was probably wrong So I did downgrade them a bit more than I did entering a week week 13 week 14 Based on the back of quarterback being in there If we do see watt get ruled out I'd expect this to move to three and my model has it decently clear of that as well So even at minus 115 on the colts here at minus two and a half I do like the colts in this spot So first bet for me on the saturday game is the colts minus two and a half minus 115 As they take on the pittsburgh stealers Other bets for me are scattered across sunday and monday Let's begin things by talking about a teenlets in the nsc playoff race right now in the los angeles rams They did not get the win on sunday against ravens came close but couldn't quite get there on sunday They're taking on the commanders They are six and a half point favorites at minus 110 and i am okay laying the six and a half here With the rams in large part because their offense has been cooking recently. It's not just that baltimore game where they put up 31 points in regulation. They also played well against cleveland who has i think the best defense in football Now they're facing the commanders very much not the best defense in football in fact since the montez sweat and Chase young trades you could argue they've been the worst defense in football They are coming off a buy and that does get them a point six point bump for me and my model But that's not enough to bridge the gap here. I think the six and a half is honestly pretty light Thanks to the past couple weeks of the rams offense. They're now up to 12th in my overall power rankings uh commanders 29th before downgrading them for the departures of sweat and young My model has this spread closer to double digits than it does a touchdown So i'm fine laying the six and a half in this spot I think the rams offense is well exceeding expectations Cooper cup looked a lot better sunday, you know still limited for sure, but Better than he had before and they've got puke in akua demarcus robinson is popping up for them Kyron williams make this offense more dynamic So the rams go from facing the browns and ravens to facing the commanders I think they're going to put up a lot of points here. So totally okay laying the six and a half with the rams Embedding on the favorites here as they try to march closer to the nsc playoff race The final money line or spread for me is one I alluded to in talking to you ryan That is the dallas cowboys taking on the buffalo bills right now The cowboys money line is plus 116 a fan dual sports book and I do Show value there and this was a bit of a surprise to me because my model has been on the bills quite a bit recently Showing a lot of value on them. I was on them for that cheese game for their money line a plus 118 there Got the win in that one. Thanks to some help uh from cadarius tony But now they go they go back home and they face the cowboys and I think this this number kind of undersells the cowboys at least a bit If you look at the cowboys overall So including early part of the year where they had some weird games and some struggles The cowboys are now second in my model's power rankings behind just the 49ers the bills are fifth So still a very good team there, but there is a decent like tier gap between the two of the teams Thanks the large part of the cowboys defense playing a lot better And I've got some injuries on defense, uh, especially against the run and the bill's defense has been or bill's offense Has been very efficient on the ground, which could be a concern in this game Other concern is it is a road game outdoors For a dome team in december and the cowboys offense has been much more efficient at home Then they have been on the road now part of that though is The way their teams are broken down their offense has been a lot better since their bi-week But since their bi they've played just two games on the road If you look at those two games on the road one was against the eagles And they probably should have won that game and philly scored just 23 points, but pretty bad Pretty bad efficiency inside the red zone So that was a bit fluky and then the other game was against the panthers and they cruise pretty easily in that game So they've been better on the road since the bi than they were before the bi Now they face the bills bill's defense is super banged up Um, I thought the chiefs moved the ball pretty effectively against them on sunday The chief successor is very high in that game So wasn't a boost up for the bill's defense despite the fact they led up to 17 points in that game When you blend this all together blend together the cowboys being the road with what they've done overall And you know everything with the bills going on there I do make the cowboys slight favorites here So getting plus 116 on their money line is pretty enticing and you could say hey The bills of higher motivation here trying to make the playoffs The cowboys that they win this game have a much clearer path to winning the nfce Especially with the seahawks in a somewhat tough game on monday night football So I actually do like the cowboys here plus 116 fine with going there I do get a bit nervous because of the Home road splits for the cowboys, but I think those are kind of for in the market right now So I'll take the cowboys at plus 116 To win the game outright and that just shifted while we were talking to plus 114 So still I get a plus 114 as mentioned I do show value in the cowboys money or the cowboys as being like the favorites in this game It's very slight favorites So even at plus 114 you can't get the plus 116 anymore I do feel okay with the cowboys the joy Of doing these uh podcasts live on air Final one for me is going to be in the monday night football game between the seahawks and the eagles total This game is 48 under his minus 110 and honestly Pretty shocked the total is as high as it is right now considering that there's a shot We see drew lock once again this game I think that it's it's helpful to look back at last week's markets for 49ers and seahawks to kind of get a read on the impact of drew lock here And it may be geno smith it sounds like it was a one to two week injury So maybe he does wind up playing and lock I thought played okay in that game against the c80 49ers as well So Let's take a look at the markets in that game It was 46 and a half when it was geno smith By the time smith is officially ruled out the total in that one went down to 44 and a half So that was kind of what they thought about the seahawks match upon the road against the 49ers But that game featured a much larger spread the the 49ers closed I think it's like 16 and a half in some spots They were 13 and a half when it was like halfway between geno and lock that was an overreaction But a larger spread correlates to a higher total And that one is still at 44 and a half this time With geno, maybe 50 40 percent to play somewhere in there The total is 48 So it's a much higher hit total and the spread is tighter with the eagles favor by three and a half right now minus 115 on that three and a half, but I guess I'm a bit surprised to see the the way this is this has come together where That one closed at 44 and a half for the seahawks and the 49ers There's a shot we see drew lock once again. The spread is now tighter, but the total goes up to 48 I get it because this is two decently fast-paced offenses both offenses can put up points But Another defense is very good either. So I understand why it's 48. I just disagree with them My model has the total here 44.4. It's about average above average in terms of like overall offensive expectations Wind is not a huge factor here. I think it's about four miles per hour on on monday chance of rain But not a huge factor there. So I think under 48 the pretty strong play here between the seahawks and the eagles again surprised To see this number as high as it as it is, but I'm fine taking that So I'll take the seahawks eagles under 48. You know, gino does wind up playing. I feel okay with this one It's based on the way the rest of the match upsets up So recommendations for me this week are the seahawks eagles under 48 and minus 110 Got the cowboys money line against the bills at plus 116 I like the rams minus six and a half minus 110 against the commanders and the colts minus two and a half minus 115 as they take on the stealers Gotta go back through recommendations from last week here on the show across all of last week shows beginning with dr Ed fang we had him on thursday to break down the nfl in week number 14 tough luck here for ed because we talked on thursday gino smith injured his groin on thursday after the show and Ed spirit bet was seahawks plus 10 and a half taken on the 49ers and They almost covered the 10 and a half even with drew lock was a 12 point game when it all was said and done So tough luck there for ed. I Not really sure how that game would have broken down had gino played because again lock did play decently well But uh tough luck there for ed on the seahawks plus 10 and a half with the gino being ruled out It's probably decent decently competitive game if gino is in that one So check out ed on twitter at the power rank and find his work at the power rank dot com our guest on friday to break down nfl player props was tom vekio checking out on twitter at tom underscore vekio won Tom went three and one for the week uh for his recommendations here on the show He had patrick mahomes Over 261 and a half passing yards in their game against the bills thaw process there no isaepa checo Should throw more and they did because mahomes finished with 271 there The one loss for tom was lamar jackson under 197 and a half passing yards and minus 114 Lamar played really well in this game. I peppered Uh, he got had really efficient looks to as a likely odell beckham and ze flower. So lamar finished 316, but Loss is a loss regardless uh regardless of how far it goes over. So, uh, It is a loss either way, but the other ones were hits for tom He had kiran won's in that game over 16 and a half rushing attempts And the rams really did try to pound this one here. Uh, williams had 25 rush attempts So well over at minus 114. I think that would have been a win Even before overtime with williams final one was jamir gibbs to score a touchdown at plus 150 gibbs Did score pretty early against the bearers the lines didn't do a ton But hey, gibbs got the touchdown there. So three and one week for tom again Check him out on twitter at tom underscore vekio won He'll have a preview of chargers and raiders on the podcast feed on thursday via prime time tom and also over on fan dual tv plus Mention this before but ryan williams did well last night for the two monday night football games to find ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w He had the under for titans dolphin's at 46 and a half minus 110 that was a loss because Uh, so titans put up a lot of points there But the rest did go pretty well He had where he mostured to get 50 plus rushing yards at plus 108 most of the 96 Uh, looks really good in that game a couple of short touchdowns. So good call by ryan there Ryan had tirey kill over seven half receptions at plus 106 Obviously hill in and out of that game with that ankle injury finished with just four receptions. So no win there ryan did have deandre hopkins over 54 and a half receiving yards minus 113 also talked about uh alternate markets for hopkins given the Deep balls from will leves and hopkins finished with 124 So well over that number. Hopefully you did dig into the alt markets for hopkins because Most of those would have hit as well in the giants and packers game ryan said he had a lean toward the giants plus six and over 37 and both those did win so lean's there for ryan but Pretty emphatic wins for him as uh, we saw a lot of points in that game relative to expectation We did see the giants come through with the win outright. So good call by ryan there Uh, the giants got the win despite the fact that jade and reed did score ryan liked him for an anytime touchdown Two to one and reed got a red zone rush attempt as we discussed on the show A lot of rushing attempts actually for jade and reed. Um, so He does cash a two to one for anytime touchdown ryan had saco on barkley over 69 half rushing yards That was a win there pretty easily had saco on over three and a half receptions at plus 108 and he finished with three So a loss there also a loss in jail and high for anytime touchdown at plus 550 And a loss for jordan love over 225 and a half passing yards at uh, 218 But then did get hit with wandale robinson to have four plus receptions at plus 144 For a win there so seven and five in the night for ryan wins at plus 200 plus 144 and Plus 108 as well. So good calls by ryan on those fine ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w Our epl guest last week was austin cas check him out of twitter at austin cas Find his work over at fando research. He had lute in town total goes goals under zero and a half So basically to get shut out at minus 130 in the game against man city I had to think of there for a second man city. Yeah, I think anyway Um, they let up a goal and stop it or they scored a goal in stoppage time in the first half So they did get over zero and a half goals did lose the game eventually But uh, no win there on that one austin liked the tottenham money line at plus 110 and they cruise to win there They won that game four to one. So Good call by austin on that one final one was caro Or caro caro matoma to score our sister minus 105 matoma did not start that game But did sub in later on so the bets did stand um for most house rules And got subbed on late actually didn't help create a couple of chances and had a near goal But you couldn't quite get across uh the line there. So no in there one and two weeks for austin Hopefully you waited until matoma uh was announced not being in maybe you didn't bet that one as a result But either way one and two weeks for austin. We'll get him back here on friday Uh, so you did get again go forward over the previous week We'll get back on track on friday find austin on twitter at austin cast Finally for me slim profit this week uh four recommendations two and two But one of the wins was the bill's money line at plus 118 as they took on the chiefs Uh, again, thank you could areas tony appreciate it as always Got the win there and got the win on the browns minus one and a half minus 110 taking on the jags did close right there once again Once laurence's announces in so no pretty good about the recommendation where I was like, okay Lawrence may play but I do still like the baddie if he does Go and the browns won by four Despite trying to blow that game later on so those were the two wins two losses were bengals colt under 42 and a half Uh, they They went well over that I think it was 48. There's a final score there So in the market moved against me the wind speeds went up throughout the week or down throughout the week so Not the best process not the best results either and that one I deserved loss Didn't feel as deserving of a loss for the 49er seahawks. Uh, that game I had the over 46 and a half felt like that should have been Uh, in a pretty good spot had geno smith played and honestly, I felt pretty good about it throughout the first half But seahawks in the second half couldn't maintain the magic So, uh, I think 44 total points scored in that one. So under hits and a loss for me But two and two overall where they win a plus 118 So slight profit a few uneven units across all four of those recommendations That is all that we have here for today on covering the spread But we are back with you once again tomorrow. We're gonna get some uh, some non football thoughts here on the show Talking some the basketball and talking some hockey on the show tomorrow Big thank you once again to our guest ryan williams checking out on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w I am on twitter at jim sonnis. You can find me on threads at jim dot sonnis And you can find fan dual research on twitter at fan dual research Want to thank you all for tuning in for today. Good luck to you with whatever you're betting across this tuesday We'll talk to you once again tomorrow talk about some hoops and some hockey This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network