 The Astros go to Washington, DC the capital of the United States and they beat the nationals road teams win What's going on everybody? Welcome to another episode of talking to baseball. We are through three games of the world series of Major League Baseball and we have a series. It could have went up three To nothing and it would have been a bit of a bummer But it's two to one and now anything can happen the Astros come away with the victory like I thought they would Annie ball versus Grand Quay was kind of what we expected it to be in a way I think this episode is brought to you by our most recent Pate tree on supporters Derek Stevens Stephen Derrick's the odds of that are insane. Yeah be meeker Hunter Hawkins. Wow. It sounds like a stranger things thing Hawkins lab hunters in the woods Wow season four I think it might be that chance broussard Aaron Abling Benjamin Reed David Philippitch That's cool Jeremy R. 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It's banned together on this one So that's what's going on and literally the Denver news. They led with that. Geez But I'm doing well man, and I am excited you and I Drown on to my neighbor's house once at our core We are baseball fans and we did we wanted this to either be full-out shit pumping or a series It's essentially a full-blown series We're gonna get at least a game five and the best pitcher in baseball this year We'll be pitching for Houston in that game five and then if they can bring it back to Houston It'd be verland or so. I'm excited. It's a good series this game You're right like if you had to if you had to gun to your head guess a game script coming into this game You'd be like, okay, you know green key locks in pretty good Houston gets a couple hits against Danny ball and and it rides out from there and that's that's what it was Jew you know the way to San Jose calf West no, I was gonna say something else, but I forgot so I went with that Okay, what did you say before the that last thing you said? Oh I Don't know potential game script. Oh Routing oh, yeah, there's a game five what you said is there's gonna be a game five. Yeah How excited are you that that means there's gonna we're gonna get the sports equinox? The speak when ox speak when ox are you excited about that? No, it's very rare Jake No For anyone that doesn't know what that is It's when all four major American sports will be played on the same day very rare Football Sunday you got an MLB game. You got the NBA and you got NHL all in all playing official games that matter very rare if the if the Astros got swept we wouldn't have got it. Oh my god I got to turn off the fucking news dude on my news There's a late guy that just pushed a woman into a train. They just show that on the fucking news Dude the news is fucked up Update don't watch the news listen to podcast I was just sitting here talking to you about the sports equinox a fun sporting event and on my TV It was like a lunatic in the subway station who pushed a woman into a train Come on get out of here with that. You sure wasn't a commercial for that new movie coming out with the old people that are Still doing stuff. Have you seen that the good liar? No, it was news. It was a crazy guy Okay, well go see the good liar in McClellan. Oh, he's great. Anyways What are we talking about how excited you are for the sports equinox you probably you can finally get laid that parlay one game from each major sport Yeah, that actually is kind of fun for for the gamblers. No, man I was I was getting worked the first five innings just watching An incredible nicks come back with the world series never mind if you throw football and hockey on top of it Fine, you want to hear my behind the scenes. I had a big battle with Snyder pretzels, you know those Snyder pretzel bits that are like This one's honey mustard and and onion They are the most addicting thing in the world. So I kept them in the other room I just kept walking back and forth. So this is my last. Yeah, this is my last handful. This is my last handful Yeah, and told literally Good cardio literally until we started doing this podcast. I was going back and forth I guess we have to talk about the game eventually This was a long ass game Nationally game a lot of substitutions a lot of pen usage, right? How many pitchers pitched in this game? At least three Five on both sides. No five and six 11 pitchers got into this game And Jim we saw I mean in the Yankee series and and some of these other games we've seen I mean the teams doing bullpen days even some of the wild card games We've seen more pitchers used and I think they were shorter games But this one just had long at bats it felt like every at bat they'd go o2 Nibble for three pitches and then it's like here's the three to pitch every pitch felt like uh a judge at bat Besides rin don't he was swinging first pitch, but the astros had really got bats. He's trying to speed things up Yeah, he's a nice guy. Let's burn it. Let's listen to your burn And then we'll get into things and the talking points and the gameplay And all that you excited you got a burn Yeah, okay. Well first a word from a sponsor or two and then jake's burn All right, jake Lay it on us one two three burn Game three in the nation's capital is anna ball the animal sanchez And the gnats try to go up three games to none against houston Who hoped zack could be their green key to success top two like when your dog gets excited reddick RBI single one nothing stroze next inning michael scarn brantley raises things to threat level midnight with his rbi infield single Two nothing houston after three But those pesky gnats victor goes oladipo as robles hits an rbi triple one run game until retweet RBI single by brantley and then robin sincherinos robin sincherinos Says let's do something fun on this bachelorette party So he takes a pole dancing class one run home run off the pole Granky was solid the pen was better astronauts take game three to make it a two one series Do you know uh Do you know I I didn't know that the astros was short for astronauts I Knew for a guarantee that when I said astronauts at the end of that you were either going to tell your tale of how you found out Astronauts or be shocked that it was the astronauts when I we were doing the pregame show It is like it is i'm not We're positive that astros is short for astronauts Yeah, if you do all the hort houston sports team like the houston rockets Whoa Yeah, they're a big nasa town in the texans Well, that's okay Well, when uh, we were doing the yankees pregame show And I said what should I put on the bottom line and you said it should be none of the astros No one on houston is an astronaut Right, and I was like whoa, that's what that is. I never pieced it together Which makes me think what did I think astros meant and I just never thought about it as anything besides a baseball player If words sound good, you just accept it as a team and like houston astros. You're like, yeah, sure That's a great pot. That's great. Yeah, and I think I feel people used to link it because they had one of the more famous Astro turf fields So I feel like people kind of connected that mentally. There's a couple like fake connections, but yeah and nasa astronauts Dude blowing my mind man You're blowing my mind Sorry Ishkaba, that's a word Okay, that sounds good slippery slope You know what cracks me up the philadelphia fillies. That's one of the that's one of the most Funniest, what should we name killed it? Should we name the sports team from philly? Oh fucking fillies. Okay A lot of lazy teams. I mean imagine if it was the new york new yorkers New york mats You know that that would be like the texas texans houston texans. Yeah Metropolitan's Yeah, okay enough of that jake We're good. I just saw someone tweeted at me and someone said in the chat that like anibal was tipping his pitches Like last now was but I didn't notice that or anything, but i'm interested No, they talked about it on the broadcast. They said that grinky might be tipping his pitches with his grunts You can't say that to a grunt fast. I know, but that's what they were talking about You can't do that Ah doesn't make any sense anyway Jake Granky allowed 10 base runners in four and two-thirds and then he didn't push anything across Like he was he got out of it They didn't get any hits with runners in scoring position, but he got out of it. It was weird I mean he had seven hits and three walks He allowed 10 base runners in four and two-thirds I mean the difference in this game houston went four for 10 with runners in scoring position and the nationals went oh for 10 and it's It's kind of this sick game we play as fans where it's like oh The boys can't get it done with runners in scoring position. It's a game of odds numbers probability and statistics um, you know you're I'm you and I both aren't geeks Compliments to ourselves. We're not smart Um, but you have to understand There's going to be nights in baseball when you go one for 12 with runners in scoring position There's going to be nights where you go six for eight Uh tonight was one of those nights that they just couldn't get the hit that that kind of got the crowd into it And I know as you noted. I mean the the nationals best rally Uh was baby shark Yeah, baby shark's awesome. Well, the nationals had a chance To win this game on an out and I think this is the biggest talking point But I don't know I didn't watch any post games and uh, and I haven't talked to anyone. So it's my biggest talking point okay Anibal sanchez you have a runner on third base You have one out He's the tying run in the bottom of the fourth inning Granky's already come out. No, no, he hasn't but granky's out like 80 pitches I don't know what anibal anibal's pitch count was at But a fly ball ties the game Yeah And they roll the dice and they keep sanchez out there and he buns out I Won't kill him for that because I think it's too Hindsight 2020 but I think it's fair to say that if they did pinch it You could not kill them for that either. You could be like, well, you got to try to get that run in Yeah, it's It's a hindsight's 2020 right and also think about what you just said about grinky like They were getting a lot of action on the bases. Yeah, so at at this point of the game They were like, hey, we're getting our opportunities You know, we're we're a swing away from taking the lead and taking control of this game If if they knew that the bullpen was going to come in and shut them down this hard Yeah, I think they would have pinched it there and maybe go to tyson ross a little earlier who he looked pretty good Um, but yeah, I I don't know. I don't think you can fully play that game with the the playoffs that anibal sanchez has been having so far Um No, I I don't think you can take them out there Okay, I don't either. I wouldn't either the result sucks You you have to have faith that your team can score another run against cranky like we're saying and their bullpen and Your best chances of winning are with anibal keep pitching because he's better than your bullpen if you have to go Four plus innings with them. So I I agree with you Um, but I think there's a lot of people that will be saying, you know, you pinch it get that run and it's different Yeah, I mean there's there's a definite argument and I think it's uh In hindsight you'd you'd look you'd look right at it But you know that if they take anibal out then maybe the nationals bullpen gets rocked and they end up looking like fools Yeah, did cranky win you over this game at all? So I I've got a weird thing going on here. Um Because you'll you'll know this and the people that have been listening to talking baseball It he cracks me up to a degree Um, you know, we saw him earlier this season. There was a crazy Double play where the pitcher covered first and grinky looked incredible and he's like a gold glover. He's one He's won the silver slugger for for a pitcher He's this incredible baseball player But there's and it's his personality and you know, there's some stuff you can't joke about with it And there's anxiety and stuff but like it looks like this guy loves playing baseball But his dream is to play baseball with nobody watching It if there could not be a person in the stands no media know anything. That's his dream world And yeah, man, I I like him I'm I'm not a huge fan of the grunting when you have when you have mics that can really pick up on that That that gets old pretty quick. But no, I like grinky. I just think he's He's not the Zach grinky. He used to be was he grunting really loud tonight Not too too bad, but I don't think they have good grunt mic set up Like when when we when the Yankees played grinky, it was on the trade deadline and it was a day game And the crowd was a little more empty. Yeah, I mean that was intense. Yeah, I posted a video of it just cranky cranky grunts Granky Won me over today. And I I loved all the stuff that soto's been doing. I love the soto shop. I think it's entertainment, right I mean in two at bats cranky bested him With some fucking gusto and balls of his own Yeah, so the first one that i'm talking about he and phil hughes tweet mo like phil hughes tweeted this out Soto had a three one count and granky does like a very elaborate head shake like no not throwing that Can't throw that to him can't throw that to him And uh, it was it's like a fake shake off to make soto think he's shaking off the fastball Soto takes the fastball right down the middle three one And you can see soto like kind of like nod like oh, okay, fuck. Yeah, all right. Cool. You got me too. Shay old man Too shay and then granky gets him out and then later on He throws a ball soto does the soto shuffle squares him up stairs right at him and then he comes right up and in Doesn't hit him but knocks him back And I was like, okay, granky for a guy who like doesn't want anything You know cool speak for yourself on the mound. So granky kind of won me over He doesn't last long 95 pitches. He doesn't get out of the fifth but They lost the cold start they lost the verlander start they win the granky start so How about that? Yeah, I I mean, I'll give him credit. I mean his last last couple starts He's had a little bit been don't break but hey as long as you don't break kudos to you um And yeah, huge huge out by uh, james to come in the game Um, and he got I think that was zimmerman in that at bad. That was a fun one in this game But uh, yeah, man, granky did enough and hey kudos to this astros bullpen I I know coming into this playoffs Especially on the american league side and I think this is what skewed us a little bit, jim Is that the yankees have had an incredible bullpen. They build they build their team around that That was part of their formula Uh tampa bay They had a crazy bullpen. That's kind of part of their formula And that's been part of their formula that they'll basically go to any arm any time Um, even oakland when they were in the wildcard They were ready to bullpen that whole game if they needed to houston For everything else around their bullpen is so flashy. There's so many good guys in that lineup They have obviously the big guns starting pitchers that the bullpen gets overlooked, but their bullpen is good Um, you know the story about the astros bullpen coming into this series and last series was oh, they don't have a lefty It's like well You know what when joe smith throwing like that, he's pretty good Will harris is earning himself a lot of money Coming up this free agency and osuna has been really good for a while now and he's still super young Um, so they've got dudes and james probably has the most arm talent of any of those guys But it's just a matter of reeling it in so they've got a talented bullpen But it's compared to the other parts of their team. It's not as flashy Joe smith and I think we said this on the pregame show Which wasn't posted to the podcast app if you're listening on the podcast app But we did go live on youtube before this game So next time we do that. I don't know subscribe to the youtube channel and you can check us out I said like we were talking about who we liked and didn't like and We said we were pretty much indifferent on astros bullpen. Not that we dislike anyone, but whatever Joe smith, it's cool Yeah, he was the one guy before the game before the game. I was like, well, I like that guy I like what he's doing He comes in he strikes out a name you like what? He's got the kind of name you like basic Fundamental strikes out Zimmerman strikes out robles Gomes grounds out looked good. All right jake Braggman another old guy by the way, I don't know if a lot of people know josemus 35 and he's been doing He's been doing it well for a while Yeah, I've been saying 298 era. I've been saying the age Braggman goes 0 for 5 the top of the order springer gets two hits altuba gets two hits brandy gets two hits We have to go back to braggman intentional walk to brandy to get to braggman. That's what I was bringing up Altuba got hit by the pitch and hit his shirt and they were like now I just want to hit which I love altuba. That was awesome. And then uh Yeah, they intentionally walking brandy to get to braggman and then they just get him out It's tough series for braggman team wins. Fernando Rodney 42 years old Love rodney and I'm sorry like bullpen car Yes, I saw that obviously I saw that I mean that is that is phenomenal That might be why he's on the nationals They give pitchers the option. Would you like to run out to the mound or take the bullpen car? And I'd love to see fernando rodney's face I guarantee he doesn't answer with words He just looks at the bullpen car and they kind of are intimidated. They're like so the car and then he just walks in If the car's not there, there's a problem. Yeah I've got fernando rodney never talking I think he's kind of silly But dude, I I don't know and I I sent a kind of a cheeky tweet. Oh, probably some sound Some sour grapes from yankee season I saved it at the end a little bit because I spun it off off on baseball but dude I'm trying to think of any other mvp candidate that you would Potentially walk someone for To get to them Slumps are tough I mean, I mean, I don't think it takes away from his regular season mvp candidate But I get what you're saying you're not trying to diminish what he did in the regular season. You're just saying but It's it's so bizarre that he's being walked They're walking to get to him Yeah, and I I don't want to get into a whole like stature thing or anything like that, but I don't know. I think like that's part of it Like if I'm trying to picture some of the old great hitters that have like recent years I mean Miguel Cabrera's albert pool hulses guys like that like even if they were in a big slump You just don't walk the guy in front of them To get to them and I don't know maybe it's more so speaks to the depth of the houston team But I don't know. I I don't think you we've seen anything really like that Damn, dude Braggman's having a tough series What if they do it again and he doesn't come through again like what if that's the strategy now before they were pitching around him Because right uriel and alvarez were slumping so hard If now they're pitching around Brantley and the people in front of him to get to him. That's like a whole cycle of shit The old shit baseball shit cycle like they didn't give him anything to hit And now they're excited. Oh man. His his approach seems off. I don't know if you've listened to smolty talk Uh during bregman's at bats at all and by the way part of my smolty dislike that I that I'm finding out Is the problem is smolty always favors the pitcher because he's a pitcher He comes at it from pitchers point of view. So when your team's about to rally He always takes the pitcher side and you're just like come on dude like I can't do this. Um anyways Bregman he's talked about his approach the whole time and he says bregman until he gets two strikes. He just looks middle in And I I don't know enough. I haven't watched the full course of alex bregman's regular season at bats But call me crazy call me maybe That feels like a regular season approach If if you get a fastball you can handle that's on the outer half for strike one or strike two Maybe go with that yeah, I mean Anibal's first at bat he he went four high fastballs and In bregman took them all I think Two were balls two were strikes two to count then he drops a high Off-speed pitch that like floater pitch to butterfly And he swings and misses and I'm like they just worked all up in the count to bregman like what yeah It was pretty off like he wasn't animal. I think ball wasn't scared to throw any of those no And then that's not not to make this a rip on bregman because he was one of the best players in the game But fourth inning shot down the line uh And he he can't pick it and that was I I think that was my baseball that was a tough shot No, it was a tough play, but I'm telling you. I mean, what do you think? Like houston fans are saying they're probably looking at that and they're like regular season bregman gets that ball man I don't think so. I don't think he ever gets that ball. That was a fucking rocket Dude, how about wan soto bobbling that ball in left field? Forish any bobbled it. Well, I'm sure you're missing it, but dude it added Maybe one second Like one mississippi To like that's how long it added from yeah not getting it Initially to then running and getting it and that allows help to they to go to third Which then allows him to score on what should have been a ground out But they bobbled that play anyway, but if he's at second, he doesn't score It's so these the mistakes like it even though that was one added second Altuve took advantage of it And then it's an extra run and that ends up being the winning run in this game And it it was incredible it was incredible base running by altuve. It was all that was on his mind He knew he was going to round second base hard And if it was going to round second base hard if soto fielded cleanly He was going to plant his foot and turn back to the base if soto bobbled it He was going to go to third and soto Tough break and it shows just like it's a really sick sport The ball just hugs the wall which it never does so the ball is like hiding under the padding And just rolls past soto. So yeah, altuve got in there easily I thought there was a chance that altuve was going to try to score for a second Uh, just because he he kept his speed going and he's a little bit of a sick pup um But yeah, dude Someone found brandon toddman's yearbook Did you see this? No, I want to hear a senior quote brandon toddman's been fired by the astros for yelling at uh A woman who he had had tips with prior because she stands up for domestic violence and He didn't like that His senior yearbook quote is If you can't ignore an insult top it If you can't top it laugh it off And if you can't laugh it off, it's probably deserved Like that's Saying like It's just bizarre that his yearbook quote is like you deserve to be insulted if you can't find Humor in the insult What's what's the quote that I want anyone that looks at this That I grew up with for the rest of their life to remember me as Nailed it tobs now that's how the whole world knows you What a bizarre whatever that's just so funny that like someone someone probably had his yearbook It was like I wonder what its quote was and it's like oh my god It's talking about how people deserve to be insulted because they and that's what he did. Okay. Whenever that guy sucks Note the worst part of this postseason is Playing the what would this score be if we were playing with regular season balls Oh, why so are you convinced they're not regular season balls now? Oh, yeah, I was convinced since the Yankees game I just told you I needed to see more than like three games Um, I mean they're clearly different. It's yeah, it's it's almost bizarre and yeah I mean this game there is different points where I think it would have been like three two And then I mean even that turner Uh swing in the last inning. I don't know if that goes out, but it it either hits the wall or goes out regular season Um, it's just it's it's one of the weirdest things and I I mean it it brings out disappointment in me and baseball because it's I can't believe that the commissioner office would stand there and say like oh, we have no idea what's going on Oh, okay. Cool. I I truly don't think they know I think it's bad that they're negligent. I think I I believe there's a chance they don't know but I believe that's pathetic Yeah, it's negligent that like they have no idea what It's your sport. It's the main product of the sport But maybe this will help them get it in control the rest of the way. It's the name of the sport baseball It's the baseball That's interesting I what comes first the name of the sport or the name of the item like a basketball Was named because they played with baskets and then a ball And baseball is because they played with bases and a ball So I don't think the sport's named after the ball the ball is named after the sport I think I I think I disagree Well, it's called I'd have to I'd have to write it out in words And I don't think it's what anyone wants to hear run the bases That's an offseason episode If hockey was named the same way, what would it be called? ice net No, it'd be puck something Ice puck No, it'd be puck first Baseball as well puck net or no No, it'd be be ice ice puck. Yeah, the ice puck I mean, that's what I call it anyway. So I don't really see the difference. Yeah, but okay. Well, okay Well, okay, anything else that we need to talk about About this game before we move on to previewing game four Oh, we could do more Fernando Rodney. I forgot Matt Adams was on the nationals. He's big Um, how about Ross gave him two innings and not looking bad for the nationals in a losing effort two innings of one He uh, he gave up a couple that were hit pretty hard But he he looked good and the the manager said he believed in them. And yeah, that's that's kind of the national story That that's going to be the whole story for tomorrow And I know we're going to get there in a second, but the nationals didn't use any of their big bullpen guys Um and bullpen usage is one of the stories of this playoffs um Howie Kendrick got benched for us dribble cabrera because ass crabs had good numbers versus grinky and he gets uh He gets one of the bigger hits Howie Kendrick who ass crabs played for comes in and gets a pinch hit single So i'm sure talking gnats could have some debates on that if they want Uh tray turner and a big at bat, uh hit a ball off his balls What else? Yeah, that's fun. They didn't show replay of that. So that's that's ridiculous Eaton remains a pesky fuck going the other way with balls. I like that zero man has life flashed before his eyes It was very scary. I thought he was honestly hurt. I was like, oh shit Like what did he snap is he like, you know when you tweak your neck real fast and it hurts like it was like Did that happen to him? What happened the other thing that we should know I think he was I think he was being dramatic to try to get the Crowd in it if you look when he gets knocked down. He's on the ground He knocks his helmet off his head, but like very casually Like I think he was trying to spark the crowd a little bit and then when he saw the manager and the trainer coming out He's like, oh, I went too far. I thought He just didn't want anything by his head Because he's like thought he was going to get hit in the head and you just needed like his head to breathe Like, oh my god, okay, it's off me I need to be free Of things from ahead, but that was funny reddick made a really nice play in the corner I think the other thing we have to mention about this game That if you're a nationals fan listening if you're an astros fan listening The ump was atrocious Yeah And uh, joe tory puts the best up game three I mean for both sides. He just he wasn't calling that inside the lefties outside Outside and down or inside and down to lefties outside and down the righties spot and It's a pretty important spot Yeah, like yeah Probably one of the most thrown two spots an eyeball an eyeball goes down to oh an account that he could have been up O2 and that was when the astros got some of their runs. I'm forgetting what a bat that was I forget, but it was when an eyeball asked him like Where is it? No, he said the best the best pitching line you could say is that after if an up misses two pitches You say okay, where was that one? Yeah, yeah, it was the top of the fifth inning And it was a one one count and he calls there's two strikes thrown in a row two in one three in one And i'm so tired of the Well, he has to frame the pitches better Uh If if that's your argument like that shouldn't matter And that's an art That's an argument for robot umps and an electronic strike zone If the umpire is dependent on how the catcher catches it and not where it crosses the plate Then we're in trouble here because like where we're relying on Something that we shouldn't be relying on But yeah, that that changes that count from three one, which he eventually walked him to a strikeout Yeah, so I don't think I was bad. I didn't think he specifically favored one team But I thought he was bad all around so yeah, it wasn't great. I don't know. I think the takeaway Uh so it over and down got shut down for the most part In the top three in the astros lineup springer out to vei brantley Um, they get on base. I mean two for four two for five two for four With two walks in there. So they basically get on base at a 500 clip this game And the astros bullpen shoved Yeah Well, that brings us actually nicely into the preview because tomorrow is a bullpen day For the astros but first let's Take a quick break All right, jake they used a lot of the bullpen more than they probably wanted to Like we said, cranky didn't get past the fourth inning They do have your kitty Or kitty or whatever as the starter tomorrow So they've announced that and he said, you know, we did use a lot of guys, but we're just trying to get wins They they they used a lot of arms, but uh james only gets one out Peacock only gets one out and peacock is going to be a big plan for tomorrow. I believe um Harris probably not really available tomorrow unless they need to Smith is available I don't know if he's going to be part of their best reliever I don't know. Smith is there as soon as they're He he pitched the most today basically is what I'm saying. We'll we'll Harris, but we'll see And then I mean it's a bullpen day. You you know, you know how we did this with the Yankees, Jim bullpen day You start counting backwards I mean they're going okay final three Osuna Osuna Harris Smith And they're saying how do we get there and they're hoping to get Three out of her kitty Yeah, he threw 45 pitches against the Yankees 2.2 innings So, yeah, you're trying to get three out of her kitty. You're trying to get potentially two out of peacock if he's right Um James will be out there again in the wild card and I'm they actually did a good job. They mentioned this on the broadcast Presley man You got to go out there and try to give them an inning Um, well, yeah, I wonder if they can do it without them I mean they can but I mean it's it's cut in corners I mean, he's he's been bad jake yeah In this I mean he played one He had one outing in this world series already If he comes in That's the natch chance. He's got a 1.244 ops against this post season and a 18 0.90 era like he's been Rather bad has he Pitched an inning yet. He hasn't pitched a clean inning He hasn't he hasn't He hasn't gotten three outs in one game yet Yeah, and he's appeared in seven games 54.1 regular season innings to the tune of a two three two era six sport Seven games. He hasn't gotten three outs yet in the game. So I mean, I don't think I think he's Exiled. I don't know if he's going to be part of the plan. I would say they go Uh, or kitty for three peacock for two That's five. You get james for one Smith well that's like their best case out of those two guys two Yeah, okay. So let's so let's do let's give them four four innings. Okay, we give Jose or kitty and peacock four innings. You got james for one That's five You got joe smith for one. That's six harris for one. That's seven. Oh soon enough for one. That's eight So yeah, maybe you do You do need Either you can go harris for two you can go harris and smith for 1.1 and 1.2 There's ways for that to do it harris can't go to again. He could go one, but he can't go 1.2 again Okay, did he go 1.2 tonight? yeah So, I don't know. I mean they have ron don out there Um, well, I don't think they've used them when he's up, but I mean if you need a low pressure 4th inning or something like that Um, and it it kind of I I think what's going to be interesting tomorrow is is kind of reverse of today We were wondering when they were going to pull cranky Uh through his turn in the lineup The astros kind of are flexible If if they need if they need to pull the pitcher for a hitter at any time, they'll do it. Um, and it might be a great call they If I mean it could be after like One inning and they might be like fuck it. Hey, it's just it's the bottom of the or the top of the Third inning top of the second inning top two and they've got bases loaded no outs You're gonna really send the pitcher up there. I don't think so no outs. I maybe would but but one out I think you definitely pitch it for him And that's uh And it's kind of the reverse so for the nationals It's wens corbin because some of these lower leverage pitchers we're talking about for houston That could be your best chance to score But you're at risk of pulling corbin too early. So that's going to be the game of chicken for washington Uh houston. Yeah, that's kind of a really fun thing. I uh minority video game I used I still play out of the park baseball Um, there's a world where I basically try to simulation where if you were a national league team And like you only had your pitchers go two three innings and you had a pinch hitter every time Because you're basically you're upgrading you're hitting and almost you're pitching to a degree It kind of worked it got really tedious and I quit like I do with most things I was interested It's a good theory right you need a deep bench You need a deep bench and you need versatile arms Yeah Yeah, uh, who do you who do you think's gonna win? I think the nats will win this a rod had a hot take. He said uh Whoever wins tomorrow wins the world series That was my take before the game you said that about this game No, I said that about tomorrow's game. I said I wanted to say it about this game But I said if houston won today tomorrow's game is the winner Oh, I thought you said it about today's game No, I said I wanted I thought you have I thought you have houston winning the world series now If they win tomorrow, okay Probably I agree with that. I don't care. I don't know I think nationals will win tomorrow. I don't think they lose two in a row at home Now corbin versus a bullpen day a lot of stuff doesn't add up Yeah, I don't I hey their bullpen day didn't add up in our head versus the Yankees and they they went out in one um I mean, it's kind of getting the clutch hits attacking early. We we've seen pretty much every playoff game Uh have a lot determined by that and Yeah, I don't know. I mean the pressure Is on washington because if they don't win tomorrow's game You got coal and verlander waiting and it's like, uh, it's like a bizarro hell you just wound up in That that would be a fun event if like You have to face those guys again And like talk like coal and verlander are just fucking itching to redeem themselves And then they come out and just like shut them down like That would be kind of cool And hey, you know the we've talked about this houston bad guy persona, which has been multiplied by an actual bad guy We originally were talking about houston becoming the bad guy because if you're good for long enough just a lot of people start to dislike your team golden state uh and I tell you what no, it's the ultimate bad guy move Looking like you're hurt and then showing up for game five with your bad dudes again saying uh, oh We could close this out now if we want Yeah, so I don't know tomorrow's gonna be really exciting and the game's at uh, noon, which is crazy What was that tomorrow's game make sure you're ready. It's at noon noon game The old noon world series game on saturday. They decided they wanted to compete with the early college football games Got to beat somebody That's wow, dave martinez Oh Speaking of games at eight o'clock speaking of dave martinez Fox making him do an interview when yeah when he's got When he's got the opposing team has a runner on third with less than with no outs And a one run ballgame and he's managing the game Yeah Fox audible like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, no one cares about those interviews anyway I can't believe there's still a thing that seems like some trial and error type shit Where they would have done it for two years and then realized. Oh these aren't a value. I think people like them I think you don't like them. Do you like them? Yeah, they're talking to the manager during the game You don't get anything from them Uh, sometimes you do most of the time you don't but that's like any sports interview Yeah So like why need to do it when they're in between innings and they show it to you a little delayed I like I don't mind that making them do it while the game's being played is ridiculous Yeah, I guess that is fair. I the the delay between innings Shouldn't like that's that's fine That's fine. You don't need to do it While there's guys on base and you saw buck try to get out of there Because because he probably was like this sucks. I don't want to do this Yeah Yeah, that was dumb. Don't do that Anyway, Corbin versus Hyakiti and the bullpen day. I got the gnats winning tomorrow going up three to one Are you rooting astros just because that's more fun? I'm rooting like astros would be more fun I agree with that but I just feel oh, I don't know if that's necessarily true I think houston houston winning tomorrow might be less fun. Why is that? Because I mean you still got coal and verlander coming with their backs against the wall But isn't the astros winning tomorrow gives us a better chance of a game seven, which is the most fun I think I disagree I think the bad man are ready to go Like I I think depending tomorrow's result. It's either houston in six or gnats in seven So if the astros win you have gnats in seven No So if the gnats win I have gnats in seven Okay And if the astros win you think it's a six game series Yep, I think the bad men are ready to go. Wow Interesting kind of just have to wrap my brain around it Saw it saw it live. Yeah, trying to figure it out. Well, well, guess we'll wait and see All right. Thanks for hanging out with the guy. Thanks for Be a good game, right? Be a good game That's what we're rooting for Thanks for hanging out with us. We appreciate it. We'll see you sunday morning. We'll be reviewing Game four and previewing game five. Thanks for hanging out with us again All i'm gonna say for us in my life, I guess