 Can I have it, just because I can't have both up on my computer. Okay, thank you. I got two. You got two. Okay. There's no one here. Okay. So, call to order at 737. Reception of guests. Nobody present. Missing Stephen, but I'm pretty sure he's at the 3-2 meeting. Any agenda revisions? Yeah, we're going to add the local board authorization. Yeah, so I just got guidance from Bill as I was coming here and from Laura. And said that they're going to take a chance. And we're not going to do the blanket authorization to not sign it. And if they need it, they're going to ask us to come in and sign. Okay. So we aren't going to send a resume. So we're not going to have to. We're going to hope that they don't need to run a check. Okay. Exactly. We're going to hope that they don't need to. And we'll just do a one-off warrant if we have to. Exactly. Fair. Okay. So we'll just go as. That doesn't make sense. Yeah, I think we'll just go. That would be one less thing that we're different from everybody. But it's a one less thing. Okay. So no other agenda revisions. Public comments or correspondence? In the absence of the public, I'm going to say there's none. Yeah, there's nobody here. Can I have a motion to approve the minutes of May 20, 2018? I'll make the motion to approve the minutes of May 20, 2019. Seconded. There is the second by Ruben. Any discussion on the minutes? Nothing? Okay. All those in favor of approving the minutes as submitted? As submitted, please say aye. Aye. All right. Any opposed? Okay. There we go. And 3.0 discussion agenda. Capital transfer. So let's go back to the big packet. And page 33. It's enormous. It's enormous. 27. 27. 27. Yeah. 27. Yeah. So. So what I'm not sure of is whether we're supposed to be acting on the figures that are on page 22. Weird. Or on page 20. So did I understand this right? I thought that we were not going to act in either of the figures because these are all projections to give us an idea of where it is. And what we're, we can talk about the numbers right now to make sure that we are all understanding it. But all we're doing is what Lily just said to approve the capital transfer from the fund balance in nexus of 2% of the budget. Right? As of June 30th. So we're not at June 30th yet. So it could change slightly. Got it. Because we have some expenses. We haven't totally closed the books yet. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So approving the 2% is what our task is to decide on approving the 2%. Capital transfer. No, transfer to capital from the fund balance. 2%. To transfer. Yeah. In excess of 2%. In excess. In excess of 2%. Yeah. Okay. I'm not sure I'm getting this wording right. I have a note here. So our task is to decide on approving the 2%. No. This is the way I had it too. Okay, say it. Approved capital transfer from the fund balance. Okay. In excess of 2%. I'd say that is in excess. That is in excess of 2% of the budget. V1. V2. V3. V4. V4. V4. V4. V5. V6. V6. V6. V7. V6. V6. V1. V1. The now to transfer from, Sorry. Where were you? Approved the capital transfer from... The fund balance. Okay. To the... In asset, In excess of 2% of budget as of June 30th? Okay. And we are transferring funds to the capital fund. Yes. So approved capital transfer from the fund balance. So should we reverse that? That's the way to balance. From funds to general fund? It's not from fund balance to capital. To capital. So it's not a capital trend. I mean, it technically is a capital transfer. But to approve the transfer of funds in excess of 2% from fund balance to the capital fund. Funds in excess of 2% to the capital. Capital fund from capital. Yeah, I was using the capital transfer of funds in excess of 2% to the capital fund from fund balance. Correct? Yeah, as long as you have that in excess of 2%. I just wanted to get what funds we're going to wear. As of June 30th. Correct. We'll default to the WCU, US, whatever. No, the 2% will go to us. No, no, no, the 2% goes to the rest is going to go to us. Right, OK. That's what I was trying to say. So can I put this down that Reuben made that motion? Sure. Because I think I've typed. Typed it 16 times. Reuben motion to, now see if I've got this right, approve transfer of funds in excess of 2% to the capital fund from fund balance as of June 30th, 2019. Yeah. Funds in excess of, OK. So in theory, what we're saying is that 2% is going to go to the consolidated schools. And everything in excess is going to come to our capital fund. And normally, we maintain a much higher reserve, which is the 4 or 4 and 1 half percent. Right, but this is because of the WC. Because this is the transfer of all of these accounts across into the new piece. We want to pull those, we're basically maximizing our capital fund that's in our account. No, I'm confused now. No, we are keeping as much money as we can. We're transferring 2% not to capital, not to the bank. Correct, no, the 2% normally we have an operating pad of 4 or 4 and 1 half percent, right? But we're trimming that down to 2% and we're taking that extra money and we're putting it in the capital fund so that when all of the accounts transfer across, they're in that state. That's what we're trying to do here. I just want to make sure that our language is clear. Those funds that are not in the general operating account have to follow the school, where funds that are in the general operating account go into the unified union district budget and just sort of go into the pie. So should we be more specific and say? It is our meeting, but it's still say, well the transfer of these funds in excess of 2% to the East Montpelier capital fund. Well we only have, we don't have any authority over any other capital fund. It's by definition this board is talking about the East Montpelier capital fund. To the capital fund from fund balance. We have no authority over the unified. Yeah, and it's in excess of 2% of the June 30th balance. I shouldn't have June 30th at the end, 2%. As of June 30th. So what we were saying is that this is a point in time. We want, this action takes a snapshot on June 30th of where the money is at. And it says any funds that are in excess of 2% Go to our capital fund. Shall be moved to the capital fund, which means that at midnight on June 30th when the unified district starts operating and takes over the auspices of all of our accounts, that we have done that transfer of funds across. That's, we've sort of set that point in time, that point in time, that snapshot. So we have, and just for our discussion in case anybody's watching. We need a second. Oh yeah. I can second it. Second it, second it. Okay, I'm a bit too darsy. So. Darsy's seconded. So we're, you know, and we're going back and forth into their action agenda, but it's fine. So right now projected as project available funds is 166,436. That would get added to our already 700 and some and the other monies that go in there to make whatever it's. And then after the summer, it's like $900,000 or something or $800,000 until that's at page 22. Does 70,000 on page 23, is that what we're? Oh, I'm in Berlin. Sorry. So I'm page 27. And then the other one is on. Do they need to put any numbers in these notes? No, no, no, no, I just, I'm just trying to. As of June 30. Right. Yeah, this is. Okay, I'll go up and down a little bit. Yeah. Right, no, we specifically don't want to put numbers because we don't know what they're gonna do. Where is that consolidated page of all the schools? It was here. 22, I don't know. Yeah, 22. 22, oh, 22 was those big numbers. Yeah. I think it's worth noting that out of all of the schools, after all of these funds and transfers and everything else are done, this is the bottom of this chart on page 22. At the end of the summer, we're gonna have $894,518 in capital improvement, in capital fund carved aside for our school, which is more than, it's more than twice that anybody else has. I don't think we want to put that. Just, I think it's part and parcel of the commitment that this board made before the bond was passed, was that moving forward, we would take responsible fiscal control of this school. That we will continue contributing to the capital fund. That we, I think this is a $894,000 point in time that says we have done that. And we followed through on the commitment that we made. And I think it's just worth noting that at this sort of point in time, this inflection point is things transfer to the new board. It also points out that as we move together in the unified board, we need to change this because they're especially looking at what could be coming from starting to middle school. Well, they're using their capital, remember at the beginning, they had a million dollars, but they're spending a million dollars on the track this year. So they are depleting their capital fund, but not down to nothing. So, I mean, that's sort of what a capital. Yeah, the care of this building is gonna be. And they have taken care of it since the renovation. 20 years ago, this building looks really nice. You don't see leaking ceilings and things. They've done a nice job. Yeah, this is not a, I don't think we wanna make an indictment of anybody. I think this is just a minor celebration of the good work that this board has done over the past six years. So, I'm gonna jump into the action here. Oh, sorry, I mean the wrong part. So I'm moving to the action, yes. But if I point one and you made a motion. Yeah, we have a motion in the second. All those in favor of approving the motion? Aye. Aye. Okay, passed unanimously. Thank you, Stephen. And then that's the end of that discussion. Reports to the board. They're in the packet. And they're in the packet. I don't have any questions. Alicia said that we could call her. We had any questions, but I think she should just do what she's doing right now. Yeah, she should. It was pretty clear, and we had a good meeting at the last meeting, so we were pretty clear. The same with fiscal, we know where we are. Question. And then the board orders, let me pass that around. Yeah, do that. It's just. Are you in skip number? Yeah, I'll go back to that. I'm just gonna give that here. So now, so 5.1, and then approve the resolution for transfer of property page four. So, do people want a minute to read the resolution? Basically just transferring the property to the new district. This also is taking care of one of their articles of agreement. So, should we make a motion to approve it so we can discuss it first? Definitely, that's what we should do, yeah. Yeah, okay. So, I'll make a motion to approve the resolution for property transfer. Let's see, can I have a second? Second. Okay, any discussion, any questions? Well, I guess I will say that I'm not sure I want to be the only board that approves the resolution. I mean, I don't know how much this ties us to. So, I can see two sides to this issue. And I, because I own a commercial building that I have effectively read to myself, but. Preface this by saying I am neither a attorney or an insurance agent. But, so this is my sort of, this is my pro to this, that I'm going to buffer in a minute. It's likely that unless you have an insurable interest in something, you can't insure it. So, we can insure, we can have a general liability, we can have, you know, if you slip and fall and all of that. But unless the Unified District Board owns it, I think there's a reasonable question as to whether they can insure the physical property. But I thought they said that it transfers based on the articles anyways. So, that brings me to my con, which is that there are really significant questions that I have that I wouldn't need answers to before I felt comfortable transferring a multi-million dollar asset. I'm not comfortable transferring a multi-million dollar asset without having a lot more information about what this means, whether by statute we as a board need to get a voter approval to do this, whether I would feel, I mean here, I guess my position, my concern is if this is going to happen by statute, which it sounds like it might, then no action is needed by us. And if action is needed by us, then I feel like I want a little more guidance before I just sign off on handing an entire piece of real estate over. I have no qualms about transferring it to the district, but I'm a little detail-oriented and I feel like there's some details missing in this. About the resolution. About the resolution and the transaction and what that looks like, and this feels really casual for the transfer of a multi-million dollar asset to me. They're public buildings, so I think this came out of the blue might not be the right term, but I don't think we have enough information. And so I think what I'm saying, what I believe is we need more information in order to make an educated vote. So that brings it, in my opinion, that brings a process question. Do we table it without having an approach and meeting, or do we vote it down with the potential of revisiting it if we find that we need to? I don't know, I'm really contangling it. But how do you table something and then we bring it back? I would actually not. I mean, technically we have one more meeting that we have to have in December. Oh, so. Yeah, but we are. For the audit. For the audit, so we could table it and vote it down. What I'm more worried about is the question that I was, I just didn't want to extend it, but David, Kelly, what I'm more worried about is that we, we already asked that Unified Board decided to table at our last meeting, transferring all the properties. As Unified, it came to us too, as, so we were waiting until the budget passes. It was like two, what was it, two to eight, or, I can't even remember. So what I'm worried about is that in some ways, this is more information that we are actually getting from the article of agreement. It, from what it means to transfer the property. So if we are following the law and we're supposed to transfer the property, regardless for a dollar, it's the whole day. You'll do it with the article of agreement set in, to me in essence, this at least says a little bit more that it's because the articles of agreement are telling us that this is what, that this is what we needed to do. So we don't know the article, well, is that article one that's being voted on? No, no, no. No, it's not one of the articles that is being voted on the. So what I'm worried is sort of where you were coming from too. So like, if all of us decide not to transfer property, I, we cease to exist. Our district doesn't exist as of June 30th. So who's taking care of me? We exist until December 30th when we approve the fiscal. But we have no, our only power is to proceed the audit. Okay. But then there's the statute. And I will confess that I had not read this as carefully as I am reading it right now. The letter? The resolution. Yeah. Because to me, I'm not. So this resolution says very clearly that we are doing this in order to be compliant with the law. With the law. With chapter verse section, subsection. Whereas the East Montpelier Town School District Board of Directors is formal, is required to formally dissolve the district, transfer the real and personal property of the East Montpelier Town School District to the WCUUSD and merge with the WCUUSD by virtue of the terms and conditions of the decision and order. Whereas the district board, which is us, is required to ratify and confirm the transfer of assets. So that being said, if something transpires, whereupon we are no longer required, then I think this resolution could be argued, could be undone, right? Because of one of the terms of this resolution, and I apologize for being unprepared, but it looks like, to me, one of the terms of this resolution is that we're required to do it. And so if that term was to go away by order of the Supreme Court or some other unlikely eventuality, I mean, if that was to come to pass, it's gonna be, this will be just one of the million messes that will need a mop and bucket to clean them up. And I'm not, no lawyer, I'm not trying to force us to like head in one direction, but I also, we've been very clear in leading, and if this, the injunction or whatever they're gonna talk about tomorrow, I guess, they were saying there's something is coming out tomorrow from the Lilo case from George Mello. So if that change, this would not be valid. But we're not gonna do that. Okay, so let me ask this. All right, that's all. If we take no action tonight, we have about two weeks before we're officially dissolved as a board. We could call a special meeting and we could take the required action. I would like to know. In that two weeks, I think we will all know a lot more about what exactly this resolution is and ensure that we are legally bound to do this. If we're legally bound to do this, I am completely comfortable with doing it. If this is voluntary, then my detail-oriented self is gonna wanna stick my nose in it and figure it all out. So, right, because I don't see anything here that says if the merger is undone by the courts, that the asset transfers back. No, I think it doesn't say that explicitly. I think I'm so far out of my swim lane from a legal perspective, because I'm not a lawyer. But if my reading of this, I think one could infer that if we were no longer required to do that because something came in and stopped all of this, I think this may be just immediately nullified. And that's up for people way above my pay grade to figure out. But that is a position that, if we have followed the letter of the law as we understand it, and I think there's a little vagary there right now. And I, right, it's the 17th. Yeah, so it means that we have to meet. I think the worst case we find out that we absolutely have to do this, I think the likelihood is that we find out that we absolutely have to do this and we have to call a special meeting. Yeah, so. And I know none of us want another meeting. Well, I'd rather do that than make a vote on something I'm not informed well enough on. That's sort of what I feel. Yeah, good for that too. Okay, so can you guys look at your calendar? It's a really quickly. This is, I'm back in town last week in June. No, that's the week I'm going. Yeah, that's what I was going to do. I'm back that Thursday night. The 27th? You'd be late. How long does it take to get from Booth Bay Harbor back here? Booth Bay. What time are we going? Well, we don't have to have all of us. We only need three. Yeah, but then there wouldn't be any discussion. I'm here all that week without kids. So we're at early just because I don't know what they need to do. So here's two things that I would like to propose. One, to reserve maybe that Friday, like really early morning. The 28th? The 28th. Just in case this needs to be, because the 30th. I have a meeting at eight o'clock on the 28th. Oh, I have a doctor's appointment. I have a meeting until like 12 o'clock. And I have a nine and a 10. Could we do it at seven? Is that too early? Good God. Yeah, or before the day is over. What I'm trying to do is give it to them before. I can do it. Before some day, that is, if there's something, then you know what I mean? It's Friday already. So one o'clock in the afternoon? I can do, I can do that. Would you be out of your appointment? I'd be out of my, yeah. Mine's a doctor's appointment. It's my summer school planning day with teachers. It's supposed to go till one. So what about 130? 130 would be perfect. Okay. And you could even do a VF phone. I could. And stop by the central office and sign. But then you would be there. But I could get over here at 130. Even if I had to go back to Berry, that's not a big deal. So special meeting. I'm just doing a special meeting possibility. It's four and a half hours. Well, not possibility. We're tabling this. So we have to have a special meeting if this is required, right? So. We have to have a special meeting too. I think close it no matter what. No matter what. Correct. Yeah. So we are tabling this discussion until. We're tabling. So they. So 28th or 1.30 PM. Yeah. Is there any rejection to that? 28th. So just as procedure process, we had a. Darcy. Darcy had a motion to second it. And we're just going to table. We decided to do action. No action taken. Correct. And then did the board. Oh, did I hard the board orders? I thought I passed them. Yeah, yeah. I'll make a motion to approve the board orders in the amount of $39,433. $39,433.42. $39,433.42. That sounds like it that. $49,433.42. Yeah. Just double check right there. Oh, it's right there. And then did you write that date for the possible meeting? Yes, I did. OK. Who's going to second the board orders? I will. OK. All those in favor of approving the board orders? Aye. Aye. Aye. Yeah. OK. Any other comments or? I think we need to get word out to our folks that they need to vote. Yes. And support the budget. Yeah. And I think it's appropriate for you guys too. I already made a post. Linden was there. I'm going to do a post. But it's simply we've had WCUUSD suggestions from our board chair. And they were too much detail. What we need to do is say, and what I plan to do is put on front porch forum, the vote is next Tuesday. It's imperative that voting, that people registered to vote in East Montpelier do it now or on that day to support our schools and make sure that we have finances before. To have an operating budget. Yes. Yeah. This is the same amount. I mean, money is put together with what every other town voted for. And just to keep the tone really positive and ask them to talk to their friends across town. Spread the word. It's important we vote. Yeah. And there's a lot of information out there for you guys to know about taking. Ticker on my wall. Yeah. So I'll forward, because it's public information, I'll forward you guys the guidance from the AOE and what happens if we don't have a budget, because it's very specific. We pretty much have no money. We do, but it's a major project. And so that we can mobilize and keep it positive. Yes. And there's a lot of resentment, I guess, in East Montpelier. There's a lot of information that is going on that talks a lot about how we get two years really. Dwayne, it's just not about the debt. And it's not about the debt. So we need to keep the debt out. Right. This is nothing to do with the debt. That was an act 46 thing that was put forward. This is about the money we've already approved in order to run our schools. Every town's approved it. It's been put into one budget to be used. And that's what we're voting on. And that's why I'm not going to mention that. Every single budget passed. This is a roll-up of all of the budgets that we have already passed so that the new board can open the school. OK. I'll go report to Krista. So we'll adjourn at 8.10.