 I seal the breakfast in Plosive, Africa. Many thanks for staying with us. We'll be joined by Tunde Kuala Walay, his illegal practitioner as we make sense of the headlines this morning. Tunde, thank you for joining us. Tunde Kuala Walay. All right then. Good. Let's quickly take a look at the leadership newspaper this morning and see what the leadership talks about. Our stand, security, led by the United States Embassy, who gains, more like an editorial, and you find PMB shocks finance minister and backs a manfully on Nair redesign. A lot of people, I can't wait to show your thoughts, Tunde Kuala Walay, on this one, because we have some persons who are saying there seem to be a disconnect even in the system of governance. You have a minister who was appointed by, you know, the president himself, and he feels like the president, the minister, the central bank of Nigeria to not in sync. Away from that, 2023, Fennifera backtracks and DOS is to Nubu. I remember the conversation that we had, particularly I had, you know, on this platform, where we had one of the stakeholders of the Fennifera speaking with us saying, they have an endorsed Peter Obie and my big question was, does that represent the interests of the entire Southwest? But this is what it is. 60 killed in Indian bridge collapse from a vice president, I bear your pardon, vice president, ex-Columbian president, A FDB, lead a new job creation effort. That's also what the leadership caption said this morning, and that's it. On the leadership, we quickly turn our attention to the punch. On the punch, CBN destroys over 6 trillion bank notes on the Buhari. Very bold. We have several riders. Apex Bank spends 3.88 billion narrow to dispose mutilated bank notes in five years. Narrow slums to 785 per dollar reserves deep. Local currency faces more pressure. I mean, that's what I talked about. 85. You had some persons were saying 85. All the quarters were saying 800. President defends MFLE as criticism mounts against narrow redesign. The riders you find underneath the caption. Legosi Badon Express Student Fund raise ransom. Kidnap maids released. Buhari to meet security chiefs postponed events. Soldiers killed terrorists in Kaduna. Terror bombings. Somali to fly critical injured victims abroad. And death toll now 104. Countries condemn attack of Buhari. Pope Audisman 161 soul stampede victims. Very unfortunate incident. A deban joins Cistern, Obi, as you have the FNFRI backs. Very interesting. Moving away from that oil earnings. Crashed by 288 billionaire in the third quarter. That's what the federal government is saying. Poison chief Imam says I hate marriage. Really bad. Props AGF Malamiz ministry over 2.2 billionaire expenditure. That's how much we can take this morning. And a punch newspaper. Away from the punch we have the daily truss. CBN has my backing for redesigning. Narrow notes. President Mohammed Buhari is quoted to say. Says currency will benefit from initiative. People with illicit money buried under the soil will have to will have a challenge. A president comment put semaphily in finance minister's rift to rest. And just before moving away from that. This might just be dominating all of the papers. The socio-political group talking about the FNFRI leaders. Macking the others. All firms pay 138 billionaire petroleum tax. Buhari holds emergency security meeting today. We have had several of this. Niger's flamingos edge Germany for the first ever World Cup medal. This is really brilliant. We just hope that the girls would have be on top of it. But they were very fantastic. We must really celebrate them. Ganduja launches mass transit scheme with 100 bosses and 50 taxes. Abudra rail to resume operations soon as minister meets contractors. These some of the headlines you find on the daily trust. And adjust the daily sun before we have Tunde Kola Wale join the conversation this morning. Abudra resident leave in fear and tight security. This reminds me of a conversation with some people who are leaving in fear. But not necessarily because a lot of orders in Abudra seem to be going about their businesses and having a great time. Worship centers record lower tendons. Government stops Abudra vigilantes from bearing arms or fire arms riders underneath the caption. And southeast. Governors raises alarm over insecurity. Government intervention. Joint security team to patrol zone once political solution to Kano. And you find Tunebu, Attiku or be others acts to publish source of campaign funding. Wicked coalition dare are you to stop or tum others. 2023 Attiku more grounded in grassroot politics than Tunebu PDP national youth leader is quoted to say. Vice President Yemo Shiba Joe ex-Columbian president A F D B lead a new job creation efforts in Africa. O'Hanei's a backs a curidolu on Amotecum. Orders or shouldn't governor elect to include Igbo in government. Legos transporters begin seven days strike today. Say no going back. It's going to be a lot. Niger defeats Germany to claim the bronze in under 17 women's world cup. Congratulations to the flamingos and congratulations to Nigeria. Well, that's it this morning. Tunde color. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Let's have you share thoughts. So I'll leave it very open to you because the headlines are really interesting. I'd like to share your thoughts, which of them caught your interest as we went through the pages this morning. Well, maybe the French owner would like to comment on what about this? The design of the Naira, which is causing a lot of rumpus all over the country. The moon talks, you know, that come out openly. The game that we've done in home bulletina to say that she was not consulted before the CDM proceeded to design the Naira. The president, like you have also read and said, look, the governor of the CDM has my back in the processes of designing the design of the Naira. And of course, the CDM, too, has been defending the actions that they have taken when designing the Naira. But the truth of the matter is that when we look at the law, the CDM Established Act, it gives the CDM a lot of powers to manage the monetary processes, the monetary activities of the country, either in terms of production, either in terms of curtailing inflation, either in terms of ensuring that the Naira is not appeased, either in terms of forced testing, those who hold the Naira or those who carry out illegal activities with it. But the question you want to ask yourself is, is it good with us when you want to redesign the Naira, that you will not carry the means of finance? Who also has a role to play in some of these issues that you have talked about? Or let's say, for example, a place like Betel. Can the Prime Minister of Betel, and then maybe the governor of the H.E.K.K. in the CDM governor, carry out the designation of the past talent without carrying the chanting of H.E.K.K. and coming along? The answer is no. If you want to redesign the Naira, you don't want it to leak out, so as to be able to achieve whatever results you want to achieve. That is to mop up, or make sure, or render useful all the excess money on Naira in the pockets of people, in the terms of their own, under the ground that they might have buried their daughter. All you need is to do to hold the top secret meeting with all the relevant people who also know before you carry this out. And so, the kind of contributions, the kind of debates, the kind of conflict that will happen between government officials will not be there. And when you also look at the CDM establishment now, before you think of the Naira will turn the money for that matter, the public ought to be carried along. You have to educate them on the reason why you are doing it. You also have to educate them on the improvement that you are bringing into the Naira. You also have to educate them on why you are taking the action. Because some people have legitimately earned their money, and for this investment to them, they may not be keeping the CDM. You don't design the Naira and allow such legitimately earned money to turn to dust, to turn to waste, to turn to ordinary paper in their hands. I need you to ask yourself, how many times are countries in the world who are about designing their currency? The part only has been there for so long. They don't have been there for so long. They only create more money, or maybe improve the polymer text for people to make it more durable. But here, the Naira of our currency is used as a political instrument, which is not too good for us. And remember, we have done this before. When President Buhari was in the United States in an attempt to falsify the politicians who have stopped a lot of cash at home, he woke up overnight and changed the Naira. But he didn't have the effect he had intended. No! Mostly to get this lost money, who are robbed with lots of goods for them in their disposal. Don't keep them in Naira because they know the Naira is not stable. This has been passed and this has been stolen. So immediately they steal the money or they get some money from the businesses of it, like drugs and other. They change this to the dollar and keep it in dollar or in France, Italy, or in Europe because they know those currencies are stable. Sometimes they are never changed for 10, 10, 30 years and what are they? So when the falsifying has been done, they do not work. So what gives President Buhari the impression that he doesn't work this time around? What determine the set of the nation's currency is economy productivity. Secondly, the political class in the international community. And then maybe thirdly, the prudency that will bring into all of this is a dollar. For us, what are we positioning the country to do? Nothing. It is a great economy which is just taken from petroleum and products and then begin to spend it and not be able to. That petroleum prudence that we rely on is no longer doing well as it used to do. Even when Russia and Ukraine are fighting, another country of the world are making windfalls from the sales of petroleum prudence, from the sales of gas. Nigeria is the opposite of what is happening in the world market. I mean, I would say with all importance that it is just to design the mirage without calling people and long and for whatever purpose they say they want, they are designing it that it should be difficult for example to fund this and all that to begin to to get the kind of money that they are getting. When you are nice, when they find the thing that gets the dollar they take it to the black market and take it to the dollar because most of the spending that they do in Bayhams and Amnesia and all that I mean to reach the attack in the States is procuring the dollar. I am not even speaking. This is not a well thought out at all. It is also not to have the dollar. This clicker is going to die. Six or seven months to hand over to the new government. They should have allowed the new government to buy in 2012. We will deny that. So, you are saying that we are going to witness the demand, more demand for the dollar with the decision of the CBN to redesign. That is what you are saying. Absolutely. I think we are going to have it. There is going to be a lot of more pressure on the dollar because wherever I come in now we will quickly go to the black market and we will wait for the money to change it to the dollar for the dollar. All right. Let's move away from that. Look at the punch newspaper this morning and this same caption is dominating all of the papers. It talks about the epheneferi prior to now and we also remember that the epheneferi said that we are endorsing a background on that particular statement where they are endorsing. This was not just hearsay where you could see videos and pictures to that particular effect endorsing the person or the candidacy of Bola Matinibu. Your thoughts entirely on this? Let me say this in terms of education. The epheneferi that we know or that we know between 1999 I mean between 1993 and year 2019 is different from the epheneferi that we do have to pay and the tragedy of it all we know what has gone on with the epheneferi you will remember that the epheneferi people were instrumental in ensuring or in making sure that the epheneferi people became the governor of Ligustiv. From the information that we got when the first conductor of the primary I mean when primary was conducted between Nansu Aditi Nogu and then the later Funchal Williams and Noda it was the late Williams that won that the primaries the one we had that was done is after the epheneferi were conducted it was agreed that we are ever in any polling station in any polling booths or anywhere where the primaries are carried out as we have to select the first pair of the AP the election in those places are going to be counted so somebody sponsored a crisis and fight in the stronghold of of Funchal Williams and so when the elections are concluded nobody raised the issue that there were fights here there were fights in these other places we have from Funchal Williams and because of that the votes in those places were cancelled and at the end of the day Pashu Adibola met Nogu and Magikas they flagged Pierre out when we returned to Sibu and then immediately became the governor one of the first things is bigger the epheneferi people if polarized if I had a time there were two epheneferi in the country there was the new epheneferi there was the original epheneferi and there was another epheneferi who were also calling themselves epheneferi at Lola the truth of the matter is epheneferi has been polarized and I see why Dukuz decided to have a hand in the polarization of that situation simply because he wants to dominate the country he doesn't want a situation in which I mean especially in the people if they are able to dictate something or influence the cause of action he wants to take or even impose their wish and capitalism sometimes he dominates personality he may not be a team player when he comes to the issues of his the personal entry so if there are different factions of epheneferi and does it in Nogu today something strange to us it could be a constellation of the polarization of the epheneferi more importantly you and I would know that personality who used to be the leader of the epheneferi at the time said look the epheneferi that he seen people were not displayed to him people were leaders who wanted like and then he resigned and that is when he stepped in as an intelligent leader and he has been piloting the affairs of epheneferi and we hope to see today maybe it's because the man has now endorsed a peter upi and he supported peter upi that is why they have gone to resurrect professor of epheneferi and some of these other squinter groups who are now saying they will do the package what you call a blessing of them the truth of the matter is that the epheneferi that I know they are men of integrity whatever decision they are taking except they are a little superior argument they are never likely to change their position what you are seeing with the epheneferi endorsing or endorsing people are not the conflict you are seeing today it's man made somebody is engineering it with the use of polarization of organization somebody somewhere who crossed the line but to the color one is alright today but would it be okay to say that I mean if it's anything to go by what you have said that there seem to be an upper hand there is a force that is actually influencing the decision that we have seen the backtrack even though it feels like not everyone in the epheneferi is in support of endorsing you know bollum and tinnibus candidates for presidency in 2023 but let's even say that's anything to go by let's even you know take that away but do you think that the epheneferi if the epheneferi is saying hey when endorsing a certain candidate does that reflect the interest of the people in the region would it mean that everyone who is of the Yoruba extraction would definitely you know be following the words of the epheneferi no no it's not possible I am a Yoruba man and I am not an epheneferi and whatever candidate that they endorse I am not likely to oppose for that person if I will say that the epheneferi to me today is under strong of PEPA the PEPA kaigan that some of them cannot be dictated by others they become within the others they become as they please they become as they provide a recommendation for because not dictated by them most people are going to vote for the relics of the past that's it most Yorubabis will not follow the epheneferi if the Yorubabis will not follow the epheneferi in the recent past are not some of the clans who are now leaders Yorubabis will not be there they just make these pronouncements are not the persuasive photography that we used to have over the people went away all night long ago for symbolic purposes and maybe for the old for the old old people whatever the epheneferi they might be told the lies but the majority and the bulk of the Yorubabis will that they will never enforce or endorse or follow to whatever political parties that they go if the epheneferi themselves there's a nation in this country today the epheneferi hopefully he couldn't win even in his own world so epheneferi for me it's a pakaiga and nobody should worry about all right let's quickly talk about the insecurity the president will be having an emergency meeting you know today with security chiefs and stakeholders to you know respond to all of the security threats recently it's the issue of the kidnapping on Legosi Badun highway if you like to say and the different persons of race consent really where we headed what exactly is going on why are we still talking about all of this especially when we know that the Buhari's government was strong very strong on you know solving the security challenges of the country let's say look you don't need to be as you say to know why we are facing the security challenges first of all most are postulated this argument before they seem to postulate it Nigeria is supposed to be a safe place and not a geographic state immediately a section of the country said they were going to adopt the Euclid that is the speciality of the government in in Manigini the affairs of the Nigeria state and all that we've created 50% of problems for ourselves in that area well immediately you made that announcement all this land is fundamental in the Maghre in the Sahe Libya all of them migrated to Nigeria and began to see Nigeria as a part of the ground where they could push the agenda to have a geographic state in West Africa from where they would find out to the other West African states and others and turn the whole of the West Africa into a geographic state so this land is fundamental is the geography that the other part of the country said the one post of the rest of the country is one of the reason why we are having the security challenges in Nigeria the second one is this when you look all over the world today there is a preservation of arms everywhere arms which should be very very difficult to acquire it's not flying all over the place you go over the sea, you go into the traffic because there are not there are ships who are going to have arms out there who are disposing of signals and ammunitions to all manner of people with the security people who have to have no control over say for example the Niger Delta area look at all the militant groups in the Niger Delta area all of them are carrying arms and ammunitions all the band is in the north carrying arms and ammunitions it has also been a net and so my POP members are also carrying arms and ammunitions ah they get it is arm and ammunitions the arms and ammunitions are often to be in people's arms everywhere once you have your money you could easily get it the second one is that you have unemployment that is a specific reason that is a specific reason unemployment is a recipe for disaster so when people are not employed when they don't have the means of money they will talk to crime and criminality to be able to feed themselves no matter what the consequences might be some will say well is it not better that I perish in the process of looking for means of my livelihood than to sit back in the comforts of my home by hunger look at some of our children who are traveling across to the Atlantic Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea shall be at the end of their perishing and as they are dying in the Mediterranean and the Atlantic Ocean is another more and more people are still taking the lead to go to those places and when you ask those children why are you people taking this risk are you sure you are going to be accommodated in the country that you are migrated to and the chair will easily tell you look it is better for me to be a cleaner in the place like America in the U.S. than to be an engineer or a banker in Nigeria some of them will say they prefer that the fishes in the Atlantic Ocean shall be there when they are both or whatever they are doing this in their thousand weeks in the Atlantic Ocean it is better for the fishes to eat them than for them to waste in Nigeria and die of hunger so lack of food security is a recipe for the crisis or for the insecurity that we have in the country furthermore our politicians are fighting insecurity which field of politicians can you point out in Nigeria today that does not have a private army that backs them that makes sure that they deploy in the process of winning the election and they have more of these so-called private security people and these are so-called private armies and more of them and even the president they do not know that most of the front-line politicians have their private army which push their electoral process without anybody being able to do a party look at what is happening in part of the country Peter O'Bian who went to Nicaragua state he wanted to contest the stadium was short against him the PDP he went to visit the casino to contest they were attacked with all manners of weapons they were coming for the specific camera but Tunde Kaluwale if this is what it is so we seem to have like you have rightly mentioned that the arms and the hands of non-state actors and how come non-state actors are becoming more powerful than the entire nation you have a security architecture you have different forces so how come where these non-state actors have empowered the security architecture of the country is it that we don't have what it takes to tackle them in terms of the resources what exactly is the issue we have because of the nature of my job I interact with the police I interact with the army I also have the opportunity to interact with the DSS and GOGO there are so many intelligent people in most of these places what is happening is the political way and that lack of political way began even before president who had become the president you will remember when Dr. Gula Chinetia tried to use a very strong arm against the bandits and then the Islamic fundamentalists President Gula Chinetia tried to use a very strong arm against the bandits and then the country is attacked against the law it is an attempt to estimate the population of the North and North if you are a service person if you are a soldier if you are a policeman if you are a DSS person and the person who said that kind of a person eventually become the president will you be as if you are speaking for sure those bandits and the Islamic fundamentalists that they are purchasing of a killing because we want to reduce the population the answer is no because the lack of political will is clear secondly, like I said the politicians all of them have the private army because even the governor even the president will benefit from the deployment of these private armies of the politicians in terms of winning the elections and all that they will usually turn the blind eye to the activities of these people that is why it has not become as if the new state has turned a more powerful than the state look at the award of contract for the pipeline surveillance of North it has been awarded to individuals I will say that the individuals in the Niger data are more powerful than the Navy they are more powerful than the police they are more powerful than the security forces and you are awarded that contract for something billion dollars on a monthly basis you are putting forth something billion dollars if a man has four presumptives billion dollars a month they are the two states in the future that kind of a party cannot compromise they are the two states in the future and then the security is not allowed to carry arms and ammunition in the process of securing the so called pipeline and again do you blame the security people when they have deployed the Niger data to carry the pipeline and all of it the solution they become the part of the problem because of the present time corruption that we are in the country so if the Niger problem is the Niger idea it can't be 25 you will need somebody with a strong will and this information political will who doesn't care on whose toes he steps on to make sure that we do have security because I challenge you and I say it openly that the security challenges can be solved within this month either the political or the social alright thank you so much Tunde Kuala Wale for being part of the show this morning we appreciate your time and your thoughts we look forward to having thanks for our machine you too Tunde and that's Tunde Kuala Wale he is a legal practitioner we had him sharing his thoughts on the big stars this morning on off the press we will take a break and when we return we will be looking at the issue of kidnapping the fact that it's on the increase in Niger please stay with us